Panasonic Bread Makers Problems and Breakdowns

[what]

I (more precisely, my mother) have another problem: the bucket is leaking, he says dough creeps out of the holes from below. Does this mean 1.5-2 thousand to cook to replace the bottom of the bucket?

I have a bad idea of ​​the "leaking" THROUGH OIL SEAL DOUGH! I am already out of curiosity ready to climb the wall or rush to look at this miracle! All the same, see for yourself what there is leaks. And does it leak ...

Button2, Wasp gave good advice. Try the Pizza mode. On other programs, heating of the heating element before baking occurs only if the room is cold. Are you absolutely sure about yeast? Give them a check without bread in HP.

Button2, Wasp gave good advice. Try the Pizza mode. On other programs, heating of the heating element before baking occurs only if the room is cold. Are you absolutely sure about yeast? Give them a check without bread in HP.

NADO PIZZA !!! Oh, sorry, I already started yelling. Well it will heat up on a pizza, so what ?! Do you go to pizzas all the time? The heating element is in order, but the program on "Rise" is buggy. Only SC!
But all the same, I would check both yeast and those. Here you are right.

The heating element is in order, but the program on "Rise" is buggy. Only SC!
But all the same, I would check both yeast and those. Here you are right.

But why is it clear that the program is buggy on the rise? How many times have experiments been carried out with heating the heating element on the rise. The heating should NOT ALWAYS be switched on on the rise. Only on Pizza ALWAYS !!!

In principle, you can try without a bucket ... and check the tena with your hand ...

[4. Baking - yes. This lifeless lump begins to bake ...]

Yes, the heating elements are fried. Only they do not heat it up, because the command is not sent to turn on. After all, Button writes: "...4. Baking - yes. This lifeless lump begins to bake ..."And if the dough does not rise, then the heating element should turn on! Must, must, must !!!!
But you can really check with your hand. On the "lift" mode, move your hand. Just DO NOT touch the heating element - suddenly hot!

[Wit]

So, there is a photo but it is not informative. I went for my bucket, sat with him in an embrace, took photos and videos (no sound). I'm just afraid that after this message everyone will run to pick their buckets!
Taki pinched the camera down, there is something in the four holes along the perimeter of the shaft! Burnt-burnt:

In the second photo, this is a piece that we managed to pick out with a needle from the hole.
Wit, the video can be viewed at the link 🔗 tama you can see how water can flow inside. Only sorry for the cleanliness - it was cooked with rye, I was in a hurry to wash the bucket and shoot the video, not everything was washed

I have small black lumps "from the inside" of the mixer - apparently the dough is squeezed out and burns. This does not affect performance. Just round black balls that look like burnt-out match heads.

Pancake. why are you in such a hurry to run to the service as soon as doubts arose about the work of hp. At me now, too, on the rise of the test, the heating elements do not turn on. The room is as hot as in summer. As soon as you are sure that the stove is odd, then, of course, go to the service.

Pancake. why are you in such a hurry to run to the service as soon as doubts arose about the work of hp. At me now, too, on the rise of the test, the heating elements do not turn on. The room is as hot as in summer. As soon as you are sure that the stove is odd, then, of course, go to the service.

I'm not in a hurry, that's why I'm asking.
In the room of norms. temperature, not summer. The day before yesterday everything was hot, yesterday it was gone.
To be sure that it is odd is to put it to work. It was stated above that it is not desirable, I will aggravate the problem.
Okay, I'll see. Thank you.

Pancake. why are you in such a hurry to run to the service as soon as doubts arose about the work of hp.At me now, too, on the rise of the test, the heating elements do not turn on. The room is as hot as in summer. As soon as you are sure that the stove is odd, then, of course, go to the service.

Yes, there is no doubt, there is a diagnosis, I have already had cases when people changed the motherboard because of a memory bar that had flown out because the controller was covered.

[Button2]

A bread maker is a simpler thing than a completer ...
And it has no memory controller. More precisely, it is, but very small.
Let's say they brought just such a supposedly faulty stove to the service. Their actions: 1) Turned on the "pelmeni" - the shaft rotates. 2) We turned on the "Baking" - the heating element is heating. Also, if they really want to, they can put their products there and bake bread. And what will the hostess look like if these men suddenly succeed?
Button2, try different yeasts and different flours on "Main". I am more than sure that it is in them. Do not be afraid! Acting within the framework of the instructions, it is impossible to break the bread maker!

I agree with Jeffrey.

[Jefry]

Jefry There is also a service mode with error codes, although it does not show everything, so it is first of all launched

Wasp, Maria, I have an old-style bucket. But they look very similar. I found them two years ago, I do not pay attention and do not touch. I don’t soak it for a long time, but for the standard order of food laying these micropores “do not play the piano”.

Button, I also wanted to go to the service with an implicit problem, but changed my mind when it turned out that the service technicians were "friendly" only with obvious problems and instead of replacing an inexpensive capacitor, they could offer me a complete replacement of the engine. The difference in costs is 30 times (the capacitor cost 28 UAH, and the replacement of the engine 700 by the engine itself + 200 for work). Do I need it? I would take a chance and try kneading and proofing on "pizza". By the way, have you changed the flour? I also had a problem (the bread turned out to be low and completely pale), the oven thought, but it turned out that the flour was from a trusted manufacturer.

[Button]

Do not forget: Button has a warranty device and you don't need to frighten it with capacitors. But I would definitely try to change flour and yeast.
And already ... for the eleventh time you are told that under unchanged conditions, the dough DOES NOT RISE YAAAAAA !!!!!!!!!
I think so.
- The heating element is switched on in the "Baking" mode at the command of the timer. And it turns on. And according to this, the timer and the heating element are okay.
- heating element must turn on in the "rise" mode at the command of the temperature sensor, if the dough is cold inside. Under the same conditions, when the dough rose normally, it stopped turning on (the dough is cold - there is no rise). The heating element is ok, but does not receive a command to turn on from the temperature sensor (I say so conditionally).
Button! Could you touch this little doll protruding into the body of the bread machine? When, say, wiped it with a cloth after baking inside the HP. Do you know what he looks like?
And further. In the SC, you don't need to run headlong at once. Call there first, describe the problem and ask head-on if a flying thermal sensor can be the cause of such a jamb. Good luck to you!

and no one scares. I just explain that you can run into anything in the service.

I reread it. The button changed the yeast, twice. Button, did you test the yeast for germination? Second: did you try to deceive the thermal sensor by freezing?

Why do I sin on food - yeast and flour - in the first place. If the yeast and flour are normal, then even in the absence of heating, the dough should, albeit weakly, fit! The bread can come out low, dense, but it should be bread that can be eaten, not discarded. At the beginning of baking, the bread will also rise (when heated, the yeast is activated, while the bread is warming up, they will have time to work), it will be cracked at the top, but it will rise during the baking process!

Why do I sin on food - yeast and flour - in the first place. If the yeast and flour are normal, then even in the absence of heating, the dough should, albeit weakly, fit!

That's great! I, too, have been thinking about this for nearly an hour.

And what would I say? Here's a manual for another bread machine. Read and enjoy !!! Denis- People's Commissar
Panasonic SD-207 SERVICE MANUAL
If it does not open according to the law of swinishness, then I quote selectively

Symptom: Bread won't rise. Not lush enough.
Owner's mistake 1. Wrong flour measurement
2.wrong water measurement
3.stale yeast
4. Insufficient mixing due to high temperature in the room 30 ChS and above
5.wrong choice of flour type
6.use of stale flour
...
9.the salt or salt of insufficient quality has been shifted or not added
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Malfunction
bread makers
1. Malfunction of the temperature sensor (normal value 27 kOhm: 25ChS)
2. PCB defects
3. The kneading knife does not turn.

Button, exclude possible jambs on your side and then you yourself know what to do. Good luck to you! Everything will work out for you!

To all: Service manual for SD-255 #

To all: Service manual for SD-255 #

Sasha, I can't open it. I read txt - no requests come from anywhere. I have already fumbled with this link for half an hour

I almost always have flour from the same manufacturer. The bread is almost always different. Depends on the quality of flour, how much, where and how it stood (in what humidity and temperature). Yeast, of course ... How and how much was stored. What is the T in the room. How much and what kind of oil (butter and sunflower). How much and what kind of raisins I put. etc. I think at first it is necessary to exclude possible causes of failures due to the quality and quantity of ingredients and the order in which they are bookmarked, and then think about the HP malfunction.
By the way, I changed the order of yeast filling and this affected the appearance of the roll. In any case, it seemed to me so.

I think at first it is necessary to exclude possible causes of failures due to the quality and quantity of ingredients and the order in which they are booked, and then think about the HP malfunction.

Absolutely agree. I have recommended to do it above to Button ("... Button, exclude possible jambs on your side ...).

Sasha, I can't open it. I read txt - no requests come from anywhere. I have already fumbled with this link for half an hour

Download the file, unzip the zip archives, then right-click on the index.html file to select open with an Internet explorer, the explorer will ask you to run ActiveX scripts? you need to answer yes !! Just opened XP SP3 Explorer 8.0.6001.18702

Hello. I bought a 2501 bread maker a week ago. Now there is a bucket knock. Determined - the bucket has ceased to be rigidly fixed in the grooves, that is, there is a backlash and, accordingly, when the kneading is turned on, this backlash gives a knock. If you insert a bucket and do not turn on the kneading, then in principle it is held rigidly, but as soon as it moves by half a millimeter and that's it, the bucket already starts to play and fidget in the grooves. I looked at the nest and the pins of the bucket attachment - there is a little wear. Now I don’t understand how something could have been erased in a week of use and what are the ways out of the situation?

Now, when kneading, it is clearly visible that the bucket moves in the grooves to the left-right, that is, it is not rigidly fixed!

[vitalya_pn]

vitalya_pn There are three options, for service, just ignore it, make a gasket from a thin aluminum sheet. (Option with a gasket, search in the search in a closed topic)

I suggest one option: to the service! After a week of operation, hidden defects can already manifest themselves. You have the right to exchange, collect money, repair for free. It is better to leave the thought of laying until the end of the warranty. Good luck to you!

[to the service!]

I suggest one option: to the service! After a week of operation, hidden defects can already manifest themselves. You have the right exchange, pick up money, repair for free. It is better to leave the thought of laying until the end of the warranty. Good luck to you!

Definitely!

Hello colleagues!:)

I used to be just a reader, now I had to become a writer. All the same problem with a drop in power during mixing. I studied the topic, was delighted with such a simple solution (replacing the capacitor), disassembled the stove and got to the alleged culprit, but ...When measuring, the native capacitor showed a capacity of 2.95 microfarads, which, with a 5% error allowed by the manufacturer, is simply an excellent result, and a new one bought in advance shows 2.87 microfarads.
Stove model 2501, worked for two years with not stressful use at all. I did not find a service manual, I used the manual from the 207th. Measured the resistance of the motor windings. According to the manual, between the white and red wires about 172 ohms, between the white and blue about 165 ohms. I have 164 and 157 respectively. I think it's okay here. In general, I am at a loss, I do not know what to do next and where to dig. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thank you.
PS: I'd like to hope that it was a temporary voltage drop.

[vitalya_pn]

vitalya_pn There are three options, for service, just ignore it, make a gasket from a thin aluminum sheet. (Option with a gasket, search in the search in a closed topic)

I want to show you the video right away, so that you understand what's the matter. The video shows a bucket without dough. When with a bun, it knocks even louder and the bucket fidgets more.

[Tigrik]

Tigrik It is better not to measure capacitors in such circuits, but simply to make a replacement, periodic breakage or breakdown under voltage is possible. It's just that the RLC meter may not show this.

I want to show you the video right away, so that you understand what's the matter. The video shows a bucket without dough. When with a bun, it knocks even louder and the bucket fidgets more.

Sometimes it knocks and sometimes it doesn't. It all depends on the kolobok. If he flies along the sides of the bucket, that is, tapping (he has already stopped paying attention), and if the dough does not fold into a bun, then there is no knocking. I have never tried to start an empty bucket, but I think an empty bucket should not knock in a new bread maker.

Sometimes it knocks and sometimes it doesn't. It all depends on the kolobok. If he flies along the sides of the bucket, that is, tapping (he has already stopped paying attention), and if the dough does not fold into a bun, then there is no knocking. I have never tried to start an empty bucket, but I think an empty bucket should not knock in a new bread maker.

I'm more interested in the bucket moving. It is from this and the knock. I watched several videos on the Internet - the bucket sits tightly. In the video, I showed that the shaft itself, on which the bucket sits, also does not have a strictly flat trajectory of movement (it looks like an egg-shaped one).

[vitalya_pn]

vitalya_pn We'll have to take the HP to the service, the gasket won't help.

[Tigrik]

Tigrik It is better not to measure capacitors in such circuits, but simply to make a replacement, periodic breakage or breakdown under voltage is possible. It's just that the RLC meter may not show this.

Thank you. So I'll change, I'll sign off on the results.

My Panasonic SD-2500WTS began to interfere badly, does not pull.
I read here that a capacitor may be the cause, but there it was a Panasonic SD-255.
Are the models close by filling? Can you apply the recommendations for disassembling and replacing the capacitor for the 2500th?
And can you tell me, the manual for the 2500th where you can download it.
Thank you.

My Panasonic SD-2500WTS began to interfere badly, does not pull.
I read here that a capacitor may be the cause, but there it was a Panasonic SD-255.
Are the models close by filling? Can you apply the recommendations for disassembling and replacing the capacitor for the 2500th?

Can. The capacitors are the same there.

Got it. Is the disassembly the same? The buildings look different ...

[dreampasha]

dreampasha Nearly. We have 6 screws on top under the cover. And the capacitor is beautiful blue.)) Otherwise, everything is the same.

Recently I bought HP 2501, during the mixing on the program "Pelmeni" the mixer makes creaks. This is normal? If you remove the bucket, there are no squeaks

I, too, began to play the bucket on the batch and at the same time rumble. If you hold the bucket with your hand, then silence.

My Panasonic SD-2500WTS began to interfere badly, does not pull.
I read here that a capacitor may be the cause, but there it was a Panasonic SD-255.
Are the models close by filling? Can you apply the recommendations for disassembling and replacing the capacitor for the 2500th?
And can you tell me, the manual for the 2500th where you can download it.
Thank you.

I have an sd255 Bread Maker, the power began to drop when kneading "heavy" breads, and a characteristic smell of insulation appeared, read the entire branch, and changed the capacitor on the weekend to a new one ...

Hurray, the stove began to work + began to behave quieter when mixing.

Disassembly:
1. It is necessary, as prompted, to unscrew the 4 screws in the legs,
2.remove the cover, there will be 4 latches on the front panel (you can see the slots into which you need to press with a thin screwdriver),
3.Unscrew one screw that holds the cover with the motor control board (white),
4.remove the cover by bending 2 latches
5.Gently pushing back the latches, pull the control board out of the mount,
6.Tighten the cable a little, just enough so that you can turn the board slightly and reach the capacitor terminals with a soldering iron
7.solder the capacitor (by the way, it turned out that this can only be done with a soldering iron with a power of 40, or better 60 watts. - the smaller one will not warm up the contact pads)
8.Drilled 2 holes on the side in the top cover from the condenser side (to fix the capacitor - I didn't want to glue it)
9. Soldered the capacitor (I took the CBB-60 brand at 3mkFx450V (round), if you find it, it is better to take the CBB-61 at 3mkFx450V it is flat and will replace the old one)
10.Soldered / screwed on the capacitor
11. Assembled in reverse order.

Shl. And, someone wrote about a "jumping" bread machine when kneading after replacing a capacitor ... this will happen if the legs are screwed unevenly during assembly, check the stability of the bread machine on a flat surface and adjust the legs ...

Shl. And, measurements of the evaporated capacitor and the new one ... the tester did not give anything, plus or minus the characteristics coincided.

I'm a beginner, I baked four different breads and everything would be nice, but it seems the center of the loaf is a little bit sticky, it doesn't cut even when it's cold. Prescription bookmark, can liquid
reduce slightly? But the main thing that I cannot explain is the scratches on the mixer, because this surface of the part does not have contact with metal surfaces. Can anyone explain the problem, I present a photo. Thank you.

[Lyudmila N]

Lyudmila N, Come here MANUAL FOR BAKING BREAD IN A BREADMARK (BEGINNER'S MANUAL) then here Help, nothing happens with bread !!! (Ambulance)
We use scales for flour, a glass from the kit for water! And you will be happy.
The spatula is scratched on the crust of bread, on sugar, seeds, nuts, this is quite normal.

Hello everybody. I read about the backlash and understand that it is also slightly backlash. And also, once I read that if it creaks, you need to rearrange the bucket. It turns out that my stove squeaks in one position of the bucket, but not in the other. To the service?

Hello everybody. I read about the backlash and I understand that it is also slightly backlash. And also, once I read that if it creaks, you need to rearrange the bucket. It turns out that my stove squeaks in one position of the bucket, but not in the other. To the service?

No, get used to it and forget.

Why get used to it and forget. I personally gave mine to the service. My problem is visible in the video on the previous page. I see that after me a video appeared with the same problem. After watching the video, the master in the service acknowledged the problem, but could not solve it yet, because he does not know what the problem is, in the stove or in the bucket. Waiting until at least one more similar stove appears - so that you can understand what the problem is and order the necessary part for replacement.

Initially, I also thought - to get used to and forget. But every day she began to knock louder and louder - my nerves could not stand it.

Initially, I suggested that the problem is in the bucket, since the antennae, behind which the stove shaft turns the bucket, began to play. The master assured me that there must be a backlash and this is not discussed. But I remember exactly - that initially it was not there. So the solution to the problem is not known yet.

No, you can't get used to and forget. I called the service, they told me that I had to take it. At first I tried not to pay attention, but this means that not only the dispenser will wake me up at night, but also the creak, which means I did not just open my eyes, turn over on the other side and sleep on, but opened my eyes, got up and moved the bucket, drank water, looked at the bun, went to the toilet and only then to sleep. Sorry for the details. But today I had to wake up to the sound of a dispenser and never fall asleep. I don't want to get used to this, and then she will shake the bucket even more and will creak.

Hello everyone ! So I'm a meticulous person with technology and I want everything to work as it should in my Panasonic 2502, I had to disassemble it a little.
Namely, the top cover with dispenser mechanisms, in order to find out why the yeast dispenser does not close immediately. It is not difficult to understand - it is going too. It is necessary to unscrew 5 bolts and use a knife to release the latches in a circle in the aluminum lining. The cover itself is disassembled - what do we see? The problem lies in the play of the rubber selenoid lever. Pay attention to the rubber tip should freely enter the hole for fixing the cover, a slight skew and the rubber heel rests against the edge of the hole without entering it. Everything is solved simply: it is necessary to remove this lever, bend the tip of the lever with the elastic band so that the rubber penny enters the hole without hindrance even with a slight backlash. All! the problem is resolved, now the dispenser, when triggered, opens and CLOSES in my opinion 4 times. If the raisin dispenser sticks - it is solved in the same way - visually inspect what the lever with a rubber tip is rubbing against - bend it accordingly. Do not be afraid to disassemble the lid - there is nothing complicated - the main thing is accuracy. It's a shame that such a renowned manufacturer allows such technical flaws. Now my favorite stove is flawless - it's still Panasonic !!! ..... Good luck to all!

I have an sd255 Bread Maker, the power began to drop when kneading "heavy" breads, and a characteristic smell of insulation appeared, read the entire branch, and changed the capacitor on the weekend to a new one ...

Yes, an electrolytic capacitor can dry out, but not in 5-10 years. They can be operational for 20 years or more. This means such low-quality capacitors. It's not a fact that these capacitors are manufactured by Panasonic. Well, if this is an ordinary capacitor (and this is probably an ordinary one, because it is not a "barrel", but a rectangular one), then failing in such a short time is no good.