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Dixsi
Marina, Thank you! I also want to try, I was not sure of the result. I'll send the next loaf to HP.
Elena_Kamch
Girls, but my personal opinion: bread from HP is not at all comparable to bread from the oven. After I tried to bake in the oven, I presented a bread maker.
marina-mm
Elena, I can agree that bread from HP and from the oven is different, but not dramatically for us.
And I don't put the bread maker for sourdough bread on the machine, but if you track the process, what's the difference?
It is not always possible to stand above the oven, I turned on the HP for baking and I know that it will turn off itself and I will not forget anything. However, I do not insist on anything.
Elena_Kamch
Quote: marina-mm
if you track the process, what's the difference?
The difference is in the baked goods themselves
I don't insist either .. It's just that for me personally the difference in bread is striking
Of course, everyone chooses
Dixsi
I have an Orson bread maker, unfortunately, all programs are automatic, but we really like the bread that it produces. I will not give it to anyone
Scorched from both the attached book and the website, without counting anything.

In my opinion, there is more rail for the oven than for the HP, so I will not dare to try them there, now I only make bread on them, but they have a longer proofing. Therefore, the existing experience from Marina, marina-mm, for me is really very important. I don't want to spoil such a wonderful bread with some kind of oversight.
Dixsi
I bake and bake everything)). I only have time to turn around - yeast-pre-enzyme-yeast. Today I added flaxseeds and sunflower seeds to bread. The yeast got stronger and fit literally on the second or third day. And I also like that the dough with this yeast does not acidify. Great!
Elena_Kamch
Quote: Dixsi
I like that the dough with this yeast does not over-acid
Yes, I really like it too
There was never sourness, no matter how much




Lika, if I bake often, then I just take most of the PF that came up for bread, and with the rest I do it like with sourdough: I add flour + water to the refrigerator. Then I take it out, once again the flour + water, it rose and into the dough It turns out faster than doing it every time from the railway
Dixsi
Quote: Elena_Kamch
with the rest I do it as with sourdough: I add flour + water and into the refrigerator. Then I take it out, once again flour + water, it also rose into the dough

Elena, Thank you! I didn't guess, I'll take note
Dixsi
Fabulous yeast went to the people! Thank you very much from everyone who tasted bread with such yeast!
Elena_Kamch
Lika, that's lovely! I love them very much too
Venera007
I agree, the yeast is wonderful! I also bake and bake everything on them, even now, when the oven has died, I knead the dough in hp, and when it comes up, I turn on baking :)
I agree that bread in hp and in the oven is different, bread from the oven is definitely better. But bread from HP is much better than bread from the store. When my little boy was born, there was a mess in my head, there was no time to make bread even in a bread machine, so I had to buy, but now only homemade !!!
Gail
I baked bread yesterday at the railway station. yeast and that's what happened Liquid yeast based on fruits, vegetables, herbs, tea ...
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Quote: Gail
and this is what happened
Gailhow rosy!
Gail
Baking in the form of yeast from sl. pepper
Dixsi
Gailwhat a handsome man!
Elena_Kamch
Quote: Gail
that's what happened
Handsome Wheat?
Is there a cutter?
Gail
There is.Liquid yeast based on fruits, vegetables, herbs, tea ...

Trishka
Good afternoon everyone!
So I decided to try conjuring ...
Take number times:
Delivered on 01.04. a jar of sushi. apple, raisins and dried apricots ... the result, today I have grown mold ...
Take number two:
Today I have already put a fresh apple, cranberries (frozen), I'm waiting ... ...

Why mold? Their apples, really ancient ...
Dixsi
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, do not be upset! At the initial stage, I also had mold, I thought that I would throw it out, but I removed it, and the yeast fungus won. I waited for the seething for almost three weeks, and besides, it was quite cool in the kitchen. Now walks in full, already and distribute)). I also used dry apples and strawberries for sourdough.
Trishka
Dixsi, Lika, thanks, but I have already thrown out, put new ones.
Mold is not good, I read somewhere that if mold appears on any product, it is only for a waste.
I'll see what fresh apples will make ...
Elena_Kamch
Trishka, Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, is it warm? I kept mine in the oven long enough so that no drafts
Trishka
Lenus, found a warm place on the microwave oven, shows a thermometer +26, not enough?
It's hot on a radiator with a towel +36 ...
And you kept it in the oven, right?
I need to measure the temperature there too
Elena_Kamch
+26 is not enough, in my opinion ..
I kept it in the oven so it wouldn't come through. Grow in summer, and it's cold at home at this time.
I'll get to work now, look for my messages. I once collected a selection of useful tips from my general experience. I will find, I will insert a link
Ksyusha, maybe add a few highlights?




Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, I'm mired in the topic here ... There is no memory
My research begins with page 134, if you want, you can also get bogged down
I turned on the light bulb in the oven and it was warm there, that even the jar was warm, and how much temperature ... I don't even know
I would add to your apples raisins (I am all raw materials) or a few grapes. It is very energizing




https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...com_smf&topic=417918.3100
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, and here in the answer # 3107 a lot of information has been combined. Look.
Trishka
Helen, psib, I'll see!
Gee, I built a treatise in my bookmarks from the bookmarks of this topic, everything and.
And add raisins.
Although I put it down for the first time, but I sin on apples, I have them already three years ago, drying is lying, we don't drink compotes ...
Trishka
Elena_Kamch, Leeyennn, it's me again ...
My yeast has been standing for a week now, no mold, tfu tfu tfu, smells like fermented compote, does not sizzle, it’s not champagne, why should I do that .... let it stand further?

Liquid yeast based on fruits, vegetables, herbs, tea ...

Temperature + 26 + 28 ... wrapped them with a towel ...
And yes, I put two more jars (this, out of greed), already with honey, one with frozen plums and grapes, the other with banana and dried apricots
Maybe something will come out




And yes, it may come in handy for beginners, here at the link I have collected useful tips and some recipes on the topic.
My favorite recipes (Trishka) # 11
Elena_Kamch
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, well, the view is good. Like, are there small bubbles?
Maybe a little honey, add a little and let them stand on. I also stood for a long time.
Trishka
Yes, there are no bubbles, very little foam, the smell is like normal, not vinegar ...
I'll try to add honey.
And for the first time, how many were you, in my opinion you were on raspberries?
Thanks for the help !
Tashenka
Trishka, Ksyusha, I have been "educating" this yeast for a long time. Never had a problem. But now ... I've put it on for the third time. The first two visits ended with the appearance of mold and went to the trash heap. Now everything seems to be according to plan, but they stood for more than a week before the foam appeared. Yes, and foamed when I put the batteries on the lower pipe. I start growing all my yeast on banana skins. and then I add everything that the eye falls on (citrus skins, apple "waste", dried fruits, tea, hibiscus, ...) Therefore, patience, patience, patience ... The weather, apparently, is not particularly favorable. And they are alive ...
Dixsi
Quote: Trishka
Mold is not good
Yes, I agree. But it somehow happened to me that right before the seething began, a penny-sized fluffy appeared and immediately picked it up with a spoon. And then the yeast finally defeated penicillin)). Now my yeast is very safe, because I nursed them for a long time)).
Trishka
Tashenka, Natasha, thank you: flowers: for your help!
It's kind of warm at home, on average +25, I was running around with a thermometer around the apartment, looking for a warmer place ... I found it on the windowsill in a large room, (+28), also wrapped it in a towel, stand ...
True, today I opened the jar, there is not much foam, there are no bubbles, and if you put your ear into the jar, then there is some hissing, on Lena's advice, I added half a teaspoon of honey, mixed and they calmed down ... maybe my honey is not correct, or they strenuously it, and therefore calmed down.
In general, I'm waiting, there's nowhere to rush




Quote: Dixsi
the size of a penny
Well, she was (in the sense of mold), and here I was watching the program on TV, S. Bezrukov voiced it, they told horror stories about mold, and so they said clearly that if mold appeared, albeit a little bit, all the skills, because it is not only on the surface, but also in the entire product, such as it multiplies in the form of spores, and if we see only a small piece of the mold itself, then this does not mean that it is only in this place, it is already struck the whole product, I hope it's clear ...
After that, at the slightest suspicion "everything is in the basin"
shoko11
Trishka, also recently decided to put such yeast again. On raisins did not work, mold also went, after a day, threw it out. And I was impatient to remove the leaven for baking on such yeast, the second time I put it on an apple and a ripe pear. The jar was just in the kitchen, after 2.5 days bubbles were visible, not too high a layer, but hissed perfectly. Therefore, I drained it, put in the leaven, the first stage was raised perfectly, we'll see further.
Trishka
Quote: shoko11
after 2.5 days
It's so fast, they stand with me from the 3rd and do not rush anywhere ...
And on what, sugar or honey?

Let the bread turn out delicious!
Dixsi
Quote: Trishka
but also in the whole product,
All right, fuck the kitten
shoko11
Quote: Trishka
And on what, sugar or honey?
Sugar. I'm not planning bread on it, I want an Estonian-style bun
Trishka
Dixsi, Lika, have you already baked with this yeast?
Well, maybe nothing, I’m not the first instance, I just saw the film, so I remembered it, maybe it’s not so scary, but personally, I always throw everything away, out of harm's way ...




Quote: shoko11
sugar
So I put the first jar on sugar, it has been worth more than a week, I put two more on honey, they stand for a couple of days, and I don't like the smell at all, some kind of rotten or something, tomorrow I'll see if it doesn't change, pour it out ... ...
Either honey, or raw materials ...
Dixsi
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, yes, since January I have been baking them. Everything is fine)). And the same opinion about mold. But since the yeast started to play, I didn't bother, because there were no more problems. Well, plus heat treatment)). And with bread, too, everything is fine, stored well.
Elena also encouraged me in the process, for which many thanks to her.
So, I wish you success in our yeast field Usa will be in order.
Trishka
Dixsi, Lika, thank you, I hope everything works out!
Yes, and to me on "you", ok?
Elena_Kamch
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, I hold my fists for you
Everything should work out. Mine too long toiled (put on raspberries). I wrote you the links on the last page there, the memory again refused how much they stood And at first they lifted bread for a very long time And now it's just as good as industrial
In general, we follow the whole team of your railways. It will turn out, sooner or later ..
Dixsi
Quote: Trishka
and to me on "you"
And to me)) ok!
Trishka
Elena_Kamch, Lenusik, thank you!
Trishka
Girls, I'm annoying this again ...
Today I have a jar with grapes and plums which, from 08.04, tried to explode first in the morning, and when the lid was opened, to escape ... Yesterday there was still silence, but today there is an escape .... What is she ready for, or not yet?
It smells just a little bit of mash, when it flops, it hisses and runs away through the lid ...
There she is ...
Liquid yeast based on fruits, vegetables, herbs, tea ...
Liquid yeast based on fruits, vegetables, herbs, tea ...
Elena_Kamch
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, feed her another razik: water + honey or sugar and let it bubble again. Yes, and you can try to knead the dough
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Quote: Trishka
escapes through the cover
Move to a larger jar.
Elena_Kamch
It looks very much already! the beauty




Quote: Glow
Move to a larger jar.
Three-liter I once have a relative Rostislav transferred by my sourdough in such a jar, as I saw ...
Tricia
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, and I used to bake on such igruchikh!
I only put dough just in case, so that the dough rises in several stages.
Trishka
So why should these runners feed them again?
Add water and sugar / honey how much? And how many more can you hold?




Quote: Glow
bigger jar
And I'm talking about this, thank you!




Well, now I got confused about what to do "to cut or not to cut?"
Elena_Kamch
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, calmness!
I would feed. I add everything by eye. Half a teaspoon of honey and 100 ml of water. As they start to play well, part up and add flour to the consistency of liquid sour cream. And we will look lalsh
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hotels part and add flour to the consistency of liquid sour cream. And we will look lalsh
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, it will be dough.
As soon as it rises well, you can knead the bread.
Trishka
Yeah, that's understandable .... but not early?
Now I tasted the one that costs from 03.04, with an apple, raisins and cranberries, rather sour and sweet, the smell is similar to a soaked apple, when you flop around and open hiss, well, you can say no, and foam too.
And this one on the photo tastes sweet, but the smell is slightly fermented ..
Why feed her anyway, even if it's sweet?




Quote: Glow
will be dough.
I already understood this, here is Temko up and down, but all over the place: vylezti: scary ...
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Quote: Trishka
Why feed her anyway, even if it's sweet?
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, maybe not?
Now Lena will tell you.
Quote: Trishka
but everything is scary
Trishka, 🌼Ksyusha🌻, You never know what you can do till you try.

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