Pizza makers Princess 115000, Travola SW302T, Fagor MG-300

And I fell in love with Tanyulina video.
I’m not a hostess at all and don’t like to cook, but here it’s flooded))) First I bought an inexpensive Sentek 3 in 1 (thick waffles, thin waffles, grill) and then it went off and on: bread machine, grill, etc.
Now it's cold and I want to chew something))) and yes, it's better not to get to your forum: soooblaaaznovvvv.

In my thoughts I take lavashik, grease it with sauce, sprinkle with cheese, ham, maybe add a little tomato, I roll it into the "Klatronic", and at the exit I get delicious striped

A-ha-ha, Irina, I was doing the same now, telling my dear what the delicious food will be, and what cutlets will be, well, just a song, and I'll show him when Masha puts the video
I'll go to her in the subject, sign up and watch over so as not to oversleep the ransom, and by this time I will process my husband

[lena_letochka]

lena_letochka, Lena, you yourself must make a decision.
I only have GF, I have nothing to compare with. The girls were taught what to do so that there was no burnt bottom. I am not at all annoyed by the white top, the main thing is that the product is baked. To the pale top, apparently, the cartoons have taught me.
When choosing, I was guided by my own needs. I need to bake pancakes and pizza at the dacha, sometimes focaccia or flatbread. Sometimes fry some meat. Although, out of my laziness in the country, I fry cutlets with one pancake in a cartoon.

By the way, when choosing, I did not have prolonged agony, I was somehow immediately pushed by GF and nothing more. To start

Sveta, what should be done so that the bottom does not burn? Except all kinds of forms.

My question is how can I check the heating rate on different numbers in the GF? I have a feeling that I have mixed up 180 is like 210, and 210 is 180.

I have a feeling that I have mixed up 180 is like 210, and 210 is 180.

How!
And this could be ?!
How do you like the coverage of GF-ki?
Do metal molds harm the coating?

How do you like the coverage of GF-ki?

GFushki's coverage is wonderful. True!
It is only necessary to look at the courier so that there are no flaws initially.
In my copy, as it seemed to me, there was also no such range of adequate temperature conditions as I wanted. My GFushka was akin to Gourmania in temperature.
I’ll get the clock from Ilmirchik.
Most of all I like the thermostat in the Clathron.

In my copy, as it seemed to me, there was also no such range of adequate temperature regimes as I wanted.

It was necessary to boil less.
I did not hold the filter coffee maker and PR at the same time, it was cut down; does not keep the coffee maker and the GF at the maximum, it is cut down; and keeps the coffee maker and the GF at a minimum. That's all physics

I also bought myself a Clathron. Now I will be twice as happy I will join you

Clathron

Congratulations, now for me Klatrosh outshined everyone, I am even surprised

[Ritus, come on!]

I’ll get the clock from Ilmirchik.

Ritus, come on!

Ay, on the Princess the scrap did not floatwho had such a defect?
Two indicators, red and green, immediately light up, but the stove does not heat up ... If there was any way to deal with it?
I know, it should be on a different topic, but everyone died out there, but you can answer there ...

Girls, thanks for the advice! I stop at the tristarike. I also found a baking mat and a grid for the Marmiton oven and grill on Ozone. What to order a tristar for a company? I didn’t use a rug or a net. And in general, how are they in terms of quality (Marmiton)? Maybe something else is needed?

[Paul]

Paul, the thermal sensor flew or the contacts in front of the thermal sensor closed. Disassemble, look at the wires.It can be cleaned, but it is necessary to solder.

STE I understand, but maybe hto already did, as it is there ...

[Paul]

Paul, yes there are only two wires. Figure it out

How!
And this could be ?!
How do you like the coverage of GF-ki?
Do metal molds harm the coating?

As I noticed. For example, I set something to cook at 195 degrees, then I want to add, turn towards 210 and the green light does not light up, but if I turn towards 180 it lights up ...
I like the coating, the forms do not harm, it just stands in it.

[@ irina @]

I also found a baking mat and a grid for the Marmiton oven and grill on Ozone. What to order a tristar for a company? I didn’t use a rug or a net. And in general, how are they in terms of quality (Marmiton)? Maybe something else is needed?

@ irina @, on Ozone there is also a grid-lattice "You`ll love", for grill and oven, 30 cm x 30 cm. For Tristar and other pizza chains it is better to take it, because you can cut a circle just to the size of the bottom. And now this grid goes for 145 rubles. (usually it is 1.5 - 2 times more expensive)

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The quality of the mesh from different manufacturers is absolutely the same. The only difference is in size.

I set something to cook at 195 degrees, then I want to add, I turn towards 210 and the green light does not light up, and if I turn towards 180, it lights up ...

The green lamp lights up when the device has reached operating temperature. If the green lamp does not light up, then the device is still in the process of temperature rise. If the green lamp turns off during operation, then the device has cooled down and started heating up again.

[Yuliya K]

Yuliya K, Thank you! looked. I will order it right away.

[@ irina @]

@ irina @, can I say?
I put this net on the bottom in a pizza maker, put it on the net or form, or baking paper, or a silicone mat. The bottom does not burn.
I also put this grid on a regular frying pan if I fry cutlets on it. The cutlets fried well and do not stick to the frying pan, which is breaking down for me. I use the same grid in the gas grill pan.
If I bake chicken in the oven, then put a wire rack on a baking sheet, a grid on a wire rack, and a chicken on a grid. Excess fat flows into the baking sheet, and the bird itself does not stick to the wire rack and does not float in the fat.

[Wildebeest]

Wildebeest, live a century, learn a century, did not even imagine that there is such a wonderful thing! And then how to wash it?

[@ irina @]

@ irina @, it is very easy to clean.
I agree with you, you have to study all your life.

[Wildebeest]

Wildebeest, Thank you!

but GF for some reason few people impress

I can say what I was not impressed with GF - the top cover does not lock when opened.
For me personally, this is a significant drawback.

the top cover does not lock when opened.

It's okay, worse is that it slides on the table if I push the lid against the wall.
The trouble with these non-slip legs is that only an accidentally obtained used Bosch combine and a dough mixer bought before it hold on. The latter so generally clings tightly with its suckers. And everything else slips.

And if you put it on a silicone mat, will the slip remain?

I can say with what I was not impressed by GF - the top cover does not lock when opened

An unfortunate drawback, but I have a small kitchen, you can lean your elbows ... rubberized legs? or will it run out? Does this feature annoy the GF hostesses?
Anna67 got ahead

it slides on the table if I push the lid against the wall

Yes, I also noticed this from Tanyulin's video and noted that it was very inconvenient.

Added on Wednesday 16 Nov 2016 01:01 AM

Does this feature annoy the GF hostesses?

I don’t know about the hostesses, but as the owner of the Princess and Tristar, I don’t even imagine if their covers were not fixed.
It's a constant headache where to lean it.
And since the stoves themselves are not small, consider that you need to free up twice as much space for it on the table.

No, for me personally, this is completely inconvenient.

[Wildebeest]

Wildebeest, did not occur to my head. I only remembered about the rug when I was looking for Teflon and it caught my eye.Big one for rolling the dough. It should probably help, but in terms of the number of movements, this is the same as finding a mat to spread, that finding a position so that the GF does not go from the table ... As far as I remember, the main thing here is that the opening angle is closer to 90, and I always put it so that the wall is far away.

Something suddenly occurred to me after I fiddled with a cupcake without a regulator and timer. And if their stoves are such through the outlet, turn on the timer instead of turning it on and off and change the temperature? Your recipes so much on hot, so much off completely will be reduced to automation. And the temperature will be much lower than stated ...

consider that you need to free up twice as much space for her on the table.

This, since the quirk appeared to keep the countertops empty, just doesn't bother me, and the stove has a lot of space - there is where to go. Well, at the same time, it is cold and usually slows down in the sink

and usually slows down in the sink

I don't know about the hostesses, but as the owner of the Princess and Tristar, I can't even imagine if their covers were not fixed.

Ira, used the PR for a very long time and did not even know about the fixing cover, since it rested against the back wall before fixation was required. I noticed only when I took it out into the street. But once before the bandage and to panthenol, I scalded my hand so that my husband forbade me to approach her for some time.
Therefore, of course, everyone has different priorities. If I had an island work surface, perhaps the non-locking lid somehow influenced my decision. And so, the knob, timer and regulator won.

[Irina]

Yes, I also noticed this from Tanyulin's video and noted that it was very inconvenient.

Irina, also imagined how inconvenient it is, right? And in the spring, however, I talked about this in the next topic, I wanted to convey that another "frying pan" with this option is luTCHe, and that fixing the lid in the open state is necessary.

Added Wednesday 16 Nov 2016 06:55 AM

In general, no matter how they convince me otherwise, I am glad that at the end everyone understood - the presence of a timer and a temperature regulator on the device is 70% of its convenience, this is for me personally. I leave 20% for the quality of the coating and 10% for the design.

Well, excuse me, no matter how convenient the device is in terms of regulators, the quality of the coverage is no less important.
In general, everything is important, even if it looks terrible, I won't even take it as a gift, I will have to see it all the time. GF is certainly not a handsome man, but it does not cause strong rejection either. Well, to be honest, I don't like any of the designs. Unless the Ferrari looks like a flying saucer, the round waffle iron gf is touching with its size (like colored raspberries from princesses), and the rest do not stand out in terms of beauty, bringing back memories of the technique of the last century with its indicators and pens. Is it true whether there is a digital display with a temperature and time display with touch control and I'm afraid to think how much it would cost and how to wash it? So, without pity, I shove under the tap if necessary.

Oh, girls, again there is confusion in the soul
so maybe then take the Princess and does not suffer, all the same, rugs are put in the GF-ku, the heating is less than 180, it does not decrease. How significant the difference in temperature is 180-210, I'm a layman in this. Do GF hostesses often use the regulator, or more often at a minimum?

In our neighboring town, the Princess costs 2850 (she is shocked, the difference is 2 hours away and 650 rubles). GFs are also much cheaper ...
I like tortilla, its functionality is just a dream, but it would be bigger, at least like Klatrosh, otherwise you need to bake two pizzas, fry cutlets in two passes ... and the power is at least 1500-1600
As add. the device is good, but as one - too small.

[Anna]

the quality of the coating is equally important.

Anna, yes, this is indisputable and not even subject to discussion, because without high-quality coverage ... we really won't be able to use it, we've forgotten how. Why is GF not handsome, what a red one

Lena, I'll tell you honestly, as if in spirit. If you take mainly for baking - pizzas, casseroles, pies, then take TR or PR. If the main dishes of your table are vegetables, meat, cutlets, vegetable meatballs (like ours), then definitely take GF.
I use the regulator often. More often a minimum, less often a maximum. Once Manna measured the temperature in PR and measured 190 degrees. This is so, for general development information

More often a minimum, less often a maximum.

Likewise. If there was a minimum even minimal it would be very good.

Why is GF not handsome, what a red one

By form. Rough IMHO. And red ... I'm indifferent to red of this shade. As in the local maniac theme, I prefer orange and salad, but this is in small accessories, and the GF is so healthy ...

[Larssevsk]

Larssevsk, I will support Larisa, for baking PR, for everything else you can GF.

Larisa, Anya, do you use the expanding function? The princess does not unfold, but there are two surfaces. For some reason, no one voiced this moment as a convenience or an additional advantage

[Larissa]

If you take mainly for baking - pizzas, casseroles, pies, then take TR or PR. If the main dishes of your table are vegetables, meat, cutlets, vegetable meatballs (like ours), then definitely take GF.

Larissa, I'm not here on the topic (I'm afraid they'll be kicked out), but still I'll say in a whisper: my Gourmet copes with all these tasks just with "Hurray"! And it makes no difference to him whether to fry chicken-meat or bake pizza-Ossetian pies, he can do everything. The character depends on the turn of the regulators, at my request it will be very delicate, or, conversely, strong and hot. So, you don't need to take a bunch of different devices, you need to know your desires and find your one and only beloved (for me a Gourmet). But this does not mean at all that he is alone in my kitchen to work, for other purposes he also has something to use

[lena_letochka]

lena_letochka, I did not notice the advantages, the lower pan gives stronger, the upper one is so-so

[lena_letochka]

For some reason, no one voiced this moment as a convenience or an additional advantage

lena_letochka, why? Maria is now in a new theme on the new Princess showed the use of both surfaces and everything is fine. I also tried it, moreover, in deep with oil, and on the lid - without oil, everything worked out, everything was fried, but accordingly, the taste was different "with oil - without oil"

If you take mainly for baking - pizzas, casseroles, pies, then take TR or PR. If the main dishes of your table are vegetables, meat, cutlets, vegetable meatballs (like ours), then definitely take GF.

Laris, I really want everything and meat and pizza and casseroles, I agree to lining rugs and using forms ... I don't want to force the kitchen with the same appliances

Added Wednesday 16 Nov 2016 09:02 AM

lena_letochka, why? Maria is now in a new theme on the new Princess showed the use of both surfaces and everything is fine. I also tried it, moreover, in deep with oil, and on the lid - without oil, everything worked out, everything was fried, but accordingly, the taste was different "with oil - without oil"

Does the princess unfold too? I didn't know ... Or about a tortilla?

[Irina]

Irina, I specially conducted an experiment, disassembled the GF and fried cutlets on both sides. The cutlets are fried exactly the same at the same speed, respectively, they heat both surfaces equally. I don't use the clamshell function, because it takes up a lot of space and there was no particular need
Ilmira, GF also knows how to cook absolutely everything, but has a very good coverage as a bonus. Why do I recommend pure baking PR or TR? Just because of the price. Why overpay if you can bake with exactly the same result, but in the device 2000 is cheaper
Why do I recommend GF for other dishes - vegetables, meat, cutlets, chicken? These products have a lot of steam, a lot of liquid, a lot of juice.The GF has good insulation of all wires, a handle that does not scald with steam, does not drip liquid around the perimeter during cooking, and initially it is positioned as a frying pan - a grill, and not a pizza oven.

Why do I recommend GF for other dishes - vegetables, meat, cutlets, chicken? These products have a lot of steam, a lot of liquid, a lot of juice.

I really liked the clathronic for all this, more GF.

Or about a tortilla?

of course in it.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, Klatronic is generally a separate article for me. Judging by our diet, and what I've already read about it, it will take the main place. And GF only for casseroles will also be obtained for fried cabbage

my Gourmet copes with all these tasks with a "Hurray"!

Gourmet is an analogue of Jardeko. I'm afraid that over time, the coating will start to slip. It is clear that nothing is eternal, but I read how everyone was at first delighted with Zhardeko, and then disappointed ...

Added Wednesday 16 Nov 2016 09:15 AM

Oh Larissa, I like your argumentation, such a thorough one.Everything on the shelves ...
Clathron is good for meat, meatballs, I can take it later for giving. For pies it is low, but I have a grill ... And what can Clathron do that GF won't do?

I'm afraid that over time, the coating will start to slip.

Yes, but only an analogue, and completely different, there is not even a hint of peeling of the coating, no crumb falls off of it, as they wrote about Zhardeko. The only drawback is the darkening on the upper part, which the manufacturer warns about, but this is nothing more than an external change, it did not affect the work in any way. That's it, I don't write anything else. If you are interested, go to the topic, a lot has been written there.

[lena_letochka]

lena_letochka, I do, but I don't use it often. Mainly for stuffed pancakes or just ready-made in a second sheburshe pan.
It seems to me in this regard that the frying pan with a striped lid (again forgot what it is called) or with different depths is more interesting, and not when they are the same. And big ones too - it's a lot for two of us. But I still use it.

And what can Clathron do that GF won't do

Clathron fries simultaneously from both sides without a coup
For example, in the summer we have zucchini almost every day. I cook them both in the country and in the apartment. I cut with washers - 10 minutes on one side, then turn over and in both pizza makers for 5-7 minutes on the other side. In Clathron, the same washers are fried on both sides at the same time. Above, as a bonus, there are also stripes for beauty. The same goes for breasts, cutlets and fritters. I turn them over in my new appliances. As a rule, you have to fry for 10 minutes on each side (if directly on the surface, without molds and without rugs). In the Clathron, a turnover is not required due to the shallower depth and due to the fact that the top cover sinks into the depths, pressing the food

What debates have unfolded. Who has a lot to offer to wait for a new Princess. And you don't need to spend money, and there is a wishlist
And in GF, do you also need to cook pizza on the rug, or can you do without it? And is it better to warm up or form in it?