Fermented tea made from leaves of garden and wild plants (master class)

And I also baked Tony's bread. I chew on the third piece, still hot. Delicious!

[paramed1]

paramed1, hey, nothing hawala eat without us, give me a piece

Here's a beggar, bake it yourself, make a dough once and then get out there. n-ku. Veronica. really yummy?
Tonya the LADY!
Damn, I love hot bread so much, always a slice, but I'll gobble it up.

at work I can not bake .. I'm sitting right now, hungry !!! and at home there is a bar.

And what about my dinner? Or have you already left all your strength on Nastya?

in order for me to bake such bread, I need to drag the dough with me to work
we will roll to you tomorrow

Of course, me too! I've been twisting her bagels here for half a day, so we’ll get a little tea with bagels kaaaaak!

Nastya, what kind of bagels are there all day ???
come on out, I'm almost ready

Again you feed me breakfast!

[elena kadiewa]

elena kadiewa, I have breakfast, you have lunch

Flax, how delicious it is! Weightless! Have already tasted half of the parallelepiped.
And come in - you will wait for you ... At work, at work ... While you work, all the food will end!

Tonya, top cream - for butter, bottom - for sour cream. They, of course, can sour themselves, but then sour cream turns out, and in order to be sweet and sour, it must be fermented with purchased sour cream or fermented baked milk or purchased sourdough.

Veronica, and I bake Tonin wheat-rye, you will have time, read her in the comments, she mixed up Sveta, and I did as Sveta did. And now on this dough that you leave, I bake 2 small breads in the h. oven, I add bran, and germs, and flax seed, etc. I used to have bread in x. the item did not work out very well, but here with your advice, and with her dough, it turns out (pah-pah).
Thank you for the clarification on sour cream, tomorrow then I'll buy the cream and do it.

[Galya]

Lyudochka, look Lena-cat wrote about tea: So maybe the tea collected in different places is different? If we compare the medicinal properties of plants, and the same honey, the product is different. Maybe my Vanka is acidic, like he grew up on "volcanic" acidic soil? in general a secret! Galya, and your Ivan tea is not sour? It's the same swamp.

Oksana, in fact, should be different. for example southern fruits are much sweeter than the same varieties growing to the north.
And there, Veronica thinks the same. But she is a theorist and I am a practitioner. I did not collect fireweed beyond my village. You need to compare tea with Galin. One area, but different conditions. But all the same, I'm inclined to believe that it depends on fermentation. Here, cherries, for example, are sour, sour as berries, but tea is not sour. And, in my opinion, no one has ever had a sour cherry.
And Ivan's tea and I have been sour - even in my first season. I didn’t keep records then, so I don’t remember what made it sour. You see, Oksanchik, the soil is the same, but the result is different.

Lyudochka, why aren't you coming? Here SUCH group is going!

Lenochka, thank you, of course, but I can't stand Siberia. I would be at the equator, whatever: ...

Lyuda, didn't you understand that Sveta got it mixed up? Did you put rye flour instead of wheat or something?

And there, Veronica thinks the same. But she is a theorist and I am a practitioner.

Veronica, dear, I'm sorry! I even wrote some garbage. I didn't mean that. I wanted to write that you are also a theorist, and I am only a practitioner. I'm sorry if you can.

Lyuda, didn't you understand that Sveta got it mixed up? Did you put rye flour instead of wheat or something?

Yes, I also did not really understand it. It seems that she figured it out later.

We also do not have black soil, peat, sand, do not understand what. But nothing sour. If the soil is very acidic, it can give some plants a change in taste. Fireweed is not very fond of acidic soils. We ferment cherries not berries, but leaves, therefore they do not sour. By the way, she also does not like acidified soils. Maybe you put a lot of tea when brewing?
Lyud, what did you say? Everything is correct. I'm going to crack bread again ...

I somehow sour Ivan tea, a small amount, I believe that I overexposed it. There was a large batch, the drying was delayed. I didn't repeat this anymore and the tea was always normal.

[paramed1]

paramed1, Veronica I also have wheat-rye bread, it is getting cold.

I bought cream for sour cream today, I will put it on for the night, tomorrow I will report

the taste is extraordinary! Very different from what we collect at home!

Good evening everyone!
Girls, I wrote that - because it turned out that I did two gatherings almost simultaneously. The first collection was from the village of Vl. Region - a day in a plastic bag and immediately through a meat grinder, fermentation for 12 hours, and drying "according to the scheme". I was immediately pleasantly surprised by the smell from the bag ... So I rushed the next day through my fields and did everything exactly the same. The smell was, but less heady. From my grandfather's village, it was thicker, and the tea turned out to be more aromatic. And I didn't have sourness ... it really can appear from the duration of fermentation.
Even the wild-pear tree there smells differently, not like ours. Well I say - the village is deaf ... as dad calls it "Biosphere Reserve".

[Elena]

Elenawhere does daddy live? We also have a wilderness. Isn't it one and the same? ..

Galya, don't overdo it. Serum may separate. Sometimes I’m ready in 6 hours.

where does daddy live?

Village of Nerozhino!

Oh, not ours ... It's not in our corner, probably ... We are in the Yuryev-Polsky district, Dubrava, they also call the Catherine farm. You can't get through here either, if not a local. And whoever comes, calls it a nature reserve. And what is not growing there! The main thing is that there are few people.

We are in Yuryev-Polsky district, Dubrava

You probably drive around Yaroslavka? And we are on Gorkovka ... so we seem to be neighbors, and from us to you 130 km.

Nothing so neighbors ... It's up to you to Sveta - Neighbors are closer, probably, she is in Vladimir and in the Suzdal region. Yes, we are on Yaroslavka. But for a mad dog, 130 km ... The whole last summer cottage season we drove to Vladimir for treatment 2 times a week, 100 km one way. So you can also visit each other when you are with dad.

So you can also visit each other

Anything can be with us
Although it is easier to meet in Moscow in the winter season ... then the sowing-weeding-gathering-twists will be tightened.

[Elena]

Elena, the idea is good. Here the husband will get up on his feet, I will be visiting - we will discuss. At the same time, let's talk about agriculture ...

I will be visiting - we will discuss

With pleasure ... at the same time I will get out of my village "for my beloved" ... otherwise everything is only at work and back at a gallop.
I will wait for the "signal"!

[Elena]

Elena, and what area are you in Moscow?

Veronica, Vykhino-Novogireevo, but it doesn't matter to me. You can meet either in the center or anywhere else ... I am mobile in this respect.
I have to go to a meeting in Zelenograd on Thursday .... so I looked at the route in Yandex on the map - it will cost me 5 hours one way!
What is there to do? Who is it easy for?

Well then, take hello from the other end of the lilac branch - Skhodnenskaya ... Usyo, we agreed. My husband will walk very well in a month, today it is 2 months after the operation. I can leave home for a long time. Here's the arrow for March and score.
Good night everybody!

Goodnight!

So, explain to me, especially gifted, if you make sour cream in a simple MV, then leave it on heating ??? : wacko: And then they teased with sour cream!

[Natalia-65]

Natalia-65As I understand it, it is necessary to withstand the temperature of 37 degrees, it is necessary to set this temperature on heating and hold it for 6 hours. I will do it today, I didn’t have time yesterday.
Lina , bought cream 35% 0.35 liters and 10% 0.5 - will it be ok?

[Oksana]

Oksana, thanks, but I have the simplest MV and I don't know how to set the temperature?

Natasha, put it to the radiator and wrap it up with a blanket, and as it ferments, for 3 hours in the refrigerator, Lina told me so.

Oksana, any cream will do, but not vegetable.

[Natalia-65]

Natalia-65, if there is a Yogurt mode, this is 40 degrees, the maximum temperature, you can use it. But you have to watch, you can get ready in 5 hours. Heating - high temperature, 65-70 mostly, but not 40.

Thanks, I will try. I already make my curd from kefir, and if I also get my own sour cream, it will be classy. And on the weekend I'm going to Tonin bread wheat-rye oven.

Girls, my daughter asked to bake a pie with fish on the weekend, I used to make it with bream, but now I think, maybe with what kind of fish is it possible? What do you think?

if you make sour cream in a simple MV, then leave it on heating ??? And then they teased with sour cream!

Natasha, girls, and I have such a homemade "yogurt maker". I laid gaskets, synthetic winterizer in a regular box, I close it, and then I wrap everything with a blanket. Keeps the temperature cool.



By the way, I put our tea in such a box for fermentation.
Actually, I have a regular yoghurt maker, but I haven’t used it yet, as I always cook a lot of yoghurt (3 liters). And for sour cream, it should be, because I’m unlikely to cook as much sour cream as yogurt. So, you can try to make sour cream in it. Just tell the girls, do I need to put cream and sour cream in jars, or can this be done in one pot? And then I can't find instructions for it.



And I also didn't quite understand: is it necessary to mix cream of different fat content? Or is it possible to take some one percent?

I did it with bream, but now I think, maybe with what kind of fish is it possible? What do you think?

It seems to me that with any oily fish it will be delicious. But this is me, I guess, I myself have never baked a fish pie. I just love only fatty fish like mackerel.

and I have such a homemade "yogurt maker".

Class !!!!!!!! : rose: Thank you. Uraaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... Now I will have sour cream. All ingenious is simple.

Lyuda, cream of any fat content. I do it right away in jars - pour the cream mixed with the sourdough into 2 small glass jars of 300 ml each, cover it with lids, put it in a slow cooker and turn on the mode. The same, but in disposable plastic cups that serve me for six months, I put yogurt in the cartoon. But the glasses are in water, and the cans with future sour cream are without water in the bowl.

Good morning everyone!

What other fish can you use?

I also bake with cod (but here too - which one comes across, the most important thing is not to be frozen), it is possible with trout. It depends on what kind of fish you eat.

Lina mixes cream 10% and 20%, and sour cream turns out 15%!

Class !!!!!!!! Thank you. Uraaaaaaaaaaaaaa ... Now I will have sour cream. All ingenious is simple.

Natasha, to your health! I'm happy for you !

cream of any fat content. I do it right away in jars - pour the cream mixed with the sourdough into 2 small glass jars of 300 ml each, cover it with lids, put it in a slow cooker and turn on the mode. The same, but in disposable plastic cups that serve me for six months, I put yogurt in the cartoon. But the glasses are in water, and the cans with future sour cream are without water in the bowl.

Thank you, Veronica! I understood everything. So, I'll do it in jars right away. And, it seems, in my homemade "yogurt maker", since in the cartoon I don't have such a low temperature regime.in the heating mode, everything is baked and fried.

Lina mixes cream 10% and 20%, and sour cream turns out 15%!

But only in order to get the required fat content? And I love fatter, which means I won't interfere with anything. thanks, Oksanchik!