Arnica
Quote: igla
The motor and mount are similar to my gastrorag motor, only the mount is gray, and so one to one. And by the way, this loop at the attachment was very useful - I hook the dough roller to the table by it, but I don't have to attach it.
Did you write about Arieta? Then it is also not entirely cheap, but cheaper than Marcato. I just did not find reviews about her here.
At one time I wanted to buy a Teskomovsky palette, but for some reason they dissuaded me.
Need to try.

Anchic
Olga, here in the topic about Arietka no one wrote, I have not seen reviews. I have a sieve from this company - the quality is excellent. I can't say anything about rolling
Arnica
I haven't met either, maybe she just appeared. Reviews on Amazon are good about her, however, they are few.
And I did not understand how much width of rolling she had
nila
Quote: Arnica
I haven't met either, maybe she just appeared.
Arnica, Olya, and I'm interested! My Empire Titania still stands with broken plastic guides. The workers stayed with the noodle cutters, there are intact inserts, but why do I need these noodle cutters without the dough sheeter itself. My husband tried to fix it many times, including following a link from the topic, using a cable channel. But he failed. You can order new plastic inserts on Amazon, but together with the delivery they come out at the price of a new dough sheeter. For almost a year now I have been suffering without a dough sheeter. I want a new one with a motor, Atlas or Ampia I don’t pull out financially.
igla
Quote: Arnica
Did you write about Arieta? Then it is also not entirely cheap, but cheaper than Marcato. I just did not find reviews about her here.
At one time I wanted to buy a Teskomovsky palette, but for some reason they dissuaded me.
Need to try.

Yes, in the photo on the link, is it her? I did not come across Ariette's noodle cutters, but I have an omelet maker from this company, it works fine. I look at the cost of about 70 euros with delivery, it turns out about 5000 rubles. The Akito dough rolling machine cost me 4500 rubles, without a motor, it is one for two (there is also a hemlux). So the price is normal, the only thing I did not understand was the width of the rolling.
Arnica
Nelya, unfortunately, is not sent to Ukraine from Amazon.
I also don't see where it says about the width
nila
Arnica, fOlga, from German Amazon I found where delivery to Ukraine, but this is a year ago. But delivery is 2 times more expensive than the parts themselves.
You thought about Arietka you found delivery channels.
Arnica
Here is a translation of the technical characteristics and a description of Ariete:

Aries brand
model 1593
stainless steel color
Product weight 4.3 kg
Neck size 38.2 x 24.8 x 15.2 cm
wattage 90 W
material Stainless steel
Automatic shutdown no
Product Description
The homemade pasta machine is a classic of the Italian tradition that Ariete has chosen to respect and celebrate by re-offering the values ​​of the previous Pastamatic model, such as reliability and reliability, with significant changes: the new Pastamatic 1593 is actually renewed in shape. and in colors, it stretches and eliminates hand-drawing fatigue by placing the classic motor next to the classic crank, capable of guaranteeing a uniform and perfect dough within an hour of running. The handle allows you to select up to 9 levels of dough thickness, and two accessories provided allow you to get tagliatelle pasta in four sizes, tagliolini, pappardelle, fettuccine, while the standard roller creates the perfect lasagne.

Ariete Machina 1593 Pasta
The homemade pasta machine is a classic of the Italian tradition that Ariete has decided to respect and praise by offering new meanings of the Pastamatic model, such as reliability and reliability, with great modifications: in fact, the Pastamatic 1593 is updated in shape and in colors it stretches and eliminates the effort of hand drawing by placing the classic side-by-side motor together with the classic crank, able to guarantee a uniform and perfect dough within an hour of running.

Power: 90W
Two-speed motor + pulse
Manual crank
10 layers of dough thick
Continuous processing up to 1 hour
2 accessories for 5 pasta shapes: lasagna, fettuccine, pappardelle, tagliatelle, tagliolini
Clamp for fixing the machine to the work surface

The handle allows you to select up to 9 layers of dough thickness, and two included accessories allow you to get four pasta shapes - tagliatelle, tagliolini, pappardelle, fettuccine, while the standard roller creates the perfect lasagne.


Regarding delivery from Amazon, I'm looking for options.
Tashenka
Hello everyone! I am looking for help to the collective intelligence. Dough sheeter Titania Empire, Catering Star motor. With difficulty, but I inserted the pin from the motor into the rolling out. Works. But the motor "hangs". What kind of stand can you think of to keep it firmly on the table?
Lanna
Natasha, my motor also hangs, including on Akita 26 cm - everything works fine.
I know that there are motor stands, discussed in the topic on the last pages somewhere. You can still put books if it is very annoying.
Musee
Good day!
Girls, please tell me, what is the convenience of removing the noodle attachment in the GEMLUX GL-PMF-180? If it is not removable, is it very inconvenient?
Lanna
It is easier for me to cut the noodles from under the removable one, because it is higher than on the solid one - it is more convenient to use scissors, there are a little more places.
Catwoman
I envy you girls, I have my Empire in a box, succumbed to the general excitement at one time, bought it, used it a couple of times and that's it. (
Arnica
Quote: Catwoman
I have my Empire in a box, succumbed to the general excitement at one time, bought it, used it a couple of times and that's it. (
And why? Is it really more convenient to roll the dough with your hands?
Igrig
Quote: Arnica
Is it really more convenient to roll the dough with your hands?
We have an empire with an engine. But...
For example, dumplings dough, I'm afraid that it is too soft for dough rolling, but making 100 flour per 1 egg is too steep and harsh for dumplings. My wife sculpts dumplings with her hands, I roll, alas, she can't keep up with me - I would need at least two wives for this business!
But at least the dough sheeter is NOT faster in time!
About manty it is a separate issue: I can say with complete confidence that manually rolling for me 40 is more juicy per one tab in the mantle twice as fast !!!
But for noodles - yes, there is a dough roll with noodle cutter without options!
Irgata
Quote: Igrig
dumplings dough I'm afraid it's too soft for rolling dough
as well as for manti and dumplings - the dough roll copes well with such a dough. I usually make such a dough - 1 medium egg + 150-200 ml of water or other liquid + flour, the dough is dense, but elastic and smooth, silky on the cut.
And with dense yeast dough - for example, like for Nikumans, etc. yeast dough for steam products - the dough sheeter copes.

And I will never want to roll the dough with my hands again when I have a dough sheeter. = This is the minimum place for rolling out any amount of dough, the minimum consumption of flour, since there is a minimum of flour into the dough sheeter. And, most importantly, rolling the dough with a machine is many times easier than with your hands.
And cutting the rolled dough strips into squares or rectangles, depending on what you want to sculpt later, is also a simplification of the process.
However, round pieces are also easier to roll on a dough rolling machine - instead of a rolling pin, flattened lumps of dough are rolled out by a machine - round pieces are put on quickly. with cunning
Although I have the most inexpensive dough sheeter, now they cost up to 2000 r.
Crown
Agree with Igrig, but I even like to roll the dough with my hands on noodles, the only reason I'm thinking about a dough sheeter is because of the different thicknesses of rolling large layers with a rolling pin, although you probably just need to train more often and get your hand well. :-)
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
I like rolling the dough with my hands
I like it - it's completely different, just as someone likes to buy a ready-made dress, and someone will sit down and sincerely sew or knit))
Igrig
Quote: Irgata
And to cut the strips into squares or rectangles, depending on what you want to sculpt later, is also a simplification of the process.
"Shura, this is not our method!" (FROM)
Just to quote myself (from as yet unpublished):
"The form is juicy. And now I will try to" kindle "a little! Those who know geometry will confirm that the area of ​​a circle is less than the area of ​​a square if the diameter of a circle is equal to the side of a square! Why am I pulling geometry from afar into a recipe? w-w-w "not without reason!" (C). And here's what: the area of ​​this circle is less by as much as 27.3% !!!!!! at least a quarter less! After all, what a weighty argument for advocates of a healthy diet, and especially for women and even men who are struggling with excess calories (hmm, even the argument turned out to be “weighty”)! Here pluses will definitely pour into my karma! "
I'm afraid you won't be able to refute simple mathematics, unless you are Lobachevsky!
Now let's see how many topics about weight loss are on the forum!

Quote: Irgata
And I will never want to roll dough with my hands again when I have a dough sheeter. = This is the minimum place for rolling out any amount of dough, the minimum consumption of flour, since a minimum of flour goes into the dough sheeter
Only with the second minimum I agree. Everything else takes up the same amount!
And now let's smoothly move on to the maximum, which, out of modesty, you kept silent about!
I repeat, I will roll 40 juicier on the manty at least (oh, again about the minimum) twice as fast as anyone else on the dough sheeter! Let's arrange a competition with you with a video on Wotsap! A? however, as far as I know, I make mantys twice as much, and cook in manty-kaskan, and you seem to be in the Princess ...
Here, too, the math is simple: 4 seconds (I take this with a margin) for a very juicy 40, a total of 160 seconds, that is, 2 minutes 40 seconds! My experience with a dough sheeter with an electric motor shows that running the strips, folding them, rerunning them, changing the thickness will take more time! Plus get it, plus install the engine (if without it, screw it to the table), plus then put it on the top shelf of the cabinet!

Quote: Irgata
However, it is also easier to roll round pieces on a dough rolling machine - instead of a rolling pin, flattened lumps of dough are rolled out by a machine - round pieces are put on quickly
Well, if you drive single juices - then it will be beyond a reasonable time limit!






Quote: CroNa
so this is due to the different thickness of rolling large layers with a rolling pin,
Galina, I absolutely agree too!
And one more quote from myself:
"About a big one: there is only one argument - making something big with a constant property (for example, thickness) is undeniably much more difficult and therefore longer than something small, but several copies. Therefore, I would not risk giving advice to make a big one, not very much experienced people in this business. But if you are used to doing big ... "
All my quotes from the "note" about manty!
Irgata
Quote: Igrig
I'm afraid you won't be able to refute simple mathematics, unless you are Lobachevsky!
do not be afraid, not Lobachevsky.
I just didn’t understand - why are you taking a geometry lesson here?
To your
Quote: Igrig
afraid
I replied - do not be afraid, it will work out.
And such small calculations - how much round is smaller than a square - why is this? Well, "extra" corners stick out, so what? so they are delicious.
And about eating less - so eat less "square" dumplings than "round" ones.
And here the diet and form are juicier

if you like working with a rolling pin is not your question then - do I need a dough sheeter?
Quote: Igrig
Well, if you chase single songs, then it will definitely be beyond a reasonable time
if you do not know how to quickly and conveniently work on the dough sheeter, this does not mean that others cannot. I can
And I roll the round ones, if you need larger ones - for manti in a mantle cooker, or nikumans.
Everything else is smaller = squares and rectangles.
Quote: Igrig
My experience with a dough sheeter with an electric motor shows that running the strips, folding them, rerunning them, changing the thickness will take more time! Plus get it, plus install the engine (if without it, screw it to the table), plus then put it on the top shelf of the cabinet!
I have a dough cutter screwed to the table, the noodle cutter is removed - this is a minimum, it is not electric - this is a minimum, I have no second or third runs = I make the dough IMMEDIATELY ready, by the way, also not by hand - or hp, when it was , or a very, very long time with knives in a food processor, no curing is required - this is the minimum, but changing the thickness of the rolling is a fleeting movement.
You do not know how to quickly and profitably use a dough sheeter
Quote: Igrig
I will roll 40 juicier on manti at least (oh, again about at least) twice as fast,
this your possible will happen faster with baboutmore physical effort. Probably, this is more useful, but then it's true - all our kitchen units = there is the worst evil
Crown
And here the diet and form are juicier
Exclusively in the ratio of dough / meat, with a square shape, less dough is used for the same amount of minced meat, and this, whatever one may say, is more dietary. ...
And also, electric assistants interfere with listening to TV, but this is already particular. :-)
Irgata
Quote: CroNa
more dietary. ...
do not use flour and fatty mince.
I use flour of 1 and 2 grades, sometimes with an admixture of rye, minced meat is not greasy, onions are not scanty, and in manti it is so good with vegetables.

Funny, right to say, arguments about dietiness - a form of juicy. Put less in your mouth and the whole diet))

The Chinese and other otherworldly dumplings often cut squares - and what is very thick in their edges, they say, is not particularly.
Crown
I use flour of 1 and 2 grades, sometimes with an admixture of rye, the minced meat is not greasy, the onion is not scanty, and in manti it is so good with vegetables.
Ridiculous, right word, arguments about dieteticity - the form is juicy. Put less in your mouth and the whole diet))
It's funny / not funny, but you can't get away from the facts: the dough is carbohydrates, minced meat is proteins, the shape of the preparation for manti affects the balance of carbohydrates and proteins in the finished dish, and you just don't change this balance in a smaller portion - 1 * 1 or 1 * 1.25 is a difference. To take this into account or not is another matter, but to deny this fact is really "ridiculous".
Irgata
This topic is about convenience and need dough rollers, and not about which form is juicier, more dietary - for how Igor noted earlier, there are separate topics.
About what can to do on a dough sheeter, I told Igor.
September
Although I recently acquired a noodle cutter, this is a real slave for me. I cook both dumplings and noodles. Doing all this with your hands is not an amateur.
igla
Quote: Lanna

It is easier for me to cut off the noodles from under the removable one, because it is higher than on the solid one - it is more convenient to use scissors, there are a little more places.

Yes, I also like removable more!
Pirozhulya
Girls who tell me, my friend has an empire without a motor.
He wants to buy, but they seem to write that he is flimsy, is it true?
Who has been using it for a long time, hasn't it broken?
Igrig
Quote: Pirogue
He wants to buy, but they seem to write that he is flimsy, it's true
The motor is not flimsy, normal.
But the mount-stand for it is sickly. True, for 3 years of work, she is alive and well. True, I don't roll dough very often.
The main thing is that the motor is a necessary thing!
Free your hands and decide the problem of screwing rolling to the countertop.
Arnica
Good evening!
Help me please!
I asked my niece to help with choosing a dough sheeter for a present for my mother. They make manti, khinkali, dumplings (without dumplings).
Is the Atlas 150 with a motor wide enough or is it better than 180?

Arnica
I ordered it on Amazon. it Marcato Atlas 150 with a motor. I don't know the final price yet, but it's still much cheaper than you can buy from us.I found it at a discount, it turned out a difference of 20 euros with the one without the motor. This determined my choice.
Now I'm waiting for the package
Lelyk
Hello!
Tell me, please, my mother asked for a noodle cutter to roll out the dough, I don't know which one to choose:
gastrorag qf-150 + qj, Bekker BK-5201 or Marcato Atlas.
Atlas is better, of course, but more expensive, and if mom doesn't like the principle of the noodle cutter and abandons this business, then the machine will lie like that.
Gastrorag immediately with a ravioli attachment (suddenly gets carried away and will make dumplings on it). Is it really possible to make dumplings with it? Gastrorag not "paper", will not crumble into parts?
Who has a gastrointestinal tract, tell me how is she?
Thanks in advance to everyone who answers!
Rita
Lelyk, if you use the search in this topic - it is at the top, next to the eye, you will find many reviews on the models you are interested in.

Bekker BK-5200 mechanical noodle cutter review
Ksyu-juha
I will also note in this thread, I have read all the pains of choice, and suddenly I do not need it. I bought a Bekker by 18 cm and broke it - something inside - the shafts came off and stand at random. She asked her husband to look - disassembled - not subject to repair / and he can do a lot / said that this is nonsense, not a thing .. I got upset, I know that many have and are happy, and then they remembered that the husband of the parents has a dough roll. And they brought it to me, they don't want it, they are more familiar with their hands, and there the empire lisso sp-150, brought long ago from the states by my husband's dad, for eight positions. Her husband looked at her and said here at least it is clear what you pay for - a thing.
I am very pleased - it rolls well and smoothly, and many summers have not affected it.
Thanks to everyone who writes and shares advice.

nila
I also went to the topic to share my joy. As I wrote in this thread more than a year ago, that my Titania had broken plastic guides on the dough roller, and now it costs me a dead weight. The noodle cutter is really working, but why would I need a noodle cutter without a dough sheeter, rolling the dough with handles is still a pleasure
But every cloud has a silver lining! Now I have an 18 cm Atlas Marcato! I ordered it on OLH, it was written that I was once in use, I gave it to my dad, but he didn't like it. A new dough rolling machine came, the box is only slightly shabby. The initial price was 2000 UAH, but they bargained for 1800 UAH. I haven’t been in a trial yet, I didn’t have time, I was in the hospital, today I’m at work all day. Tomorrow, first of all, we need to remove the Christmas tree and New Year's decorations, go to the dressing, and only then, if I have time, I want to roll the dumplings. Consider a year without dumplings, it was enough for me that the dumplings were manually rolled out And as before, we lived without a dough sheeter!
And now a question for those in the know! On the Markatov site, we have a motor for the Atlas that costs UAH 3099, I can't afford such a price. Yes and no it is in stock now, it is not sold separately. But OLH sells a motor to the Empire. Does he fit the Atlas or not?
Marpl
Nelya, such a motor for 1400r is suitable for Atlas.

🔗

Arnica
nila, Nelya, congratulations on your purchase! You wanted 180. Dreams come true.
Let it please!
And I bought a Marcato Atlasmotor on Amazon. I ordered it back at the end of November (on Cyber ​​Monday), but she traveled for more than 1.5 months. However, in connection with the load at work, I only checked that the motor was working. The main thing that already exists
nila
Marpl, Marina, eh, if we sold this motor
But we don't have this on sale
Arnica, Olga, I read what you bought on the Italian Amazon. I thought that you have been using it for a long time, but you just got it. But that's right, the main thing is that it exists!
Arnica
Yes, that's not all
nila
I came to report on my impressions of the Atlas. Here are just hands reached the test. And then, just tested the dough sheeter, I didn't have enough dough for the noodle cutter. I made dumplings with potatoes today.
Nuuu, I'll tell you, I didn't believe before, now I myself am convinced that Titania with Atlas was not even near. Even without a motor, manually, rolling is much easier than on Titania. Firstly, the attachments to the table are better, Titania always fell off the attachment, and if you twist it a little tighter, then one part of it rose above the table. When rolling, the crawler was not stable. Atlas is dead! The rollers roll out the dough more smoothly, softer (how would it be more correct to say?) Another switch is more convenient, though at first I did not figure it out and began to press on it, and not pull it off. I already thought that it was a breakdown, that it did not switch. Of course now I dream of a motor, but I’m unlikely to buy it from us.One hope if in the summer I get to Crimea and from there I order from the website that Marpl, Marina gave me the link.
These dumplings with potatoes were frozen. The dough was kneaded on a mixture of premium flour and 1st grade flour with the addition of bran
Dough sheeters-noodle cutters (model selection, features, reviews)

And boiled this for dinner
Dough sheeters-noodle cutters (model selection, features, reviews)
Dough sheeters-noodle cutters (model selection, features, reviews)
Arnica
nila, Nelyawhat a fine fellow you have already conducted tests! But I still can't
Such dumplings are beautiful and delicious! And what recipe did you make the dough for dumplings or dumplings?
In my booklet for Atlas, there is only a recipe for noodle dough.
nila
Arnica, Olga, and I did not even open the booklet. Is there something written in Russian? In Titania, there was no instruction in Russian.
The dough is the simplest, custard. Perfectly molded and rolled out.
3 cups of flour (2 tbsp of premium flour + 1 tbsp of 1st grade flour with sowing)
1 not complete Art. l salt
3 tbsp. l refined vegetable oil
1 cup boiling water
In a cup of boiling water I dissolved salt and oil and pour it into a pile of sifted flour. Immediately knead and cover with a hot bowl, wait 20 minutes. Then, while I roll it out, I keep all the dough and all the scraps under the bowl. Everything rolls out for me, without the slightest residue. I try to freeze the first dough without scraps. And already the fact that I sculpt from the scraps last and cook right away.
Pimander
nila, we are on dumplings, that on dumplings we don’t roll the dough in a layer. We make a sausage, cut into small pieces and roll each one. This is not difficult, since the circle is clearly smaller than the layer, very quickly and without waste of dough, that is, nothing needs to be rolled. And don't break your hands and you can stick a lot.
I still don’t understand why people break their hands and roll the dough for dumplings (dumplings, chebureks) into a layer?
nila
Pimander, when I did not have a dough sheeter, for many years I did this ... sausage, circles. But why did I buy a dough sheeter 6 years ago in order to continue to roll out every mug now
If I roll out a long layer of dough in a minute, and in another minute I will stick dumplings using the triple mold. With dumplings, it's a completely different story.
Anchic
Pimander, if you use molds for dumplings, then you need a layer of dough.
nila
Anchic, Anna, I specifically looked for an 18 cm Atlas this time, so that a single layer could be rolled onto my cast square mold for dumplings. Previously, on Titania, it was necessary to make or lining in 2 layers, or to stretch the dough in width. There were no particular problems before, but with a wider canvas I think it will be even more convenient and faster to work!
Svetta
Quote: nila
Titania, all the time, the mount flew off, and if you twist a little tighter, then one part of it rose above the table. When rolling, the crawler was not stable.
Nelya, I read and wonder. We have the same Titania, but I will not say a single bad word about her. And it is fastened securely, nothing jumps, does not move, it is easy to roll out. I'm honestly writing, I'm really surprised. But mine is still working, I get it much less often than you do, we don't eat dumplings. I just roll and cut noodles.
I am glad that you have acquired such a new assistant for yourself, now you will overeat with dumplings)))))
nila
Sveta, how many years I have been using Titania and I also could not say a bad word about her. It seemed like everything about her suited me. Now, having tried Atlas, I can see the difference. And as for the fastening, it can be seen that my table is to blame. I have a small distance from the table top to the cross bar. Therefore, the mount does not grip tightly. And if I tightened the screw tightly, the opposite part of the bed lifted off the table. Well, in the Atlas it is slightly different, and due to its wide width and higher height, it stands more steadily. Yesterday I did not even fasten the noodle cutter attachment, I rolled out the dough in a lightweight version of the bed, and it did not crawl on my table.
Svetlana201
nila, Nelya, congratulations on such a wonderful helper The instructions say in the recipe for making the dough - DO NOT SINK, I have Atlas 150, maybe yours is different?
Mirabel
Svetta, similarly! I love my Titania very much. It is comfortable and solid!




Nelya, let the new assistant please
And I was puzzled I thought I would buy a motor for Titania, now I think that Atlas with a motor is better.
Yarik
Svetlana201, salt, yes, it is not recommended that the surface of the shafts is not damaged by crystals, well, or the salt is well dissolved in water, I do not salt, I prefer to salt the water stronger.
I have two not favorite actions when cooking, roll out the dough and grate, if you don’t go far from the grater, then when buying the rolling I felt bliss, I have it for about 7 years, and I never cease to rejoice.

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