Pimander
Quote: Anchic
if you use molds for dumplings, then you need a layer of dough.
Why use them? The dumplings then lose their home spirit. They are tastier by hand.
Svetta
Pimander, if you with closed eyes give a dumpling from a dumpling machine and a dumpling by hand to try, then I will give a tooth, that you will not understand the difference!
Yarik
Pimander, Pimander, tastier, nope, also visually more pleasant, for that the cooking speed is much higher
julia_bb
Quote: Pimander
Why use them? The dumplings then lose their home spirit. They are tastier by hand
Pimander, I don’t understand why you use the dough sheeter at all? Everything should be kept in one spirit, so to speak
Irgata
Dumplings are more attractive the less often they are made. And who rarely makes them can also make them by hand. And what ... but then proudly say - My something self-made, unique.
How is it made of what and how dough and minced meat - but it doesn't matter.
And when the wife diligently blinds dumplings with her hands, then it is completely wonderful.


Yarik
Irgata, Irina, I do not do it very often, hunt, but they go with a bang
Irgata
Quote: Yarik
but they all go with a bang
of course!!
otherwise they say - only cobbled together with fingers - the most delicious, miracles
Pimander
julia_bb, a dough roll only for noodles and noodles. Rolled and cut.
Anchic
Pimander, is it tastier by hand? or does it not apply to noodles? My men are more important than my time, which I spend on them. Therefore, it makes no difference to them - I sculpted it with my hands, I made it with a mold. The main thing is fast. And with a mold it is faster, much faster. And the taste is influenced by the composition of the dough and minced meat.
Pimander
Anchic, You, apparently, did not carefully read what I wrote. I said above
Quote: Pimander
I still don’t understand why people break their hands and roll the dough for dumplings (dumplings, chebureks) into a layer?
It is difficult to roll the layer. Easier in small circles. And fast and not difficult. That is, for dumplings, a layer is not required at all. But for the noodles you need a layer. Required. And this is breaking your hands. Naturally, for the sake of preserving hands, it is better through the rolling. Moreover, they presented a Gastrorag noodle cutter with a motor.
I really want a normal rolling, so that puff (yeast and yeast-free) rolling out. Heavy with hands. But the cheapest of the suitable ones is exorbitantly expensive. Therefore, I don't make unleavened puff at all. Sometimes a yeast layer.
Well, yes, of course, sculpted by hand is tastier! You put your soul into it when you sculpt with your hands.
Svetlenki
Quote: Pimander
I really want a normal rolling, so that puff (yeast and yeast-free) rolling out. Heavy with hands.

I just remembered about a very interesting video. I love the professional kitchen. Here Gordon Ramsay is trying to make the perfect croissant just like this. They show the dough kneading, I want to note that IMMEDIATELY after kneading it is sent to cold fermentation for 24 hours, well, then the butter is "rolled in" and there are dough rollers there too.

The video is in English, but you can try to customize the subtitles


Igrig
Quote: Svetta
Pimander, if you are allowed to try a dumpling from a dumpling machine and a dumpling by hand with your eyes closed, then I will give a tooth, that you will not understand the difference!
Nooo! Well, you give! In your opinion, it turns out that if you close your eyes, then there is no difference, for example, between your wife and your mistress!
I do not agree !!!!
Svetta
Igor, the comparison is funny, but wrong. The taste of dumplings from the same dough with the same minced meat, made in different ways, will be the same, no matter how much you want the opposite.Just the worn-out stamp about "manual work" does not work in this case. Vision works, visualization of beautiful hand-made dumplings on the subconscious includes the memory of mother's delicious dumplings ...

I cook to order. Everyone says that it is very tasty, with soul. Believe me, I don’t put any soul into it, for me it’s an ordinary routine work, very often through force and through ill health. What kind of soul can we talk about? Worn stamp, no more.

Igrig
Quote: Svetta
The taste of dumplings from the same dough with the same minced meat, made in different ways, will be the same, no matter how you want the opposite.
But it cannot be denied that when hand-sculpted, a ruffled skirt changes the proportion of dough / minced meat ingredients and, for sure, changes the overall taste of the dish!
It's like in pilaf, you shouldn't change the proportion there, otherwise the balance of taste changes: rice with meat or meat with rice - these are two big differences!
Pimander
Igrig, exactly!
Svetta
Quote: Igrig
when sculpted by hand, the ruffled skirt changes the proportion of dough / minced meat ingredients and, for sure, changes the overall taste of the dish!
If you follow the iron rule for dumplings 50:50 minced dough, then no skirt will change anything.

However, if you like to count hand-made dumplings tastier, I will not waste time and persuade you otherwise.
Pimander
Svetlenki, there is a large industrial rolling. Worked for such. You can't get this home. And much smaller, desktop too - expensive.
Rita
Men, if your wives asked you to wash their cars with a toothbrush, because it would be cleaner in the eyes of the wives, how would you react to this?
This is how your whim looks from the side of wives so that the dumplings are made by hand. They are already made by hand, the work of your loved ones is only slightly easier if you, of course, take care of them and love them.
Igrig
Quote: Rita
This is how your whim looks from the side of wives so that the dumplings are made by hand. They are already made by hand, the work of your loved ones is only slightly easier if you, of course, take care of them and love them.
In order to provide my beloved and incomparable sincere and tender love, I clarify the situation:
- the dough for dumplings, manti, dumplings is made exclusively by me;
- minced meat for dumplings, manti I make exclusively;
- I roll out the dough for dumplings, manti, dumplings exclusively by me!
(Otherwise, I'm not as perfect as some would like).
Well, if the most beloved person in the world will not even make dumplings, then excuse me, move over!
Svetlenki
Quote: Pimander
there is a large industrial rolling. Worked for such. You can't get this home. And much smaller, desktop too - expensive.
Your truth. This is also why I don't make croissants. Seconds on the sheeter - with perfect results or with hands - long and difficult
Irgata
Quote: Igrig
In your opinion, it turns out that if you close your eyes, then there is no difference, for example, between your wife and your mistress!
I do not agree !!!!
have you checked or what?

Girls, it is useless for men to prove something, they are smarter than women.
Yes, let them cook as they think is right. Well, this is better than if they hadn't cooked, and besides, the wives were criticized.
And we will cook as we see fit, if a dough sheeter is screwed on the table - it should work to the fullest





Quote: Igrig
when sculpted by hand, the ruffled skirt changes the proportion of dough / minced meat ingredients
the myth of the logic of thinking mushshyn is extremely mythical)))
🔗 here's a skirt, big, wavy, eat and rejoice.
Only not so long ago, Igor, you proved to me that "skirt" dumplings are a blow to the slenderness of the figure, they say, the dough is too much.

Rita
Igrig, you have a very kind and loving wife! You are very lucky with her, appreciate her!
gawala
Quote: Igrig
if you close your eyes, then there is no difference, for example, between a wife and a mistress!
But what if...
Hmm .. what an interesting argument .. I make the dough only with my hands, then I roll it out and put it on a honeycomb form, well, everyone knows what I mean .. well, there is minced meat, another layer of dough .. I rolled it with a rolling pin and the dumplings fell out honeycomb ..How are these dumplings considered tame or not?
Anchic
Quote: Irgata
Girls, it is useless for men to prove something, they are smarter than women.
Irina, and we do not prove it. My husband doesn't want a dishwasher, but he washes the dishes himself very often. And he won't sculpt dumplings with handles, so he doesn't care how I blinded. The main thing is that they are homemade - from normal minced meat and dough without unnecessary additives. And when my husband washes the floor in the apartment with his hands, sitting on his haunches, I don't mind either. But I wash using a mop and a pre-vacuum cleaner. But my husband doesn’t like a vacuum cleaner for some reason. The main thing is that they do not demand to do something more difficult than others. And how they do it themselves is up to them.
Well, taste is such a thing. In St. Petersburg, they took me to a trendy restaurant to treat me to a delicious fish soup. In short, the inviting party ate the fish soup as a result - I could not eat it. I ordered another dish (chicken broth) which was also very trendy. And I ate it with difficulty, although I usually like chicken broth. But this one didn't taste good to me. Others like it. So taste is such an individual thing.




Galina, nope, of course not. It is necessary to sculpt with handles. The dough can be kneaded with a machine, minced meat can also be ground in an electric meat grinder. It is important to sit here and sculpt each dumpling. Well, everyone is resting as they can. I go for a walk with my son, and someone makes dumplings under the TV set.
gawala
Quote: Anchic
It is necessary to sculpt with handles.
Well, I knew that my dumplings were wrong. And the minced meat is not scrolled by hand and the sculpting is never hand-made .. That's why I see my husband does not like them ..
Irgata
Quote: Igrig
Well, if the most beloved person in the world will not even make dumplings, then excuse me, move over!
What a fine fellow!!! well, do not do the dough-mince-rolling, and for sure your wife just with the help of different our adapt and fill you up with dumplings, dumplings, manti. If he wants))
Straight hero ... he makes dumplings for himself.
This year I am a wife for 40 years, I made dumplings, covered up juices with my fingers and a glass with a thick edge, because I had to close them up since childhood And only when 30 years ago I bought a metal dumpling maker, then ufff ... what a beauty, 37 dumplings at once, even, pretty, the children liked them, unusual.
For a small amount, and when there is not enough space, then you can manually roll the juices separately. All the same, more space is needed for the formation.
However, even the HUGE layer can not be rolled out, why break your hands))
Well, when I bought a dough sheeter 11 years ago, it was happiness.
+ connecting wheel = and making dumplings, dumplings turned into a pleasure, and believe me, very sincere

and you don't need a lot of space when the dough sheeter + zaleplyalka





Quote: gawala
That's why I see my husband does not like them ..
a hundred years ago I knew one family, they were still young then, there the hubby demanded from the little wife precisely the finger molding of dumplings, so that it was hardworking, so that she would not be lazy, according to my mother. And the young wife at her mother’s house was just filling up the dumplings with a glass, I learned from her, her mom rolled out the layer on the whole table.
But the young husband - yeah, dumplings are not like that. Sculpt with your fingers
However! on a visit he threshed the master's dumplings for a dear soul, without asking what they were made of, and it was often seen that it was not finger molding. Than very much offended his little wife.
If I were my mother-in-law, I would praise my son's wife, and he would be poked - the wife tries, cooks. eat and do not buzz.
Svetlana777
mdaaa, no matter how I look at all the dumplings in the discussion. Today my third day will go like a sculpting. The first day the dough turned out to be soft (I thought so) the one that was 21 seconds, took out the dough sheeter, but decided to roll it out by hand fool, sho there to roll it ... especially if you consider that my elbow hurts for a month already. On the trail. day again ... and the dough roll is next to it in a box - so to speak, it is watching my manipulations, in short I took it out, whack, a sheet in half, with a rolling pin along the seam and, kapets, which I was toiled with stupidity yesterday.Considering that I have a square shape after dough rolling, grace, saving energy, time and nerves. Therefore, for dumplings, meat, dough, meat grinder and dough sheeter, preferably with a motor and a place in the freezer
Irgata
Svetlana,
I also made dumplings on a round dumpling maker after dough rolling, whack-whack, two overlapping strips, either on the bottom or on the top
Svetlana777
Quote: Irgata
and on a round dumpling maker
Of course, it's easier for a round one (only if you manually roll it, the dough does not roll a square, it safely turns into a circle, with me) and in general the dough roll drives ... The main thing is delicious minced meat and the right dough, and what form of dumplings I personally don't important. (about the shape, here my husband bought dumplings from some kind of fright, apparently in the store the saleswoman praised the type as homemade, branded Pokrovskie (their boutiques) and manual molding. No, well, you got it, so take one box, but no 2 took , joyfully dragged, The shape is like that of hand-made, cooked, the dough tastes acceptable, but the minced meat, I didn't even understand what it was from. I don't buy and don't recognize the store ones, I don't have my own, so you can do it, than don't understand what to buy.)
Igrig
Quote: Irgata
have you checked or what?
With your eyes closed, no!
Quote: Irgata
the myth of the logic of thinking mushshyn is extremely mythical)))
🔗 here's a skirt, big, wavy, eat and rejoice.
For some reason, in many areas of my life I still like mini-skirts (without pleats and corrugation)!
Quote: Irgata
Only not so long ago, Igor, you proved to me that "skirt" dumplings are a blow to the slenderness of the figure, they say, the dough is too much.
This is something wrong! Throughout my life I have never been a champion of a healthy lifestyle, but only tasty!!! Let me quote myself from a not very old drug to you: "And, by the way, I did not write about the diet at all, but only about the amount of dough in juicy. And, yes, I am absolutely not a supporter of any diet, rather even an opponent of any diet. Well, here I am! "
About healthy lifestyle is to Admin!
Quote: Irgata
Straight hero ... he makes dumplings for himself.
Pour balm on your soul! Here I completely and unconditionally agree with you (and I warmly call on others)! The only thing that they forgot is to add that it is also IMMEDIATELY MODEST!

Quote: gawala
How are these dumplings considered tame or not?
Galina,
If they do not bite, then they are tame, if they attack eaters, then they are wild!
gawala
Quote: Igrig
If they do not bite, then they are tame, if they attack eaters, then they are wild!
Then wild and in a short skirt ..
Igrig
Quote: gawala
Then wild and in a short skirt ..
Then they are also passionate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gawala
Quote: Igrig
Then they are also passionate
Gee-gee ..
But for today we have a pre-soup with smoked brisket with real Styrian pumpkin seed oil added to the plate ..
Igrig
Quote: gawala
real Styrian pumpkin seed oil ..
Little Red? Vkusnaaaaaaaa!
Crown
Quote: Igrig
This is something wrong!
It was me!
gawala
Quote: Igrig
Little Red?
Why would it be red? It is dark dark green in color ..
Igrig
Quote: CroNa
It was me!
I am selflessly sharing the undeserved glory!
It even reminded me: "I should have been in his place!" (FROM)




Quote: gawala
It is dark dark green in color ..
??
And we have a bottle of Birnstingl (Styria), so the oil there is literally burgundy!
Admanuli ??
Mirabel
Ladies! So about the motor, it's easier, easier with it? Who went from simple to motor?
Igrig
Quote: Mirabel
So about the motor, it's easier, easier with it? Who went from simple to motor?
Firstly, there is no need to fasten, and this is sometimes a problem.
Secondly, you have one more free hand, do whatever you want with it !!!

Don't even hesitate!
Mirabel
Igor, Well, thank you! I went to order!
gawala
Vic what are you? What about without a motor? This is so lovely!




Quote: Igrig
And we have a bottle of Birnstingl (Styria), so there the oil is literally burgundy!
Admanuli ??
Igor, depending on where you bought it. I have never seen burgundy oil. How many his husband's colleagues brought us, right from there, from private oil mills, only dark dark green ..Yes, and I bought supermarkets here, too, everything is green. Straight puzzled ..
Looked at what the creamery was. No, everything is fine, though I have never seen such a brand of oil and the pumpkin is correct. Everything can be as burgundy. But honestly we were at the inset last year, there was a wide range of oil from Styria, I went around all the counters, only green. It will be necessary to take a closer look next time and compare to taste.
Igrig
Quote: gawala
Igor, depending on where you bought it. I have never seen burgundy oil. How many his husband's colleagues brought us, straight from there, from private oil mills, only dark dark green ..
Looked at the search:

🔗


It turns out there is also red!
gawala
Quote: Igrig
It turns out there is also red!

It turns out that this happens. Thanks for the info.
gala10
Quote: Mirabel
Ladies! So about the motor, it's easier, easier with it? Who went from simple to motor?
Vika, I understand that I’ll get away from the motor defenders, but ... I have a dough roller with a motor. For the last couple of years I have been using it without a motor (it is removable). It's just too lazy to get it. And clean it later. It is no more difficult to operate. And there are enough hands, although I have one and slightly crippled.
Ffffsyo, I'm waiting for the slippers.
But honestly.
gawala
Quote: gala10
Ffffsyo, I'm waiting for the slippers.
Why sneakers? No need for slippers .. For example, I can't build anywhere without a motor, from a word at all .. Therefore, there were no options, only with a motor .. And there was a pen in the machine, you want to twist it, you want to put the motor on. so everything is universal. I have Marcato ..
Igrig
Quote: gala10
And clean it later.
I am even embarrassed to ask: what to clean? Motor?
To do this, you need to push the dough into it, at least!
It is clear that attaching the motor = approximately attaching the machine itself to the table, but the rolling can be put anywhere later.
Mirabel
Quote: gala10
And clean afterwards
and it is also necessary to clean it?

Quote: gawala
without a motor, you can't build anywhere, from a word at all.
I am adding it, but the cabinet door is open as it were not critical, but ...
I think the process will be faster with a motor ...
Igrig
Quote: Mirabel
but the cabinet door is open
In-in!
gawala
Quote: Mirabel
and it is also necessary to clean it?
Vic, there's nothing to clean there. Well, you will blow into the cutters-gills and that's it .. With a dry brush it's excellent .. You can walk with a cold hair dryer. Well, the manufacturer recommends.
Quote: Mirabel
it seems to me that the process will be faster with a motor ..
Naturally. Oh, I don’t know, I’m right before buying a Phillips Pasta machine, I was just baldela from rolling. Such relaxation was .. I would have been spinning all day long .. understandably with a motor ..
Pimander
gawala, the machine is good. Well, we still have enough noodles. And tell me, why do you need such healthy pasta, which is very large in diameter? For stuffing?

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