niamka
Paul, thanks, I will do so.
Umka
On the site, the price of a ham maker is 2499 ... Suddenly, someone needs :-)
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Miranda
Here, for 2358 rubles. And there is a pickup in different cities for 150 rubles.

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francevna
Doxy, Vera, a very necessary topic, the main thing was met on time. Thank you.
Jenealis
please tell me, can you wash the white-sided one in the PMM?
Playful
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please tell me, can you wash the white-sided one in the PMM?
Of course, this is a stainless steel. I'm just there and mine. She's always covered in fat, the bags don't pierce, but for some reason they burst ..
francevna
Playful, Oksana, packages of which company.
Are they coming apart at the seam?
Playful
Quote: francevna

Playful, Oksana, packages of which company.
Do they part at the seam?
Yes, I take different ones, inexpensive and in almost every pack at least one will burst. A couple of times they diverged along the seam, but it was just in the place of the crease and this is definitely not from the springs ...
Natusya
And how do you knead the meat? For some reason, my kneader stuck the meat to the sides of the bowl ...
I didn't finish the white threads.
francevna
Now it's also a problem for me to knead the meat. She used a mixer to make spiral nozzles, chicken pieces were constantly wound. I didn't risk it in the bread maker, there are two kneaders, new cotton, it's a pity.
Natusya
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Now it's also a problem for me to knead the meat. She used a mixer to make spiral nozzles, chicken pieces were constantly wound. I didn't risk it in the bread maker, there are two kneaders, new cotton, it's a pity.
I also tried it for the second time in HP, the threads do not work.
Pakat
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... which company packages. Are they coming apart at the seam?
I recommend to everyone the bags from Biovin, they are also suitable for other ham makers, they do not tear and do not diverge at the seam ...
Look - Packages
Natusya
Pavel, how do you knead the meat?
Natalia K.
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than knead the meat?
Natusya, I knead with a Bomann 362 dough mixer very well kneading
Pakat
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Pavel, how do you knead the meat?
An old Philips HR2694 combine, where it even gave a picture ...
Natusya
An old Philips HR2694 combine, where it even gave a picture ...
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I couldn't find a picture ...
is he tame?
zx6666
Ham maker, shredder, ham press mold (materiel)
dopleta
Another ham maker appeared, hexagonal. "Gourmet".

Ham maker, shredder, ham press mold (materiel)
A.lenka
Larissawhat an interesting advertisement !!! In a hexagonal ham, you get a coangel ham !!!
dopleta
The photo made me laugh too. I rummaged - and in the video it is round.
Anchic
And this ham from the photo is not made from a ham at all - it is not uniform in thickness.
francevna
And I think the bag is round anyway. Maybe in this form the packages will not tear and will be easier to remove.
MariV
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Now it's also a problem for me to knead the meat. She used a mixer to make spiral nozzles, chicken pieces were constantly wound. I didn't risk it in the bread maker, there are two kneaders, new cotton, it's a pity.
Alla, I also tried to knead with the help of various kitchen techniques - I left this business, now with difficulty, but with my hands.
francevna
Olga, knead with your hands or with a spatula
MariV
Alla, on hands - gloves, and handles. With a break, but you feel the structure of the meat mass better.
francevna
There are a lot of medical gloves, I will ask my doctor to knead, because I will cook for him.
Anchic
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And I think the bag is round anyway. Maybe in this form the packages will not tear and will be easier to remove.

The bag is larger in diameter, so the shape of the finished ham will match the shape of the ham (plus the folds from the bag). But in the photo it may seem, or maybe in fact, the ham is not uniformly thick from one edge to the other.And this simply cannot happen in a ham maker. And they won't be torn at the expense - I'm not sure. I am doing now, as Packat taught, and the bags will not tear. There is only one leaky place left - the top, where I tie the bag.
Mist
I ordered Biovin today on the Polish website.
It is not necessary ... let it be
francevna
MistIrina, of course, it is necessary.
I got Biovin today, so handsome. And thermometers are very convenient, the one for liquid, it is for brewing tea, shows the temperature for four teas. But the delivery with money transfer cost 636 rubles.
A.lenka
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I ordered Biovin today on the Polish website.
Irina, and on which site did you order? I need one more Biovin ...
A.lenka
Quote: MariV
on hands - gloves, and handles. With a break, but you feel the structure of the meat mass better.
Olga, but how to properly knead the meat mass with your hands? I want to try ...
Mist
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Irina, on which site did you order? I need one more Biovin ...
I took Pakata from the link, for which I thank him again here 🔗
with delivery came out about 1550 (at the rate)
Linadoc
Reporting on the chicken ham experiment. Moved to another topic.
A.lenka
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I took Pakata from the link, for which I thank him again
Irina, Yes, thanks for the link to you and the package !!!
I, too, now choose shredders on this site. I look - at one point the number of guests on the site increased to 7 people.
Well, I think it means the Bread Maker has come here !!! And for sure !!! Your link has appeared.
Mist
Yeah, today I accidentally stumbled upon this link and could not resist
Pakat
Removed ...
A.lenka
Irina, did you pay through PayPal or just by card?
Mist
Elena, paid by card.
francevna
Irina, is there a ham set?
Mist
The one that I took, no, only the ham - I don't need the rest, I have
But there are different options.
A.lenka
Ladies (and Gentlemen), what do you think of this ham maker?

Ham maker, shredder, ham press mold (materiel)

Its fundamental difference is that it is made of an aluminum alloy. The rest is the principle of Tescoma and Biovin.

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Pakat
1. Cook only in bags, contact of food with luminous is undesirable.
2. Check the possibility of washing it in pm, white bloom appears on the luminium when washing.
3. The handle on top, must be unscrewed to insert the thermometer, a tiny nut on it, can be lost ...
And since the ham is normal, the above does not affect the quality of the ham ...
A.lenka
Pakat, thank you for your opinion!
That is, is stainless steel (Biovin) more environmentally friendly? Am I getting it right?
Pakat
Of course, stainless steel is better, you could cook without bags, but Biovin has a weak upper part, I already turned his head off ...
In addition, it is harder to close if you put a little more mixture ...
Inna256
And who can tell what height a saucepan is needed for biovine?
francevna
Inna, the biovin itself is 20cm high, but water needs to be poured up to the lid, which is 16cm.
| Alexandra |
I ask for advice - which one is better to take ??? I would like to cook in Shtebe1.
MariV
| Alexandra |, read the topic carefully - I personally changed the plastic test for a metal biovine.
| Alexandra |
I would read it with pleasure, while only the beginning and the end, once all the time, I don’t want plastic anymore, firstly, you cannot put it on its side in the Headquarters, and secondly - you write here they are cracking. I want the metal to be good, Beloboka is probably the cheapest, but how is her metal? Redmond is even nicer at a price - 1200. I realized that biovin is better, but I don't know how it will come from Poland for the money.
Leonidovna
| Alexandra |I evacuate my Biovin and lie in the bowl of the Shteba, everything works out great. I cut the bag close to the seam and reuse it for twisting.

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