Stationary dough mixer

Girls !!!!! Help is needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please tell me !!!!!! Finally I was going to buy a planetary mixer, but in the city we only have "Kitchens", the power is 300W, am I worried about something? I found Canadian and Swiss 1000W and 750W on the Internet, but they still have to wait when they reach us .................. ... What to do?!!!!!!!

Oh, where I read that others indicate peak power. That is, these 300 at the peak turn somewhere in 800. I used to take kitschen, everyone loves him very much. IMHO.

Thank you!!!!!! Well that's it !!! Tomorrow I'll go take it !!!!! Wow !!!!

Happy shopping. Be sure to brag.

I duplicate my message from the Kenwood thread, there is something no one answers.
Who has experience of communication with mixer Kenwood МХ271 (/ 273/275/300)? This Kenwood is attracted by the fact that it is planetary and inexpensive compared to combines that have such a function. Like this:


From the unit, you only need to knead small (about half a kilo of flour) portions of dough, mainly yeast bread. Well, maybe beat a couple of eggs on the occasion.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and recommendations

Does anyone use a Bosch MUM 48R1 kitchen machine? we have nothing normal besides her yet. And I want a planetary mixer.

It is not clear why no one is talking about Chinese kneaders ???? 7
or they are not made there ...
I would like this Electrolux Assistent type of all the rest of the junk.

I have Kenwood KM020, bought exactly as a kneader.
I am very satisfied.
By the way, it can also be considered Chinese, made there)))
So what about the junk I disagree)))

I have Kenwood KM020, bought exactly as a kneader.
I am very satisfied.
By the way, it can also be considered Chinese, made there)))
So what about the junk I disagree)))

Well, since you like it, then this is the best))))))) especially since they bought it in China! Class ..
They have a different principle. This one has a planetary wheel at that bowl. I think it is profitable for the manufacturer to release them because of their lack of durability. not in vain on Ebey heaps of lots with these wheels.
In general, the price is unreasonably high.
He has a red price of 500 UAH, and that's a lot.

No, I didn’t buy in China, in the Ukrainian online store.
Is a rotary mixer better than the Kenwood principle? With what?
It's just that Kenwood had the best reviews of all kitchen machines.
so we decided to try it.
Pokk I do not regret)))

It is not clear why no one is talking about Chinese kneaders ???? 7
or they are not made there ...
I would like this Electrolux Assistent type of all the rest of the junk.

talk about different, and about Chinese and about Ankarsrum so desired for you, look here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.0

thanks, looked. They talk about assistant and other consumer goods. I thought maybe someone found a copy of the assistant in China ... but here alternatives were not discussed at all.

Good day. We bake bread from ~ 1.5 kg of flour (flour + flakes + different seeds). Water 1 liter. When kneading by hand, the dough almost fills a 4 liter container. Attention question: can such a quantity of dough mix the Kenwood Premier Chef KMC570 with a 4.6 liter bowl or do you need a Kenwood KMM760 with a 6.7 liter bowl?

I will not argue, but I read that the Kenwoods of the KMS series and the like
short-lived due to the presence of plastic parts in them, such as
some bushings ... the girls complained ...

KENWOOD KMM77006 plastic too? A KMC010 / KMC020?

KENWOOD KMM77006 is also plastic? A KMC010 / KMC020?

Girls, I'm certainly not an expert and did not disassemble all these models. I want to say my opinion and you decide.
All these toys are made in the same way, they have minor minor changes from each other. The principle is one planetary gears (I have not seen them) but I have an idea, and I think they are plastic everywhere.
... I went to a couple of manufacturers' websites in China. they have hundreds of models in their catalog, many pages.
Some have a white bottom, others have a white or polka dot top.
reliable machines are designed for continuous operation and large volume. But there is also a price! do you need it?
I'll tell you, choose according to engine power and design. Like take it and don't think that's enough for you!
Maybe in a year buy a new one with a shiny button.
Or in a month you will get tired of it and put it in the closet. You only live once .

Hello hostesses) I have been dealing with cakes for half a year, and the first mixer, which is the same, I ordered to live for a long time) I asked myself a question in choosing a mixer, I decided that I wanted a stationary, planetary, they don't sell such in our city, tell me some proven online store (I in these matters, generally a layman) and help with the choice I want of course kenwood, but the price suggests that while I can only dream about it) I want it to be reliable, you can also Boshev's MUM so as not more than 6000, is it really possible to find one?

Good evening.
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This is what I was looking for in China, but so far without success.
It is not clear why they do not want to make it more primitive than tuff planetary.
I see only one reason. because all this bullshit quickly pours in, which means you need constantly spare parts or new ones. cars.
And according to your link, I do not know how to visit Sergey.

Girls, I'm certainly not an expert and did not disassemble all these models. I want to say my opinion and you decide.
All these toys are made in the same way, they have minor minor changes from each other. The principle is one planetary gears (I have not seen them) but I have an idea, and I think they are plastic everywhere.

I’m just the same specialist, and disassembled and saw. For 15 years I've been wandering around bakeries and confectionery shops. And the displacement at my work is mainly from 80 to 500. There is a concept of a kneader - when the bowl is spinning and the spiral is spinning, they have two speeds plus a reverse and there are planetary mixers. A planetary mixer with a hook can partially perform the functions of a kneader with limited filling, on the contrary, it cannot. The kneader is running out of speed. There are also Z-shaped kneaders, but this is mainly for custard, custard rye.
Now about the kitchen / household. The most worthy thing that is now just the same from the planetary is KM 010, 020, etc. Two belts with an intermediate shaft, the design is similar to the industrial one, plus a smooth start. A planetary made of metal (although in industrial ones it spins in an oil bath). At the heart of everything else that is sold on the market from everyday life lies a banal screwdriver (if you saw your husband - this is such a cordless drill), the principle is the same. The wife wanted one of the multicolored American ones. Looked at what was inside, wrapped it up with this idea. I was upset, I bought her 010. The only thing that upset me was that everything was stupid. The knives at the meat grinder are dull, and at the blender too. The height of the kneading bodies had to be adjusted everywhere, the knives had to be sharpened, I spent the evening fine-tuning this unit.
I did not see the disassembled assistant, did not find it. It would be interesting to see his guts.

In the Assistant, the bowl spins, but the roller and scraper are in place. With this method, the dough does not heat up, even if it is kneaded for 30 minutes.

I saw this on the tube. Industrial without hook. I think that when flour is added and turned on, there will be a decent release of it. Does he have a lid? In the prom there is a reverse for this. Otherwise, as an option for those who eat a lot of bread.

There is a lid, but it is put on the bowl without a roller and a scraper. There is no lid during kneading. There is no flour ejection if you start kneading at low speed. Sergey has a video of kneading dough for 5kg of flour.

There is no lid during kneading.

poorly

There is no flour ejection if you start kneading at low speed.

Whatever happens at all - I do not believe.

Sergey has a video of kneading dough for 5kg of flour.

It just looked like it.
I wonder what will happen to the plover and this video?
And what is the minimum wage?

Whatever happens at all - I do not believe.

You probably don't believe in God either, since you haven't seen him.

Look at his LJ, including rye dough hook. Only 12 speeds, smooth adjustment.

Can you link to your LJ page?

Only when I sin.
Minimum, in the sense - the minimum load.

The link is not allowed, unfortunately, according to the rules of the forum. Type register in the search engine in English letters.

Minimum, in the sense - the minimum load.

Optimal is 500 g of flour, but I know that some of them also kneaded 300.

And if in a personal?

Well, no and no trial ...

Natalia, unfortunately, it does not depend on me.

I understand everything clearly. Therefore, no offense. Ches word!

Optimal is 500 g of flour, but I know that some of them also kneaded 300.

Well, not bad if so. At least something new in the household market. The only thing IMHO confuses service and spare parts.
Everything is blocked by HP Panas and Ken010. I don't eat much bread.

I understand everything clearly. Therefore, no offense. Ches word!

Everything is blocked by HP Panas and Ken010.

Now about the kitchen / household. The most worthy thing that is now just the same from the planetary is KM 010, 020, etc. Two belts with an intermediate shaft, the design is similar to the industrial one, plus a smooth start. A planetary made of metal (although in industrial ones it spins in an oil bath).
I did not see the disassembled assistant, did not find it. It would be interesting to see his guts.

I am not a cook, and I have never set up a kneader. I was just a mechanic.
By the way, Mistletoe (I don't know a guy or a girl?) Very accurately and correctly expressed the difference between the Assistant and everything else.
There is a bowl spinning, and probably there would be a roar on the belt otherwise.
And most importantly, this principle is very reliable. and for a simple layman it is important that nothing ever breaks in his life. To never know or see what "guts" are there
And all your Kenwoods boshes are household junk not designed for long-term operation. These are just glamorous little things, they won't last long. Look how many people here are asking for help "tell me, reliable" so that every day for the family to knead .. And they can not be in principle. Because it is conceived as a one-time trinket. It is not profitable for a manufacturer to make it reliably for centuries.

I was just a mechanic.

Not bad anymore

There is a bowl spinning, and probably there would be a roar on the belt otherwise.

Not certainly in that way. The transmission is belt-reduction. From the engine pulley to the gear pulley - a belt, a worm gear with a plastic gear.
But that's not the point. One bad feature is noted on Western forums. There is no dust protection at the control board and problems with spare parts even in Europe. There are even pictures of this board. Flour, moisture, its settling on the board, short circuit. Otherwise, everyone is happy.

And all your Kenwoods boshes are household junk not designed for long-term operation.

Well, no, that you Electrolux is certainly not a household company.
I didn’t say Kenwood was industrial. I said that his design is similar. Kenwoods and kitschens are often seen in laboratories at bakeries. Nothing. They work.

Look how many people here are asking for help "tell me, reliable" so that every day for the family to knead .. And they can not be in principle. Because it is conceived as a one-time trinket. It is not profitable for a manufacturer to make it reliably for centuries.

Kenwoods and kitschens on ebay can be bought as early as the 50s and 60s in working order.
Everything is worth the money and you can buy everything if you want. Industrial (European manufacturers) start from 10 liters. Cost from 2.5 t. Euro. They are usually designed for 380, although there are 220. Are you ready to pay?
There is no equipment that does not break, but there is one that cannot be repaired (axiom, proven)

Whatever happens at all - I do not believe.

Here I took off the beginning of kneading for 800 g of flour: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=311460.0.

I will not argue.I can only say that I have never seen him in restaurants, cafes and small bakeries. Among the tiny 5-12 liters, the Sigma (Italy), Avancini (Italy), Fimar (Turkey) kneaders are mainly used. There are also crafts of the Russian industry. Italian restaurants often use miss baker mixers, according to Italians, this is the least traumatic for the dough and mixes well. Well, this is for general development.

[Mixer SATURN ST-FP1027]

As the time of kuleches - so I am all in want of a kneader. But I have nowhere to put the big-expensive one, and I didn't find the small-cheap one. Probably for people like me they invented this thing Mixer SATURN ST-FP1027 🔗
Maybe there are happy owners of this device? Write your own review, otherwise it's scary to take a pig in a poke. I was almost ripe for him.
Thanks in advance for your answers.

I bought myself a mixer Sinbo SMX-2738

5 high-speed operating modes
Bowl and body are made of high-strength plastic
Stainless steel tips:
- Whisk for whipping
-Hook for kneading dough
-A nozzle-paddle for mixing ingredients
Bowl protective cover prevents splashing of food during operation
Button for detaching attachments
Power: 350 W.

I really wanted to update my old mixer. I was staring at the planetary kneaders, but the toad was choking, because not so often I have it at work. This one with a planetary mix and is quite affordable at a price. I decided to take it, let it be.
On the advice of the girls from Temok, I bent the whisk on the kneaders, as it seemed that it was not low enough.
Made charlotte. For 30 seconds (or maybe less) she beat 3 eggs with a pinch of salt at maximum speed and fell asleep without turning off the glass of sugar (right away). Whipped perfectly. Everything took 4 minutes (according to the instructions, the mixer was running), but it was beaten earlier, 2 minutes was enough. I got used to whipping it up for 20 minutes with my old ones and could not believe that it could be so fast.
Turned off, added flour and apples, changed the whisk to a flat nozzle and mixed at low speed for 4-5 seconds. Nothing settled and intervened perfectly. The apples are safe.
I'm happy so far. I got exactly what I wanted from the mixer.
I'll try to knead the dough later.

I'll show you how eggs and sugar were beaten.

It is very interesting with the test how it will behave, will there be enough power for a full load? What is the usable volume of the bowl?

I measured the volume of the bowl - 4 liters.

It is very interesting with the test how it will behave, will there be enough power for a full load?

This Simbik has been living with me since spring. No complaints.
Yesterday I was kneading dough for potato focaccia in it https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=408463.0, double portion, perfectly kneaded, and did not take offense.
Before that, I also had a Simbik on my leg, a hospital, I lived for 4 years, now she lives and works with my daughter-in-law.

Kneaded yeast dough from 600g. flour. Hook attachment, 4 min. at 2 speeds.

Not bad. In sl. once I make the dough a little softer (I did it for the first time).

I will say what I have suffered. If you want to take a thing and use it without knowing grief, it is better to push your efforts and purchase Ankarsrum Assistant, the former Electrolux. Do not go over the various inexpensive substitutes. And the Kitchen Aid, which are considered reliable, cannot withstand a serious load - they burn. Mine, for example, burned out while kneading 1300 grams of dough for two loaves of "Stolichny" for 11 minutes.

I'm not going to knead 2 kg. test. Mostly bought for beating eggs. And I only use it a few times a month, so I see no reason to spend a lot of money. I would have thought about 20-30 years ago when children grow up and they constantly need to bake one thing and then another. And now there is no one to eat especially. Therefore, to each his own in terms of finances and needs.

it is better to push up and get Ankarsrum Assistant

Well, the advice is good, but the price is 1000 dollars!
Someone will have to strain for a long time ...