Taia
Why scratch there? Spoon on fork? It's okay.
I have this insert one-piece, only half of it will not work.
Sonadora
Quote: Taia
Show someone how you place and combine baking trays in a 45 cm dishwasher with other dishes.
Taia, I put it like this:
How to place dishes in the dishwasher
Baking tray 37x42 cm (from the built-in oven), under it there is another one and a half liter saucepan and a small salad bowl.
Taia
Thank you, Man.
I have a large stove and larger trays: 37 * 47. Therefore, it does not work to cram.
Sonadora
I measured the upper basket, it turned out just 37x47, I should enter. Try the same way, at an angle or even on top, on the dishes.
irisska
Yesterday they brought me a long-awaited assistant, now I am trying to figure out how best to arrange everything. The instructions say that "Cutlery should always be placed with handles up without sorting." The following is a picture of cutlery in a basket with handles down ... In addition, my basket is also closed, so it is more convenient, of course, to insert just into the slots of a closed basket with the handles down ... I already started it with the handles up, while the basket does not close, everything was washed, but it seems to me that you need to close it and insert handles down. Bosch machine 50E10.
Anastasenok
irisska, remove these lids from the basket for spoons and place them straight in a bunch of handles down. Don't waste time getting into holes and then getting out of them
toffee
Or remove the basket altogether, and stick the spoons, forks into the holes in the shelf for washing glasses. And you can safely put mugs on top of them. Washes everything.
AnastasiaK
iris. ka, cool idea! Now she rushed, looked at these shelves - for sure, the cutlery should be there, and the basket can be removed. But they will only give water (we are sitting without water for the second day, half the city) I will charge the machine to the fullest. Thank you!
Ant
I want to insert my 5 kopecks, but there is no way to read the whole topic, so sorry if you wrote about this ..
I want to tell you about my mistake - you cannot wash things made of aluminum alloys, which are covered with protective oxides in the dishwasher .. I have a nozzle for a Mulinex meat grinder (the old model has an aluminum alloy nozzle body), so the dishwasher completely flushes the protective layer! And the nozzle starts getting dirty with aluminum! That is, after washing, you walk around the body - and your hands are dirty. There are ways to restore the protective layer, but it's just better not to repeat my mistake.
I wash everything in the dishwasher - from spoons to small baking sheets, I regularly put the gas stove grates on top of the laid dishes (I have Ariston, a 3-part grate).
I try to put narrow and tall things closer to the center of the dishwasher. Always wash at 70 degrees (except for crystal, but it is mine only on holidays).
toffee
And here is my baby
How to place dishes in the dishwasher
And then another time
How to place dishes in the dishwasher

By the way, a baking sheet from a large stove for 4 camphors fits into it. True, except for him, nothing else.
ElenaB
iris. ka, Irina, a lot of dishes fit - both the first load and the second. Great baby!
toffee
So I said that. We, little ones, do not claim to be the first in terms of accommodation, but we are also not bastard.
Delait
And no one bought special accessories for dishwashers, I looked in the Internet stores there are such proposals for Boshes and Siemens, such as holders for baking trays, for tall dishes and such clips, as I understood for glasses. Is it worth it or bullshit?
Taia
Delait, give a link, look at hunting for these accessories.
Delait
here and there 🔗
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Taia
It's all bullshit. And so everything is stable. To put the baking sheet in this way, you must remove the upper basket. And the rest - yeah nuuuuu.
Delait
TaiaThank you, but I have already started aiming, what would I order !!! Only I do not understand at all how to remove the middle tray?
Taia
Quote: Delait
Only I do not understand at all how to remove the middle tray?
Which one, what?
Delait
in my dishwasher the middle one, because there is an upper separate tray for forks-spoons, well, the lower basket, and the middle one is adjustable in height, but if you wash something high, then they will probably cling to the feed, even if you put it in the uppermost position ... I can't figure out how it is being filmed, and is it filmed at all?
Taia
Yeah, okay. It is necessary that the owners of your dishwasher model advise what to do there.
Delait
read the whole topic !!! Thanks to the one who invented it! now I load my car to the eyeballs, sometimes I don't even fit everything, that's how I lived without it ???
otherwise, at first she arranged everything beautifully, so that nothing would concern, but now the main thing is that the rocker does not cling to and the basket stops
ppcd
girls, the question may not be the topic, but I will ask. one friend wants a set of condemnation in a gift. the set that she now has is dark with a pattern. drawing in PMM peeled off. now asks for a light one with a pattern. I've been using Luminark myself and it's okay for over a year now.
does anyone use the condemnation of that brand FARFORELLE
toffee
Here's something I don't remember that someone mentioned such a brand. Most of them have Luminark, but we can wait for someone to catch up.
irenadmitrieva
Hello, I read the whole topic, but did not find any mention of the issue that bothers me: I have a full-size Bosh dishwasher, and all transparent glass dishes are scratched - these are glasses, I put them on the pins in the upper basket, transparent plates - I put them in the lower side between pins. Does anyone have such a problem?
ega0404
Irina, it seems to me that we ourselves are scratching the dishes with spoons and forks - I saw this on my transparent cups and plates - circular stripes
irenadmitrieva
Thanks for the answer. But before washing in the car, there were not so many scratches. I don't stir anything in a glass, I just pour drinks. The fact is that the glass is not tightly on the pin, the pin is obtained inside the glass and in the process of washing it dangles and scratches against this pin. I have ruined a dozen glasses of different quality glass. Judging by the fact that no one discusses this topic, very few people have such a problem. I would like to understand the reason. It would be great if some silicone caps were put on these pins.
ega0404
and can try to use gels for washing, and not powder, is this as an assumption?
Katya1234
irenadmitrieva,
ega0404,
I also have scratches on the glass bowls-salad bowls Luminark. But these scratches don't bother me at all)).
Perhaps the reason is the unstable position of the glasses during washing, as you wrote. Indeed, you can put silicone tubes on the pins.
By the way, is it provided for in your dishwasher to wash crystal too? Please write in more detail, which PMM, which program, which temperature and which tool?
Albina
irenadmitrieva, fill this basket more tightly and you will be happy. I am a beginner, but my glasses are not scratched PMM. The upper basket is always packed. But I don't put glasses in those pins. Maybe that's why.
toffee
Quote: irenadmitrieva

Thanks for the answer. But before washing in the car, there were not so many scratches.
I will express my guess. Before washing in the PM, I also did not see so many scratches on the dishes. And then where did they come from? Do you have scratches or do they suddenly appear and no longer?
irenadmitrieva
Thanks everyone for the answers. Apparently, after all, the problem is that I put glasses on the pins. A friend said that she folds the pins and puts them simply without fixing, I will try this, before I was afraid that the glasses would turn over.
Azeta
And I have a glassware scratch problem. But I think that the pins have nothing to do with it. My large glass bowls / salad bowls can be washed with pins (lower basket) and without pins (upper basket). Scratches appear in both cases.I suspect that these are micro-scratches that we do ourselves (with spoons, forks, folding dishes one into the other) when washing under the influence of abrasive substances that are contained in tablets / powder, from micro-scratches they turn into visible scratches. I'll have to try to wash with gel. Maybe there are more gentle substances in it?
luda_085151
Instead of a basket for cutlery that comes with the PM, I use this one that I bought in Auchan for 46r, it is convenient, it takes up less space, only the handle must be slightly bent in the place where the circle goes straight.
How to place dishes in the dishwasher
Mandraik Ludmila
Dear Bakeries, did anyone wash the shelves from the refrigerator in the dishwasher ...? The glass is kind of tempered, should withstand delicate washing ..
V-tina
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
must withstand delicate washing ..
Ludmila, in theory - should withstand. But personally, I’m too lazy to even bother with this, what is there to wash especially in those shelves .. I put them in a row in the bath and from my shower head, they dry out there, no stains remain
Marina22
V-tina, I also do
Chamomile
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Dear Bakeries, did anyone wash the shelves from the refrigerator in the dishwasher ...? The glass seems to be tempered, it should withstand delicate washing ..
I washed everything from the refrigerator. Plastic, glass, containers. Everything is fine. Refrigerator Atlant is 10 years old.
Mandraik Ludmila
Ladies, I live for the most part in the village, there is no hot water in the tap, my husband has only connected cold water so far, there is a shower, but the shower is not connected (why the shower is flowing only cold - I'm not a "walrus"), only a summer shower works outside, of course, only in summer But there is a dishwasher, hot water is unnecessary and the season does not affect it ... And here I need to wash both the refrigerator and the freezer, before the new season of preparations, so I want to make my life easier ...
V-tina
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
so far only connected the cold one
ahh, then I would also put it in the dishwasher only at the lowest temperature, just in case
Mandraik Ludmila
Ladies, thanks for the advice and attention to my problem: friends: I will wash fragile glass (glasses) on the program
Jenealis
In order to fit more into the dishwasher, I removed the lid with the handle from the fork holder and asked my husband to cut it through. Half includes ALL devices per day, and a lot of space is saved. Before doing this, I bought plastic dryers, but they are still bulky. I put my "cut" on the lower level, between the first row of plates. The machine is under warranty, but this action does not affect the warranty if you suddenly have doubts about this.
AnastasiaK
Jenealis, and I completely abandoned the basket for cutlery, all the spoons-forks keep remarkably well in the upper basket in the folding shelf. There are many holes where all the appliances fit in a day.
Like this
How to place dishes in the dishwasher
Jenealis
Anastasia, a good idea


Added Wednesday 07 Sep 2016 09:15 AM

Just a question, how do you keep them during the day? We have spoiled, put the dishes, put the forks in the holder, but here it will not work right away
V-tina
Quote: AnastasiaK
There are many holes where all the appliances fit in a day.
i do the same
AnastasiaK
Jenealis, and during the day I put all the dishes in a drawer under the sink. I just drop it there. Then, when it is full, I take it out and put it in the dishwasher. Otherwise, it is difficult to guess in advance which dishes will be washed and how to arrange them.
Lilida
And I put all the dishes within 2 days, wiping with the cheapest paper towel, immediately in the dishwasher. It fills up mostly in 2 days (I live alone). Since it is almost clean after wiping, there is no smell. Even if I didn't fill it in, on the second day in the evening it's still mine.
Irina742
Mandraik Ludmila, I also wash constantly glass shelves from the refrigerator. It turns out great. Also, all the drawers, shelves that are on the door (plastic) also bathe there. Everything washes well.
Anastasenok
I always wash everything on the hottest program. In addition to vegetables for preparation. Here are them on the glass program
Kokoschka
Anastasenok, do you directly wash vegetables in the dishwasher? Or did I get it wrong
zvezda
And I almost always wash my vegetables in it: girl-yes: still all the brushes, combs and the compartment from the washing machine ... but in general a lot of things !! Only it seems to me that the upper basket washes cleaner ??? Someone like??

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