How to place dishes in the dishwasher

Maybe someone will not be too lazy to take a large picture of the groove where exactly this piece should be inserted? Esoi. of course, time will be in someone I will be immensely grateful

Kasia, I have a PMM Siemens, but maybe the photo will help, because they are very similar to Bosch.

[Annutka]

AnnutkaThank you very much. God grant you health and happiness !!!
This is for you!

I decided to take a photo of what I had in a day in a narrow 45 cm Hotpoint-Ariston machine., A bowl from multi and speed. multi-did not fit)))
Can someone tell me - maybe you can fill the machine even tighter
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And I put plastic containers on spoons and forks. Everything is washed out ...

[Babushka]

Babushka, Tatyana, thanks, I will know, but I think to completely remove the basket for forks and spoons -or make it smaller.

[Elena]

Elena, I have a basket for forks-spoons on the top shelf. On one side, I removed the folding cups.

[Babushka]

Babushka, Tanya, my top is always stuffed with all sorts of bowls (not even enough space), but I also took off the shelf from one corner to put a small saucepan.

[Elena]

Elena, Just uploaded full-full ...

[Babushka]

Babushka, Tanya - a photo - to see how you place the dishes)))

Well, that's where I can squeeze the multicooker bowl (at least one) it's so big)))

[Elena]

ElenaI'll do it in the morning, okay? After washing ... I don't want to stomp back into the kitchen.

I decided to take a photo of what I had in a day in a narrow 45 cm Hotpoint-Ariston machine., A bowl from multi and speed. multi-did not fit)))
Can someone tell me - maybe you can fill the machine even tighter

Lena, why are the plates in the lower basket through one holder?
To save space, different bowls / jars can be placed under larger pans.

Lena, why are the plates in the lower basket through one holder?

They will be washed off if you put them in each holder, without gaps.
The pots in the lower basket would be laid on their side, and not upside down like you, a little more space would be free.

[Sonadora]

Sonadora, Masha, thanks, so you can put a saucepan on top of the plates? I'm just afraid that the saucepan will not wash well)))
The plates are standing - I thought there would still be plates ... that's why I put it that way, although here's a deep plate - if I put it in the holders - it would take even more places ... so that you can't put a little ...

Taia - Thank you very much for your advice! Precisely it was necessary to put the saucepans sideways, because I wanted and forgot about the plates, I know that they can be put tightly.

I'm afraid the saucepan will fall off the plates during the washing process.

No, the pots will not fall if they are clearly placed. You just need to control so that the correct sprinkler does not interfere with spinning, does not cling.

[Taia]

Taia, Sonadora, tomorrow I will definitely try the pan on top - well, of course, so that the pan should be fixed so as not to drain

Well, this is where I can squeeze a bowl from a multicooker (at least one)

It is better not to squeeze this bowl into the PMM, but to wash it with handles. All non-stick coatings react poorly to detergents for PMM (I'm not saying about Japanese gel, I haven't tried it).

I only washed the multicooker pan in the dishwasher once - after that the baked goods began to stick in it.
Soooo sorry about it ....

And I wash it periodically. The inner coating is normal, nothing sticks, but the appearance is slightly damaged: the saucepan is covered with stains outside.

And in my apartment, when it was a dishwasher 45, then in the house already set 60.Now I want to change to another one so that there are no baskets for forks-spoons, but there is an upper shelf for them. But I still don't have enough - my hard worker works twice a day!

The inner coating is normal, nothing sticks, but the appearance is slightly damaged: the saucepan is covered with stains outside.

My son shoved a teflon bowl from Shteba into the PMM. Fortunately, the Teflon was not damaged, but I then cleaned the outer coating down to bare aluminum, because the appearance became simply awful - all in spots and in places the coating peeled off to metal. I had to peel it off completely and polish it with a metal washcloth. The view has become more decent, but some spots are still noticeable.

[Babushka]

Babushka, Tanya - a photo - to see how you place the dishes)))

Well, that's where I can squeeze the multicooker bowl (at least one) it's so big)))

Here's what 6 people washed after dinner yesterday (with borscht, salads, hot) plus 2 pots, a lid, a frying pan, a bowl from a mixer, containers, etc.
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PM 45 cm

[Babushka]

Babushka, Tanya thanks for the photo, I see your upper basket is so full - super, so the plates are deep so you can put almost with each other - I will definitely try, the upper PMM basket itself, as I understand it, is a little lowered - therefore a lot of dishes fit., And I I thought to lower my top, but then I have a high-large saucepan that won't fit into the bottom of the basket)))

A very good temka for those who are just going to buy a PM. I still have plans

Now I want to change to another one so that there are no baskets for forks-spoons, but there is an upper shelf for them.

Irina, I have a PMM with an upper shelf for forks-spoons-knives. And something is not very good for me, the devices are washed mediocre, in the previous PMM there was a basket, they washed perfectly. Both PMM Bosch 60 cm. The latter is still with zeolite, too, has not yet understood well or so-so. Also, if I previously loaded dishes to the eyeballs into the upper basket, for example, I put a bowl from a multicooker, then this will not work in this design. If you lower the basket, then it is problematic to put in the lower high dish. I'm thinking of removing this shelf altogether and putting a basket from the old PMM

Girls, and baking trays are included in the 45cm PMM? We will order a built-in kitchen. There, the designer said that she allegedly washes the baking sheets in the PMM.

I also have glass shelves from a wide refrigerator. There is only one lower basket, the others I take out.

It depends on what size the baking sheets are.
I am not washing. They enter poorly, take up a lot of space, obstruct the movement of the spray arms.
And since I don't wash the dishes with my hands, sometimes in joy to rub something with my hands - that is, baking sheets, splashing in the water.
I have a 45 cm dishwasher.

I also have glass shelves from a wide refrigerator. There is only one lower basket, the others I take out.

Do you have a 45 cm dishwasher? There is a sprinkler in the upper basket, right? But what about without him?

[Taia]

Taia,
In my PMM for washing trays, the upper basket is also pulled out, but a nozzle such as a shower spray is put on the wall of the machine opposite the door.

but on the wall of the machine opposite the door, a nozzle such as a shower spray is put on.

Likewise. In my profile "technics" the PMM model is indicated.

[Taia]

Taia,
In my PMM for washing trays, the upper basket is also pulled out, but a nozzle such as a shower spray is put on the wall of the machine opposite the door.

Everything is correct.
But then you need to choose a dishwasher model where such a nozzle is provided and it is available. And this is not found in all dishwasher models. And certainly not in budget models, but I have a very budget dishwasher.

And if you just remove the upper basket, there will be no true sprinkler, and a stream of water from the connection point will beat in the opposite direction, into the car door, and it turns out.
I did not do that, I read reviews about this method on the internet.

Well, my PM waved her hands at me: uzhas: after work since 2007. Something shorted, knocked out the machines, the foreman said some block needs to be completely changed .. I will see what new is being sold. Probably..

[Grandmother,]

Grandmother, Tanya, it's a pity how!

Girls, and baking trays are included in the 45cm PMM? We will order a built-in kitchen. There, the designer said that she allegedly washes baking sheets in the PMM.

The baking sheet from the built-in oven is placed in the upper basket (narrow dishwasher). I put it on top of the bowls, slightly tilted. There is no additional sprinkler for washing baking sheets in my PMM.

PySy in the evening I will add pictures of yesterday's loading of the machine.

[Sonadora]

Sonadora, Man, she served faithfully .. Unfortunately, modern technology is designed for several years in total. Otherwise, the factories would have stopped long ago.

PySy in the evening I will add pictures of yesterday's loading of the machine.

We wait! Maybe I can fit in.

[Sonadora]

Sonadora, Masha, we are waiting for the photo!

Babushka, Tanya, it’s a pity how you want to repair a car?

[Elena]

Elena, about repair: there is no guarantee that the next part will not die. And the insulation of the wires that come from the electric heater with a motor and which cannot be simply replaced, only in the kit, began to crumble (from old age). He tried initially to accuse me of clogged filters and therefore water flooded the electrics. But when he pulled out the car and opened everything, he apologized .. The master was very surprised at how well the car was in comparison with its age ...
Today I looked at local online stores. Thinking about AEG ...

[Babushka]

Babushka, Tan, of course, decided on a new one. Good luck in choosing a typewriter!

Today I loaded my own - Bottom: I put one small saucepan on the plates (small), but the pan and the pan (medium) also fit + a small saucepan, though there are not enough plates this time.
Top: different trifles and (another) frying pan. I’ll see how the machine will wash, but at least I’ll wash the pans at last, otherwise they will never fit.

Today I looked at local online stores. Thinking about AEG ...

In my opinion, AEG is a great choice. If finances allow, then you don't even need to think about it. I haven’t come across dishwashers from this company, but the AEG washer has been plowing for 15 years without problems, and recently we bought a refrigerator, while I like everything.

As promised, yesterday's load (breakfast + dinner), standard, daily:
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I do not lower the upper basket, since there is a 26 cm frying pan and a lid to it in the lower basket, otherwise the rocker arms will touch. Near the lid on the left there are three deep plates, they are always washed.
Loading is not maximum, after gatherings with friends, the dishes are filled with much more. In this regard, in order to save space, I replaced the glasses for juice / water with narrow ones, with a volume of 200 ml. Thus, glasses, cups, saucers and bowls for 10-12 people are placed in the upper basket. I try to put all the salads on plates, so as not to suffer later with the placement of bowls-salad bowls.

[Elena]

Elena, Manka, thanks for the support!

I have a narrow 45 cm. I run it once a day, if everything goes as usual. There are two of us. And if guests, then as they fill up. I can run it twice, but I won't wash it with my hands. I bought a narrow one because it was cheap. The place where it was built allows you to put a 60 cm machine. So next. just buy a wide one, but not because now there is not enough, but "Schaub was". They immediately bought a wide one for my parents, but it is used only "on holidays", I just can't stop my mother when she tries to quickly empty the plates. Doesn't want to wait for the dishes to fill. So he washes with his hands.
I place it like this

[Sonadora]

Sonadora, AnastasiaK, Masha, Nastya, well, yes, you have a lot of dishes, I conclude that I probably did not load my machine to the maximum, I was all afraid that the dishes would not be washed, now I will not be afraid.

Yesterday's my download - everything was washed well!
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And this is under the pan - there were plates - washed well))

Well, Top, even there is still a place))

[ElenaB]

ElenaB, download, do not be afraid, it comes with experience. And under the pan and under a large cup washes! I showed not even a full load, I stuff much more.

Yes, I’ll have to show my desktop typewriter. You may not understand us babies, but we also have the right to be.

With plates, cups and other things is understandable.
Show someone how you place and combine baking trays in a 45 cm dishwasher with other dishes.

[AnastasiaK]

AnastasiaKWhy don't you remove the jumper in the cutlery basket? Without it, any little things fit more. All sorts of whisks, beaters, scoops ...
I took it out right after the purchase.

[Taia]

Taiaand which jumper? The top grate into which the forks are stuck? Or what? It seems that I always use it to the point of failure, but there are still reserves ??

[AnastasiaK]

AnastasiaK Maybe it's clearer what I mean. The holes in the lintel are of a certain size, not everything fits into them.

[Taia]

Taia, ah, I see ... I just have doubts, but will the instruments be scratched against each other? I do not try to put them in every cell. It will probably be possible to remove this piece from one part and put there something that does not fit into the cells. And leave on the one hand. Thank you!!!