domovoyx
Now ordering from abroad is not profitable. Space prices. On Ali, the packer seems to cost 3000 and delivery 4000. Noname is more expensive to take, it can work for a month. I'm generally silent about ebay.
Playful
Alexei, well Appers is not a no-name uniquely, long-standing tm. Well, as for the cosmic prices, you can also argue. I continue to order a lot of things from Tao, because in comparison with stores, the price remains very tasty, even with the current exchange rate, because we must not forget that the stores have also raised prices :)
We really have a cheap delivery from the Tao due to the proximity to the border, it all depends on the weight of the goods ...
Song
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We also have this one on sale: Gochu VAC-470. It costs 6990 rubles. This is a Korean device.
Alexei, and what does Gochu not suit you? A very worthy option.
Mila1
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Oksanochka, thanks !!! I went to look. I want to buy something inexpensive for my mom.
Mila1
Playful, Oksana, looked. Outwardly cute. How is it at work? Everything suits me? Is it easy to operate? And then my mother is already 75 years old. I want it not to be difficult for her.
Playful
Ludmila, Lud, since he is just the simplest, you don't need to press anything, he pressed on the sides, he went aspirated, he stopped as he did everything. In my opinion it couldn't be easier and it justifies its money completely. Well made, factory quality. I have already managed to fill it with a little brine and nothing works ... Itself is small, does not require a lot of storage space. Well, the packages can be immediately ordered there ... The packages are good, do not let the air pass over time ...
Mila1
Playful, Oksanochka, happy BIRTHDAY !!!! Happiness, health, prosperity !!! And thanks for the answer! Can he just solder the package?
domovoyx
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I bought one, I can't compare with others - I don't have them. I like it, the price is cheaper and with containers included, I bought it for 5800. It seems to me that they should work the same way. Although I
Caso really wanted, but bought what was cheaper and with containers ..
"I also watched Caso vc-200, 300 pro" - these seem to have a compartment for the film and you can immediately cut it to the desired length, if I'm not mistaken, but it's expensive for me.
How many watts do you have? I looked in the store on the device, 120 watts of power was written, and on the website in the instructions up to 250. Is it such a publicity stunt for Redmond, or do they really have models up to 250 watts?
natushka
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Is it such a publicity stunt for Redmond, or do they really have models up to 250 watts?
Honestly I do not know. It works well, but how many watts, it is written 250 max, 120 nominal, maybe up to 250, when it takes a long time to pump out or when sealing ...?
Playful
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Playful, Oksanochka, happy BIRTHDAY !!!! Happiness, health, prosperity !!! And thanks for the answer! Can he just solder the package?
Thank you for your congratulations.
As for just soldering, maybe too ...
domovoyx
And who has ever used non-corrugated bags that are used in restaurants for vacuuming? And will they fit with household packers?
Catwoman
I used, but I can't create a vacuum in them. Maybe I'm the crooked one.
domovoyx
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I used, but I can't create a vacuum in them. Maybe I'm the crooked one.
What kind of packer do you have?
Shtebovich
The structure on the vacuum bags prevents the edges from sticking together when evacuating the air. A smooth bag will simply be squeezed in the packer and air will not come out.
Catwoman
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What kind of packer do you have?

I have Korean, I use smooth bags only for freezing. It is good to seal products with liquid, the legs do not rise into the vacuum unit.
Catwoman
Quote: S-t

The structure on the vacuum bags prevents the edges from sticking together when evacuating the air. A smooth bag will simply be squeezed in the packer and air will not come out.

Just about, the edges stick together and weld. But if it is necessary for the products to remain free-flowing, then they are suitable. It turns out like a store freeze.
domovoyx
Do commercial packers get a different vacuum principle?
Natalishka
Tell me, who knows? To ProfiCook, besides the native packages, which ones are still suitable? Well, to make it cheaper.
Masinen
Natalishka, any are suitable)
Natalishka
Maria, thanks: rose: Oh how good
olaola1
Quote: Masinen
any fit
Corrugated.
Song
What are the cheapest packages now and where do you buy them?
Song
In the metro Profi cook PC-VK 1015 for a promotion of 4999.
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olaola1
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What are the cheapest packages now and where do you buy them?
Rolls are more convenient for me. The last time I bought Ellrona rolls at Ozone, widths 30 and 20 cm. Of all those presented there, these are the cheapest. Although they are not as dense as native pro cooks, the quality is quite decent. Even earlier I bought Korean (450 rubles per 1 piece), but there are problems with their use, although I liked the quality.
Vinokurova
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but there are problems with their use,
which ones ?. very interesting ... and these bags are corrugated - for vacuum or just for packing?
olaola1
All these rolls are for vacuum, but I already wrote about troubles.
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If you don't mind, I'll answer about the tape. For Proficook, the film is suitable, but you need to take into account the moment that the corrugation goes in one direction. And this means that the packages must be cut taking into account the direction of the grooves, that is, they must be laid in the vacuum unit with grooves perpendicular to the heating element. If laid incorrectly, air will not be pumped out. I like the quality of the film, it is soft and elastic. Corrugation on one side only.
Vacuum packing machine

Vinokurova
olaola1, Olya, and this film, which is in the photo, is not a sleeve, but a single canvas or something ??.
olaola1
This is a sleeve, ribbed on one side only, the other side is smooth.
Vinokurova
I realized ... I have something like this with Ali ...
Thanks for the clarification)))
domovoyx
I ordered 2 rolls of 20 \ 600 on Ellrona ozone. As they come I will compare with Korean in quality. And then in our city only Korean people sell for 390 rubles.
Catwoman
Here in our city they would sell Korean rolls for 390, I would not look for others
natushka
After vacuumizing the tomatoes, which started to turn red into bags, they quickly turned red and turned into mush, cucumbers too. Those that are just in the refrigerator (collected at the same time and of the same quality) are stored normally until now. It’s strange, but they write that food is stored longer in a vacuum.
gala10
natushka, and kept the vacuum-sealed warm or in the refrigerator? They lie in my refrigerator for a long time. Nothing is done to them.
natushka
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Did you keep the evacuated ones warm or in the refrigerator?
Yes, in the refrigerator. Same conditions for comparison of storage time.
gala10
Quote: natushka
in a refrigerator
Strange ...
Natalishka
Well, for me, too, something does not add up with vegetables in a vacuum: girl_red: I don't try anymore
Song
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After vacuumizing the tomatoes, which started to turn red into bags, they quickly turned red and turned into mush, cucumbers too. Those that are just in the refrigerator (collected at the same time and of the same quality) are stored normally until now. It’s strange, but they write that food is stored longer in a vacuum.
Already so many times have written why apples are not stored for a long time in a vacuum ... here is the same story. Gas is released during storage and maturation ...


How to keep the harvest.

In the process of storing tomatoes, pink, brown, dairy and green fruits slowly ripen, and this allows you to extend the consumption of fresh vegetables by 2 - 2.5 months. Moreover, both the ripening rate and the storage duration mainly depend on the air temperature in the storage. By adjusting the air temperature within acceptable limits, you can speed up or slow down the ripening process.
For long-term ripening, tomatoes are placed in one layer. The room temperature should be 10… 12 ° C. In this case, tomatoes will ripen longer, but the number of rotten fruits may increase.
If the ripening of tomatoes needs to be delayed even more, then the boxes with green fruits should be looked through almost daily and by all means remove any tomato starting to blush from them, because.it gives off ethylene gas, which accelerates the ripening of all nearby fruits.
With prolonged ripening, it is very important that the relative humidity in the storage is within the range of 80-85%, since at a higher humidity the fruits begin to gradually rot, and at a lower humidity they can quickly become flabby and tasteless.
For quick ripening, the fruits of tomatoes can be placed in boxes or on shelves in 2-3 layers with the stalks up, sorted by size. The best conditions are created in a fairly dry room with good ventilation, at a temperature of 20 ... 24 ° C. Ripening is significantly accelerated if you put several pieces of red fruits in the boxes or transfer layers of tomatoes with hay. Under such conditions, green fruits are fully ripe after 7-8 days.
At a temperature of 28 ... 30 ° C tomatoes ripen even faster, but at the same time they lose their elasticity and become much softer. In addition, they may have dense yellow rings around the stalks.
When ripening in the light, tomatoes acquire a brighter color, but they can also be ripened in the dark. However, any method of ripening tomatoes requires fresh air.
Unlike most vegetables, tomatoes do not last long.
Therefore, with a good harvest of this crop, there are often significant problems with keeping fresh fruits.
True, there are quite a few late-ripening varieties and hybrids in which the fruits can be kept fresh for quite a long time. But if a certain temperature regime is observed in the storage, tomatoes of all degrees of maturity can be stored for a relatively long time - both green-ripe, and blange, and pink, and fully ripe - regardless of their color. Moreover, they must be divided according to the degree of ripeness and stored separately, since storage temperatures are completely different for them.
Quite ripe tomatoes of all colors should be stored at 1 ... 2 ° C, blange - at 4 ... 6 ° C, green ripe - at 10 ... 12 ° C. At the same time, many gardeners put tomatoes in boxes sprinkled with dry peat chips, sawdust (preferably birch) or moss, or each fruit is individually wrapped in soft paper.
It should also be borne in mind that large tomatoes ripen faster than small ones. Therefore, the fruits should be periodically sorted out, and the selected, fully ripe tomatoes, either transferred to a colder room so that they do not overripe, or used as food as soon as possible.
After long-term storage, tomatoes lose their resistance to harmful microorganisms, which quickly infect them in places of damage or in the place of attachment of the stalk.
Some gardeners freeze tomatoes in the freezer and put them in cold water before eating. You can also store tomatoes for a long time frozen in boxes under the snow.
V. Shafransky
(Material from the weekly newspaper "SADOVOD")


Sibiryachka38
Tell me, did anyone subscribe to film rolls with Ali? I found it here, but I'm afraid of something Look, maybe someone will tell you what? The price is adequate, just very much, it remains one day, is it worth it or not to contact?
Ipatiya
Quote: natushka

After vacuumizing the tomatoes, which began to turn red, into bags, they quickly turned red and turned into mush, cucumbers too. Those that lie just in the refrigerator (collected at the same time and of the same quality) are stored normally until now. It’s strange, but they write that in a vacuum, products are stored longer.

I noticed that vacuum-packed stores sell products with a relatively low water content: meat, cheeses, fish, etc. But I've never seen vegetables in vacuum packaging, except for processed ones (pickled, for example). But for trade, the issue of food storage is quite relevant.
domovoyx
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Tell me, did anyone subscribe to film rolls with Ali? I found it here, but I'm afraid of something Look, maybe someone will tell you what? The price is adequate, just very much, it remains one day, is it worth it or not to contact?
There, as I understand it, one roll is being sold. Average price. Maybe not even cheap for Ali
Sibiryachka38
domovoyx, thanks for paying attention, for some reason I thought that there were 2 rolls in the kit, but yes, it was expensive for one.
domovoyx
The Chinese are cunning. On ozone, normal prices
Natalia K.
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On ozone, normal prices
In comfort, the maximum is also very reasonable prices.
domovoyx
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In comfort, the maximum is also very reasonable prices.
And how are they with delivery to the regions?
Natalia K.
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And how are they with delivery to the regions?
We have a representative from this store on the forum. He can answer all your questions.
In general, their service is at the highest level. And delivery is also available in the regions.
domovoyx
I do not advertise any stores, I just advise how to buy profitably, and without prepayment, if convenient. Everyone will choose as it is convenient for him.
Natalia K.
And what does advertising have to do with it? I, just like you, wrote in which store the adequate price for film and bags for the packer.
domovoyx
The girl lives in Irkutsk, read the information.
Masinen
natalisha_31, everything in comfort, that is, on Ozone)
domovoyx
Ease of delivery is the most important thing, their price is almost the same for packages and films. At least for me, the convenience of delivery and payment plays an important role when making a purchase in an online store.

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