Electric smokehouse-pressure cooker Brand 6060

[Arka]

Arka, I cook the marinade at the rate of 2 tbsp. tablespoons of salt and 1 tbsp. tablespoons of sugar per 1 liter of water, add bay leaf, 5-6 allspice peas, 8-10 black peppercorns and 1-2 cloves. When the marinade has cooled, I pour the gutted fish with it and put it in the refrigerator for 2-3 days. I cook salted fish in a smokehouse on the "hot smoked" mode for 30-35 minutes, depending on the size of the fish. If you have a forming mesh and collagen film, you can make a roll. Separate the bones, roll them up in a foil and place them in a forming mesh, then cook in the same mode.

[Olga]

Olga, thanks for the detailed information!
Everything is clear with marinades. One question: why cook for so long? Is this a mackerel chip? Or are there some nuances that I did not notice?
I cook all the fish no longer than 15 minutes + 5 minutes to set pressure, but usually I set the total time in pressure cookers to 15-16 minutes. I have never done mackerel, because I have so many questions.
Does she need more?
I have already cooked the marinade, I will "dip" the fish at night. At the same time I will test and update the vacuum cleaner. In a vacuum, perhaps you can marinate less? Day is enough?

[olaola1]

olaola1, Olga, make a recipe so that you can save, please! ..

[Arka]

Arka, this recipe is pure improvisation, the first time I did it "by typing", set the time at random, I liked the result. The photo shows how juicy the roll is. It was exactly the taste that I remember from my student days. I studied in Leningrad, lived next to the Strela grocery store, where they sold mackerel rolls, how I loved it ... I didn't try to cook for less time. Perhaps, if you cook the carcass, then the time can be set less, but the roll is quite plump, it takes more time.
Natusya, in my opinion a similar recipe is on the forum. I’ll look for it, if I don’t find it, I’ll draw up a recipe.

[olaola1]

olaola1, Ol, call it "Marinade for mackerel (fish)" and then the recipe. There is a similar one, but there is none or I did not find it. Then knock me.

Girls, good afternoon. I look at this wonderful smokehouse-pressure cooker and such a question. There I understood, only a bowl for smoking included? And I need to buy a separate bowl without a pin for other cooking. So this is a question. What are the exact dimensions of the bowl? I have multicooker Dex 60, Scarlett SC-410 and PHILIPS HD3036 / 03. All of them have exactly the same bowl in shape and size, therefore they were bought as interchangeable ones, and there are also a couple of pots that were also spare, purchased separately. So, can anyone know if they are suitable for this smokehouse-pressure cooker? So that I don't buy too much.

[Tanya]

Tanya, no, they will not work, since the smokehouse has a six-liter bowl.

[Mona1]

Mona1, Tanya, I immediately bought myself an additional bowl .. I thought I would cook something in addition to smoking .. but it so happened that in this vessel I only smoke ... everything is just saturated with smoking aromas ... therefore, except for pea soup, knuckle, I don't even dream of cooking anything in it)))
they say that a spare silicone ring saves, but I can hardly believe it .. maybe just because I smoke often)))

[Ksyushk @ -Plushk @]

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @, Vinokurova, Ksyusha, Alena, thank you! Already placed an order, they will bring it by the weekend. And I ordered a bowl, let it be .. So I'll start reading Temko from the very beginning, before the weekend I need to figure it out. We were at sea, and there were many apricot and cherry trees. This is how I felt, I made two bags of dry twigs from them, I thought about trying to smoke in the airfryer, and now I will try it in the smokehouse.
I am also very glad that I ordered, because Brand is not sold in Ukraine, it is only growing. market, just like Dex - only in Ukraine. And right now, in Donetsk, it is not clear what the habitat, goods and Ukrainian, and growing up., Choose, as they say, and a very large online store opened in the city, sells growing. goods are different, so I ordered there today, but before I only dreamed of this Brand smokehouse.

I immediately bought myself an extra bowl .. I thought I would cook something in addition to smoking .. but it so happened that I only smoke in this bowl ... everything is just saturated with smoking aromas ... therefore, except for pea soup on the shank , I don't even dream of cooking anything in it)))
they say that a spare silicone ring saves, but I can hardly believe it .. maybe just because I smoke often)))

I also smoke often, but I also cook milk in it (an extra bowl of course) there are no smells and tastes)))

I also smoke often, but I also cook milk in it (an additional bowl of course) there are no smells and tastes)))

I'll believe you))) on the word)))

Girls, please help. I also bought this smokehouse, but now a problem arose: after about 10 minutes of operation, the automatic machine knocks out (it is already at 16 amperes), what could it be? Is the multicooker faulty or what? Can anyone come across, tell me

My smokehouse behaves like that too. Was already in 2 services + twice at home they changed the heating element. In one service they say: this is due to a leaky heating element for smoking, in another: the board is buggy. But the problem was never solved.

But the problem was never solved.

Thanks for the answer! How do you cook then?

Posted on Friday 19 Aug 2016 11:52 PM

I’m still thinking, but couldn’t I get the “old” smokehouse, how do I know when it was made? I just look at the photo of the girls with a bowl for chips without metal legs, and mine with legs (like they wrote that this was the case for the pressure cookers of the first batch)

But I don't cook in any way. She is in the service. Where the "board flew". I told them everything that I think about the fee, expressed, so they decided to "look" more. While the silence ... Looks like they are wiping the glasses ...
And jars with legs like and in the latter began to sculpt.

such a disappointment befell me (It was a birthday present And what to do now? We do not have an authorized service center in Bryansk, wrote on the company's forum, maybe they will answer something

[Galya13]

Galya13, Gal, can you hand it over? .. if it's not too late

Added Saturday 20 Aug 2016 10:29 AM

I have Unit 1210s. I took him to the dacha, it works perfectly and does not knock out any traffic jams! I'm happy! ..

Natusya, I don’t know what it is. took her today to her mother-in-law, try to turn it on there, and it works as expected, today I tried to drive her in the "Soup" mode, worked it out to the end as expected, I don't understand anything, I probably should have tried and smoke today, but something scary

[Galya]

Galya, then at home 🏠 with wiring malfunction. Maybe the same machine "crumbled". When baking, my hp began to knock out on one of the sockets in the kitchen. I don't include it there anymore. My husband has no time to check this outlet. Fortunately, the rest works fine.

Most likely, the mother-in-law does not have an RCD, if it does not knock it out, but an ordinary machine. Yes, and no one turned on smoking, right? And it works exactly when the heating element is turned on. If it is a leak, then it is RCD machines that are very sensitive. Let the techies correct me if I think wrong, because I am the purest humanitarian
In my smokehouse, all programs are working fine. And only on smoking, the RCD is triggered when the pin is turned on

Galya, it means at home 🏠 there is a problem with the wiring. Maybe the same machine "crumbled"

We have new wiring, we changed it immediately after buying the house. And there are many other equipment - Brand 6051 pressure cooker, microwave, 2 bread machines - and nothing like this has ever happened

Most likely, the mother-in-law does not have an RCD, if it does not knock it out, but an ordinary machine.

Yes, she does not have an RCD.And we have a difavtomat, but it didn't work when an ordinary machine gun was knocked out. Nata, do you turn off an RCD or a conventional machine?

Yes, and no one turned on smoking, right?

The mother-in-law once smoked, smoked the chicken.

I have all automatic diffs. In the kitchen and the balcony, all the sockets are connected to the same machine, I tried different sockets, the result is the same: when you turn on the pin, that is, smoking, the machine turns off.
Other devices work fine there.

I will not solve this puzzle, it is beyond my competence.

In the kitchen and balcony, all sockets are connected to one machine,

But this is a big mistake. I have 4 vending machines in the kitchen and balcony. And then in one 4-ke it happens to knock out an RCD.

We have new wiring, we changed it immediately after buying the house.

The wiring can be new, but with a small cross-section. Then he can also kick out.

[Ksenia]

The wiring can be new, but with a small cross-section. Then he can also kick out.

Ksenia, here you are not quite right. The small cross-section of the wires in itself cannot lead to the operation of the RCD or "knocking out" the machines when the pressure cooker is connected. The worst thing that can happen if the load is large and the cross-section is insufficient is the heating of the wires. As a result, with extreme and prolonged influences, insulation melting and short-circuit are possible - then the machine will knock out. Considering the power of the pressure cooker is 1 kW, the current from the ~ 220 V network will be about 4.5 A, enough, with a margin, wires with a cross section of 0.75 sq. mm. It is unlikely that people, changing the wiring to a new one, laid wires of an even smaller section, not a single sane electrician or installer will bring such thin wires to the outlet.
As for the case when the machine knocks out when the smoking mode is turned on, that is, the voltage is applied to the chip charring pin - it's not about the wiring or its section, it's just that the pin has a "leak" to the body, a "breakdown" due to an internal defect , poor insulation of the heating element. Such cases, although rare, do occur. The smoking bowl, or at least the pin itself, must be replaced, it is impossible to operate, it is unsafe.

[Ksyushk @ -Plushk @]

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @, Ksyusha, I read Temka from the beginning, I have already reached the place where you bought the smokehouse. Mine is on the way, I'm waiting. And I read something, and there, in 2012, many had some kind of problem with the sealing ring, which is not at all the same as on the American model, then with the cold smoking mode there is a problem, you also read it, too, not all ice was with purchase. Well I'm worried, well, I hope that Brand has eliminated all these problems in 4 years. Shaw there right now in the new smokehouses, the same "cockroaches" or what other glitches have appeared? Are the rings good now?

[Tanya]

Tanya, do you think something was fixed? I highly doubt it. And what was wrong with me? Everything seemed to be fine, except for the mark on the bowl.

Alex_Fil, You're right. But we don't know who and how changed the wiring to people. Why did everything work fine in the other house? This is the main question ❔ Galina.

So after all, Galina said about her mother-in-law

Yes, she does not have an RCD.

A conventional machine will not react to a leak. Only RCD or Diff. machine. That is why, with the defect I spoke about, this happens:

I have all automatic diffs. In the kitchen and the balcony, all the sockets are connected to the same machine, I tried different sockets, the result is the same: when you turn on the pin, that is, smoking, the machine turns off.
Other devices work fine there.

[Ksyushk @ -Plushk @]

Ksyushk @ -Plushk @, Ksyusha, you there in your first post conducted the first tests and wrote that three problems came to light. I have not read further yet, maybe everything inessential turned out

[Alex_Fil]

Alex_Fil, it is at the Arch everywhere knocking out its copy. And at Gali's house he kicks out, the mother-in-law does not. And while at Gali's house 🏠

And we have a difavtomat, but it didn't work when an ordinary machine gun was knocked out.

Don't confuse us
In a word, either to the service + checking the house 🏠 the wiring, or to hand over the smokehouse, but in this case, I would check the vodka.

Added Sunday 21 Aug 2016 10:59 am

Tanya, these poser were not problems. That's why I asked the representatives to write to me in a personal message.
In my copy, only the mark is shifted slightly to the side. But I got used to installing the bowl correctly the first time. And smoke (steam) happens not only in the smokehouse, but also in my other two pressure cookers. These are either crooked handles, or in a hurry. That the same count.

In any case, if other appliances connected to the outlet do not knock out the vending machine, then the point is in the pressure cooker, and not in the outlet or wires. And if the pressure cooker works on programs other than smoking and does not knock out anything, the point is in the smoking bowl, or rather, the pin. Diagnostics must be carried out in the SC, at home not everyone has a megohmmeter and other measuring equipment. Alternatively, maybe it's not even the pin itself, but the wires or contacts in the body to which the bowl is connected. Guessing from a distance, over the Internet, is counterproductive.

P.S.
What can you check at home? Try turning on the smoker without a bowl to the Cold Smoked setting. On hot smoking and other modes, you cannot turn on without a bowl - the main heating element will start heating, and without a bowl it can overheat very quickly.
If we turn on cold smoking without a bowl, we will check the internal electronics (power board, relay, connecting wires and terminals) for a malfunction. The voltage will not come to the main heating element, it will only go to the terminals for the heater-pin. If the machine does not knock out, OK - turn off everything, put the bowl and turn on the Cold smoking mode again. Voltage will be applied to the charring pin. Its power is about 100 W and this should not knock out the AP with any reasonable thickness of wiring in the house and the health of the bowl with a pin.
If the machine knocks out, it means that the insulation breakdown occurs precisely in the pin or the place of its attachment to the bowl.
And the fact that Galina was knocked out by a machine gun, not a differential. automatic - so in fact, and diff. the machine may be faulty, it is difficult to check it, only by replacing it with a known good one.

I have two smokehouses and both have BIG problems with the pin, it has been repaired more than once, now again one is waiting for repair.

But we don't know who and how changed the wiring to people.

Our friend changed the wiring, he is an electrician), we have 2.5 wiring

Added Sunday 21 Aug 2016 12:47 PM

Word or service

And we don't have a service in Bryansk, where should we send it? Yes, and I would not want to go to the service, it's better to exchange then, maybe you will be more lucky

[Alex_Fil]

P.S.
What can you check at home? Try turning on the smoker without a bowl to the Cold Smoked setting. On hot smoking and other modes, you cannot turn on without a bowl - the main heating element will start heating, and without a bowl it can overheat very quickly.
If we turn on cold smoking without a bowl, we will check the internal electronics (power board, relay, connecting wires and terminals) for a malfunction. The voltage will not come to the main heating element, it will only go to the terminals for the heater-pin. If the machine does not knock out, OK - turn off everything, put the bowl and turn on the Cold smoking mode again. Voltage will be applied to the charring pin. Its power is about 100 W and this should not knock out the AP with any reasonable thickness of wiring in the house and the health of the bowl with a pin.
If the machine knocks out, it means that the insulation breakdown occurs precisely in the pin or the place of its attachment to the bowl.
And the fact that Galina was knocked out by a machine gun, not a differential. automatic - so in fact, and diff. the machine may be faulty, it is difficult to check it, only by replacing it with a known good one.

Alex_Fil, thank you, good person and thank God that I read your post an hour before they brought my smoker. I checked it when buying on the Cold Smoking mode. Exposed 10 minutes. Three minutes later, the traffic jams went out. We tried take two, plugged it into a powerful outlet, a separate machine for it, with a thick cable, again the same song, three minutes later it was knocked out from the beginning. It's good that I have read and checked.They took it back, they said, next week another car from Russia would be unloading, there would also be this smokehouse, they would check it there themselves in the same way, and if everything was OK, then they would bring it. But, I told them that I myself will also check anyway. So far I have such an incident. Why do many have such a problem? I am reading right now from the beginning of Temko, then in 2012 -2013 there was no such glitch, maybe now it is a faulty party or the Chinese have relaxed, how did they start doing it?

turn on cold smoking without a bowl - check the internal electronics (power board, relay, connecting wires and terminals) for a malfunction. Voltage will not come to the main heating element, it will only go to the terminals for the heater-pin. If the machine does not knock out, OK - turn everything off, put the bowl down and turn on the Cold smoking mode again. Voltage will be applied to the charring pin. Its power is about 100 W and this should not knock out the AP with any reasonable thickness of the wiring in the house and the health of the bowl with the pin.
If the machine knocks out, it means that the insulation breakdown occurs precisely in the pin or the place of its attachment to the bowl.

Alex, thanks for the way to check! If the SC does not cope, we will check in this way to narrow the search for the problem.

Added Sunday 21 Aug 2016 4:05 pm

I am reading right now from the beginning of Temko, then in 2012 -2013 there was no such glitch, maybe now it is a faulty party or the Chinese have relaxed, how did they start doing it?

I have just one of those 2012-13.

I have just one of those 2012-13.

Did she knock you out from the very beginning, or was it normal for a while? And then it already began to glitch?

Added Sunday 21 Aug 2016 04:45 PM

They called me right now from the store. They said that they checked there three more times for 10 minutes each on cold smoking. 1 time with the lid closed and 2 with the open one and that nothing knocks out. It looks like they said I had a problem with the wiring. Well I do not know. We have a separate powerful socket with a separate automatic machine and a thick cable, the washing machine does not knock out, but it even has a little more than 1000 W, and in the smokehouse it knocks out 1000.
In general, they said that the smokehouse was in good order, and their manager took it for herself. They asked if I would order the next one, there will be delivery next week, I said no. What's the point? If this type is good, and this is buggy in my house, so the other will be the same. In general, unfortunately, it did not grow together with me with the smokehouse.

[Tanya]

Tanya
It’s a pity that it didn’t work out for you with the smoker!
I have already said above that in Cold Smoking, only a pin is turned on, a charcoal heater, the power of which is 100 W, the thinnest wiring and a weak machine can withstand such a load, especially since your washing machine can withstand.
I don't trust managers from the store, they can say a lot of good things, their task is to sell the goods.
In any case, it's a pity when the purchase becomes not a joy.

I was surprised that they tested them three times for 10 minutes and never knocked out the plugs. Well, maybe they lied, of course. It would be interesting for me to find out - that lady-manager of theirs, that supposedly immediately took her to herself, will she have a bug? But I don’t recognize this. )) I tried not to get very upset and accept the failure with a smoking one philosophically, maybe they decided from above that I need an American smoker (what is it called, by the way?), Especially since at the same time I bought from them Tefalevskie floor scales, beautiful, with in big numbers, so something good happened to me today.

The American will work only through a step-down transformer, they have 110, not 220

Tatyana, I still hoped that mine would work, but after your post, the hope is gone, tomorrow I will try to check it in the same way, then I will unsubscribe

[Tanyulya]

I looked, in this store there is also UNIT USP-1200S, UNIT USP-1210S and UNIT USP-1220 S. We have a video on the first topic and there is a video Tanya Tanyulya I laid it out, so a copy of Brand is direct, but the pans are sluggish in appearance, although the set includes two pots at once. But I already have some kind of jitters, I can order some of them.

what is it called, by the way?

Emson Electric 5Qt Smoker

I report: in the morning I put the meat on the combined program "Cold + hot smoking", it took only 50 minutes, the smokehouse worked as expected, the machine did not turn off, so what is it?

Question to the experts:
Two extreme times - smoking 20 cold +10 hot .. after the end of the program, the display shows an error E2 ..
What could it be?. maybe my smokehouse is in big trouble?

[AlenKa]

AlenKa, I have already addressed the service center three times with such a problem, and now it is necessary again, they change something there and then it works fine.

Still, the smokehouse was covered ((

[Vesta]

Vesta, Svetochek, so lazy to drag along !. I and so with a bread maker to them twice this summer wound (((
Do you think we should go ?. will not work by itself ?.

[AlenKa]

AlenKa, I don’t know, I didn’t work, and I’m too lazy to go, but I want homemade smoked meats

[AlenKa]

AlenKa, I don’t know, I didn’t work, and I’m too lazy to go, but I want homemade smoked meats

Consider persuaded!

Girls, tell me about the valve, is it closed or open when smoking in pressure cookers? Something I read, read already got confused.

Girls, tell me about the valve, is it closed or open when smoking in pressure cookers? Something I read, read already got confused.

Can you answer the boys? ))) When smoking hot, the valve closes, for this we add water to the bowl.