Lagri
With your new assistant and your first bread! Let the oven serve you for a long time and please you with delicious bread! The stove you purchased is excellent. : D The bread turned out to be excellent too.
Rina
Krona, welcome to our company!

Until then, in order. We begin mastering with ... reading. Look at the beginning of the topic, the very first message describes the minimum you need to start with. Next, look at the instructions for the bread maker - there is a plate that indicates in which modes the dispenser works (main with raisins, dough with raisins, dietary with raisins ...) If you want to add dry spices, you can pour them directly into the flour. But raisins, candied fruits, all sorts of nuts, that is, what should remain in pieces in the dough, it is better to put in a dispenser or wait for it to work and add manually (if there are suddenly more additives than the dispenser holds). Otherwise, dried fruits / nuts will simply grind. To understand what can happen, check out Elena Bo's recipe The cake is delicious (photo of Easter cake with cherries), by the way, try this particular recipe, it is painted in great detail, it was prepared just in Panasonic.
Krona
Lagri, Rina, thanks!
Of course, I will now read everything carefully. It just so happened that before buying, I didn't pay much attention to the recipes, the emphasis was on choosing a brand of oven. And yesterday I was mortally tired, but I couldn't wait to try it, so the stove is clever, despite my carelessness, it still did a great job.
Today I read a little, the recipe book is simply luxurious, although my priority is rye bread, I already want to try a lot.
First of all, Easter cake, since the stove appeared so on time. So thanks for the advice, otherwise I opened a bunch of themes with Easter cakes, puzzled over which recipe to choose and dreamed of someone pointing a finger at the thread. Now I will not toil with a choice
Wit
Congratulations on your first bread, Krona! And I will share my experience with the bread maker. The most important thing!!! Forget this phrase "..... scraped off with a knife... "!!!!! Only with a silicone spatula! Otherwise, the coating is kyrdyk, and the bucket is worth a thousand.
Further. The dispenser will work for you not when you want, but when the triggering is written in the program. These are 03,06,11, 16 and 23. In other cases (including yours), you need to fall asleep with your pens. Have you already noticed that there are no add-ons in program 08? Read page 17 for instructions. I wish you good luck and delicious bread!
irman
Quote: Krona

Hello everyone!
So I chose, chose, and finally bought 2501 yesterday!


Krona, congratulations on the purchase of an assistant, I wish you always good bread.
mowgli
I have a Panasonic 2500, in rye bread the roof falls all the time, and the last time it turned out not even, but with some kind of stains, the first impression is not baked, but it is baked perfectly, and practically does not rise
marinastom
Quote: Krona

my priority is rye bread, I already want to try a lot.
First of all, Easter cake, since the stove appeared so on time. So thanks for the advice, otherwise I opened a bunch of themes with Easter cakes, puzzled over which recipe to choose and dreamed of someone pointing a finger at the thread. Now I will not toil with a choice
And after Easter cake, be sure to this wonderful bread!
PS. and congratulations from me on a great purchase!
musyena
Greetings to all members of the forum! Thanks for so many helpful tips and recipes. The dream has come true, now I am the owner of the miracle 2502. Yesterday, out of fear, I first made a dough for curd cheese, using dumplings - I don’t understand how I used to live without such an assistant.Then she baked bread according to the main recipe, divinely delicious. Tomorrow I'll try Rina's wheat-rye. And what will happen next, oh goodbye figure.
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
Hooray, bought a Panasonic bread maker! First impressions and reviews
Wit
Congratulations on a very useful purchase and excellent bread. musyena! Good luck in baking! And nothing will happen to your figure. I'll give you a few links. I think they will delight you. And remember: they get fat not from bread, but from what is smeared on it and whether it is applied! Well, it’s not worth eating bread every day.
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TV-lad
before we for two once in two days bought a loaf of bread "Podolsky", 650 grams. Now I bake the main bread every three days, a small loaf. Occasionally I make myself some sweet things with raisins. So from the acquisition of HP, the diet has not changed much. At first, of course, I wanted to try all the modes, redo all the recipes, but I decided to stretch the pleasure
After several months, I can say that after the appearance of HP, we have never bought bread. And somehow I was leaving on a business trip, my husband: "do I really have to eat store bread ?!" In general, I'm happy
Rina
My husband works in another city, comes home for the weekend. He always takes home bread with him. Moreover, he often says "This time, only one loaf - I have left since last week." This indicates that the bread does not spoil. And today I threw out the store bread that I bought from that city three days ago - it went bad. And I eat less homemade bread than I used to buy it - homemade bread is somehow satiated faster, it is good both hunger and appetite. So, if you do not get carried away with bread with all sorts of additives such as fried onions and baked goods, then you will not have to be afraid for your figure.
TV-lad, As I see your avatar, I want to ask everything about Giant Schnauzers, and then I remember and look closely - you have Dobermans.
Elena 65
Quote: Rina

............ And I eat less homemade bread than I used to buy it - homemade bread is somehow satiated faster, it is good both hunger and appetite. So, if you do not get carried away with bread with all sorts of additives such as fried onions and baked goods, then you will not have to be afraid for your figure.
I agree to all 100, and the most interesting thing is that they stopped buying cheese and sausage for a sandwich. Bread is self-sufficient. I really like just butter and honey for breakfast.
musyena
At the expense of "goodbye figure" apparently I got excited. For several days of owning this wonderful helper, they baked bread twice a day, but it was immediately distributed to children, relatives and girlfriends. So you didn’t suffer from overeating, you really get saturated with it faster. It cannot be compared with purchased bread. My husband was against buying a bread maker (where to put it, why do you need to stand in the kitchen, it's easier to buy it in the store, I'll eat the scourge bags), after trying the store's bread he no longer wants.
Lyuba 1955
After I killed my 4-year-old Mulichka (the cakes were kneading, the motor burned out) and cried, I read the forum for a long, long time and decided to join you, oh, and the torment with this choice, I tell you, girls and boys, ended up ordering today Panasonic 2501 and the motor to the old assistant On Thursday or Friday I will be with a new stove Here, I boasted
Elena 65
Quote: Lyuba1955

After I killed my 4-year-old Mulichka (the cakes were kneading, the motor burned out) and cried, I read the forum for a long, long time and decided to join you, oh, and the torment with this choice, I tell you, girls and boys, ended up ordering today Panasonic 2501 and the motor to the old assistant On Thursday or Friday I will be with a new stove Here, I boasted
Muli and Panas have the most beautiful breads. I chose Panas, and I almost do not regret it. I hope there will be no regrets.
Vilapo
Quote: Lyuba1955

After I killed my 4-year-old Mulichka (the cakes were kneading, the motor burned out) and cried, I read the forum for a long, long time and decided to join you, oh, and the torment with this choice, I tell you, girls and boys, ended up ordering today Panasonic 2501 and the motor to the old assistant On Thursday or Friday I will be with a new stove Here, I boasted
Well done, good choice
Lyuba 1955
Oh, and as I hope I thought at first Kenwood 450 - the round bucket just struck me, and then I decided that I would just put the mold if I needed to bake the paste.
Girls, thanks for the support, I know that you can't rejoice ahead of time ..., in short, I can hardly restrain myself
Elena 65
Quote: Lyuba1955

Oh, and as I hope I thought at first Kenwood 450 - the round bucket just struck me, and then I decided that I would just put the form if I needed to bake the paste.
Girls, thank you for your support, I know that you can't rejoice ahead of time ..., in short, I can hardly restrain myself

The round shape is good only for Easter (it itself baked in the oven because of the shape and quantity), but for the bread it is more convenient for cutting rectangular. She refused Muli and Kenwood, each brand had its own "shortcomings", but Panas arranged for all indicators.
Giraffe
And I picked up a suitable saucepan and baked a round cake in a Panasonic.
Elena 65
Quote: giraffe

And I picked up a suitable saucepan and baked a round cake in a Panasonic.
One Easter cake will take 4 hours, two Easter cake 8 hours plus the cooling time. And I need 11 pcs. at least, that's why the very idea of ​​baking cakes in a bread maker did not suit me at all. But bread is a delight as easy and convenient. I am very pleased with the purchase (now I'm baking my daughter, my son-in-law will drop by soon), and tasty and healthy.
Rina
In past years I used Panasonic as a kneader for Easter. It was easier that way.

And according to the young man, I can say that in a round form the dough is kneaded worse. I don’t know how in Kenwoods, etc., but in my case it’s obviously worse - the bun is just spinning on the mixer, there’s nothing to beat about.
Lyuba 1955
So I used it as a kneader and also baked into gas. oven, but, after all, you can put a "lazy" cake in the HP, and bake in the oven in parallel. I both daughters have HP and we do not exchange pasochki, but only pieces, try, bake according to the same recipe, and the result is different for everyone, I mean that it would be nice to have a round bucket, and the price of a Panasonic bucket is stunned!

Well, we will not buy, since it kneads badly in a round and expensive
Lyuba 1955
Well, here ... We brought our stove by self-pickup, I was at work for another half day - pure torment I rushed home and until I delved into the recipes from the instructions, put "Bread Balls" from the recipes for moulinex I was amazed at the quiet work of Panas, mulka straight tractor in comparison, but I thought it was normal. In general, while I'm very happy
Rina
Lyuba 1955, and then you will be like Matroskin from the cartoon "I won't give my Murrka to anyone!"
Lyuba 1955
Oh, Irina, I already baked a sweet bun, there were no raisins, I cut the prunes, it turned out so yummy, my husband, like he hadn't eaten a roll of hp before, immediately began to cut a hot one, the roof of the roll was cracked, of course, next time I'll put it on 5 o'clock, today I wanted to go faster Husband laughs, we have two stoves like the comedians of "Rabbits" have a scene "Tractor" - "Oce you hear, sho the tractor is working" - this is our mulychka and a quiet Panas, even too much, I would say, I did not hear the signal about the end of work in the room
Rina
I have a Panas 255, so when the dishwasher or the washing machine is working, I do not always hear that the stove has begun to knead, being a meter away!
Erhan
You already write whether the bread from Panasonic is really much tastier. You now have the ability to compare. And then I have Moulinex on its last legs, and I'm going to buy a new stove, but we don't have Panasonic. So I'm thinking - is it worth it to get Panas with difficulty somewhere, or to buy myself Moulinex calmly
Erhan
Quote: Rina

I have a Panas 255, so when the dishwasher or washing machine is working, I do not always hear that the stove has begun to knead, being a meter away!
And when mixing, I can not hear the audiobook from the headphones
Lyuba 1955
Erhan, I have not yet baked bread in Panas, only today we bought it, but it seems to me. the same turned out, but, again, but, I baked on the main mode, if I put on a 5-hour program, I think that the bun would be more magnificent and higher later, the mullet stirrer always remained in the bread, always, maybe this I have only? I really sympathize with you, the choice of the stove is a difficult matter. I suffered myself Now such a choice, my head is spinning! But today I'm for Panasonic! With two hands
lira70
I have both Panas and Moulinex, the one with baguettes
Yes, bread is better in Panas. it is more airy.
In mulika, I mainly knead the dough, since there you can have 800g of flour and in Panas 600g the maximum, which is too little for buns.
Lagri
Quote: Erhan

You already write whether the bread from Panasonic is really much tastier. You now have the ability to compare. And then I have Moulinex on its last legs, and I'm going to buy a new stove, but we don't have Panasonic. So I'm thinking - is it worth it to get Panas with difficulty somewhere, or to buy myself Moulinex calmly
I also have Moulinex 5024 (which is with baguettes) and Panasonic 2502. I can say for sure that Panasonic's bread is better and tastier. Moulinex bakes with a thick crust, I now have it as a kneader and distribute the dough. And Panasonic bakes and it is excellent, the crust is thin, the bread is super, I trust him! I love my mulka, but Panasonic is indisputably in the first place.
marinastom
Quote: Lagri

I have both Moulinex 5024 (which is with baguettes) and Panasonic 2502. I can say for sure that Panasonic's bread is better and tastier. Moulinex bakes with a thick crust, I now have it as a kneader and distribute the dough. And Panasonic bakes and it is excellent, the crust is thin, the bread is super, I trust him! I love my mulka, but Panasonic is indisputably in the first place.
Masha, we are sisters again! The only difference is that I gave Mulya to a large family, where she also works LOUDLY as a dough mixer. And Panasik is my clever little sweetheart!
PS. My new mistress Muli, coming to me, said: how quietly she kneads!
Erhan
I know that Panasonic is better, and if we sold it, I wouldn't even think about it. But I have to bring it from another country by plane. Also, I will not be able to contact the service or buy a bucket if necessary. So I think, IS Bread from Panasonic SO much better to go to all these inconveniences? In addition, everyone loves my thick crispy crust and everyone is happy with the taste of the bread.
lira70
Erhanthere are 2 options: buy a mule and make the dough there, mold and bake in the oven, or maybe you will like the bread. Or ask someone to bring with them on vacation if someone goes
Erhan
Svetlana, we are satisfied with the taste of the bread. And my son and I spend at least 2 months in Russia every year. So I can bring it myself. It's just that the bread maker is big for hand luggage, and you can't check it in either. And customs rules are getting stricter every year. So I wonder if it's worth the candle.
lira70
Well, if you take it out of the box and into the chumadan, will it go into the luggage? will pass through the transmission?
Well, well .. well, if you really want to, but no .. but what other than a mulik do you have?
Marusya
Quote: lira70

Well, if you take it out of the box and into the chumadan, will it go into the luggage? will pass through the transmission?
Well, well .. well, if you really want to, but no .. but what other than a mulik do you have?

And what can you get at the exit? you know how to throw suitcases ...
Lagri
Quote: marinastom

Masha, we are sisters again! The only difference is that I gave Mulya to a large family, where she also works LOUDLY as a dough mixer. And Panasik is my clever little sweetheart!
PS. My new mistress Muli, coming to me, said: how quietly she kneads!
And my Mulechka with disabilities let her work for at least a hundred years, if only she works. She kneads really, loudly! I was so worried with her darling that if a new one was offered, then I would definitely refuse. Even a new bucket for Mulka for 2000r. and then "flowed" (something with an oil seal). And Panasonic is just - clever !!!
Erhan
You can't take your luggage, even my suitcases and bags don't stand up, break and tear.
And besides Moulinex we have nothing decent, mostly local brands.
lira70
clearly, and murphy richards .. well, who is so. she is?
but in general --- well, let the mulik, the bread may get boring over time, and kneading the dough in it is great! my lid broke off, well, grooves. they are plastic and still everything is normal. The program ends and I leave it for 1.5 hours, it rises and I take it out and do what I wanted there: buns or bread.
I just start laying out the products with yeast and flour, and not with water, as in the instructions.
Lagri
Quote: lira70

I just start laying out the products with yeast and flour, and not with water, as in the instructions.
Is it better that way? What is the difference for you - from flour or from water? Share your experience ...
Erhan
I have been baking in Moulinex for 5 years all the time, I like it, but everything was already worn out and distorted. It won't last long, it will have to buy a new one. And here everyone praises the bread from Panasonic so much that I thought, since I still buy a new stove, so let it be the best.
A migraine Murphy Richards is never here, only boredom.
Lagri, the flour is put down when the bucket starts to leak, which happens to the Moulinex too often.
lira70
When I just bought a mulik, and that was a very long time ago, but a year or two after Panas)))) I, like everyone else, was "perverted" in it
But after a couple of loaves, my men told me, "we don't like bread in mulik, don't bake it anymore."
I also saw the difference in bread.
Then I began to use it as a kneader. And since for a year I got used to the fact that there is yeast and flour in Panas, and then the rest, I could not come to terms with the fact that in a mulik differently, so I began to do as in Panas. And here on the forum someone also advised: if you don't like bread, put the food in a different order.
It's just that when first there is water, and there is flour, then lumps are obtained, and if there is water in flour, everything is ok. Maybe this is my preconceived opinion, but who then advised, it seems like they saw the difference too.
I will NOT say that the bread has become different - no .. but here I am doing this
Rina
Erhan, and some Amazons or Ibeis send goods to Turkey? Maybe look for a seller who would send the purchased equipment? It was a rarity here a few years ago, but now many people use it. Both for small goods and for technology.
Erhan
Rina, they send something, but here no one advises to contact the Turkish customs. There are a lot of restrictions, for example. More than 150 € is not allowed, weight, dimensions are limited. Otherwise such a tax that you don't want a stove either. Even if everything goes well, it is not a fact that the customs will let you through. Once a tourist from Geriania sent a jacket to our address, which she decided to return to the store with the help of her husband, so he was tortured to go to customs and draw up a bunch of documents, and there was also € 200 tax
Elena 65
Quote: Lyuba1955

Well, here ... We brought our stove by self-pickup, I was at work for another half day - pure torment I rushed home and until I delved into the recipes from the instructions, put "Bread Balls" from the recipes for moulinex I was amazed at the quiet work of Panas, mulka straight tractor in comparison, but I thought it was normal. In general, while I'm very happy
The last "big drop" in the refusal of Muli was a video of a working bread machine during kneading, when she heard the noise that she makes during kneading immediately STOPPED TO CHOOSE and ordered Panas.
Lagri
Quote: Erhan

Lagri, the flour is put down when the bucket starts to leak, which happens to the Moulinex too often.
If the bucket starts to leak - this is when the oil seals end? Probably, the dough begins to get dirty with something gray, then you can't use the bucket.
lira70
Well, I don’t know, but my mulka is about 5 years old - the first time I hear about a leak and even a bucket of soap in the PPM
Erhan
You are very lucky. My second bucket fell apart in 5 years. Now these pins are on the cat. agitators are put on and off. But the dough never gets dirty: pardon: I never used soap in PMM.
Lyuba 1955
Today I baked bread, yes, the side crusts, of course, are thinner than in the mulk, the top crust is fried, it was always pale in the mulk, in height, it seemed to me, a little higher in the panas, but Erhan , do not suffer, especially since there is no service and there is a problem with customs, I I used to think that I have a wonderful Mulinex stove and not noisy at all, I was very pleased , I also bought a new bucket, but my old husband repaired it, put the oil seal from the burned-out kettle and fixed the pin somehow.
I have all the relatives of Moulinex, everyone is happy, however, they have not encountered Panasonic, therefore, there is an opportunity - take, of course, Panasonic, no - take from what you can choose

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