Honey: benefits and harms

[Irina Dolars]

Irina Dolars It is definitely difficult to say how much one family gives. It all depends on the strength of the family, weather conditions, that is, whether there are any bribes at all. On average, we take up to 15 kg per family (sometimes more, sometimes less, and sometimes we don’t take anything from some family if there is not enough honey). For food in winter, you also need up to 15 kg per family. But, given that there are 3-4 pumpings (in a good season), and for feeding we use last year's specially left honey (or part of the fresh, not pumped out), then this is normal.

Yes, and more. Never get fooled by the so-called. honey with additives - with royal jelly, pollen or propolis! If necessary, it is better to buy separately the same milk, propolis or pollen and make the necessary mixture yourself at home. Since royal jelly, in order for it to be effective, must be mixed with honey immediately after collection, because after a few hours it will become useless. And in the field it is impossible to do this. It happens that royal jelly is sold in the markets in such a "capsule - like a hard peanut box. If the capsule is completely sealed - neatly cut off, then we can conventionally assume that the nutrients are still preserved."
The article wrote that the best honey is in combs. A very controversial statement. Yes, it is difficult to fake it (unless you specifically feed the bees with sugar syrup), but this honey will also have to be warmed up for consumption! And it is impossible to pick out crystallized honey from there. That is, it will simply have to be chewed, and not everyone likes it. But it is very useful to chew the "zabrus" - the honeycomb caps cut off during pumping out. For colds, tonsillitis, a great effect! All the beneficial substances from honey and wax are yours.

[Pinky]

Girls, I gave a link to this article, because I am ready to subscribe to every word of that beekeeper. I already wrote earlier that in Soviet times my father had a medium-sized apiary, the remnants of it (4-5 families) stood for a long time in the country and my husband looked after her ... Of course, the circle of friends was with the beekeepers. There was literature at home.
Therefore, I am sure that the variety of honey varieties from "my apiary" on the counter is a bluff. Physically, a beekeeper cannot create such a thing, and bees, although domesticated, but not trained! Professionals wander, but over short distances. I personally love buckwheat and chestnut honey - but my father (and our relatives, and the familiar beekeepers) never had this. In the Kuban, apiaries usually work on acacia, herbs, more often sunflower, linden. In that order. Well, we didn't have buckwheat! And you have to chase after the chestnut. However, there is on every counter ... isn't it strange?

Feeding the bees (in winter) with honey is ideal, as my husband did. The remnants of the apiary survived the winter, and the next year my father fed the sugar with syrup - our "remnants" died. But do not flatter yourself, with good care strong families survive - and most "industrial" apiaries are fed with sugar. However, with the current rampant trade, this is still a small sin!
I will also say - there really are varieties of honey that do not crystallize. There is no need to chase this criterion - this is the mistake of buyers, leading to fraudulent sellers.

Girls, thanks for the article

bought honey in a liter transparent bucket for 70 UAH
I feel that it’s not right, but now there are arguments:
too harsh taste
there is a stratification - at the bottom of the type it is thicker, and at the top a layer of liquid is darker
there are no people familiar with reliable honey, so the following question:

can you buy quality honey in the store?

For the article - please! Bad news: yours is definitely not honey! Is it possible to buy in a store? is a question from the area "Is there life on Mars?"
Pinky - low bow - apiary - hard work! Regarding - to warm or not to warm honey - I personally understand the whole production process. I know that in order to completely eliminate this, it is necessary to spill immediately after rolling, and if the volume of work is large and small packaging, this is unrealistic ...
P.S. Personally, in the article I just killed honey with royal jelly - from condensed milk
Sorry for the verbosity.

I also advise: buy propolis! Keep it in the refrigerator in polyethylene and in case of a weakening of immunity, the first signs of viral diseases (FLU, ARVI) - pinch off pill-sized pieces and swallow in the morning (and in case of illness 3 times a day). It is an excellent biostimulant.
This is how my doctor-husband learned from his uncle-beekeeper with 50 years of experience (he’s 95 now! Oh, how - and on his feet, only blind), he has been doing this all his life. Sugar does not eat at all, but only his own honey, the most common - acacia, sunflower and herbs. He did not go anywhere with an apiary and sold honey only to his own. Considering that he has 4 more wounds after the Second World War, we can assume that his apiary afloat and physically and economically kept him all his life.

[is it possible to run into low-quality propolis?]

WONDERFUL PROPOLIS !!!!


Now the question is: is it possible to run into low-quality propolis?
And where is it better to look if not at the beekeeper's?

An excellent video about propolis, it's a pity, they told very little about its areas of application.
You can buy natural propolis only from beekeepers in the markets. On an industrial scale, there is very little of it, except for pharmacology. Only in pharmacies can you buy weakly concentrated propolis tincture solutions - usually 2%. Or at companies that specialize in the production of beekeeping products and, again, purchase components from private beekeepers.

And in the tablets, probably also not 100% propolis?

There is no such thing as perfectly pure propolis - it is impossible to scrape off the glue from the frames and walls of the evidence without capturing some wood particles. I have not met propolis in tablets, but this does not mean that it is not pressed like that - I just have not seen it. When dissolved in alcohol or moonshine, the glue dissolves completely, and all particles settle. During the infusion, you often shake the solution and everything is perfectly cut off.
Probably, every beekeeper packs propolis in his own way - we just roll it into balls. Then, if someone needs it, we weigh the right amount and that's it.

[Pinky]

What a good temka

Pinky , and you yourself insist on propolis in alcohol, I have about 20 grams of propolis, so I want to make an alcohol tincture, but I don't know the proportions, all of a sudden, there will be too much alcohol can tell me pliz

... Only in pharmacies can you buy weakly concentrated propolis tincture solutions - usually 2%.

And even these tinctures work well. For example, here are the areas where it is used in our family:
1) rinsing the mouth with exacerbation of periodontal disease - it helps better than newfangled elixirs, the solution is a few drops into water;
2) pharyngitis (mine) also recedes with the same rinsing;
3) herpes on the lip (suddenly the zovirax is over) - we cauterize it in the first stages with undiluted tincture.
But, actually, we try to make alcohol tincture ourselves. It is stored for years in the refrigerator, and if not in the refrigerator, then in dark glass. We take propolis from our relatives-beekeepers. I don't even know how much it might cost now ...

Masha, please tell me how you make the tincture

[IRR]

either they wrote here, or somewhere else - to pour honey into jars, you need to warm it up - extra heat treatment is not shown to any product. I don’t understand honey, but to say this when buying honey for a seller is to doom yourself to failure in advance, they’ll slip it’s nasty, I’m talking about the market and the bazaar where there is direct communication.

Zhenya! maybe they didn't heat it in your bucket, but like this, when the stratification is not a good sign. They could just boil such honey from sugar. Best case scenario. And put some honey on top. My mom got pierced like that more than once. In general, these honey sellers (resellers) are fake human beings, with rare exceptions.they ruin my faith in all of humanity in general.

IRRprobably it is, but my honey is almost gone, they ate anyway. I have a purchase, I even think about whether it is possible to receive a can of honey by new mail? Trust is a great thing

For the article - please! Bad news: yours is definitely not honey! Is it possible to buy in a store? is a question from the area "Is there life on Mars?"

Macha, we need to survive on Mars too. I'll go to the supermarket and look at the jars ...

I have the same situation - no acquaintances.
But it seems to me that you can't buy normal honey in a store, everything is set on a cash flow with a minimum investment.
Example - there are jars of the same spill, the date is the same, carbon-copy labels - "Honey vid Mikoli Ivanovich" (only I don't remember the herb or acacia, today I'll go look again) - some of the jars are the brightest honey, and the other part - dark as buckwheat

julifera, thanks, maybe we also have such a name?

[Macha]

I also advise: buy propolis! Keep it in the refrigerator in polyethylene and when the immune system is weakened, the first signs of viral diseases (FLU, ARVI) - pinch off pill-sized pieces and swallow in the morning (and in case of illness 3 times a day). It is an excellent biostimulant.

Macha, thanks for the interesting message!
Just clarify about the size of the tablet, for example, there is a very big difference between validol and valerian tablets.
Have you heard anything about oncology treatment with propolis?

[Slastena]

Slastena Most often they make 10% propolis tincture - 10 grams of propolis per 1 liter of alcohol (moonshine). Am I correct in proportion? But personally, since we have our own propolis, I make it much stronger. I take 30 grams and pour 0.5 liters of alcohol. If there are scales, there are no problems with weighing, and by eye it is simply possible. For two weeks you insist in a dark cabinet, not necessarily in a dark bottle, but always in the dark (by the way, it is not at all necessary to store in a chiller, it’s alcohol. Shake once a day to dissolve better. You don’t need to filter. Depending on the purpose, then use half a teaspoon or 8-10 drops per tablespoon of water or milk.
The tincture is very strong, so small doses are needed. If desired, it will be possible to add more alcohol here later, there will simply be a less concentrated solution.
On the basis of the evaporated solution and wax, they make a wonderful ointment for joint pains, they really rinse their teeth with pains, fluxes. Once upon a time, I rinsed out follicular sore throat with a propolis rinse for a five-year-old son.
Oh, there are so many things you can do! A fabulously useful thing

Sens It's a pity, but in oncology as a medicine, propolis, as far as I know (although I might not know it simply, but I did not come across such data) is not used. At least due to the fact that it is still not a chemical medicine, but a strong immune stimulant, like honey itself, however. Here's how a companion tool is probably worth using. Treat the same solution of propolis stomach ulcers, gastritis, recommended for liver diseases.

[Pinky]

Pinky tremendous thanks for the recipe: rose: there is alcohol, we will insist propolis and more, I understood correctly propolis should dissolve

[Slastena]

Slastena Yes, the glue itself will dissolve in two weeks, but all the impurities will settle to the bottom. This is normal and it should be. Do not filter anything, and keep the bottle tightly rolled up so that the alcohol does not evaporate. You can strain if you are going to make an ointment, in which case the infusion is evaporated in a water bath to a creamy state and mixed with the rest of the components.

[Slastena]

Slastena Most often they make 10% propolis tincture - 10 grams of propolis per 1 liter of alcohol (moonshine). Am I correct in proportion?

this is just under 1% tincture (10: 1000).

10% is 1/10 of the resulting mass, i.e. 10 grams of something + 90 grams of base.

[Pinky,]

Pinky, If the strength of moonshine ranges from 40 to 90 degrees, then you can use vodka in the absence of the first?

[Irina Dolars]

Irina Dolars Since vodka is to some extent still an aqueous solution of alcohol (relatively speaking, or maybe not), it is preferable to use alcohol after all - it will be better to extract the glue into the infusion. Vodka will not give the same dissolving effect as alcohol. And we made our own moonshine for a long time and the fortress was 68 *. That is, the stronger the solvent, the richer the solution.

Rina I've always had problems with proportions and percentages. But in relation to propolis, I am guided by the fact that strong can always be diluted to the desired consistency. But from the weak to do what is sometimes required, it is impossible. Therefore, deciding the percentage of the components is a personal matter, in the case when exact proportions are very important.
Honestly, having propolis in the house all the time, I usually do everything by sight - as a rule, a liter of alcohol is not at home, so I fill in as much propolis as there is. Most often, 80-100 grams per half liter of alcohol. And the proportion 10: 1000 is usually offered by doctors, I think this is rather weak.
After all, I am not a doctor or even a physician, and am guided only by many years of practical experience and special literature. I can only share advice, but whether to apply it is up to you to decide

[Rina]

Rina I've always had problems with proportions and percentages. But in relation to propolis, I am guided by the fact that strong can always be diluted to the desired consistency. But from the weak to do what is sometimes required, it is impossible. Therefore, deciding the percentage of the components is a personal matter, in the case when exact proportions are very important.
Honestly, having propolis in the house all the time, I usually do everything by sight - as a rule, a liter of alcohol is not at home, so I fill in as much propolis as there is. Most often, 80-100 grams per half liter of alcohol. And the proportion 10: 1000 is usually offered by doctors, I think this is rather weak.

it is correct that strong can be diluted. Simply, if you already indicate the proportions, then it is better to do it so that there are no discrepancies (for example, if the ratio of pressed yeast to dry is indicated as 1: 3, then we get that 1 gram of pressed yeast is equivalent to 3 grams of dry yeast, but this is wrong! And someone may make an incorrect replacement for such a recommendation). Someone reads 10 grams per 1 liter, someone 10%, and this is an order of magnitude difference! If it is not critical with propolis, then with other substances it can be a big problem.

PinkyI'm getting bored

[Rina]

Rina You are absolutely right - you really need to specify the proportions correctly, so I apologize for the confusion. Although for propolis, this is really not critical, except when the proportion really needs to be maintained. For example, in the case of gastric ulcer irrigation through a gastroscope, a 1% solution is actually used. In other cases - when lubricating wounds, applying bandages, internal use for prophylaxis, with pain in the stomach, etc., the solution is still diluted (or not) individually.
Personally, when the flux torments me, I generally put a cotton swab dipped in an undiluted solution on the sore spot. Yes, it strongly cauterizes the mucous membrane, but it also relieves pain much faster. Having superficial gastritis, I make the drinking solution quite strong - 1-2 teaspoons per glass of water (depending on the concentration of the tincture itself). It's also a matter of individual portability.
I am not a lecturer and, God forbid, I don’t teach, I just share my personal experience. And you can successfully read about the methods, methods and fields of application of propolis on the Internet. Personally, as a fan of this remedy, I just want such folk remedies to help everyone who is sick.
By the way, different doctors are rather ambiguous about the use of propolis. More often it is offered by younger doctors, and the old retrogrades in the old-fashioned way prefer not to mess with. However, with honey the same picture.

Girls, thanks for the article

bought honey in a liter transparent bucket for 70 UAH
I feel that it’s not right, but now there are arguments:
too harsh taste
there is a stratification - at the bottom of the type it is thicker, and at the top a layer of liquid is darker
there are no people familiar with reliable honey, so the following question:

can you buy quality honey in the store?

Not by chance at a honey fair. I forgot how it was called. But in Crimea, honey is brought in buckets almost every month. At first I took it, but when it began to wander around in a sealed container and explode ... I stopped taking it. And there was a stratification. In short, I realized that one fake is being driven there now. Now I am suffering where to find good honey. There was a neighbor grandfather, he kept his apiary in the steppe Crimea, but he died. The son is trying to continue now, but so far it is weak.

I have a purchase, I even think about whether it is possible to receive a can of honey by new mail? Trust is a great thing

since there are already three of us suffering like that, let's speculate on the topic:

1. honey by New mail?

since there are three of us who are suffering, already like mines, let's speculate on the topic:

1. honey by New mail?

Well, if I often send wine by New Mail, why can't honey be? The main thing is not a breakable container or pack it conscientiously. My husband packs it so that then the recipients ate unpack it!

[Macha]

Macha, thanks for the interesting message!
Just clarify about the size of the tablet, for example, there is a very large difference between validol and valerian tablets.
Have you heard anything about oncology treatment with propolis?

The size of a pea will probably be just right .... Only if it is acute respiratory infections, flu, this alone will not be enough. We add other means in the first two days of a viral disease - diaphoretic (all sorts of homemade) teas, + mummy in tablets + succinic acid + vitamin C + sleep in woolen socks, and the like. And most importantly - drink-drink-drink .... But all these "grandmother's methods" have their own traditions in families, and I just listed it as an example ...

Regarding oncology, already Pinky answered, I agree with this position. Biostimulants are limited for all neoplasms, and if used, then with caution.
The only thing, I remember, in Soviet times in Bulgaria, medical treatment was very fundamentally researched. We had books, there were recipes, treatment regimens not only with honey, but also with its derivatives. I advise you to look for such books - I am now very far from them and I cannot suggest their authors, unfortunately ...

[Girls]

I apologize in advance if a similar question has already been asked, I did not find ...

Girls and boys, who will tell you, are there any restrictions on the amount of honey eaten per day?

Somewhere I read for a long time that it seems like no more than 1 g. honey per 1 kg. my own body weight ... If this is really so, then why do I weigh so little ...

[Girls]

Girls and boys, who will tell you, are there any restrictions on the amount of honey eaten per day?

As soon as the priest sticks together, becomes covered with spots and begins to itch and itch, then that's definitely enough
Someone calmly eats honey, but someone has enough of a teaspoon.

For example, I hate sweet honey to taste, only with a sour taste and a couple of spoons

Info from the Internet:

HONEY CONSUMPTION RATE

With the benefit of the body, using honey as a food or dietary substance, an adult can eat it per day for 100-150 g in several doses. So that honey is better absorbed. it should be taken 1.5-2 hours before meals or 3 hours after meals. The most useful is the use of honey with warm boiled water, tea or milk, although a small amount (2 - 3 tsp) can be taken together with carbohydrate food. It is better to decide the question of the amount and methods of using honey individually, which will be discussed further.

It is better to give honey to children together with other food, for example, with porridge, fruit or tea. In this form, honey is better absorbed. Children should not be given too much honey, otherwise the child may develop an aversion to him later.For a child, 1-2 teaspoons of honey a day is enough.

Peace be with you bakers!

to all who are near the HONEY FAIR IN KOLOMENSKOYE OPENED
250 points of sale besides honey, and all sorts of propolis and mead
the range of prices is also decent
open from 9 to 19 pavilion warm

HONEY FAIR IN KOLOMENSKOYE OPENED

But I'm afraid to buy honey at fairs ... I'm afraid to be deceived ... in relation to honey, especially ... well, I don't know how to distinguish real honey from spoiled honey ... and trying for me is also not an option ...

If only I could learn the quality of honey without leaving the cash register, then I could go to the fair ...

Peace be with you bakers!

Krosh--

I already wrote somewhere that my wife is working in KVD \ zavlab \ so we took honey samples from the VVC from 10-8 to the trash, but at the fair \ that year in Tsaritsyno \ out of 12 only 2 unsuccessful \ and that showed that it is mixed with the cheaper \
or shake them at fairs not childishly, or something else but more order

If only I could learn the quality of honey without leaving the cash register, then I could go to the fair ...

Take a chemical pencil with you to the market. Then honey for testing for a test spoon from the seller, go to the cubbyhole behind the tent, and try the chemical honey. pencil - if the probe turns blue-green, then spoiled, carry it under the nose of the seller or go boldly

Nowadays, almost all honey is already candied or semi-candied - it depends on the type of honey. Acacia honey will remain semi-viscous, and some more.

And I determine the quality of honey by taste, well, you can immediately see it by its consistency and taste, and smell

[Crochet]

Crochet, you can read some tips here:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=146366.0

Krosh, if you are not sure, buy crystallized honey.

Krosh, if you are not sure, buy crystallized honey.

Here is such honey, just most often spoiled, it is diluted with sugar syrup, it quickly crystallizes

[Krosh,]

Krosh, in short ... an integrated approach is needed

An integrated approach is needed

I already got it ...

And I determine the quality of honey by taste, well, you can immediately see it by its consistency and taste, and smell

I envy with white envy and applaud, I don't know how ...

Peace be with you bakers!

Krosh - - I don't know how

well, I don’t believe it - well, never
how many people thanked you for the recipes (y) how many smart culinary tips did you get
you simply have to determine the quality of honey by sight

[Crochet]

Crochet, we have been going to such fairs with our friends for many years. Laboratories are always there (specially equipped cars), if in doubt, you can come up and talk with employees. In my opinion, there is almost no bad honey there. And over the years we already know many beekeepers by sight and by surname. Mead is given to taste

Thanks for the info.
Otherwise, my son and I cannot understand: what is the trick

[Yu]

Here is such honey, just most often spoiled, it is diluted with sugar syrup, it quickly crystallizes

The encyclopedia of Brockhaus and Efron, published more than 100 years ago, lists about three dozen methods of falsifying honey that were widespread in (then) Russia. And even the typical prices for it (then) are given, depending on the type of counterfeit.
I don’t think that over the past century, the technology of this business has stood still.

I myself spent my childhood on honey. At first we had four hives, then for a long time already two. Later, as the international a / p "Sheremetyevo-2" was launched in 1967, all the beekeepers from similar sites soon had to curtail their business. The bees stopped sitting on the flowers - I watched with my own eyes.

So he ate little of him and since then it seems like there are not so many mountains for himYu... Which, in fact, is the only consolation.

Almost all the honey that goes on sale is not worth buying. Even if we take it on faith that he was not body-fed, in any case, the bees were fed sugar. Otherwise, it is not at all profitable to sell honey for the prices that honey costs on average.

I totally disagree. and it's a shame for real beekeepers.

I support. beekeepers are obsessed people, unprofitable production will not stop them. for them it is a way of life. and for many it is an honor to sell a natural pure product. even at a loss

the husband said that he would be engaged in bees even if there was a loss from them

Give bow to your husband

[Rarerka, Irina Dolars]

Rarerka, Irina Dolars thanks for the support of the beekeepers. The husband in the apiary grew up almost carrying a birth. He plants linden trees all around, writes out all sorts of roots and seeds of honey plants and sows in the fields. In general, the truth is obsessed.

I've been taking honey from two people for a year. The honey is excellent. So there are honest people.
There was one year they had little honey, they immediately said that they would sell it for a little bit to the regulars, but that would be slipped into a fufel, this was not the case.

[for yourself]

I agree about the unprofitability

About this and speech. Therefore, I prefer to take honey from people who are engaged in this business. for yourself, not for sale.

Bees are fed sugar only in autumn

Those who keep an apiary for themselves never feed the bees with sugar.