Summer
Little dear, tell me how it is - lemon honey? I feel right now, mine is mine
Irgata
Quote: gawala
And I need it, to know the weight-volume?
thank god someone has no financial problems
Ipatiya
It turns out that my daughter just bought cream honey. I have an allergy to ordinary honey, but I calmly eat the cream. Very delicate and pleasant taste!
gawala
Quote: Irsha
thank god someone has no financial problems
7 euros for 500gr .. we do not impoverish for sure ...
Irgata
Quote: Summer
lemon honey
While Kroshi is gone, I’ll say my lemon honey is simple, I cut the lemons thinly (conveniently with a burner, if we do not a little) or in slices or slices, I put half a liter in a jar, honey on top, even flowing, even crystallized, after a while honey takes juice from lemons, becomes liquid, the more lemons, the thinner. The longer lemons sit in honey, the drier they become. If there is a desire and teeth, they are as good as candied fruits. I mostly use then these lemon peels - oh, tasteful - in jam or compotes for flavor.
Irgata
Quote: gawala
500gr
and where weight you know .... well, if by weight = one and a half thousand liter jar
gawala
Quote: Irsha
how do you know the weight ..
The label says -500g ...
gawala
Quote: Irsha
well, if by weight = one and a half thousand liter jar
This does not mean anything to me .. I don’t know how much it costs in Russia, is it expensive or cheap ...
Summer
Irsha, thanks for the advice ! can you scroll a lemon in a blender?
Irgata
Quote: Summer
and the lemon in the blender can be scrolled
Once upon a time, to speed up the process, I wanted to grind lemons in a combine - if you cut large, not everything is ground, if you cut it smaller, then you can skip it with a burner or shredder in the same combine, but here it is necessary that the lemons fresh were, so that the skin does not dry out, otherwise I often take a lot of discounted prices, but they come with dried skin, these are only by hand.
Irgata
Quote: Deva
Well, in any case, the beekeeper says so from whom I take it.

Orange honey (citrus honey) - honey produced by bees from the nectar of flowers of various citrus plants, mainly tangerine, orange, lemon. It is considered a very exotic type of honey. It is mined mainly in Abkhazia, Adjara, Georgia.

Orange honey has a transparent or light orange color, it has a pleasant citrus aroma and delicate taste. After, how does honey crystallize it turns light yellow.


Due to its unique composition, orange honey has a wide range of beneficial properties. It is recommended to be taken by pregnant women (honey contains a lot of copper, magnesium, iron, necessary for the proper development of the child) and children - this type of honey, as a rule, does not cause allergies, but children should be given no more than 1/4 teaspoon. An adult serving should not exceed one and a half teaspoons per day. This honey contains many useful substances, micro- and macroelements, vitamins, enzymes, carbohydrates, amino acids.

Orange honey is effective in treating anemia, gastrointestinal diseases, exhaustion, and indigestion. It has a tonic, restorative, preventive effect.

Citrus honey is effective for colds, coughs, as well as for diseases of the cardiovascular system.

The useful properties of orange honey are so diverse that it helps with a variety of diseases, such as dropsy, jaundice, tuberculosis, hemorrhoids, rheumatism, sciatica, vitamin deficiency, varicose veins, urolithiasis, gout.

This type of honey has a beneficial effect on the nervous system, for this it is recommended to take 1/2 teaspoon of orange honey with a glass of milk before bedtime.

For children, orange honey is useful for proper metabolism and bowel function. It helps with dystrophy.

It is recommended to store orange honey in a cool, dry place in a glass container.

crystallize all honey, my father-in-law had an encyclopedia on beekeeping back in the 19th century, I read it, by the way, very interesting. for reference article 🔗 Muscovites don't need to whip up honey 🔗 cheaper than unbeaten.
Irgata
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Crochet
Girls, has anyone tried aylantus honey ?!

Yesterday I heard such a name for the first time ...
gawala
Quote: Krosh
has anyone tried aylantus honey?
Probably I tried it .. for a long time and I don't remember any taste or smell .. I have a bio store and there is a lot of all sorts of different honeys .. I didn’t buy anything there ..
Götterbaumhonig in German is called.
Irgata

I stopped buying a lot of honey like this, a liter jar for cream
no apiary or beekeeper, well, figs with him, it's better to cook apple jam and eat your own berries



Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 09:09

Quote: Krosh
aylantus honey
and what is different from any other honey, trees grow in the south, they write that they are wide thickets, so one would hope that this is a relatively monomed
gawala
Quote: Irsha
I stopped buying honey
I am buying .. I hope we bought honey from a private apiary, mountain. began to look where it is .. the address of the apiary is on the label .. Found .. not far about from the place where my husband was in the sanatorium in the spring .. Yes, there the mountains are already beginning .. They did not lie .. mountain. Tasty. .



Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 09:15 AM

Quote: Irsha
it's relatively monomed
Well, if there are hives under the tree, then there will be a monomed ..
I remembered .. My uncle kept bees with us. At first it was necessary for a sick son, for the sake of propolis they started a couple of families, and then he kept his own for pleasure .. There were a couple of families .. And the neighbors had a lot of raspberries, a neighbor grew it for sale, berries .. And when we were pumping honey , then they opened one frame, from there the smell of raspberries .. It was something .. there was such a scent .. it was impossible to convey .. Raspberries .. There was never such honey again ..
Irgata
Quote: gawala
I am buying .. I hope we bought honey from a private apiary, mountain.
maybe you have more honorable people there
we also have all kinds of weather unsuitable for bees, but there is honey, and where do they get it ... and how

Something I was disappointed, it's a pity, of course, we got used to it, for many years I bought 3 three liters per year, a teaspoon in the morning, a teaspoon in the afternoon or evening, for many years they ate that way, well, when never for baking, for lemons - that's this is the most delicious
gawala
Quote: Irsha
maybe you have more honorable people there
Here the control is strict in terms of quality ... And the apiaries are all official .. like the company has its own .. In general, in recent years there has been a struggle for bees, there are fewer of them. They are dying .. They even sell honey flower seeds. Like buy a package and save a bee .. many farmers allocate small pieces of land along the edge of the field and sow such honey flowers ..
Irgata
and in our country, whoever keeps it for himself, he tries, but naturalness is expensive for sale, and you can't sell honey more expensive than anyone else, so the market dictates

my girlfriend bought honey from neighbors, imported, she gave me a jar, and so - the cream did not work out of this honey, whipped, but did not increase in volume almost and did not turn white, only lightened

so, I think, you can also check the qualities of honey by whipping
gawala
Quote: Irsha
quality of honey
I have a friend here, so she says that honey is bad here, all pasteurized .. To my question, how she defines its pasteurization, found it difficult to answer. But she firmly stands her ground .. I advised her then to buy from private traders, there are a lot of them in the district ..
Irgata
Quote: gawala
all pasteurized ..
shop? liquid then it, huh?

gawala
Quote: Irsha
shop? liquid then it, right?
Supermarkets sell it, but it is also all different, there is one that is candied, right on the shelf, you see, it’s already candied .. There is also a cream .. in general for every taste .. And acacia honey is not candied at all, a friend of this and I didn't even know ... It's hard for me to say what she meant ... I usually never argue. It is impossible to convince, but I am not a fan of proving something "foaming at the mouth" .. you still cannot prove it ..
Albina
Wonderful temka, I subscribe.

If you want a MEDICAL effect - in the morning, on an empty stomach, without interruption: the first 15 days, 1 tsp. dissolve honey without drinking - cleans the lymph; the next 15 days 1 tsp. half a glass of water (warm or cold - your body will tell you, cleanses the organs of the chest; for the next 15 days 1 tsp. in a glass of water - cleans all organs below your navel 8-)
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gawala
Quote: Albina
HEALING effect
And it seems to me that you can't eat honey, but the effect will be both curative and curative. he is Honey!
Irgata
I read in the encyclopedia (with my father-in-law) that a lot of it is not needed for medical purposes, a couple of spoons a day is quite normal

it was our grandfathers who ate honey instead of sugar, sugar was not often found in distant villages, and it seemed like honey was not bought

my father-in-law kept several hives in the garden, honey was always on the table as the main sweet

somehow my mother-in-law gave me a 3-liter jar of honeydew honey, the summer was rainy, the bees didn’t take much from the flowers, that’s really cool baking from him - it’s more sour than normal honey, I haven’t made such gorgeous honeymen since then, and it's a pity normal honey is often shoved into the dough

gawala
Quote: Irsha
honeydew honey,
yeah, I know it's sour than normal honey, but I've never tried it ..
In general, if they want to get good honey, they need to take out the bees, to buckwheat (if there is one of course now), to herbs. In our family, my uncle studied and my mother's uncle. so they together every summer took out bees to buckwheat, to meadow grasses, to rape .. In general, everything was according to the season .. We had two hives, but my mother's uncle had heels, if not more .. honey has always been. selling surplus ...
MariV
gawala, Götterbaumhonig- Is Götterbaum a Chinese ash or a Himalayan cedar? Blooms profusely in spring?
Irgata
Quote: gawala
but never tried ..
but they don't eat it, it tastes sharp, it is more for baking and is allowed

and dark as buckwheat, only does not thicken into hardness
gawala
Quote: MariV
Is Götterbaum Chinese Ash or Himalayan Cedar?
Ailant the highest (lat.Ailánthus altíssima) - a tree; species of the genus Aylant of the Simarubov family

The name comes from ailanto, which in one of the Indonesian dialects means “god tree

Added on Tuesday 22 Nov 2016 02:21 PM

Quote: Irsha
and they don't eat it,
Well, I know that .. I just say that I have never tried it .. You can try it ...
MariV
gawala, Galina, I realized, like an ash tree. I have never seen how the ash blossoms.
gawala
Quote: MariV
I have never seen how the ash blossoms.
I think I saw something somewhere .. I looked at the photo on purpose .. I saw it for sure ..
"under an oak tree, under an ash tree .." Maybe I saw it in my forest? Th only is not planted there ...
Crochet
Quote: gawala
I guess I tried it for a long time and I don't remember any taste or smell ..

It was necessary to ...

Quote: Irsha
and how is it different from any other honey

If only I knew ...

Just an outlandish name attracted attention, I have never met such exoticism here ...

Quote: Irsha
something i'm disappointed

By the way, I too ...

You buy, it looks like honey to your taste, and then go and figure out whether that honey is correct or it is not honey at all ...
gawala
Quote: Krosh
there, go and figure out whether that honey is correct or not honey at all
Take an ink pencil .. and shove it into the honey or on the hand or on the saucer a drop and devils in a drop of this line. If a blue-violet trace remains, then it is not honey. and the surrogate ... and only smells of honey ..
Irgata
Honey: benefits and harms

Ailant the highest (or Chinese ash) picturesquely weed on the streets of Alushta
Irgata
horror .. warm, light, a bunch of plants, why not start an apiary ... honey on the knee extracted
Ikra
Quote: Irsha
honey on the knee extracted
Recently, I watched a plot about the manufacture of that very cheap palm oil. There is technogolgia - wow ... In the sense of the horror is unsanitary. At least these hands give the impression of being relatively clean. But oil is exactly what is exported, and I can even guess where.
That movie about palm oil, I would show on all TV channels in prime time every day. With a ghostly hope, about suddenly some of the manufacturers will feel ashamed, and the rest - disgusted.
Nonsense
People! Tell me, pliz, what topic to contact. I bought a three-liter jar of flower honey for a neighbor from an apiary in the village. It seems that everyone is buying and everyone is happy. I don't understand honey and don't use it. There was a transparent substance in the jar below. Is this normal? Or is it a fake? I don't want to let my girlfriend down. And I myself do not want to get paid.
Irina Dolars
Nata, didn't you mix it up? The bottom may be settled, and the top is transparent

Honey: benefits and harms




And further...
A liter of real honey cannot weigh less than 1350-1400 g.
If it delaminates, there may be several reasons:
- too early collection;
- overheating of honey when filling containers;
- falsification to increase the volume;
- mixing different varieties;
- natural processes.

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If honey is collected ahead of time, when the combs are not completely filled, then it will contain too much water, since the bees do not have time to remove excess moisture. Such a product must be consumed as soon as possible, since during long-term storage it will lose its useful qualities.

And after a while it can even ferment and become unusable. The only way to keep such honey for a long time is to store it at a temperature of 5 to 10 degrees. It may continue to exfoliate but will not ferment.

Most species delaminate after excessive heating. Already at 35 degrees, processes can begin that lead to lamination, and when heated to 40, honey loses its useful qualities. This means that even if the product was simply transported on a hot day, it could succumb to flaking.

Of course, if you see that honey on the counter has stratified, then this may be due to an artificial increase in the volume of the product. The addition of water, sugar syrup, starch and other substances causes it to become non-uniform and split in two.

What could be the reason for this process?

In fact, even the highest quality product will naturally exfoliate. But in most varieties, this process is so slow that they do not have time to notice it. It should be noted that stratification does not affect the amount of nutrients.

Any honey contains glucose and fructose. At the same time, glucose has the ability to form crystals, which is why honey hardens and changes color for several months after collection. Fructose does not have this ability, it always remains in a liquid state. Therefore, the tendency to crystallize and stratify directly depends on the ratio in the composition of these two components.

Typically, fructose is much less and it is distributed among the crystals without breaking the uniformity. But if their number is approximately the same, then glucose gradually settles, and fructose rises. This creates two layers. The higher the storage temperature, the faster this process will take place, so it is recommended to store honey in a cool place.

There are times when even beekeepers cannot understand why their honey exfoliates. Even with the correct content, uniformity can be compromised if different varieties or products with different harvest times are mixed during harvest. In this case, useful qualities are not lost, but such honey is unlikely to be sold.

Thanks to such a feature, how not to confuse a product with a fake?

Layering can help not only identify a fake, but also recognize a quality product. The usual delamination during long-term storage is a sign of natural honey. There is no change in smell or taste.
When using a bulking agent or excessive moisture, fermentation begins and taste changes.

If you see that the sold honey has stratified even a little, then pay attention to the lid of the jar. If it is swollen, then fermentation occurs in such a product.Poor quality is also indicated by a sour smell and taste and the formation of foam on the surface. Take a close look at the product being offered and, if possible, find one responsible seller you can trust. So you can provide yourself with a really high-quality and useful beekeeping product!

Nonsense
Ira, thanks for the quick response.
It is at the bottom three centimeters of a transparent substance. And the top is opaque, light in color. They said that later the honey would turn green.
Tomorrow I'll try to take a picture and insert a picture (if possible).
dopleta
At the request of Natasha-Nonsense, who suffers from an unstable connection in the village (oh, how fun it was), here is a photo of her "dubious" honey:
Honey: benefits and harms
Irina Dolars
I can only assume that last year's honey was dissolved and added for volume
If it is well warmed up, then it no longer crystallizes.
When sugar crystals appear, the honey begins to sugar. These same crystals sink down to the bottom of the dish, since they are much heavier than other particles. That is why crystallization starts from the bottomgradually reaching the top edge.
What is there below that prevents the settled honey from sinking?
Nonsense
But something is not right, apparently. I opened the lid, and up there it was like milk froth, completely white.
Lorik, thanks for your help. Further grumpily: could write "from the unstable Internet."
Fotina
And it seems to me that honey may be fresh, but fermented.
Nonsense
It seemed to be only pumped yesterday. Can it really ferment so fast?
Kalyusya
Nonsense, Natasha, why not ask the vendors themselves? Present to the bank.
And what can turn green there? straight puzzled already.
Waist
Quote: Nonsense
I opened the lid, and up there it was like milk froth, completely white.
I don't know the mechanism for pumping out honey. But logically, what is white and did not sink to the bottom may be air / bubbles, and the foam is proof of this. And the fact that it is white, and the egg yolks turn white when beaten.
Quote: Fotina
And it seems to me that honey may be fresh, but fermented.
If honey is not fresh, then like everything stale it should smell bad and taste bad.

Ikra
Yes .. Interesting story, I will follow the development of events. I'll drag the picture to another forum, where there are people containing bees, maybe they can tell you?
Nonsense
I asked a neighbor. They used to have hives when her father was alive. She told me it was okay. Honey was poured, shaken up, and now this air rises. Indeed, the transparent substance from below in the jar increases. White foam on top (according to a neighbor) is normal. Besides, this year the weather was not favorable for the bees. In short, she told me not to twitch. And if anything, she will gladly buy this can from me. She also said that when linden honey is poured, there is a big white "hat" there. And this is floral honey, you cannot understand by the smell what prevails. I will watch. She promised that it would all be transparent, the color would change slightly, and there would be foam on top.
Girls, I will definitely write what will happen next.
Thanks to everyone who responded!

Ikra
Here's what a friend who has his own apiary replied to me on another forum:
“Usually honey settles after distillation. And the buyer does not see this 'foam'. But it is this 'foam' that is the most 'tsimus'. This is a honey-pepper mixture. sieve, but a small amount of bee bread (the remnants of the zabrus remain on the sieve and are also very appreciated) slips, for this they defend it. Then they collect the "foam" and eat it themselves, it is terribly useful and it is not enough. I do not defend and immediately pour it into cans. My friends know this "chip" with "foam" and try to take where the "foam" is more. As for the greening of honey, I heard about this, but I did not have to personally see it, it depends on the honey plant from which there was a bribe.

The forecasts for honey this year are not bright.

In the above photo, the layering is really strange. usually "foam" is no more than 2-3 cm. This year summer is not quite usual, so I will drive honey in early September (depending on the weather). "






I think honey is okay, but it was downloaded a bit early, it can be a little thin. Or maybe it's just summer like that. So don't worry. But keeping in mind the high humidity, keep an eye on honey during storage so that it does not ferment.
Iri55
Quote: Ikra
But keeping in mind the high humidity, keep an eye on honey during storage so that it does not ferment.
A week ago, we bought honey at the apiary. Can it really ferment? And then what to do? It is necessary to look for the forum of beekeepers.

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