proshka
I had Brown. Purchased about six years ago, but not used often. And then she began to harvest squash caviar and came to an end. It works, but as soon as you put something into the grinder, it stops spinning. I made caviar with her foot, of course. The leg also does not twist if dipped into the product. I took it to the service, they said that the Browns have a certain peculiarity - they are cast and non-separable, and that grease gets somewhere and scrolling is obtained. It cannot be repaired, and this is far from the first case for the master with the Browns, the problem is precisely in the ingress of grease. I don't know ... I went and bought Moulinex DD85530, the one with a 700 W puree nozzle. It seems nothing like that, though I would like a bigger cup. My Brown liked the equipment - two grinders, large and small, a leg, a whisk, an ice pick (I never even used it), a glass. Sorry for him.
Anchic
proshka, Inna, I saw a video on the internet where the brown is being taken apart for repair.
proshka
Yes??? They sent me home to the fig? Can be attributed to another service? I'll think ...
Anchic



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It is not easy to disassemble it the first time, but it is possible. The masters just don't want to get involved.
Taia
I am 99% sure that in no workshop they will not tear a blender so much, for many reasons.
This is only if you find a handy neighbor who will take on this business.
gawala
Quote: Taia
This is only if you find a handy neighbor who will take on this business.
My husband is rugged. when only the blendr began to "freak" he looked at it, twisted something there, turned it over, did it, but warned that it was not for long. In general, everything is done so that in a couple of years to buy a new one. this is how it is designed and manufactured. profit and again profit to the manufacturing company. Who needs the blender to plow for 20 years and also inherited the great-grandchildren .. So they do that after three years everything goes out of order and cannot be repaired in a parquet way, and if it does, it will not work for a long time anyway ..
shurpanita
I recently purchased a hand blender with tons of options. Model VVV KVN 1011 is still satisfied with the work) she made olivier, mayonnaise, in a small grinder she chopped lard into cutlets. I think that it will cope with dumplings Blender
proshka
Quote: Taia

I am 99% sure that in no workshop they will not tear a blender so much, for many reasons.
This is only if you find a handy neighbor who will take on this business.

Yes, they told me so - do you have a man with hands at home? I say - I don't have an armless one either. The master said - well, I'll try to take it home, put it on glue. But this is not for long. I refused.
Mandraik Ludmila
My next cheap blender started to die, I decided not to save money and buy a decent powerful blender, otherwise cheap Chinese blenders don't live for more than 2 years
So I decide what to choose: Philips HR1679 / 90, Black 800W, it can work as a combine, there are cutting attachments.

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Bosch MSM 67140, Black 750W

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Braun SAUCE MQ5035 750W

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Maybe someone has such models, share your opinion, please.
Anchic
I have a similar brown. I don't remember the exact name of my model, probably the previous one. It seems that my power is 600W. I can't say anything bad. It has been working for almost 6 years (in winter it will be 6 years old).
gawala
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Maybe someone has such models, share your opinion, please.
Take any. All are good. The power is the same everywhere. The price can clearly vary. But it seems to me that almost everything in one price line is plus or minus. I had Philips and a new Phillips .. (For some reason I always thought that I had Brown or Bosch ..... it turned out that all the same Phillips, but after it broke ... well, it happens ...)
Mandraik Ludmila
Philips HR1679 / 90, Black, it also works like a harvester, but accordingly it costs 2 times more than the others, so I sit and think whether this "game is worth the candle", or I'll get by with a Berner grater for slicing, instead of a harvester ... I have three days to think, then I'll go to the city and have to order already ...
gawala
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
or I'll use a Burner grater for slicing
I use a grater. True, even without a Phillips grater .. But I didn't even think to buy something with graters .. The main thing for me is that there is a "paw-foot" well and grind something with a knife .. 75 euros ..
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Mandraik Ludmila
Galina, well, yes, we have such a price somewhere the same, only I just don't need "horns", there is a mixer. First of all, you need a leg and a chopper with a rather large capacity, from 0.5 liters, and so that it is made in Europe ... In general, Philips seems to disappear, it costs almost 12tyrs, and the chopper capacity is 350ml, although the capacity of the combine is 2 liters ... always, wide assortment, does not facilitate the choice
It remains Brown and Bosch ... already easier
Miranda
I love blenders with replaceable knives.

I have a year Element, works fine. But there is no chopper glass. https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=438789.0

Shtebu is praised https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=455888.0

Well, Bamix, of course.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=177112.0
And if that's where you left off, then both Brown and Bosch are worthy. Look at features, price and what you like more externally. Or as they say - it fell into the hand.
gawala
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
to be made in Europe.
It is difficult with Europe .. Many manufactures have been brought to China ..
Mila56
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Philips HR1679 / 90,

Of these 3, I would choose the Philips HR1679 / 90, since I miss a blender with a large chopper volume in my kitchen. And in this blender there is a chopper of 2 liters. A Bosch MSM 66150 blender with a power of 600 watts has been running at home for 2-3 years. Beats the whites perfectly, the engine runs quietly. But for example, in order to grind the liver for a pancake, the volume of my grinder is not enough for me. If I have to choose another blender, it will definitely be a blender with a large chopper volume, well, with good power.
Mandraik Ludmila
Mila56, so these 2 liters, not a chopper, but a grater and cutter, there is no chopper knife for this large capacity, and the chopper in the set separately - 350ml, which stops - it will not be enough
Galina, all these blenders are made in Europe, I specially looked through and selected


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Miranda, I like Shteba, but they do it in China ... I don’t want Chinese anymore ..
Mila56
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
a chopper in a set separately - 350ml, which stops - it will not be enough
Yes, chopper volume up to 0.5 l. I would definitely not consider. Well, I looked at it on the Yandex market and it says about the grinder that it is 2 liters, and the mill is 0.3 liters. Well, they will write the same. Now I'll look about him. A large volume of a chopper + grater is more important to me than cutting, say, into cubes.
Mirabel
Ludmila, I will share my thoughts, I also face the choice of a blender, because the available ones do not suit me very much
Personally, I don't need cutters, I don't pay much attention to them, but I want to. so that there are 2 bowls = chopper - large and small, I want a potato grinder, a whisk, a leg with interchangeable attachments, like Bamiks.
One blender cannot accommodate all of this, so I decided to buy 2 blenders - the aforementioned Shteba blender and a food processor with a large bowl (there is no definite definition of either a compact, not very powerful Bosch, or Phillips with several graters I do not need)
All together it will cost about 150 euros. In my opinion, quite good.
gawala
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
all these blenders are made in Europe, I specially looked through and selected
Well, if Europe means Europe ...
Mila56
Mandraik Ludmila, here is another interesting Bosch CubeCutter MSM881X2 Hand Blender. Nozzles

Number of attachments 12
Food processor attachment Yes
Dicing attachment 2 pcs
Chopper / Mixing Attachment Yes
Metal. whisk d / whipping Yes
Kneading Hook Yes
Grater (insert into disc) 2 pcs
Shredder (insert into disc) 2 pcs
Chopper

Large Chopper Yes
Large chopper volume 2000 ml
Mini Chopper Yes
Power 800 watts.
Mirabel
Ludmila, GORGEOUS BLENDER! If there is no obsession with okra baits and there is a need for graters and everything else.
Mandraik Ludmila
Yes, of course we all proceed from our own needs. For example, I don't really need a potato grinder, I make mashed potatoes 3-4 times a year. I don't really need dough hooks and whisks, there is a Boshevsky mixer with a bowl and a bread maker with a dough mode Here, the shredder tempts me, very much, because I was now cutting vegetables into soup on Berner, I have a relatively new Berner-prima +, Well, I don’t like it - it’s not convenient, but the old one — a convenient "classic" I gave my mom. It's easier for me to cut with a knife than with this Burner ... And a chopper with a large capacity is needed, I have a small capacity - a pro-cook ... Something like this ... well, something gradually emerges ... otherwise it is difficult to determine alone , here I talked to you, you see your own needs understood better
Anchic
Ludmila, I once looked at my brown in stores, you can separately buy different things for it. You can buy the same shredder more, or a shredder.
Mandraik Ludmila
Anna, oh, how interesting, I will definitely look, it would be ideal!
Anchic
Oroma
Girls choosing a blender. In April, before moving to the dacha, I specially bought, after reading advertisements on the forum, a Shteba blender 30. Now I use it from time to time. What can I say: he is not worth the money. Very simple and kind of flimsy. He has one feature: wood-like plastic. My old blender with the declared power is much less, and it cost several times less, it did the same thing much more confidently. So I can't recommend. Not bad, but not good either. Not for this money
Mandraik Ludmila
Olga, I read the same not very positive reviews about him, it was about the flimsy design, besides, the headquarters was purely Chinese, and we had already ate in China. seductively, but delving into the tyrnet abandoned this idea.
Annathanks, come in handy
Masinen
Oroma, Olga, why didn't you like it? what exactly did not suit him?
like a nozzle, and even like Bamiks, everything is whipped perfectly, does not overheat, it can work for a decent long time, until the motor heats up.
He has good plastic, it does not creak or play anywhere. I have been using it all summer and so far I have not found any complaints about it.
Only the inscription was erased)))

By the way, the topic had not only positive reviews, but also negative ones, someone got copies with a marriage. All information was sent to the Germans for them to control these issues.

Better to write a review in the native thread, if not difficult. Thank you))
Mirabel
Quote: Oroma
he is not worth these money
directly upset ... If not Shteba. then I need to buy as many as 3 blenders But, in any case. thanks for the tip!
Masinen
Mirabel, Vic, and there are a lot of negative reviews on Bamiks, but I, for example, like it and I'm friends with him.

I went to the Yandex market and did not find a single review for the Shteba 30 blender, neither positive nor negative.

Therefore, go and read the reviews on Shteba.
For example, I, in my video review, did not praise or scold Stebu, but simply made a review as informative so that people could see how he works, the sound at work, the equipment and attachments, as well as what he can do.

Mirabel
Masinen, Mash, yes, I trust your opinion much more!
In Belgium, no. in my opinion on sale, the Germans on Amazon squeak with delight from this blender.
Oroma
Masinen, Masha! I didn’t say he was bad. It’s just that I apparently had high expectations. I don't know how much it costs in Germany, but here it costs 6 thousand, which is almost 90 euros. At home, I have the same function (well, without a potato grinder ....) some kind of Bosch Mli Brown, I don't remember. It cost a thousand and a half. And he does everything the same and exactly the same. Therefore, I was expecting something more from Shteba. Shteba has the same small chopper. And not even a glass! All knives are small. Some kind of "fufulechka". There are things that I would recommend with a clear conscience: Panasonic bread maker, MV Panasonic, although I also have Shteba, Princeska. It is excellent value for money, which I personally appreciate very much.And I am always happy when I manage to acquire such a thing. I don't have a marriage in the blender (I hope), it works, but does not cause delight. so this is purely my personal moment
Mirabel
Olga, It will also cost me with delivery
about the same, ABOUT 100 EURO.

Quote: Oroma
All knives are small. Some kind of "fufulechka".
Well, this is all the chic. I have an unfinished Bamix (with one knife attachment, which cannot be removed at all). I love it!
There was a Domo blender with similar attachments, but I broke it when I moved. It also seemed very comfortable.

Quote: Oroma
so this is purely my personal moment
Yes. probably so. It's just not your thing and that's it.
and, unfortunately, we cannot buy a good blender for 1500 rubles, that is, 20 euros.
spring
Vick, I have a Kenwood 724, it suits me, not flimsy. I ditched the chopper in it with a dumpling dough, well, it's too small for him, they changed it to a new one in the service. Well, for the test I bought only 3110 Boshik, a bowl 2300. For a long time there is a Boshik mixer. Bread maker for all other types of test. It seems like my agony of choice is over ... if the girls don't come up with something else.
Mila56
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
For example, I don't really need a potato grinder, I make mashed potatoes 3-4 times a year.
So I don't need it either.
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
and a bread maker with dough mode
But what about shortbread dough in 21 seconds. I feel sorry for this to drive a bread maker. And the coating in the bucket is not known how it will behave, the dough is dry, in grains. Well, I don’t think that such dough is made in HP



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Quote: spring
Well, for the test I bought only 3110 Boshik, a bowl 2300
I’m just thinking about something like this, since there is a mixer and there is no need for extra attachments. To knead shortbread dough, well, or 1 kg. chop meat or liver. And then email. I use a meat grinder when I need to scroll 3-5 kg. meat. Because of 1 kg. reluctance to wash the auger and other parts of the meat grinder later. And according to the instructions for this Boshik, what types of dough can you knead? I looked at the picture that he was chopping onions. And there is no picture about meat. Can I grind meat in it? I thought that it was possible without problems (since there is a knife), but it turns out?
Masinen
Quote: Oroma
And not even a glass!

At the expense of the glass I completely agree, I need it, I don't know why they decided to make a complete set without it.

Quote: Oroma
All knives are small. Some kind of "fufulechka"

Bamiks also has small legs, but at the same time the price is twice as high. Such attachments should be small, and this is the norm. Bamiks was the first to make such attachments))

Quote: Oroma
so this is purely my personal moment
Well, yes, not your thing, well, it's okay)
I also have an old Brown, which is made in Spain, but it works, it is 12 years old. But already dead))

I also have a Bamix, everything is good in it, but there is no Corolla, which is sometimes needed, and so it is beautiful and powerful.
Yes, there is also Kaso with a potato grinder, so he is not expensive, but he only has a leg with a knife, an iron potato grinder and a chopper. His mom took it away from me, she really liked it. But it heats up quickly, you won't work with it for a long time.
But Shteba's blender is the best option out of all my blenders.
The glass is not enough, but I have scans from Bamix
Therefore, I have something to compare with, and all blenders are from different companies and of different levels.

But here, there are no comrades for color and taste))
You can go to the Bamiks topic and read the reviews of people who paid 10-12 thousand each and expected that for that kind of money Bamiks would do everything himself)))
And they also write, why pay that kind of money for Bamiks, does not live up to expectations.
And for me everything justifies both expectations and the price, like Shteba justified everything, but this is my personal opinion

Maybe you should look at the Element! He also has a bunch of nozzles and looks pretty, and to sell to Shteb and that's it, since it wasn't love))
Mandraik Ludmila
Ludmila, and for shortcrust pastry I use a grinder, although I do it very rarely - a couple of times a year, so I need a grinder capacity of 0.5 liters, of course 1l would be better. And for minced meat, liver for pancakes, I also use a meat grinder.
Not in the subject: I pierced with a meat grinder, bought a Boshik this year, bought it in ozone, the site indicated the power of 1600W, received a meat grinder, the same "Bosch 1600W" on the top of the case, and 600W power consumption on the bottom, on a metal nameplate, that is, 1600 is the possible power through the gearbox, for work, well, there are no declared 1600W. Now I don't know how to determine the correct power of household appliances. But for blenders, everything seems to be the same, consumed and applied power. But meat grinders and harvesters do not seem to be so simple
Regarding the glass, I already have "tra" from the past, broken blenders, I don't need a glass, but I rarely have a glass without it. I liked the idea Anna buy Brown and collect the necessary parts additionally, which is interesting, the prices on Brown's website are one to one repeat the prices in ozone, and the assortment is larger.
Mirabel
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
and for shortcrust pastry I use a chopper,
Is it possible in more detail?
I understand ... in the sense of a knife that crushes everything you use for shortcrust pastry?
Mandraik Ludmila
Vika, yes, put the butter, cut into pieces (not small), add flour, if necessary, add sugar and an egg and what else is in the recipe, and the knives chop and mix everything perfectly in half a minute
Masinen
Vika, I made biscuit dough in a chopper with knives, it turns out great)
And I also like to knead shortbread with knives.
Mirabel
yes, I also knead with knives, but I have a blender with a small bowl and sometimes I have to knead in 2 stages.
Mandraik Ludmila
Vika, that is why a larger bowl is needed, 350ml well, very little ... and 500ml "will not be enough"
spring
Quote: Masinen

Vika, I made pebble dough in a chopper with knives, it turns out great)
And I also like to knead shortbread with knives.
Masha, what is this pebble dough?
Mirabel
Ludmila, I'll tell you and 800ml is also not enough sometimes
Masinen
spring, Lena, this is galleTe)))

Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
that's why a larger bowl is needed,

Therefore, I do all this in Thermomix or did it in ProfiKuk))
spring
Mash, of course, but I asked for a search and ...
Mirabel
I already wanted to order a processor on Amazon, like Lerel, they do not want to send it to Belgium ... on Ibea, it is already 70 euros. For this money, you can buy more powerful.
spring, Len, have you already used your Bosch? are you satisfied? I would like to ask about the dimensions. not very huge, noisy and heavy?
spring
Vika, I am very pleased, it is small, easy to use and maintain, bowl 2300, kneaded the dough on a crostat, this is a dumplings in 21 seconds, biscuit. Even shredded vegetables, everything is fine. But for the dough, in general, class, very confidently and not strainingly chops, mixes into a ball, I even liked watching the process, a bowl with a handle, I put it on the scales and fill up the flour. So I took 3110, and at 3100 there is also a nozzle for yeast dough, you can cook it with a universal knife, but if you add something like raisins, then it (raisins) will be cut. For me, yeast does not need to be cooked in it, so I did not consider this option. There is nothing superfluous, one universal knife and two flat discs, everything is hidden right in the bowl, I leave the knife in the slave. condition, and they removed the disks flat, they do not take up space at all. Yes, the legs are with suction cups, so that it does not move during operation and, importantly, is cheap. Not heavy.

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