Furniture for kitchen

Girls, I also appeal to the collective mind. need 2 shelves above the dining table. on the bottom - a roster 40x23cm, a VEKO coffee maker and a coffee grinder, on the top there are jars. I tried one option - it didn't go, it looked massive. Maybe you can advise something based on personal experience

the sofa is 2.15 m across the wall, that is, in the upper left corner in the picture. Bend the kitchen with a corner, there is not much space there, of course, that is, the corner cabinet stands along the sofa on one side. On the right then there is a passage to the sleeping place.

Yes, I also thought the first thing. But maybe you can not wrap the kitchen so radically? More precisely, wrap, but make a wide dining table out of the turn. It is possible with a void under the countertop, or it is possible with narrow cabinets below, but with a protruding "table" at least 20 centimeters for knees. Or, in general, arrange this perpendicular module on wheels, so that you can push it onto the sofa at lunchtime, and move it aside during sleep.
And let the right wall under the light shelves.

But this is if there is a permanent bedroom. And for the sake of rare occasions, I am also for the chair-bed.

but to make a wide dining table out of the turn.

I also thought about it, in general, it’s also an idea, but then there will be a table, it will also be a work surface, since there is no room at all for the salt, so many ideas have already been thrown, and at first I thought that in the kitchens 9 sq. ... m. you can't live at all

[Louise]

Now there are many models of folding kitchen couches, these are additional storage boxes and a sleeping place.
Louise, look, this is exactly your option.

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As for the width of the chair-bed: 80 cm is quite comfortable for me, because I don't toss and turn at night, and 140 cm is not enough for my husband. So this issue must be approached individually.

My mom sleeps on a 90cm bed and my son bought an ottoman too 90cm. We with him on it together fit quite freely (when he is sick, we have to spend the night with him).

Ol, well, these are all 2-bedroom full-size sofas. And my version is the most compact, in my opinion.

The most compact is a folding table.
Corners, by the way, are also quite compact:

I also thought about it, in general, it's also an idea, but then the table will also be the work surface, since there is absolutely no room for the salt

Duc I have a similar parsley.)) True, there is a dining table on the sidelines, and people (if in small quantities) prefer to dine with the same "language" closer to me.


Well, the table is also by the sofa. The weakest point here is the height difference. Even an ordinary table for a sofa is too high, and even a tabletop, if it is not forcibly lowered, is not at all good. And if in your case someone will sit there during lunch, then you will have to get flat high pillows under the ass.) But you can not eat from there, but just take it as a sleeping nook with some conveniences.

9 meters for the kitchen is not bad. The form is just impractical.

on the bed 90cm

the bed is completely different, there is free space on all sides, where you put your hands and feet, scatter it. And the chair-bed-limited space-armrests, just where the hands are ... you don't know where to attach them ...
I'm actually writing about my experience .. It is clear that someone can sleep on the edge itself, but give someone 2 m wide ..
Everything is relative..

[Galina]

Galina, well yes. You just need to look exactly at the width of the bed. And then if the whole chair is 1m, then minus the armrests - it will not be enough.

By the way, can there be armchair beds without armrests?

Can there be armchair beds without armrests?

It seems to me that everything is there now ..

[Galina]

Galina, Tick, and armchairs are without armrests. For example, the most practical accordion decomposition system is very often without armrests:

There are other compact folding sofa chairs:

so there are armchairs without armrests.

Well, at the time when we bought a chair-bed, there were no such options in principle.
By the way, a wide chair ...
Well, I'm telling you that now there is EVERYTHING.

There are other compact folding sofa chairs:

Here is the bottom one, as it were, not too compact - in our kitchen it is just that. A normal double seat in disassembled form, and with tucked "ears" it is not too shallow. ((

By the way, a wide chair ...

Accordions come in widths from 70 to .... almost as many cm as you like in 10 cm increments. By the way, IKEA is full of similar models, and quite budgetary ones. They are also good in that you can sew a cover on them in the color of curtains or a kitchen set, or even change them every day. At the same time, you can choose the length of the berth from 186 to 210 cm.

Here is the bottom one, as it were, not too compact - in our kitchen it is just that. A normal double seat in disassembled form, and with tucked "ears" it is not too small

There are ears that are semi-folding, as in the picture, and there are also those that are folded to a vertical position.
In general, there would be a desire to rummage around properly, and you can find everything.

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as an example is simple.

The most compact is a folding table.
Corners, by the way, are also quite compact:

Ol, the corner interested me. Where can you see it?

In general, there would be a desire to rummage around properly, and you can find everything.

I agree with this.) Perhaps we should start with a trip to furniture.

By the way, we also built a kitchen "around the sofa" - a cupboard with dishes props up the lowered ears of the sofa literally tightly.)

One of my acquaintances ordered longer legs for a regular corner sofa and it began to approach the table in height. It looked normal, it didn't even occur to me that the legs were elongated.

Ol, the corner interested me. Where can you see it?

Anechka, I found him in the tyrnet in the picture - I gave a link to Yandex-pictures above, and I saw it there.
You can look through all the pages using these pictures - for sure there is something interesting.

Perhaps we should start with a trip to furniture.

I always look like this: first I find a suitable picture by general search, use it to find out the name / article / manufacturer of the product, and then use this data to set a search in order to examine in more detail and find where this product is.

Girls, but I like this clamshell bed. We used to have one for guests, so there is a mattress and a blanket with a pillow, you can put it and close it, and on top you can have a cover and stand for itself and take up almost no space. Something I can not put the link in any way. Although it's easy to type in Google, the bed is a clamshell and that's it, it's on wheels.

Can you take a photo with a view of the right wall so that it is clear how your table and pantry are located there?

Olya, hello) I hope I understood correctly what to remove)) There is no storage room, there is a passage (I called it a mini-box) from one side to the rooms and on the other to the toilet, bathroom, garden.

Here is the second miracle of my kitchen after the window - the battery))



And here is the passage from the kitchen, with a barrier from our ALREADY year-old Sashka)))

[Svetlan,]

Svetlan,or maybe the battery should have been positioned somehow

How do you all respond so quickly and insert pictures? It seems to me that I am specifically dull in the settings. 15 minutes answered, and everything hung and disappeared ((

Thank you, Svetochka, now the space is clearer, otherwise it was not very clear on the handwritings.
Now for a more complete picture.

[Galina]

Galina, while you are near, I rather answer)) yes, the whole house must be brought to mind, we have moved, so to speak, to what it was. There was no time for batteries and all that) I was about to give birth, I would have time to make cosmetics for children.
And now there is really no one to do, so for now, as it is))

[Svetlan]

Svetlan while it is beautiful, everything is new, you are comfortable and this is the most important thing. And the rest will gradually be done

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, your battery is not a miracle yet. Aunt has a battery under the CEILING!

[Vinochek]

Vinochek, how is it?

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, Svetlana, congratulations! We did a great job!
I like your kitchen, and the rack with contents

Thank you !

Lisichkalal, so glad for you. It turned out to be very spacious. Congratulations. We did it so quickly. Here people think and discuss for years. And you, one or two, and in kings. Cool.

Thank you! Fast? And it seemed to me for so long)) Nah, for years we can't)) There is still a lot to be done.

Svetochka, congratulations on the result!
The main thing is that the hostess likes it, and minor misunderstandings will eventually be erased and forgotten.
Svetochka, why don't you have the same height of the pencil case (column) and the upper cabinets? Is it you on purpose, or is it also a mismatch? It was possible to make the upper cabinets even higher, which means more roomy. Or how?
Did you manage to unfold the refrigerator doors?
Are you going to change the window frame? Then, maybe, make one common transom so that it opens upwards, then the light opening will be at least a little larger and, accordingly, brighter in the kitchen.

Thank you) I ordered different heights. I just needed a 60 cm apron distance, not 52, as they suggested. This is for the cars to open without problems. Took the highest top cabinets. And the pencil case, due to the difference of 8 cm with the apron, had to be taken or less, then there would be lower cabinets, or more. Of course they took more. And if they were leveled, then I would jump to the closets.
The door of my refrigerator does not hang. And they did not expand, otherwise we will lose 1 seat) By the way, everyone likes to sit in the corner so much, whoever is the first is in the kings)
Yes, we will change the frame and do it exactly as you write. It will open from top and right to left.

[Lisichkalal]

Sveta, I think that such rugs should be sold in, France, in stores like BIPA, DM

Galya, I looked at the dm, did not find it. And I couldn't find supermarkets in the French.
But I saw that the girls had already given links to the Amazon, I haven't looked yet, I'll look a little later)

Lisichkalal, Congratulations! Nobilia - good furniture, let it serve for a long time and reliably
about the sockets - yes, they should be built into the wall, but let a neat (!) professional do it so that the wall is not smashed into pieces and the apron is not cracked :-)
as a temporary budget option for a compartment with stoves - you can hang on the upper edge there something like a rag "roulade" (we call it that) of some "metal" color, which can be lowered down if all the contents need to be closed, or even thin aluminum blinds - in any building there is, it is quite inexpensive, the width can be chosen

Thank you) yes, the quality cannot be compared with Leroy Merla or Briko Depot.
The husband will redo the sockets, he works for a very long time and very efficiently. Just what comes in handy here)
I really liked the blinds idea. After all, I saw options for rising blinds in stores, but this, I think, is an expensive option. And what does these thin aluminum blinds look like? Should I see them in the window department or not?

And still cool! And I really like the apron for its such inconspicuousness. So that there is no dissonance with hung and instructed objects, after all, the places are not so much and in any case, some of the things will have to be kept upstairs, and not hidden out of sight, so that the shocking apron is not obstructed.)) And I love such horizontal handles, it is convenient and unobtrusive. Only mine are not so long.)

The question is still open with the rails. On the one hand, I want it conveniently, but on the other hand, won't I ruin everything? I'm hanging everything), I suppose there are still different colors.
And the apron is ordinary)) here they immediately suggest doing this in the shops.
At first I chose a dark, good contrast was the color of the kitchen, and then, as I imagined that before the cabinets one would be dark on my 8 square meters, I changed my mind.
The handles are very comfortable, but fingerprints remain. Inox color, well, like a matte metal, Bosch also produces such dishwashers) and immediately poked with the largest ones, I remembered the girls' advice that they were deep, they turned out to be the deepest)

And what does these thin aluminum blinds look like? Should I see them in the window department or not?

In a store like "Bau Haus", "Obi", you may have a different name for them, in general, a large store is all for construction .. In the Blinds department, perhaps windows .. We have a separate department. Well, how is it separate? You walk all over the store and come across a nook with blinds, there are all sorts of straw curtains, Roman curtains, of any color and size ... Well, or ask where you have blinds for the windows .. they will show you right there .. The choice is very large ..
Well, take a look for an example ..
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[Lisichkalal]

LisichkalalLight, I look at your kitchen, one to one with my location, and a table, and a refrigerator, and a TV set above the aisle, only I have a large window with a huge window sill, and the gray-green scale is so familiar!

Ksyusha, cool)))) oh, I would use a large window, and even with a large window sill)

Ipatiya, Vika, irysikf, Thank you !

Can you tell me what advice you didn’t listen to?

Ira didn’t listen, rather it’s just not the end of the tap. With a handle on the side. Although, it seems to me that water will still accumulate around the tap, only that less would drip onto the tap itself. It is also possible that if it were at a large slope from the bottom up, then there would also be fewer drops on the tap.
But on the other hand, I am very glad that I did not take it with a high spout, as I really wanted.
If I remember what I have not yet listened to, I will write))

[always]

Ira didn’t listen, rather it’s just not the end of the tap. With a handle on the side. Although, it seems to me that water will still accumulate around the tap, only that less would drip onto the tap itself.

No, there are still a lot of drops with the handle on the side. If you try to turn it off with a wet hand, it flows from your hand to the rim of the sink, to the handle itself, and from it again to the rim of the sink. Therefore, I left such an abundance of water on a vertical handle, turned inward - the space does not block, water does not flow from it to the edge (and from there to the tabletop), it is very easy to operate. Even when the climate was dry wherever it went, but ours was damp and the eternal slush around the sink did not disappear before - it simply did not have time to dry out. ((Plus, the ever-wet, laid-on napkins for collecting water will slip, then stink.))) And now the beauty is almost always dry.
But the tap is such a trifle - you can always change it, but in a private house "unnecessary" will always come up with an application.))

I’m wondering - why do I like the dish dryers standing on the tabletop so much? Even if it's rugs. While I'm in the kitchen, I have wet dishes always available even with a dishwasher. And why would a couple of cups or a rinsed knife eat away the precious surface the size of the bedding on the table instead of hanging quietly under the top cabinets in the dryer on the railing? If you choose this wisely, then the dishes fit up to the figs! I can load it in full and take a picture.)

So I still advise you to screw the railing invisible under the cabinets, as well as organize the local lighting along the front edge of the cabinets, and whether to use it or not - time will tell.

There are so many useful, experience-proven advice here that it's time to publish a brachure!
Lena, load, please))) and take a picture.
I saw ikeevsky dryers and it seemed to me that they hang low over the countertop and almost the same way you lose space by the size of this drying.
Do you need roof rails? Well, I'm rather glad than not) I want them) Ikeevsky norms? There you can also hang such colorful pots, I would take a couple of green ones for small things)
Yes, we just think of the lights on the scotch tape on the cabinets to glue the lights. Lad seems to be the ones without wires.

I am sitting in a spacious new kitchen, making a cartoon porridge for a child, I catch aromas and read my favorite forum)
Happinnes exists )

Yes, we just think of the lights on the scotch tape on the cabinets to glue the lights.

Selling lamps are long such, just under the shelves, they really need to be screwed onto self-tapping screws. But it's convenient ... with a lamp like this. She's like a fluorescent lamp. it is long, there is 50cm, there is 1m, there is 1.24 ..
There is no light in my kitchen completely. In the sense of the chandelier in the middle. She never was. Light above the dining table and on the so-called "bar" .. Artificially There is very little light .. (windows are understandable in the kitchen) When the repairs were made, two lights on the hood are on, and such a long lamp was placed under the shelves. it became light immediately, the light falls on both the sink and part of the desktop .. During the day it is light from the window, in the evening, I turn on this lamp, if necessary ..

Lad seems to be the ones without wires

These are probably diode lamps .. Diode tape .. also good, el. takes very little ..

Diode tape .. also good, el. takes very little ..

I also wanted to change the lamps under the shelves and above the stove (the thickets are already burning out). But they advised me to put a diode tape - which is what I am doing now. Expensive, of course, if we talk about the cost of the diode strip and installation. But it pays off by the fact that it is convenient and the cost of electricity consumption later will not be comparable.
I even put diode lamps in rooms and other places.

Selling lamps are long such, just under the shelves, they really need to be screwed onto self-tapping screws. But it's convenient ... with a lamp like this. She's like a fluorescent lamp. it is long, there is 50cm, there is 1m, there is 1.24 ..

In! Yes, we have just three of these above the table top on our hands. They are switched on individually, depending on the zone where I am currently working.

Lena, load, please))) and take a picture.

Look. I'm kind of sick now, but the plastic in the dishes is not washed. Therefore, it has accumulated in three days. Now I washed it and put it to dry. Not a single jar-glass is put into each other, everything is ventilated.


The rest of the pictures are under the spoiler.

This is a closer look:

I laid out all the dishes on the table so that I could "count".))


It just took out the tableware from the drawer and put it in the dryer. In real life, a cutting board, a few tea cups and a bowl / frying pan will fit here if necessary.

But just in case, you can have a flat rug in the house - a six-liter pan does not fit into such a drying, for example (3-4 is easy, but not much fits next). I dry this on a large microfiber cloth.

[louisa]

louisa,
Louise, we had such a sofa in the kitchen:
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For 10 years he served as an additional place in the kitchen of 8 sq. m. When folded, it was put to the dining table. Quite durable.

And our table was pine:
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There are even smaller ones.

how is it?

she did it herself, because the kitchenette is small and instead of the window there is an exit to the balcony. The table didn't fit anywhere.

In a store like "Bau Haus", "Obi", you may have a different name for them, in general, a large store is all for construction .. In the Blinds department, perhaps windows .. We have a separate department. Well, how is it separate? You walk all over the store and come across a nook with blinds, there are all sorts of straw curtains, Roman curtains, of any color and size ... Well, or ask where you have blinds for the windows .. they will show you right there .. The choice is very large ..
Well, take a look for an example ..
🔗

Galya, thanks, I understood everything)

Selling lamps are long such, just under the shelves, they really need to be screwed onto self-tapping screws. But it's convenient ... with a lamp like this. She's like a fluorescent lamp. it is long, there is 50cm, there is 1m, there is 1.24 ..

I think I've seen such, even in the lead.

These are probably diode lamps .. Diode tape .. also good, el. takes very little ..

Just round spot bulbs in a plastic frame. They are on scotch tape.You glue the scotch tape and glue it where you need it. Maybe halogen? I'm not quite in the subject yet.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, Sveta, but I liked the handles in the kitchen set. Long, I wonder where the hinges are at the door? Does such a handle imply only design or if you grab it in different places, the door opens easily? Very interesting.
Bijou, Lena, did you take a sink without a wing on purpose? Why?

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, I would choose LED.

Look. I'm kind of sick now, but the plastic in the dishes is not washed. Therefore, it has accumulated in three days. Now I washed it and put it to dry. Not a single jar-glass is put into each other, everything is ventilated.


The rest of the pictures are under the spoiler.

This is a closer look:

I laid out all the dishes on the table so that I could "count".))


It just took out the tableware from the drawer and put it in the dryer. In real life, a cutting board, a few tea cups and a bowl / frying pan will fit here if necessary.

But just in case, you can have a flat rug in the house - a six-liter pan does not fit into such a drying, for example (3-4 is easy, but not much fits next). I dry this on a large microfiber cloth.

Let's get well!
Thank you, everything is clear, I will think where, what and when))
I remember someone posted a photo, there are rails along the entire apron and weighs a lot. That would be to find and take a closer look.

[Lisichkalal]

Lisichkalal, Sveta, but I liked the handles in the kitchen set. Long, I wonder where the hinges are at the door? Does such a handle imply only design, or if you grab it in different places, the door opens easily? Very interesting.

More likely a design, but if you take it in the middle, it opens. And if there are the loops, then I doubt it. Need to try. And the hinges in different cabinets from different sides, depending on which side it opens. If necessary, I'll take a picture)

Lisichkalal, I would choose LED.

Are these the ones with the tape?
I still don't think much about lighting, I have a hood now !!!
Is it better in the subject of hoods about this or is it possible here? I will write, and if anything, I will erase and move to another topic)
I want a black one, although it will probably be easily soiled, the design is at an angle.
As I understood, for my 8 squares and 30 cubes, I need a capacity of at least 600. Well, the less noise, the more comfortable.
I also have a hole above the window, that is, you can bring out the pipe, but I can't imagine how it will look.
So we think about whether it is worth messing with going out or just using filters.
I just want the hood to fulfill its function, and not just serve as additional lighting.