Furniture for kitchen

[tuskarora]

Lilechka, especially for you: my kitchen is already at the completion stage, they gave very good advice in Ikea - apart from the sockets above the countertop (I have 6 of them), sockets are needed under the cabinets, at the baseboard - for the dishwasher, stove and washer, and above the cabinets - for hoods and lights (lamps in the bottom of the cabinet). Then different wires will not stick out anywhere. Like Lena tuskarora
I made myself 2 more under the windowsill, for a coffee machine and ... a New Year's garland. I have a TV and lamps with hidden wiring. A total of 16 outlets.

The lighting under the upper cabinets, on the upper console of the headset, above the bar are connected directly and brought out to switches at the entrance, there is also an air conditioner. The hood and floor heating are also directly connected with toggle switches: the first on it, the floor on the wall above the baseboard.

[m0use]

m0use, Ksyusha, what for under the lockers?

I am not m0use, but I will answer. :) Means behind the curbstones below. I also have a dishwasher, an oven, a refrigerator and a temporary panel connected there. So that the wires are not visible. Again, if you remove the plinth panel, you can get to the outlets without touching the equipment.

Bliin, my hair began to move. I ordered only 8 sockets to be made in the kitchen. Of course, I already understand that this is not enough ... I will have to buy a surge protector for equipment ... But if only I said 11-16 to do it. They would have screwed me so much flattering things to the sockets, I listened to during the installation of these sockets

[kseniya D]

kseniya D, Ksenia we are planning the basic markup. I have a feeling that no matter how much we do, everything will not be enough for me .........

And I didn’t think of making the lower outlet for the washer-dishwasher-refrigerator ... eh emae !!! I'll be smart ...

I have a feeling that no matter how much we do, everything will not be enough for me .........

Etto for sure ...

And I didn’t think of making the lower outlet for the washer-dishwasher-refrigerator ... eh emae !!! I'll be smart ...

And my electrician flatly refused to make sockets downstairs - she planned for a dishwasher and electric ignition. He said that since there is a dishwasher, it is dangerous, suddenly a flood and everything will short out

I think he just got lazy. Now all cars are equipped with an aquastop sensor. And I have the outlet to the left of the machine, and the inlet hose to the right. Even if there is some kind of leakage, it will not accumulate on your floor overnight a layer of water of 10-15 cm to flood the outlet.

and even downstairs does not mean right by the field. At a height of 40 cm (if I'm not mistaken) according to the norms. Is there really that much water? I have three sockets at this height - for the PMM, the water filter, and one is planned for the oven (if it will stand at the bottom) and one for the chopper in the sink (if I am ripe for it). The last two are now just isolated. And upstairs I have a socket for lamps on furniture, hoods. There are also sockets in the middle for the TV and tuner.

all. I am in a trance from the fact that I got so badly fucked up now I need to buy at least two surge protectors

buy two surge protectors

only those where there is a switch for each outlet
like that

Thank you. I will buy this

Girls, I had a very good electrician, very competent. In a newly purchased apartment, he recommended removing the outlet from the bathroom, the previous owners installed it there. And I would not put an outlet at the bottom, in any case, it should be possible to turn everything off quickly if necessary.

... I also have a dishwasher, an oven, a refrigerator and a temporary panel connected there. H

I have sockets for all these things in the cabinet under the sink, it is very convenient, there is always access

and one for the chopper in the sink (if ripe for it).

mature, the thing is cool, it makes me even more happy than the dishwasher

I ran out and counted my sockets, 21 pieces, all in the right places, with a TV and a refrigerator at the top, otherwise, with the width of the refrigerator almost a meter, and a height of 2, you can't get much from the back wall. I read the idea somewhere on the construction site. My husband's brain was composted for a long time, (he did it himself), but now it is very convenient. I remember how my mother was surprised and looked at me suspiciously. There are double and triple sockets near the work surfaces, but my kitchen is long, with sausage. Countertops -3.6 + 1.5 + 1.3. But I forgot in the closets, and I'm afraid to approach my husband already. I thought of putting a robot vacuum cleaner there, but it's too late ...

Girls, about the sockets, I have such a cheat sheet

well, plus our wishlist are all kitchen)

I thought of putting a robot vacuum cleaner there, but it's too late ...

Today I was thinking about the robot .... how to come up with a stationary place for it .... ??
maybe have ideas ?!

for a shredder in a sink

Explain to those in the tank, what kind of animal is this?

Explain to those in the tank, what kind of animal is this?

this is a disposer or a household waste grinder, put under the sink, in a nutshell, then all the cleaning, waste is not in the trash, but in the sink, it grinds the whole thing in a matter of seconds and flushes it down the drain
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[Louise]

Louise, Thank you! Every day I learn something new on this forum!

Today I was thinking about the robot .... how to come up with a stationary place for it .... ??
maybe have ideas ?!

I have it against the wall outside the door. I asked daddy and he made me a bench on top, just the size of a vacuum cleaner. The robot sometimes has problems with parking, it has to aim accurately so as not to hit the leg and get exactly to the base. But he still sits on it, just not always from the first call.
She put a box of stationery on the bench. In the future, I am planning a narrow cabinet with shelves there.

Girls, the rosette cheat sheet, please throw it away! Kitchen appliance sellers are not responsible for your electrical safety. And you don't have to believe everything that is written on the topic of electrical installation on the Internet, often the authors of these sites are installers who, if ever, saw the normative literature in their eyes, then, alas, in their distant youth. This is mostly just an advertisement for their own services.

"14.29 ...... it is not allowed to place sockets under and above sinks." SP31-110-2003 "Design and installation of electrical installations for residential and public buildings".
And everything is explained simply - if, God forbid, a flexible eyeliner breaks through, or some other pipe, then the water does not flow down to the floor in a thin stream, but beats under pressure (it happens especially "effectively" at night, it has been tested on myself) where- then to the side, possibly directly to the outlet.

Common sense, of course, should prevail in the location of the sockets, and I would not put them under the sink either .. but as for the cheat sheet: it is clear that for the same device a different arrangement of sockets is possible .. and besides, at least you won't forget anything, I almost forgot about the hood and electric ignition

will support
sockets under the sink are beyond good and evil
unless it is somehow additionally protected
don't joke with electricity

And our developer joked like this: out of six kitchen sockets, two are above the sink, one is under.

Markings Filter, grinder, water heater where is usually located?

Markings Filter, grinder, water heater, where is it usually located?

40 cm from the floor to the side of the sink.

We will have a table with a sink embedded in it (60 cm then a sink), then a dishwasher, then a cooker, then a table with drawers, then an oven.
It turns out that you can place it right from the wall to the sink, since the sink will be only 60 cm from the wall. We have a good electrician with a higher education, a former military man, I think he will tell you, yesterday they called while he was busy.

I counted on 16kv. m. 19 sockets and sometimes looking for something to turn off.

and one for the chopper in the sink (if ripe for it).

How lovely it is! I have been using it for a year and do not enjoy it, especially in the season of salads, preparations! I wash everything down the sink and that's it!

[Annutka]

Annutka, I really want to put Tanya, I had to work with my husband. Please tell me what volume of shredder do you have?

[kokoshka]

kokoshka, I have a Bone Crusher 800, I don't know how in volume, but we took the average one, there is another 600, but it is weaker, and there is even more powerful. I am very pleased with mine, there is much less garbage, it grinds everything in seconds. Now is the season of watermelons, the season of harvesting, so this is generally a holiday, all the skins and cleaning in the sink and that's it. The husband installed himself in a matter of minutes, instead of a siphon.

So I was advised to 800 it turns out I draw a conclusion enough.

[kokoshka]

kokoshka, I have an InSinkErator 100 shredder, I am very pleased with it, the power is excellent, no negative reviews, low noise, fast, grinds all waste, except for large bones, but with a capacity slightly lower it does not process all waste

and when there is a chopper, can you fill in a Mole type agent?

[Sens]

and when there is a chopper, can you fill in a Mole type agent?

Sensnot in the chopper. And below, into the pipe. In the chopper itself, no way.

[Elena Tim]

Elena Tim,
but how to clean the chopper itself from fatty contamination?
where can the power button be installed?

[Sens]

Sens, the grinder is recommended to be operated with cold water turned on, thereby the fat solidifies and is washed off along with the waste, it is useful for this purpose sometimes to grind the bones from cherries, chicken bones, so that abrasive particles wash off all this frozen plaque. And mount the button wherever you like

but how to clean the chopper itself from fatty contamination?

The shredder itself is virtually maintenance-free. Mine is almost 10 years old. It is cleaned, as Louise said, mechanically, with solid waste. While they are there in the cell "fly, rip off all the dirt. Now, for example, the watermelon season has begun, and the crusts are cleaning the chopper chamber to white. half a packet of soda and you can add a little kitchen soap and, not including the grinder, open the cork. Water under high pressure rinses both the grinder and the pipes themselves. By the way, this is a very good prevention of blockages of the pipes themselves, in which dirt is often retained by fat deposits.

where can the power button be installed?

I installed it directly on the wing of the sink, in a place where water does not enter. And it gets there - it's okay. There it is very far from electricity. At the bottom there is just a tube with air, roughly speaking this air, and the button turns on.
I myself did not understand what I wrote ...
Pneumatic button in!

on the wing of the sink

but this already I do not understand?
on the edge of the sink?

and if the worktop is cast and the sink is glued in ???

but the apron will not work, since the pneumatic ...?

but the apron will not work, since pneumatic ..

Yes, it is easy, the main thing is that the tube should reach.

Yes, it is easy, the main thing is that the tube should reach.

uh ... the tube will be on top ?? you can't hide it under an apron !?

[Sens]

By the way, Sens, and you know that the grinder also needs a sink with the appropriate diameter of the drain hole? It is much more than ordinary. Keep this in mind.

uh ... the tube will be on top ?? you can't hide it under an apron !?

If the repair has already been done, then of course you cannot hide the tube. Then a hole must be drilled in the sink or in the countertop. But those who install shredders, as a rule, will already advise themselves on where to insert the button.

will support
sockets under the sink are beyond good and evil
unless it is somehow additionally protected
don't joke with electricity

Girls, don't panic. If a short circuit occurs in the outlet, the plugs in the meter are automatically cut down and that's it. It is necessary to ensure that the meter is modern, with good plugs (and not bugs instead of them) and no water (and not only water) will not be afraid of our sockets. And in our modern age of electrical appliances and various kitchen gadgets from sockets in all sorts of places you can't go anywhere.

[Elena Tim]

I want to immediately call the master from the grinder company together with the final one with the grinder.
They say it's better, like ...
Elena Tim, but the kitchen will be installed first! That is, something must be taken into account when installing ...

but the kitchen will be installed first! That is, something must be taken into account when installing ...

Lil, it was easier for me: the fact is that the grinder installer arrived on the same day as the kitchen collectors. furniture. Therefore, they did everything at once. Another thing is that, naturally, I bought a special sink in advance, for a grinder.
The most ideal option is to consult with the company's specialists before buying a shredder, to tell what material the countertop or sink is. And they will tell you for sure whether it will be possible to hit the button or not.

Probably everyone should be called to the same number! Chopper, filter!