Elena Tim
Yeah.
variety
I look, then the people began to call the counting of sockets in the kitchen. Well, since such a booze has gone, I will report too.
I have only 14 sockets (without an electrical outlet):
- double on one wall for TV and microwave;
- two double ones above the first countertop (in them I turn on the Philips mini-harvester standing on the countertop and kitchen appliances that are removed from the cupboards as needed). In principle, I hardly use one double socket;
- two under the cabinet above the second countertop for a bread machine and a multicooker;
- double on the jamb above the windowsill for the kettle and the second multicooker standing on it;
- double over the dining table. I mainly use only one cell for connecting a netbook. I also plan to hang a lamp over the table, so that the second cell will not be "idle" either;
- double behind the refrigerator. Accordingly, I use only one cell to connect the refrigerator.
Ffsjo! Report submitted!
markolka
Quote: kseniya D

A little over a month ago, we completed the renovation of the kitchen-living room
Ksenia, tell me, please, what is your kitchen size? I have a very similar layout, I just can't decide on the kitchen .. And how deep is the drawer with the sink?
kseniya D
markolka, the wall on which there is a refrigerator and a cabinet for an oven 2.20, and where the stove is 2.60. A drawer with a sink is like this https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/2729/ru/ru/catalog/products/S09854283/#/S09854297 only without a rotating section inside.
markolka
Quote: kseniya D


Thank you! And tell me, please, what is the approximate distance between the plate and the island? Is it convenient to use?
kseniya D
Between the stove and the island 112 cm. Very convenient. The minimum, if I'm not mistaken, is 80 cm.
Creamy
I decided to share pictures of my good friend's kitchen. The kitchen in the Khrushchev house, with a gas boiler and an area of ​​only 5, 7 m. This kitchen has a corner kitchen, refrigerator, washing machine, dishwasher for 9 sets and a bar counter. Look.
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A semi-automatic gas water heater is hiding in a corner cabinet without a bottom.

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additional table top.
and lastly a window sill serving as a writing desk in the bedroom.

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Chamomile
Creamy, cool!!! Does the battery have a refrigerator? And how is their windowsill beaten? Can you also see or describe the corner by the window? And how did they pull the pipes to the dishwasher, and where did they hide them?
Creamy
Romashka1, I'm going to visit tonight, take a picture of the supply and outlet for the dishwasher.
Chamomile
Creamy, oh, please, find out how they put the refrigerator to the battery, what did they put between it and the battery? And what do they have with the window sill and the cabinet under it. Or is there just a window sill and the battery was moved under it?
Alim
Quote: Creamy

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A semi-automatic gas water heater is hiding in a corner cabinet without a bottom.

We were not allowed to install a gas water heater over the sink,: (prohibited by the rules. A good idea is a table with an additional board
Chamomile
Alim, dont be upset. I have a corner cabinet above the sink, which is very, very roomy. And there is no need to waste this space on the column, it hangs by the window and let it hang. For beauty, it can also be hidden in a locker. I regretted that I did the sink in the corner lower cabinet, so much space is wasted, almost in vain. It was quite enough to take 60 cm (or even less) of the neighboring cabinet under the sink, and use the lower corner cabinet as a spacious bedside table.
Taia
Quote: Alim
We were not allowed to install a gas water heater over the sink, it is prohibited by the rules.

We have a column installed above the sink, heat and soot right in your face when you use the sink.
But we are not allowed to put gas. column in the locker.
Creamy
I took pictures of the details. The shaped recess of the tabletop is made so that you can pour the detergent into the retractable receiver near the washing machine.

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Here, a panel with sockets for kitchen appliances is successfully located under the windowsill.

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here you can see the very corner of the kitchen with a wing of shallow depth.
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and this is for Chamomile 1 - you can see that in the large cable channel there is a water supply for the dishwasher and a drain into the sewer in it. Cable ducts are sold at electrical stores. The heating riser is located on the side of the washing machine. The house is panel-built, and therefore there is no built-in "Khrushchev" refrigerator in the kitchen.
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Chamomile
Creamy, thank you very much. The idea of ​​putting a washing machine or dishwasher against another wall is quite interesting. Need to think.
Manna
Quote: Chamomile1
For beauty, it can also be hidden in a locker.
For beauty, maybe good, but ... not for fire safety
Svetta
Quote: Chamomile1

Creamy, thank you very much. The idea of ​​putting a washing machine or dishwasher against another wall is quite interesting. Need to think.
The further the unit is from the place of ebb and flow, and even with turns, the worse. I can’t explain this correctly, but during the renovation I also wanted to put the washer against another wall of the kitchen. Our plumber (my respected Specialist!) Sooo advised me not to do this and then put everything on the shelves for me. I agreed. Now I don’t remember his arguments, but I did.
Creamy
Speaking right, svetta, it is very undesirable to put the dishwasher far away. Only Bosch is allowed to be placed far away. And those who have a microscopic kitchen, but still want a dishwasher, put it out of necessity.
Chamomile
In principle, I know this about pipes. Then the question is. what can you do if you put the refrigerator to the battery? Can I glue it over with something? Or is it better not to get involved with this idea?
Svetta
Chamomile1, and the battery to move or deploy 180 degrees.?
Chamomile
svetta, there's no point. It's easier to leave it as it is. But I would like to make it more comfortable.
Creamy
And change the apartment? I'm quite serious. after all, it happens that the heirs sell grandmother's apartments without repair. but maybe the kitchen will be a little larger or more elongated in length? And I would also think about the battery and consult with heating engineers.
Chamomile
Creamy, not yet an exchange option. I just want to make it even better than it is.
Svetta
Quote: Chamomile1

Creamy, not yet an exchange option. I just want make it even better than it is.

Remember - the best is the enemy of the good!
lega
Quote: Creamy
Here, a panel with sockets for kitchen appliances is successfully located under the windowsill.
Sockets in such proximity to the radiator violate all imaginable electrical safety standards. It’s not me that smart, it’s me who came across in life. We made repairs in a new apartment, moved the sockets where it seemed necessary and correct to us. And then, in order not to have problems in the future, they decided to make a project for an electrician. Then the workers of the necessary organization "cheated" on our house and we decided to just legalize all our electricians in fact. So ... everything was legalized for us, except for one outlet - it was forced to drown out because of the proximity to the heating battery. Although the nearest battery was more than a meter away. True, it was 50 centimeters to the riser. They said that if an accident occurs and the riser or battery breaks through, then it will not seem enough to us. Smeared, but where to go?
Kara
Quote: Creamy

I decided to share pictures of my good friend's kitchen. The kitchen in the Khrushchev house, with a gas boiler and an area of ​​only 5, 7 m. This kitchen has a corner kitchen, refrigerator, washing machine, dishwasher for 9 sets and a bar counter.
It seems that under Khrushchev, women did not cook at all, and did not wash them yet, HORROR! Alevtina, I'm just in shock, how you fit everything into this tiny little thing. I will not show my husband, otherwise, with my next hysteria, "nothing will fit!", He will knock me

I went to wash my 16 squares
Creamy
Kara, this is not my apartment.This is the apartment of a friend of mine. I have a large apartment with a large kitchen, storage room and winter garden. I am a shoemaker with boots, a realtor since 1999. And in my work I see a lot of different apartments, houses and kitchens. I put up a photo of this kitchen as an example of how people manage to place everything in a small area. Members of the forum saw my kitchen partially in posts about a trash can leaving and on Austrian curtains with roses.
eye
Quote: Kara
It seems that under Khrushchev, women did not cook at all, and did not wash them yet, HORROR!
no, the whole "uzhos", taking into account the absence of modern household appliances and supermarkets, in some places - round the clock, was one day off a week, Saturday became the second day off only in 1967
* Anyuta *
Quote: Alim
We were not allowed to install a gas column.More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=1366.0ku over the sink is prohibited by the rules.
Quote: Taia
We have a column installed above the sink, heat and soot right in your face when you use the sink.
But we are not allowed to put gas. column in the locker.

our gas water heater was originally supposed to hang in such a way that half of the kitchen door would hit against it. Then the column was moved to another wall and as a result it was installed in the kitchen cabinet and hangs right above the sink - I live in a private house - I have never had any complaints from the gas workers - except for comments on the pipes (there was a corrugation - they said to remove it).
* Anyuta *
About a year and a half ago, I posted a photo of the kitchen in one of the topics. in the left corner you can see the column covered by the kitchen cabinet and the sink above which this column is located
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And initially the column was supposed to hang where the facade of the open door is located in the photo. I never close this door - it is always open and it does not bother me at all.

* Anyuta *
Quote: lga
Sockets in such proximity to the radiator violate all imaginable electrical safety standards. I'm not that smart
Ol, I'll tell you more - you are very smart - honestly - in view of the fact that in the apartment I changed the wiring literally 2 weeks ago, and made us a very competent and intelligent man (a special thanks to him) - he simply categorically refused to put an outlet next to the battery - not for any money - and this was not a show off on his part, but responsibility for the quality of the work he performed.
Moreover, the outlet was there before (and it was there for about 35 years). An accident happened - pipes rusted in the ceiling - they called an emergency gang and they already changed the pipes to plastic, installed and moved the bimetallic battery to another wall to the outlet. got a lot of money for this and dumped - they don't care about the location of the batteries and sockets, but electricians can get it.

I had a battery, just like in this photo, but they moved it to the wall where the machine is ...
Quote: Creamy

I took pictures of the details.
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Quote: Kara
Alevtina, I'm shocked, how you fit everything into this tiny little thing
Tomorrow they will put a kitchen in my Khrushchev "five-meter" - I'll show you how everything will fit there
Creamy
I have seen the most interesting kitchens in dormitories with a total area of ​​11 meters, of which living room is 7 meters. People also manage to put a shower there. We take pictures for ads and market valuation of real estate purchased through a mortgage. But without the consent of the owners, I have no right to post photos of their apartments and rooms. The last photos of a small kitchen with a bar counter and a dishwasher were posted by me with the consent of the owners.
Sens
Quote: Creamy
leaving the trash can and on the Austrian curtains with roses.
Creamy can I have links?
Creamy
What's interesting? Bucket or curtains?
Sens
Quote: Creamy

What's interesting? Bucket or curtains?
and a bucket and roses!
Creamy
On homemade Austrian curtains with roses, the theme "Crazy hands" on page 97. Post No. 1937 from 26 m
May 2014 and on page 100 answer No. 1990 dated June 13, 2014

About the bucket, my post in this thread "Furniture for the kitchen" on page 47. Reply No. 924 dated June 23, 2012
Sens
Creamyyou can't insert links?

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Creamy
These are two whole sets. Tea and coffee service + table service. Both have the same drawing. The services are 18 years old. This is Korosten porcelain together with Germany. For special occasions. After buying a dishwasher, Lyuminarkovskaya dishes and stainless steel rule. Cupronickel is also far removed.
* Anyuta *
Quote: Creamy

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and I was very interested in this photo. Instead of a kitchen skirting board, a conventional ceiling or what? .. And then I now need to buy a plinth for the kitchen, but I only need it 65 cm .... looking at this photo - it dawned on me - maybe a simple ceiling glue for 20 re, than buy for 700 re 2.4 m and throw out the remains of 1.75 m to the landfill ...
Manna
Quote: * Annie *
Instead of a kitchen skirting board, a conventional ceiling or what?
Why? In my opinion, this is an ordinary kitchen
Quote: * Annie *
it dawned on me - maybe a simple ceiling glue
If this place is not an active zone of action, then you can. Otherwise, it is easily damaged.
lega
Quote: * Annie *
Instead of a kitchen skirting board, a conventional ceiling or what?

Anyuta, this is not a ceiling, but a normal kitchen skirting board. There are many different forms of them. The ceiling is too soft, it is not designed for use in the kitchen. So do not invent it and buy a normal one, and the rest is not in the trash, but in the storehouse - then you will update your piece.
* Anyuta *
Manna, lega, oh girls, if I did it for myself - I didn't even bother with it and didn't ask, but for strangers - .. believe me, an ordinary kitchen was all messed up and ukakaki (I apologize for my French) for 2 years so that I felt bad .. .. .. now I'm thinking - is it worth it ...
Manna
Anyut, then it’s definitely better kitchen, ceiling and a month will not last in such conditions
lega
Quote: * Annie *
but for strangers
And for strangers, and even more so, you need to make an unkillable, and not a foam baseboard. Anyuta, do you want to close the joint with the wall at the sink? What's on the wall? If the tile, then you can simply seal it up with a sanitary sealant - it is inexpensive and can be changed, the main thing is to do it carefully.
Chamomile
* Anyuta *, Anh. Conventional plastic kitchen skirting boards are not expensive. Just take the usual one, without a pattern and fintiflyushki.
* Anyuta *
Quote: lga
Anyuta, do you want to close the joint with the wall at the sink?
No, not by the sink, but along the work surface. I have a whole kitchen at 1,650 m - of which the overhead sink eats up 50 cm and the edge of the sink is bent just to the top - a plinth is not needed there. Something I missed with miscalculations. Well, in short, I need to close another meter, and a plastic panel under the tile will go along the wall (only these are not large plastic panels - that is, not like a plastic ceiling, but decorative ones), with which double-sided shower cabins are upholstered, here is the joint between the kitchen itself and these panels must be covered with something.
I will have panels of this kind on the wall - and they are textured, that is, even the baseboard (albeit kitchen) will still lag behind the wall.
I have just such a plan
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but the drawing is like this
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* Anyuta *
Quote: Chamomile1
* Anyuta *, An. Conventional plastic kitchen skirting boards are not expensive. Just take the usual one, without a pattern and fintiflyushki.

So I wrote about him - it will cost me 700 RH - this is the most common, but they are around 2.6 m long, and I only need a meter ...
We must look at home ...
* Anyuta *
I went to Leroy's website now - the baseboards are even 3 meters in size ... and it will be extremely inconvenient for me to carry it .. okay, I'll think about it again ...
Rita
* Anyuta *, and you ask in which thread the kitchen salon, maybe there are cuttings at a discounted price?
Pichenka
It seems to me that in the picture there may be a ceiling one, but there are not foam, but solid ones, close to plastic.
In general, it can cry at some local forum. Surely someone still has a suitable piece. Or go directly to someone who is engaged in repairs.

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