blackjack111
And whose production are these stoves, Chinese? This is normal? And then in Novosibirsk they are Chinese.
natalka
Quote: blackjack111

And whose production are these stoves, Chinese? This is normal? And then in Novosibirsk they are Chinese.

This is normal! Who told you that Chinese is bad? Almost all equipment is assembled in China now and the quality depends on the owners and quality control in production. And the clothes of famous brands are also sewn in China and this does not bother anyone. Well, what can you do if there is the cheapest labor? Have to put up
Sirius
Good day everyone. Take a new baker into your ranks.
I will briefly tell my story: I have long hinted to my wife about a bread maker, but I did not find agreement in its need. And just recently she was visiting a friend and tasted bread from Moulinex 5002 and was delighted. Now I have already begun to act and choose between Panas SD254 / 255 and Moulinex 5004 (it was too painful for baguettes to be tempted by the shape of the loaf). But there are no 255 and 5004 in the Internet shops, and in supermarkets the prices just go crazy. As a result, yesterday I bought an SD254 (the absence of a dispenser is not critical) and in the evening we had our first homemade bread. The main standard was baked, everything worked out the first time, very tasty and airy !! (as in the pictures by posts above).
Now we will buy email. scales and it remains to find a multicooker SR-TMB / H18 in Kiev.
natalka
Quote: Sirius

Now we will buy email. scales and it remains to find a multicooker SR-TMB / H18 in Kiev.

It is useless to look for a multicooker in Kiev. You need to sign up in the shops in line and you will be called back when your turn comes. Read Temko about multicooker, there are all the details.
Sirius
2 natalka

After reading the topic about the multicooker, I took care of buying it. By the way, I didn't have time a little, because while I was looking for a bread maker, I missed the opportunity to buy a multi on the same day. But anyone who is looking will find anything, but for 250-300 bucks, as it is sometimes sold now, I will not take it, because in July it was sold for 100.

2 musian

Thank you for your congratulations, tomorrow we will bake a kulit according to Elena Bo's recipe, I hope everything will be OK.
Lionsea
Can!!! I finally bought a bread maker! And this is Panasonic 255. I wanted this unit for a long time, but it still didn’t work ... and my husband said - why do we need it ... and suddenly))) went to the store and bought it !!! Uraaa! The oven is super, only there is really not enough window - I really want to see how it turns out there so that it turns out bread? But I understand that the dispenser had to sacrifice the window. In general, it bakes well, on the first day, when there was still store-bought bread, I compared it with KhPshny. Eh ... I didn’t think that we were being fed some kind of odorless and colorless paper ... My husband was also very surprised, and the final "approvals" followed ... (bought only because I really wanted to). HP was bought in the Electronic Paradise on Prazhskaya.
LaraN
Quote: Lionsea

HP was bought in the Electronic Paradise on Prazhskaya.

Congratulations! Good bought! I bought it in the fall in the same place. What's the price now?
Lionsea
Unfortunately, it is unrealistically overpriced - from 8 to 9 thousand We went around several tents, and everywhere there are either such high prices, or there are no Panasonic at all, only Mulky Baguettes ...
wasp
When choosing a bread maker, the seller said that the panasonic 255 is intended more for diet bread, products that require more fat are not obtained very well.
Who has a panasonic 255 bread maker, tell me is it true?
DainaFay
And what are those requiring more fat?
I bake different types of bread, almost all of them use butter (either vegetable or butter) - no problem.
And in comparison with what stoves did the seller give this out?
wasp
Bread maker Lg 205
TaTa *
The seller said nonsense, I bake cakes at 255, there is 100g of butter for 450g of flour, much more - it turns out great
anakrasnov
Bread maker Panasonic SD-255 5465.22 rub.
Online store
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Delivery cost in Moscow within the Moscow Ring Road:
- IS FREE.

Panasonic SD-255.jpg
Bread maker Panasonic SD 255 (part 2)
Natulchik
Hello! I bought a Panasonic-255 x / stove, and there in the instructions for it, the recipes say "Yeast - B and Yeast - R", how is this to be understood?
Cubic
This means the amount of yeast, for baking on accelerated mode (R) and on normal mode (B), for accelerated baking, yeast is taken twice as much (see recipe plates).
Elena Bo
Quote: Elena Bo

The recipe contains yeast-B and yeast-R. What is this yeast and should you put it together?
These are the same dry fast-acting yeast, but in different quantities. "Yeast - B" amount for regular baking (BAKE) and "yeast - R" amount for accelerated baking (RAPID).
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1500.0
greyzis
I saw recently (I decided to read the label) what bread is made of: margarine and "bread improvers" - I spat and ordered Panas 255 - 5900 + 250 delivery, I think it will not let you down, how much only good impressions did not come across with this technique)))
Akus
I used the Mulinex 2000 bread maker for half a year, it suited everyone, but this forum forced me to buy a Panasonic SD 255 !!! Satisfied, not the right word! In a word, Panasonic, he is also Panasonic in Africa !!!!
salolo
I bought this bread machine yesterday because of the gluten-free regime. I baked gluten-free bread, okay!
Akus
Moulinex 2000, in the process of kneading and raising the dough before the start of baking, makes 2 times (at the 40th and 65th minutes), a 10 second kneading of the dough in order to release gases, and I did not find this in the description for this oven. Please tell me, does the Panasonic SD 255 need this? Why?
Zhorzhevna
Akus , Panasonic also has a deboning of the dough in the main mode 2 times. But this is not written in the instructions ... I, as a user of Moulinex 2000, also first looked in the instructions for a minute-by-minute schedule of the mixing process. But, in Panasonic, apparently, it is impossible to clearly describe the minutes, since it depends on the process of temperature equalization.
Akus
Zhorzhevna thanks for the answer, I understood everything, but I immediately have one more question for you, as a "colleague" in Moulinex 2000. In my Moulinex 2000, the bucket stands very firmly, since, in addition to the lower stop, it is fixed at two points at the top, and here in Panasonic SD 255 this is not provided and for me it rumbles quite sensitively (of course in comparison with Moulinex 2000). Do you also?
Zhorzhevna
Akus , I have no special rumble. It happens that a creak appears. But I turn off the stove for a while, take out the bucket and turn it 180 degrees and put it in place. I turn it on and the program will continue. The creak disappears. There is a knock on the backlash of the stirrer.
Here is a Temka about a crash https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=4976.0
And here about the backlash of the blade https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=911.0
carry
Quote: salolo

I bought this bread maker yesterday because of the "gluten-free" regime. I baked gluten-free bread, okay!
Where did you get the gluten-free flour?
salolo
Gluten-free flour is sold in diet food departments.
carry
If you bought it in Moscow, you could not write in which store or chain stores
salolo
No, not in Moscow. In general, in Moscow, there are many places where you can buy gluten-free flour mixtures, for example: Online store Diet - a large assortment, courier delivery - 🔗
salolo
Suddenly someone will come in handy:
List of all companies and stores where you can buy gluten-free products

(this section is constantly updated).
Moscow
Chain of stores of baby food and goods for children (JSC "Firma Alexandra")
429-90-40, 429-90-30, 338-34-11
Fair "Konkovo", food market, st. Profsoyuznaya 126, bldg. 3
Agrika supermarket, st. Trade union, 128 bldg. 3
Supermarket "Angara", Olympic Village, Michurinsky pr. 4/3
Department store "Troparevo", Vernadsky pr. 105
Supermarket "Yasenevo", st. Vilnius, 5
Supermarket "Products", st. Kantemirovskaya, 5, building 5
Supermarket "Products", st. Artsimovich, house 13

Shop "Path to yourself"
257-08-87, Leningradsky pr., 10 A.

"Diet" Baby food store
754-75-00, Mitino, st. Dubravnaya, 40

Trading company "Maria", goods for babies
131-51-12, Leninsky pr., 78

Internet shop "Infant. Ru"
t. 746 22 11

Children's store "Children"
903-12-00, 907-26-20 (21), st. Sannikova, 13

Shop "Goods for children"
947 83 90, st. People's militia 21

Shop "Polish Fashion"
st. 26 Baku commissars 7-6

Supermarket "Leipzig"
st. Academician Vargi d. 8 bldg. 1

Supermarket "Bucharest"
st. Kakhovka 27.
St. Petersburg
Chain of stores "Children":
Glory ave. 12, building 1, Frunzensky district, 260-62-42, metro Moskovskaya, Kupchino
st.Sadovaya 32/1, Tsentralny district, 310-91-16, metro Sennaya square
stachek ave. 74/1, Kirovsky district, 184-97-08, metro station Kirovsky zavod
st. Narodnaya, 27, Nevsky District, 446-14-74, Lomonosovskaya metro station
V.O. Sredniy pr. 61 Vasileostrovskiy district, 321-49-87, metro Vasileostrovskaya
Leninsky pr. 115, Kirovsky district, 153-70-95, metro Leninsky prospect
23 Prosveshcheniya Ave., Vyborgsky District, 516-12-12, metro Prosvescheniya Ave.
st. Kollontai 28, Krasnogvardeisky District, 442-72-66, metro Ave. Bolsheviks
Bogatyrsky prospect, 5, Primorsky district, 393-11-00, metro Pionerskaya
st. Staroderevenskaya, 33, Primorsky District, 970-45-86, metro station Staraya Derevnya
28, Engels ave., Vyborgsky district, 244-10-51 Pionerskaya metro station
Ave Energetikov, 42, Krasnogvardeisky District, 225-36-85
Lunacharskogo pr. 104, Vyborgsky district, 596-5859, metro Grazhdansky pr.
Bolsheokhtinsky pr., 1, Krasnogvardeisky district (Opening in November)

Specialized store of gluten-free food "Dietproduct".
Lesnoy pr. 32, 541-81-86, Vyborgsky district, Vyborgskaya metro station,

Medical center "Vita Line"
Druskeninsky per. d. 2 / Furshtadskaya d. 12, 272-00-02, Central district, metro Chernyshevskaya,
Natural pharmacy
89 Veteranov Ave., Tallinn shopping center, 2nd floor, pavilion 48

Pharmacy chain "For you and mom" (corporation "Binko").
Blacksmith lane. 22, 162-59-08, Central district, metro Ploshchad Vosstaniya
Furshtadskaya st. house 18, 275-45-55, Central district, metro Chernyshevskaya
st. Dekabristov d. 32, 311-02-52, Tsentralny district, metro Sennaya square
Zagorodny pr., 28, 113-29-23, Central district, metro Vladimirskaya
Pharmacy "Beauty and Health".
Glory Ave. 21, 327-04-76, Frunzensky district, metro Kupchino, Moskovskaya

Baby food store "Petropol".
23 Veterans ave., 158-15-11, Kirovsky district, metro Veterans Avenue

Stores "Diet 18"
96 Stachek ave., Kirovsky district, Avtovo metro station.
st. Sadovaya, 38, Tsentralny district, metro Sadovaya

Pharmacy "New"
Kosygina ave. 26, Krasnogvardeisky district, Ladozhskaya metro station

Pharmacy chain "Violet"
St. Bolshaya Monetnaya 10, t. 320-29-19, Petrogradsky district, metro Gorkovskaya
Spassky lane, 14, Central district
Etc. Stachek d.77, t. 184-79-11, Kirovsky district, Avtovo metro station.

Children's store "Pupsik"
Lensoveta street, 58, t. 126-20-32, Moscow district, metro Zvezdnaya

Shop "Victoria"
st. Frunze, 3
salolo
I haven’t figured it out yet with the stove, if you put all the ingredients, set the program, can you open the lid during operation? And the program does not go astray?
salolo
Does anyone on the forum have a gluten-free baking program? I would like to chat.
Admin
Quote: salolo

I haven’t figured it out yet with the stove, if you put all the ingredients, set the program, can you open the lid during operation? And the program does not go astray?

Find the answer here:

Illustration in photographs of the process of forming a bun and baking bread from Admin (the basics of baking from 28.06.08.)
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=4587.new#new

FORMATION OF WHEAT COLK. TIPS FOR BEGINNERS. ROMA
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&Itemid=26&topic=1502.0
salolo
Thank you. What about gluten-free flour?
greyzis
the only thing that surprised me was why they didn't put mittens on the stove
Uncle Sam
God be with them, with mittens!
I will complain in Matsushito-Denki why the set with the Panasonic SD 255 bread maker does not come with numerous relatives - the eaters of my creations !?
salolo
Something I have some kind of garbage is obtained from gluten-free flour. What's wrong? I put in the food (as stated in the instructions), choose the "gluten-free" program, then "start". I don't understand ...
Cubic
Quote: salolo

Something I have some kind of garbage is obtained from gluten-free flour.

Read more: what kind of "bullshit"?
True, I did not bake it from gluten-free, but I baked them 100% rye, it is also gluten-free. So, in this case, there is no kolobok as such, the gluten-free dough creeps up, at the end of the kneading it turns out to be a mess (the main thing is to resist and not add flour, otherwise we will get a brick at the exit) .... but the bread is nothing, delicious.
Probably you also need to check the ratio of flour to water.
salolo
That's right, the ratio needs to be correct. It turns out some kind of top, like a camel. Cracks, uneven all over. Maybe you need to knead longer? Well, nothing, I will learn over time, just a pity for flour, it is very expensive.
And rye flour is 100% gluten, it is strictly forbidden to persons with celiac disease (celiac disease in a daughter). But I agree that rye bread is very tasty!
greyzis
Quote: Uncle Sam

God be with them, with mittens!
I will complain in Matsushito-Denki why the set with the Panasonic SD 255 bread maker does not come with numerous relatives - the eaters of my creations !?
Well, don't tell me! do not pull bread out of the oven with your bare hands! here in the microwave Pansonik - I had mittens!
Aunt Besya
Dear owners of Panasonic-255, has anyone tried the "native" recipe from page 17 "Bread with bran" on the "rye" mode Confuses the amount of water 430 ml., It's too much. Maybe there is a mistake. I tried it, it turns out to be a mess. I can't even say how much flour I had to add, but a lot. Maybe there is a typo in my book!?!
natalka
I have not tried it, but I think that perhaps it is not a typo, since rye dough always turns out thinner and the bran absorbs a lot of water and not immediately, but after a while (it takes time to swell). I think you shouldn't have added flour. Now, if you baked according to the recipe and nothing happened, then you could talk about an error in the recipe, and you can only guess.
carry
I baked twice strictly according to the recipe and both times did not work. Water is also confusing.
Sveta
Girls, on the forum already wrote that there is a mistake in the recipe. We need 330 ml of water. Better yet, serums
Aunt Besya
Quote: Sveta

Girls, on the forum already wrote that there is a mistake in the recipe. We need 330 ml of water. Better yet, serums
Here you go! Another thing There was no point in confusing and hoping for something - there was not just a lot of liquid, but a Puddle of dough, like liquid semolina. It is unlikely that the bran would take it upon themselves. And the bread tasted good, the roof is small (by 0.3 cm approximately) concave. I think because of the water I didn't guess right
carry
I'll try today too. I also want to try bread and onions. in French dough, add only the fried onions, dry from the bags "Golden Onion"
3ay4ik
almost a year ago, the topic of errors in the book for Panasonic 255 was widely discussed. in another recipe there was a mistake, where something with orange juice, if I'm not mistaken. you can search if anyone is interested.
salolo
How to finish the bread if it is not finished? Timer to use?
Admin
Quote: salolo

How to finish the bread if it is not finished? Timer to use?

How could you tell if the bread was not finished?

Several variants.
1.if you know exactly what is raw inside, put in the oven at 180 * C until cooked (check with a temperature probe or a splinter)
2. in a bread maker, bread practically cannot be under-baked.
But if the crumb of bread is still wet or wet (soggy), another reason is possible - a lot of liquid, or if you made an addition of flour from wheatgrass (or flakes)

look here:

The amount of flour and other ingredients for making bread of various sizes.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1625.0

Try to observe the ratio of products and monitor the condition of the kolobok
flice24
Finally, we bought ourselves a Panasonic 255, filled up the food, put it on the Basic mode with additives. But the stove is silent, does nothing, only the timer counts down. What to do? Help! Is this really a marriage?
carry
do not worry, this oa sachalo evens out the temperature, look in the plate on the second page, there is an apisana what and when she does.

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