addresat
yalena, which is not to boast - the bread turned out with chicory, otherwise I am still waiting for the recipe - a bit approximately that we put down.
yalena
Reporting on my first days with Panasonic 2500

The first day:

As I already wrote above, my first bread (Zavarnaya from Panasonic) behaved somehow strange ...
I did everything strictly according to the recipe, weighed dry ingredients on a scale, liquid in a measuring cup, as a result, the "bun" turned out to be strange:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Added flour ...

The dough went well:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

The bread fell a little and was a little "goggle" inside ...

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)
*** yana ***
Winterthen you also need a cartoon. to help ... she very well makes such bread and bakes ...
yalena the flour bun was clearly not enough ...
addresat
yalena, I do the same with rye bread.
yalena
Second day!

I decided to cook your bread, but measure all products on the scales

Wheat-rye bread with chicory.

Kolobok pleased:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

The dough didn't rise as high as the first time (weird?).

The bread turned out to be good, only the roof moved down a little

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

Ate 800 g in one day
yalena
Quote: *** yana ***

yalena the flour bun was clearly not enough ...

It is clear what was missing, he could not even be called a kolobok

Quote: addresat

yalena, I do the same with rye bread.

Do you add flour? Or such a "smear" and bake?
*** yana ***
yalena on which program do you bake this bread?
yalena
Quote: Winter

so it's because of the baguettes? I don't need them in HP for nothing! bake if anything in the oven.
thanks for prompting!

You chose a model with baggets, did I understand correctly?
All HP with baguettes have such enormous power!

yalena
Quote: *** yana ***

yalena on which program do you bake this bread?

The first bread combined dumplings + dietary, and the second baked banally on the first program
addresat
yalena, well tell me - how much rye flour and chicory were put in bread? Pliz. Or is it a secret? And chicory is the one that is drunk ...
*** yana ***
The first bread combined dumplings + dietary, and the second baked banally on the first program
not. there is not enough time in this program to rise ... I make dumplings + proofing + after 30 minutes dumplings literally 15 seconds + rise and bake ... this is the best way ...
and I have chicory with echinacea ... generally cool! and flu prevention in a piece of bread!
politic
Quote: Ailen

I don't know what kind of dough you make and like, but try this:

300 g flour
1 tsp salt
250 ml boiling water

Install the program "dumplings". Pour flour and salt into HP, while it interferes with pouring boiling water in a thin stream at low speeds. Then let the dough rest for 15 minutes in a bag. Choux dough. Super! "Melts" in the mouth. I use the same dough for dumplings.

not a pro in kneading dough, but according to this recipe, the bun turned out to be very small, rest. the dough along the bottom, very sticky, then for about twenty minutes he stirred it with his hands .. maybe more flour was needed?
*** yana ***
politicmaybe for your stove this is a very small amount of ingredients ... in this case it should be so: everything will smear along the bottom ...
yalena
Quote: addresat

yalena, which is not to boast - the bread turned out with chicory, otherwise I am still waiting for the recipe - a bit approximately that we put down.

It turned out, but expected more
Probably because everyone praises Panasonic very much

Wheat-rye bread with chicory.

400 g coarse wheat flour
150 g rye flour
2 table. spoons dry chicory (Jackdaw)
1.5 teaspoon spoons salt
12 g pressed yeast diluted in 200 g warm water with a tablespoon of honey (2 spoons can be used, for those who like it sweeter)
100 g water
2 table. spoons with top sour cream
2 table. spoons rast. oils

I put the dry ingredients in a bucket, then liquid and poured out the diluted yeast last.
Baked on 1 program.

Next time I'll try to put the yeast on the bottom of the bucket under the flour, so as not to bother with breeding.
yalena
Quote: *** yana ***

not. there is not enough time in this program to rise ... I make dumplings + proofing

I, too, after the "dumplings" left to rise for 30 minutes, and then turned on the "dietary"
*** yana ***
on the diet one, too, there is not enough time for the last rise ...
yalena
Quote: addresat

yalena, well tell me - how much rye flour and chicory were put in bread? Pliz. Or is it a secret? And chicory is the one that is drunk ...

It's no secret, I just don't have time to write messages
Chicory dry! Like this:

Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

It is still there with malt, but I haven't seen it on sale for a year ...
yalena
Quote: *** yana ***

on the diet one, too, there is not enough time for the last rise ...

I got up gorgeous !!! I showed the photo above there
Rina
Quote: Winter

at all. very good advice - knead two portions of dough, thanks!
I just found out that I looked inattentively - Panas 2502 has the volume of the largest loaf of bread 1000 g ((and I thought that 1250 ... I want dispensers ...
but if you do, as you advise, kneading in turn, then the problem is solved!
Nema for scho

About volumes in Panasonic. Please note that 1250 g of ready-made bread is bread with a bunch of all sorts of additives (here one hundred grams, then one hundred grams (c) of raisins, seeds, etc.). The minimum load in Panasonic is 300 g of flour, the maximum is 600 g of flour.

All Panasonic buckets (like engines) have the same volume
Rina
In my 255 Panas, the "pizza" program (kneading and proving the yeast test) lasts 45 minutes, just kneading the dough with proofing (part of the bread cycle) 2:20.

I do not bake with leaven, but with dough - sleight of hand and no fraud. I kneaded the dough on the "pizza", let it distance in the same bucket, added the remaining products, set the "main" program. I think the same algorithm is possible with leavens. Even kneading the dough on a "pizza", letting it be spaced in the same bucket and setting the "baking" program is not all about manually kneading everything.
addresat
Regarding rye, I read that they do this: I turn on the pizza program and after the first kneading, they reset the program, leave the dough to come up for 1.5-2-3 hours (whoever suits it), and then turn on the baking for 1-1.5 hours.
yalena
Quote: addresat

Regarding rye, I read that they do this: I turn on the pizza program and after the first kneading, they reset the program, leave the dough to come up for 1.5-2-3 hours (whoever suits it), and then turn on the baking for 1-1.5 hours.

And I found my mistake when baking the first bread
After the dumplings regimen I wanted to put on "gluten-free", but I put, apparently, "main fast", I remember exactly that the program was 2
In general, I got confused!
I wrote down your advice
Thank you.
addresat
And yesterday I put in the rye sourdough. I also want to try to bake rye bread on sourdough.
yalena
Quote: addresat

And yesterday I put in the rye sourdough. I also want to try to bake rye bread on sourdough.

And I did not dare to do this time-consuming process!
Share your experience later!
lega
Quote: addresat

And yesterday I put in the rye sourdough. I also want to try to bake rye bread on sourdough.

Quote: yalena

And I did not dare to do this time-consuming process!
Share your experience later!

Girls, try it on ripe dough first. Easy, not confusing, teacher Viki cool! You can also make rye on ripe, and then maybe you will reach the sourdough.
Wheat bread on ripe dough (self-leavening).
addresat
Quote: lga

Girls, try it on ripe dough first. Easy, not confusing, teacher Viki cool! You can also make rye on ripe, and then maybe you will reach the sourdough.
Wheat bread on ripe dough (self-leavening).

Can you bake it in HP?
lega
Quote: addresat

Can you bake it in HP?

You can, you can ... read the topic, there they just baked everything ...
Winter
Quote: addresat

In all Panasonic they write the maximum size of a loaf of 1250, as a result, more than 1000 will not work. And at the expense of dispensers - just think - do you need them to pay more for them.

Well, it seems to me that it's like with extra. options for the car
I have a heated steering wheel, but my husband does not understand why he needs nafik ...
but I already appreciated the advantages of its presence)) and would not refuse.
still convenient, probably with a dispenser?
I cannot yet assess the need for it, since I have never dealt with bread makers.

Quote: *** yana ***

Winterthen you also need a cartoon. to help ... she very well makes such bread and bakes ...

I have been looking at them for a long time ... only there is nowhere to put it yet, you need to make an additional rack in the kitchen. and time to learn all the intricacies of its operation))
I should deal with the bread ...

Quote: yalena

You chose a model with baggets, did I understand correctly?
All HP with baguettes have such enormous power!


I understand now, thanks! I really don't understand why thin, small baguettes require so much power

Quote: addresat

And yesterday I put in the rye starter. I also want to try to bake rye bread on sourdough.

Share later! you are welcome!
only if you share, in which section to find you?
Winter
Quote: lga

Girls, try it on ripe dough first. Easy, not confusing, teacher Viki cool! You can also make rye on ripe, and then maybe you will reach the sourdough.
Wheat bread on ripe dough (self-leavening).

Even my dough doesn't rise for the second time ...
the leaven is great, and the dough is asleep. Eh, bread is not easy for me ...

Quote: addresat

You can read about sourdough here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=42973.0
yes, I know. just asked, where exactly will you share your experience))
yalena
Quote: Winter

I understand now, thanks! I really don't understand why thin, small baguettes require so much power

Because baggets in 2 floors are laid out, ten is needed for both the first floor and the second
yalena
Quote: lga

Girls, try it on ripe dough first.

For me, the whole point of sourdough bread is to completely get rid of yeast in baking bread ...
And yeast is used there ...
friend
Quote: yalena

And I found my mistake when baking the first bread
After the dumplings regimen I wanted to put on "gluten-free", but I put, apparently, "basic fast", I remember exactly that the program was 2
In general, I got confused!
I wrote down your advice
Thank you.
I'm confused too. Wheat-rye bread with chicory - knead in the Dumplings program, then let it stand for 30 minutes, and then turn on the Diet program. Did I understand correctly.
yalena
Quote: girlfriend

I'm confused too. Wheat-rye bread with chicory - knead in the Pelmeni program, then let it stand for 30 minutes, and then turn on the Diet program. Did I understand correctly.

NO!!!
It was I who experimented with the first bread.
I baked bread with chicory on 1 program (Main) !!!
friend
How much dry yeast to give?
lega
Quote: girlfriend

How much dry yeast to give?

2 teaspoons.
Winter
Quote: yalena

Because baggets in 2 floors are laid out, ten is needed for both the first floor and the second

well, now everything is clear for sure!
friend
In the instructions, I read that on the Panasonic website you can order additional forms for baking bread and kneading spatulas, but I did not see this on the website. Maybe someone already bought these forms for the Panasovnik 2500.
yalena
Quote: girlfriend

Maybe someone already bought these forms for the Panasovnik 2500.
And I'm wondering if you need a spatula for rye bread?
Is there a difference in kneading and quality of baked bread?
This is on condition that I am unlikely to bake 100% rye bread, now I put 60% rye flour as much as possible.
Vanya28
Quote: yalena

And I'm wondering if you need a shovel for rye bread?
Is there a difference in kneading and quality of baked bread?
This is on condition that I am unlikely to bake 100% rye bread, now I put 60% rye flour as much as possible.

The kneading process is, of course, different, the shoulder blades are raked in different ways, but when the dough is mixed and ready, there will be no difference in bread.
yalena
Quote: Vanya28

The kneading process is, of course, different, the shoulder blades are raked in different ways, but when the dough is mixed and ready, there will be no difference in bread.

Ie.there is no special need for an additional purchase of a scoop for rye bread?
Doesn't the bread taste better?
addresat
Quote: yalena

That is, there is no special need for an additional purchase of a spatula for rye bread?
Doesn't the bread taste better?

According to the recipe - rye dough is thinner than wheat. This is why the shape of the scapula is combed. I think that this will not affect the taste. And today my rye sourdough will be ready. How I bake bread - I boast.
yalena
Quote: addresat

How I bake bread - I boast.

Will wait!

And I still have a question about the 2500 batch?
Is there only one batch in the first main mode?
Yesterday I tried to follow her work, but I never got the second batch.
If he was, then no more than 5 minutes (I could have missed).
In my old HP I had a batch-rise-knead-rise-baking!
The perfect bread was made in three hours!
Is it wrong here?
addresat
Quote: yalena

Will wait!

And I still have a question about the 2500 batch?
Is there only one batch in the first main mode?
Yesterday I tried to follow her work, but I never got a second batch.
If he was, then no more than 5 minutes (I could have missed).
In my old HP I had a batch-rise-knead-rise-baking!
The perfect bread was made in three hours!
Is it wrong here?

And here, too. Yes, probably in all HPs. It is very good to trace this in the program of baked goods with raisins. Before the second kneading, the oven will start beeping for laying raisins, etc., and then the second batch will start.
yalena
addresat, thanks for the advice!
I'll put on the main one with raisins
So I just missed the second batch ...
ol4a
Hello!
We bought HP SD-2502. I opened the instructions - and in large letters - Remember! If connected to a network without protective grounding (neutral ground), an electric shock may occur!
We do not have zeroing in the network (except for the e / p-there is a connector only for it). Tell me, if you cook without grounding? How dangerous is it? I have small children, I am now sitting next to the instructions and the stove and I am worried in frustration.


sazalexter
ol4a As it seems to me, this is the firm's safety net and nothing more. I use HP without clean land, although I have it all plastic outside. Then throw the earth from the stove with a separate wire and build an outlet is not difficult. If you are so afraid
ol4a
Quote: sazalexter

ol4a As it seems to me, this is the firm's safety net and nothing more. I use HP without clean land, although I have it all plastic outside. Then throw the earth from the stove with a separate wire and build an outlet is not difficult. If you are so afraid
sazalexter, thank you so much for the quick response! I'm not, I'm not afraid 🔗, although the HP is wrapped in a metal sheet. We need to think about a better place for her. 🔗
Xoxotoushka
Quote: girlfriend

In the instructions, I read that on the Panasonic website you can order additional forms for baking bread and kneading spatulas, but I did not see this on the website. Maybe someone already bought these forms for the Panasovnik 2500.

I thought I could order a round bucket. I wrote to them. Horseradish! They only have the same buckets, that is, in case they wear out their
friend
Quote: yalena

addresat, thanks for the advice!
I'll put on the main one with raisins
So I just missed the second batch ...
If you understand these lifts and kneading, write. I also failed to calculate the first rise and the second batch.

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