Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502 (1)

I want to share my joy. I ordered a Panasonic SD-2501WTS stove in the Panasonic online store. Delivery across Ukraine by Ukrposhta is free. It costs UAH 1,573. Payment - upon receipt. For this, however, you have to pay about 20 UAH. As a result, we got 1600, that's $ 200. I once took an iron from them. There, prices for their products are the lowest of all, and delivery is also free. But this is for the residents of Ukraine, although I think that a similar site should be in Russia and everywhere.
I'm just happy. Libra will be presented to me on March 8th. In the meantime, I read your recipes and tips to be fully armed.

Tanya, happy for you! We are waiting for reports and impressions!

Tanya, happy for you! We are waiting for reports and impressions!

Thank you. The only thing that bothers you is the husband's reaction. He looks at me as if I’m sick. Like, they gave the fool a rattle and she is happy. Well, let's see how he sings, how he smells the smells.

I want to buy this particular Panasonic SD-2500WTS model without a dispenser, because I think the dispenser is not really needed, and the price increases significantly.
1. Perhaps I am wrong and the dispenser is badly needed? What is the sacred meaning of its application?
I really want to bake rye bread, but the SD-2500WTS model does not have a kneading and baking mode for rye bread.
2. Is it possible to knead and bake rye bread in SD-2500WTS by combining the available programs, or in some other way?

I want to buy this particular Panasonic SD-2500WTS model without a dispenser, because I think the dispenser is not really needed, and the price increases significantly.
1. Perhaps I am wrong and the dispenser is badly needed? What is the sacred meaning of its application?
I really want to bake rye bread, but the SD-2500WTS model does not have a kneading and baking mode for rye bread.
2. Is it possible to knead and bake rye bread in SD-2500WTS by combining the available programs, or in some other way?

Yuri5! Of course, you can do without a dispenser, if you like bread with raisins, nuts, etc., you will bookmark these products yourself., You can put it right away, but HP mixes the dough so well that these ingredients are also crushed. And you can add at the end of the batch, but you will need to control, then everything will be whole. If there is a dispenser, HP does it itself. You can bake rye in the main mode.

Well ... I bought it and brought home 2502 by myself. Beauty. Right now, the husband will bring sugar and the soul rushed to heaven

I want to buy this particular Panasonic SD-2500WTS model without a dispenser, because I think the dispenser is not really needed, and the price increases significantly.
1. Perhaps I am wrong and the dispenser is badly needed? What is the sacred meaning of its application?
I really want to bake rye bread, but the SD-2500WTS model does not have a kneading and baking mode for rye bread.
2. Is it possible to knead and bake rye bread in SD-2500WTS by combining the available programs, or in some other way?

You can even bake rye bread without a special program. And drop the raisins at the signal. Only one thing needs to be borne in mind, this will have to be done in your presence, you cannot put it at night. I have both a dispenser and a Rye mode in my HP ... I don't use ..
Only you can decide personally whether you need it or not. If you are not going to bake raisin rolls at night, then take SD-2500WTS, do not hesitate.

Tell me, in 2502 you can't bake muffins like bread at all? Well, like, he left everything and that's it. I had a function in Mula Sweet pastries and I never did anything manually ... I left everything and oops the cake is ready ...

Tell me, in 2502 you can't bake muffins like bread at all? Well, like, he left everything and that's it. I had a function called Sweet pastries in Mule and I never did anything by hand ...everything left and oops, the cake is ready ...

Why not? you can ... just put the smallest size and the lightest crust, otherwise it will be very tanned ..

I want to buy this particular Panasonic SD-2500WTS model without a dispenser, because I think the dispenser is not really needed, and the price increases significantly.
1. Perhaps I am wrong and the dispenser is badly needed? What is the sacred meaning of its application?
I really want to bake rye bread, but the SD-2500WTS model does not have a kneading and baking mode for rye bread.
2. Is it possible to knead and bake rye bread in SD-2500WTS by combining the available programs, or in some other way?

I have HP with a dispenser, I have never used it. If necessary, at the end of the batch I throw in raisins, candied fruits or whatever is needed and that's it.
There is a rye bread mode, but for me on this program there is not enough time for the bread to ferment, so I bake in manual mode, that is, I knead pizza on the mode, then I leave it for a couple of hours to come up, knead once, again give it to baked goods.
Therefore, I bought a new stove without bells and whistles 2500 - without a dispenser and rye bread.

Well ... I bought it and brought home 2502 by myself. Beauty. Right now, the husband will bring sugar and the soul rushed to heaven

Congratulations! We are waiting for your impressions!

I guess the dispenser is not really needed

And I ordered the 2501st, with a dispenser. Why not bake rolls at night? And I will also make a window in its place, as one craftsman advised from page 37. Many thanks to him for the idea. When necessary, I put the dispenser; when not, it’s interesting to peep through the window to see what’s going on there. And also in this model the Rye mode. Although they say that at 2500 you can dance with a tambourine and get around it, but better, shob boulo. But a yeast dispenser and a stainless steel case, as in 2502, are superfluous for me. The yeast will still be pressed, and fingerprints are visible on the stainless steel. My Clatronic pepper grinder is stainless, always dirty, I just wipe it off. Even though I love her.

And I will also make a window in its place, as one craftsman advised from page 37.

You just do not rush to redo ...
There are many ovens where there are windows, so people, on the contrary, cover them with foil. In Brand's new stove, users write to remove this window.
In HP and without a window, you can open the lid during mixing, and then it's useless, you still don't change anything.

And I will also make a window in its place, as one craftsman advised from page 37. Many thanks to him for the idea. When necessary, I put the dispenser; when not, it’s interesting to peep through the window to see what’s going on there.

dubious idea.

1. Nothing prevents you from spying on the process of kneading and proofing just by opening the lid. Let someone there be afraid of "breaking the thermal regime", but just think - did our mothers-grandmothers-great-grandmothers bake, observing the temperature regime with an accuracy of a degree? Nothing of the kind! Yeast dough, if it is correct, forgives a lot ... Even the fact that we will spy on it, even if at the time of proofing we clap with our palm or poke with our finger (clap, not completely doubt). Even a draft will forgive. Well, except that some types of muffins are not so forgiving ... I often have a stove open during kneading. And nothing - the bread turns out

2. But to get heat loss due to glass, or even worse - fragments during kneading is quite real. Let this be one chance in many thousands, but it is.

Here she is, my girl and her firstborn (put on a delay at night)

Here she is, my girl and her firstborn (put on a delay at night)

Well done! Congratulations!

dubious idea.

1. Nothing prevents you from spying on the process of kneading and proofing just by opening the lid. Let someone there be afraid of "breaking the thermal regime", but just think - did our mothers-grandmothers-great-grandmothers bake, observing the temperature regime with an accuracy of a degree? Nothing of the kind! Yeast dough, if it is correct, forgives a lot ... Even the fact that we will spy on it, even if at the time of proofing we clap with our palm or poke with our finger (clap, not completely doubt). Even a draft will forgive.Well, except that some types of muffins are not so forgiving ... I often have a stove open during kneading. And nothing - the bread turns out

2. But to get heat loss due to glass, or even worse - fragments during kneading is quite real. Let this be one chance in many thousands, but it is.

That yes, I, too, would not become so perverted over expensive equipment, especially which is under warranty.

That yes, I, too, would not become so perverted over expensive equipment, especially which is under warranty.

in fact, they do not seem to interfere with the construct, that is, this does not affect the warranty. But why so many body movements? Just for fear of opening the lid?

in fact, they do not seem to interfere with the construct, that is, this does not affect the warranty. But why so many body movements? Just for fear of opening the lid?

Yes, there the dispenser is removed (you remove the dispenser when you wash) and just put glass in its place (you can make a thick one so that there are no fragments), And if it turns out that this affects the crust and the baking result, just take it and throw it away this is glass and everything remains as it was. And if you need to bake according to the program with raisins, then remove the glass and put on the dispenser. Nothing will be picked and sawed on the stove itself. By the way, I read that many people choose stoves without a dispenser precisely because with it the top of the bread is pale compared to the sides, although I do not claim that this applies to Panasonic.

And also such an unusual question. What water is best for baking - from a filter jug ​​(Aquaphor), disinfected with silver ions (won't these ions suppress the activity of yeast?) Or water after a reverse osmosis filter (where it is demineralized, almost distilled). There is another option - running water from the tap, but I think this is a bad option.
Oh, sorry, perhaps this question is better to ask in another section. Moved it to https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=162851.new#new

And also such an unusual question. What water is best for baking - from a filter jug ​​(Aquaphor), disinfected with silver ions (won't these ions suppress the activity of yeast?) Or water after a reverse osmosis filter (where it is demineralized, almost distilled). There is another option - running water from the tap, but I think this is a bad option.
Oh, sorry, perhaps this question is better to ask in another section. Moved it to https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=162851.new#new

I pour from a jug - she's there I always have room temperature

And also such an unusual question. What water is best for baking - from a filter jug ​​(Aquaphor), disinfected with silver ions (won't these ions suppress the activity of yeast?) Or water after a reverse osmosis filter (where it is demineralized, almost distilled). There is another option - running water from the tap, but I think this is a bad option.
Oh, sorry, perhaps this question is better to ask in another section. Moved it to https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in..._smf&topic=162851.new#new

And I use water after a reverse osmosis filter, and sometimes bread "jumps out" of the bucket

But I did it twice and twice I had to shake out the bread ... why? Although the bread itself turned out great

And I always bake bread with whey. I make cottage cheese every day for my child - there is always a lot of whey left.
And about shaking out - it should be shaken out. If you do not shake it out immediately, but wait a little, then it will fall out itself.

And I use water after a reverse osmosis filter, and sometimes bread "jumps out" of the bucket

With or without mineralizer?

Here she is, my girl and her firstborn (put on a delay at night)

Questions about standing HP on the windowsill:
1. I also have a plastic window sill, will it break under HP. He's kind of flimsy with me. She crushed it with her hand - she bends slightly. Not like the previous concrete one. How do you - do not bend?
2. It's winter now. It's cold on the windowsill. From the glass it pulls directly cold. And next to it, the sash also opens slightly for ventilation. It's cold, however.Will HP cope with such conditions? Do you have it on the windowsill during the warm season or what?

Questions about standing HP on the windowsill:
1. I also have a plastic window sill, will it break under HP. He's kind of flimsy with me. She crushed it with her hand - she bends slightly. Not like the previous concrete one. How do you - do not bend?
2. It's winter now. It's cold on the windowsill. From the glass it pulls directly cold. And next to it, the sash also opens slightly for ventilation. It's cold, however. Will HP cope with such conditions? Do you have it on the windowsill during the warm season or what?
3. Doesn't the plastic of the window become deformed and yellow from the heating of the HP?

Questions about standing HP on the windowsill:
1. I also have a plastic window sill, will it break under HP. He's kind of flimsy with me. She crushed it with her hand - she bends slightly. Not like the previous concrete one. How do you - do not bend?
2. It's winter now. It's cold on the windowsill. From the glass it pulls directly cold. And next to it, the sash also opens slightly for ventilation. It's cold, however. Will HP cope with such conditions? Do you have it on the windowsill during the warm season or what?

I won't say anything about the endurance of your windowsill ... And about the temperature regime ... Panasonic must cope!
sazalexter wrote in one thread ..https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=167.0

Questions about standing HP on the windowsill:
1. I also have a plastic window sill, will it break under HP. He's kind of flimsy with me. She crushed it with her hand - she bends slightly. Not like the previous concrete one. How do you - do not bend?
2. It's winter now. It's cold on the windowsill. From the glass it pulls directly cold. And next to it, the sash also opens slightly for ventilation. It's cold, however. Will HP cope with such conditions? Do you have it on the windowsill during the warm season or what?

My windowsill is strong, because it is also tiled down from it. In general, it does not sag if I press on it. At the expense of standing in the winter, I consulted at the Panasonic center and they told me that it is possible. I won't say that it’s just so cold from the glass ... I also keep the blinds closed, so it's okay.

[Mona1]

Mona1 Tanya, it is better that the stove is on a hard surface. During kneading, it can stagger slightly - see that it does not fall from the windowsill. And then I read some of the housewives even serve HP from the table in some way ...

after the repair, the stove began to move along the tabletop. The solution is very simple - I put a silicone mat under the stove, which is used for baking.

Yes, in general, it is somehow dumb to put a stove on the windowsill. Better to put it on the floor.

Yes, in general, it is somehow dumb to put a stove on the windowsill. Better to put it on the floor.

Why is it dumb? I have a wide window sill, the oven does not run on it, I also put a chopping board under it.

No, on the floor such a beauty - no way. I have a table here with my microwave on it. If you unfold it, then the HP will just stand on a free piece of the table, even a gap of 5 cm between them will be. But here the question is immediately: if HP works, will it be possible to use a microwave? She's old and I'm not sure that she does not let harmful waves pass. And they kill all living things (I, for example, sterilize jars for making yogurt) So, won't they kill yeast fungi or even just slow down their work if bread is being prepared at this time?

No, on the floor such a beauty - no way. I have a table here with my microwave on it. If you unfold it, then the HP will just stand on a free piece of the table, even a gap of 5 cm between them will be. But here the question is immediately: if HP works, will it be possible to use a microwave? She's old and I'm not sure that she does not let harmful waves pass. And they kill all living things (I, for example, sterilize jars for making yogurt) So, won't they kill yeast fungi or even just slow down their work if bread is being prepared at this time?

Nothing will happen.The main thing is that they are not included in one outlet, but that there is a possibility of burning HP.

By the way, I was just reading a thread about the choice of scales, so there is one person wrote about his scales "Next to a working microwave, the display goes crazy - the numbers start to jump chaotically from 0 - 700 grams. The further you move away from the working microwave oven, the the numbers on the display jump to a lesser amount. Two meters from the microwave oven, the sensor is almost not fooling. " And now I'm wondering if my Panasonic will fail. And then suddenly brains mind for mind will go from close proximity to the microwave. Admit it, who has HP side by side with the microwave. What can you say about this?

And now I'm wondering if my Panasonic will fail. And then suddenly the brains mind for the mind will go from close proximity to the microwave. Admit it, who has HP side by side with the microwave. What can you say about this?

I'm not very close, but through a slow cooker ... so far everything seems to be fine ... both with HP and with cartoons. But, if you are really afraid, then do not turn on the mikra when the HP is working.

please help with the choice (write in a personal, so as not to clog the topic), who understands email. slabs .. chose two models Bosch HCE 744260 R and Gorenje EC 63399 DBR, in this technique "layman" ... or can someone offer their own version in this pricing policy (color needed black)
p.s. I apologize for the offtopic, it's just that this is the only forum where I "live"))

[politic]

politic The slabs live here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=1914.0 I chose induction for myself, I am very satisfied, the beast and not the stove

A question for super-mega bakers. I put the cake to bake right now. I poured raisins and candied fruits into the dipenser. At a certain time, the dispenser rumbled, but nothing spilled into the dough. And the second moment, when candied fruits poured out into the bowl, such a rumble first began that I was afraid that they would scratch the bucket for me, right now it’s just a month old. Two questions ..... why the dispenser did not work, I had to empty everything manually and will the candied fruits scratch my coating?

[Mom]

Mom, if the raisins were wet, they could just stick together. Be sure to sort out candied fruits (like raisins) to exclude pieces of seeds and pebbles. Alas, all this can end up in baked goods. Raisins need to be washed, and then choose from free water - pebbles and sand will settle to the bottom. Dry the washed raisins with a towel (kitchen or paper) and roll in flour, then it will not stick together. I pour flour into the dried raisins, mix and put the raisins in a strainer, sift out the excess flour.

[Mom]

Mom, if the raisins were wet, they could just stick together. Be sure to sort out candied fruits (like raisins) to exclude pieces of seeds and pebbles. Alas, all this can end up in baked goods. Raisins need to be washed, and then choose from free water - pebbles and sand will settle to the bottom. Dry the washed raisins with a towel (kitchen or paper) and roll in flour, then it will not stick together. I pour flour into the dried raisins, mix and put the raisins in a strainer, sift out the excess flour.

Thank you. Next time I'll do it ... the first cake is lumpy
I'm more worried that the candied fruit would not scratch my bucket.

All the same, candied fruits slightly scratched the bottom ... traces are visible - tracks (not deep, but like on the surface) ..... I'm upset, just kick-ass. And now what i can do?

It is a pity, of course, I sympathize, but it will not affect the performance of the stove. Over time, traces of exploitation appear on any thing.

Sweet butter bread with raisins

Dry instant yeast - 2.5 tsp or 15g fresh yeast
Wheat flour - 450g
Salt - 0.5 tsp.
Eggs - 3 pcs.
Sugar - 6 tbsp. l.
Vanilla sugar - 1 bag
Vegetable oil - 6 tbsp. l
Raisins, dried apricots, apples - full dispenser
Milk (water) - 100ml

Sprinkle yeast on the bottom of the bread maker's bucket, sift flour on top, add other ingredients, last of all milk (water).
Bake in the Basic program, the Baking with raisins mode, medium crust.

I baked bread according to this recipe yesterday. I have a Panasonic 2500. The bread is thick, the sides are burnt. I added raisins and chopped dried apricots -150 gr. To the filling. The bread tastes delicious. What's my mistake?

Friend, you have no mistake.It's just that a large amount of sugar + milk gives a strong fry, I make such baking prog. the dough is then baked separately. It turns out less burnt. But even if you put a light crust, the bread is very fried.

I baked bread according to this recipe yesterday. I have a Panasonic 2500. The bread is thick, the sides are burnt. I added raisins and chopped dried apricots -150 gr. To the filling. The bread tastes delicious. What's my mistake?

To make the bread softer, adjust the flour / liquid balance, kolobok.

Read about the laying of dried fruits here Preparing seeds, grains, fruits, berries for laying in bread dough https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136698.0, if you did not pre-process them, then dried fruits could take liquid from the dough.

[Admin]

All the same, candied fruits slightly scratched the bottom ... traces are visible - tracks (not deep, but like on the surface) ..... I'm upset, just kick-ass. And now what i can do?

Don't be upset. Next time, do fruit preparation as advised Admin... I still have an old bucket cover in Panasonic. But also very quickly scuffs from bread appeared - apparently from a crust when bread fell out of a bucket. I was also very upset. And now - after a year of continuous work - there are also scratches on the bottom and on the shoulder blade. But the coating on the bucket can be seen plump - the color of the scratch has not changed. Of course, it does not affect performance. But as they say - nothing is eternal. It's good at least that the completing buckets and scoops can be purchased separately over time.

[addresat]

addresatThank you very much for your support, it really became easier for me. Only I did not understand how to prepare candied fruits (ready-made, purchased). They are solid. Do they need to be soaked too?

[tat-63]

To make the bread softer, adjust the flour / liquid balance, kolobok.

Read about the laying of dried fruits here Preparing seeds, grains, fruits, berries for laying in bread dough https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136698.0, if you did not pre-process them, then dried fruits could take liquid from the dough.

I pre-soaked dried fruits in boiling water.
tat-63 Thanks for clarifying.