Svetik_
Anastasia I don't even know ..... which model, that's when they finally say that they can't bring it, my model is one and must go to another supplier, but if they knock it out for Donetsk, then it's mine, and if not, then Whirlpool remains ... which is available, I was surprised that there was nothing to choose from at all
Anastasia
Quote: Svetik_

my model is one and should go to another supplier, but if they knock it out for Donetsk, then it is mine, and if not, then Whirlpool remains ... which is available, I was surprised that there was nothing to choose from at all

Svetik, I will keep my fists for you! I really hope that the saga with the purchase will end with a result that suits you!
Anastasia
Quote: Svetik_

Yes, thank you very much ... today we were just all shocked by the presence of models

Something I, after today's shopping in our local shops in Butovo, am not surprised! My daughter asked me to buy her all sorts of kitchen gadgets, small things, she is now separated from us to live with the groom, and with the arrangement of the kitchen, it’s bad business, the bachelor didn’t need such things. I went shopping and there, where they had previously been in a huge selection, the choice was almost gone. We'll have to expand the search circle ...
milena20111984
help, please, advice when I came to your site was aimed at a not very expensive Bosch for 23 thousand model SRS45T62, but I read a bunch of negative reviews about Bosch and smoothly began to look closely at Beko. now there are discounts in eldorado and we are targeting this store, but there is only one representative of BEKO DFS 6830. but the price is almost 2 times lower than Bosch
As for the functions, everything seems to be very interesting, there is even a half load, but it does not even smell of any data about aquastop or aquasensor, no water hardness should be set, there is no question of a heat exchanger and there is also a turbo drying ... I stalled and I do not understand, what to choose, help me please
Anastasia
Quote: milena20111984

smoothly began to look closely at the beko. now there are discounts in eldorado and we are targeting this store, but there is only one representative of BEKO DFS 6830. but the price is almost 2 times lower than Bosch
As for the functions, everything seems to be very interesting, there is even a half load, but it does not even smell of any data about aquastop or aquasensor, no water hardness should be set, there is no question of a heat exchanger and there is also a turbo drying ... I stalled and I do not understand, what to choose, help me please

There is a site VEKO 🔗 But another thing surprises me - that it does not have this particular model, unfortunately. In close to this model, the 6832 Aquastop is called Aquasensor. Maybe you have a 5830 model?
🔗
It also has Aquastop. And in general, a decent model, judging by the description.
milena20111984
here is that 6830 ... it is not in the beko (on the site, I mean), which also surprised me. but my husband said that maybe this is normal
zvezda
I don't know what city you are from, but look here 🔗] https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/s-image/3031/katalog/products/posudomoechnye-mashiny/uzkie/?&catid=20052&ext_custom_1200=Beko&search_subcats=1&action=search&pf=1
I bought a 5830A a month ago and am very happy so far.

Direct, "clickable" links to external resources are prohibited by forum rules! Therefore, the link has been fixed to not clickable!
Hairpin
Quote: milena20111984

help, please, advice when I came to your site was aimed at a not very expensive Bosch for 23 thousand model SRS45T62, but I read a bunch of negative reviews about Bosch and smoothly began to look closely at Beko. now there are discounts in eldorado and we are targeting this store, but there is only one representative of BEKO DFS 6830. but the price is almost 2 times lower than Bosch
As for the functions, everything seems to be very interesting, there is even a half load, but it does not even smell of any data about aquastop or aquasensor, no water hardness should be set, there is no question of a heat exchanger and there is also a turbo drying ... I stalled and I do not understand, what to choose, help me please

And here I am, among my acquaintances, almost a dishwasher guru (to become a cool guru in any issue quickly, you just need to find a society that does not understand anything about this issue at all. This is how it is with me.) And to the first question, how narrow freestanding, I would recommend, began to promote Veko DFS ... or 58 or 68. In principle, it doesn't matter which one.

Star, glad it came in handy!
Tanyusha
Milena 20111984 read the characteristics of your machine, it says that there is a leakage protection function and the water hardness must be set by itself, I have not electronic hardness setting in my BOSCH either, but I didn’t even touch the hardness, but I didn’t even touch the hardness at the factory. and worth it, it suits me. And why do you need a heat exchanger if there is a turbo dryer:
Drying with streams of warm air.
Heated air stirred by a fan
dries dishes quickly, guaranteeing
great result.
Hot, moisture-laden air moves
into the air intake, where it condenses on its walls,
and the remaining water is drained into the drain.
milena20111984 if you like the machine and everything in it suits, then take it.
milena20111984
Thank you very much! Yes, I kind of like it, the price is just amazingly small. reviews climbed on many sites. there are a lot of bad and a lot of good ones, as I understand who is as lucky or who has a lot of complaints. I just can't decide if I'm doing the right thing, that I'm saving on this. though if you say that Bosch takes the main thing for the brand, then here is the answer to the question. I'm sorry, I've tortured you already, but don't you tell me, I don't really understand, which one seems to you better Beko DFS 6830 or 5830? I don't understand them at all, I can't imagine how I will approach her later
milena20111984
oooh, I called this beko to explain to me how these 2 models differ, they say nothing, the current display is in 5830-digital, and in 680 mini-LCD, and so they all are the same. And who to believe on the sites says something completely different, that 58 is more sophisticated and there is a half load, and in 68 there is no floor. downloads and a lot of negative reviews, oooh
Anastasia
Quote: milena20111984

oooh, I called this beko to explain to me how these 2 models differ, they say nothing, the current display is in 5830 digital, and in 680 mini-LCD

I would take 58 in that case.
sazalexter
milena20111984 You shouldn't buy Beko, surf the Internet if you don't want a headache 🔗
🔗
🔗
🔗
Tanyusha
milena20111984, I would also take 58, but at 68 the noise level is lower, although I also have 51 dts and it does not bother me.
Anastasia
Quote: tanya1962

milena20111984, I would also take 58, but at 68 the noise level is lower, although I also have 51 dts and it does not bother me.

On my Whirlpool, either 54 or 57 is audible, but not annoying.
Svetik_
Anastasia and what is the model of your Whirpula ??? Give pliz a link
Anastasia
Quote: Svetik_

Anastasia and what is the model of your Whirpula ??? Give pliz a link

ADP 5966 & modelid = 229155 & clid = 502

but I have it old and just such a model is not on sale now.
Boo Boo
Quote: tanya1962

And why do you need a heat exchanger if there is a turbo dryer:
I don't like turbo drying. It dries worse than condensation and makes noise.
aynat
Svetik_ , Are you interested in 45cm or 60cm?

I have such a PMM 🔗, But it is fully installable. There is no accuracy in the description - the use of 3in1 means - no, 70 degree programs - 2 (one - "hygienic" - like when strangers or sick people are in the house) + auto-program. There is aquastop. Virpula has an aquasensor - it's called the 6th sense.

milena20111984,

The 5830 has an aquastop, the Beko 5830 also has an aquasensor, since there is an AUTO program. Virpulas are assembled at the same plant in Turkey as BEKO. The programs of Beko 5830 and my Whirlpool are one to one, and the instructions are exactly the same. By the way, Whirlpool has very good instructions for embedding, even a child will figure it out there - a whole book is detailed.+ Beko and Virpul have a test strip to determine water hardness. Beko has a 2-year warranty, Virpul has 1. The noise of Virpul is 48 decibels, in my opinion, quite quiet, you can hear it, of course, when it drains (this is for everyone), and when my deep pot is mine, it sounds like milking. Beko has 5830 - 51 dB. The price for them differs by 2t. R.

Anastasia
Quote: aynat

Svetik_, Are you interested in 45cm or 60cm?
BEKO interests another person - milena20111984
aynat
Here Beko and Whirlpool are compared. Personally, I have a Whirlpool ADG 789 45cm, so I asked about the size.
Hairpin
Quote: sazalexter

milena20111984 You shouldn't buy Beko, surf the Internet if you don't want a headache 🔗
🔗
🔗
🔗

But the first, third and fourth links are on the cheap line ... And we are talking about 58 and 68 models. But I already understood that there were problems with the service.
sazalexter
Boo Boo Turbo drying dries very well, otherwise the machines were not given class A for drying!
milena20111984
tell me, maybe Whirlpool after all? I'll go to the hump to watch them and look at the whirlpool then and I plan to order in the online store, though I'm so afraid of them
milena20111984
Quote: aynat

Here Beko and Whirlpool are compared. Personally, I have a Whirlpool ADG 789 45cm, so I asked about the size.

tell me, are you happy with her? I need 45cm, freestanding, but so that it can be shoved under the tabletop
Boo Boo
Quote: sazalexter

Boo Boo Turbo drying dries very well, otherwise the machines were not given class A for drying!
I have two dishwashers, I can compare.
Svetik_
Girls and boys .... I am personally only interested in 60cm, I already have custom-made furniture, so I won't change anything if Whirlpool is in Turkey ..... it's not good, I'm only happy with my Whirlpool with a refrigerator, but I haven’t seen a dishwasher and I don’t know ... but if they say that until the next 4 months there will be no supplies for free-standing ones at all, then I think that I will have to look at Whirlpool
aynat
milena20111984, I do not know what to even advise you, I still took Whirlpool, not Beko ..., from me fully installed, but the installation instructions are very good and the standard door from the Castoram kitchens (45) fit perfectly (that is, it is not a problem to build it in). I'm happy with my machine. True, I have it for another 4 months only.

Beko's service is strange - they need to call the hotline in Moscow, and they'll tell you what to do next ...

sazalexter
Boo BooCan the rinse aid dosage be set incorrectly?
Boo Boo
sazalexter I am an experienced user, probably 14 years of experience.
I already played with rinse aid and salt, before that it was completely disgusting to wash and dry.
Hairpin
Boo Boo!
It looks like you found a treasure 14 years ago and bought two dishwashers, one airfryer and all other appliances!
sazalexter
Boo Boo I don't doubt your competence, I just asked, anything can happen ... Open the secret, what kind of machine is this?
Tanyusha
milena20111984 if you go to the top and buy it right away, there are many online stores, the price difference is not very big, I bought a refrigerator like that, I just went to look, and returned with a refrigerator.
milena20111984
Quote: BooBoo

I have two dishwashers, I can compare.

oh, compare, please. oooh, I'm starting to smoothly flow to Whirlpool ...
Svetik_
The choice in Whirlpool is, of course, very meager ... I didn't choose something from what is, I need white, but I got silver, and those that are white. Do they really have few models ???
milena20111984 and you want a narrow one ???
aynat
Svetik_, look at here
🔗

It's just that they are somehow very little represented, maybe somewhere in the capitals there are a lot of them ...
zvezda
Quote: milena20111984

Can you tell me, I don't really understand, which one seems to you better Beko DFS 6830 or 5830? I don't understand them at all, I can't imagine how I will approach her later
I specifically studied these machines very meticulously, and I took the 5830A only because of the color (it is black) for me this is fundamentally important, but 68 is better, it has a very good Quick & Clean function, and the display and drying are even better there. I can't argue with someone about the brands, but I am VERY happy with my car, and I was also VERY confused by the price.
OlenaS
Quote: milena20111984

help, please, advice when I came to your site was aimed at not very expensive Bosch for 23 thousand model SRS45T62, but I read a bunch of negative reviews about Bosch and smoothly began to look closely at Beko. now there are discounts in eldorado and we are targeting this store, but there is only one representative of BEKO DFS 6830. but the price is almost 2 times lower than Bosch
As for the functions, everything seems to be very interesting, there is even a half load, but it does not even smell any data about aquastop or aquasensor, no water hardness should be set, there is no question of a heat exchanger and there is also a turbo drying ... I stalled and I don't understand, what to choose, please help

Almost a year ago, I myself was also tormented by doubts when choosing a dishwasher

Initially, I was guided by an inexpensive typewriter, such as indesite. I have an Indesite washing machine, I am quite happy with it, and since they are next to each other as a result, I thought that two Indesites would look good.
We live in our own house, which is not quite new. But there is water supply, although the system is also old. Well, we still live in a large team with relatives, so we needed a car
- large (I immediately dismissed the small ones, seeing their size "live"), because they love us very much to get the dishes dirty, but to wash them .... (now the machine works every day, or rather every night, rarely - 2 times. If there are guests, then 2-3 times a day)
- easy to use
- reliable, so that you can connect it without any problems, so that it works in the water supply system that is available
- not very expensive (we have not very neat personalities in our team, because if they scratch, bump or something else, so that it is not too sorry)
- and so up to 5-8 years so that it worked, without replacement (well, who knows, how long we will still be under construction, and I want a new typewriter for a new kitchen)
That is, it was necessary to find the optimal price (cheaper) -quality (better) ratio. In general, it is not easy. As a result, I chose a typewriter for 3 months.

First, I searched the internet according to the descriptions of functions - for my requests. Then we went shopping for a long time to revise cars from different manufacturers, to look inside and compare. The search turned out to be long: there were not enough equipment in the stores (and this is in Kiev!), As a result, I did not see the machine that I chose as a result until the moment they brought it to us.
Was definitely against VEKO. Why - I won't even say unequivocally, it was probably embarrassing that it was a Turkish brand.
BOSCH initially did not look at all because of the high cost. But looking in the store for the sake of interest in one of the machines, I realized that I didn't want it for nothing. I don't remember the model.
I considered everything: the number of programs, ease of operation, the number of holes on the water sprinklers (because of this, I unambiguously rejected either Zanussi or the Indesites - I don’t remember exactly - they had only 3 holes), the design of baskets, their ease of use, the possibility folding-unfolding or changing the level of baskets, the obligatory presence of a timer, etc.

In short, as a result of long elections, I finally settled on the CENTURY: for me, it turned out to be the best option available. We bought the DFN 6837 model. From their lineup I considered both the narrow DFS 5xxx and the full-size DFN 6xxx. They are all about the same filling, the difference is mainly in the programs. But the narrow one was definitely too small for us, and from what was available at that time - 6837.
As a result, I am very pleased with the machine. All other family members (especially the female part of it) are pleased that the problem of washing dishes by hand and in a bowl has disappeared. The husband is happy that there is one less problem, peace has reigned in the house))))
I am satisfied with the quality of the sink, BUT ... sometimes there are insufficiently washed things. But this is no longer the machine's fault: our mains voltage is usually 175-180, instead of 220 Therefore, I already know: the dim light of the bulbs in the evening, which means that the next morning, when unloading the machine, carefully review all the dishes.

What else to add ... I really wanted a half load. True, I used it several times But it does not justify itself on all programs: i.e.in fact, half the water consumption is not always used (I did not count electricity). Until we live as a separate family, we didn't really need this function.

I would also like to draw the attention of those who choose technology: in Russia and Ukraine, the lineup and the name of the models may differ slightly. It is better to get information from the official website of the manufacturer's representative in the country in which you will buy. Otherwise, this is how I chose a gas stove: in the version for Russia it comes with cast-iron grates (it was VERY important to me), but in Ukraine it is sold with steel grates. I had to buy the lattices separately. But I am also very pleased with the stove, and especially the oven, and 2 sets of grates will definitely not be superfluous

It is the same with VEKO cars: for Ukraine there is a model 6837, and for Russia there is a 6835 (in my opinion, so ...). And the BEKO DFS 6830 model, as far as I understand, is not: there is either BEKO DFN 6830 - full-size, or if it is narrow, then the number is not 6830. This information is from memory, so 100% accuracy is not guaranteed. Better to check with the manufacturer

As for the service: in Ukraine there is also such a system - in case of a breakdown, call the hotline of the representative office. And already they, having heard the information about the type of breakdown and taking into account your place of residence, determine the company that will deal with the repair. Works promptly!

And finally: in Ukraine, the manufacturer's warranty for the PMM CENTURY is 5 years. For other equipment VEKO - less. So, double-check in Russia, maybe you have the same. This I mean that someone wrote above about the duration of the warranty on the machine.
Svetik_
OlenaS I'll start with you ..... the warranty is not 5 years old, we received a piece of paper that the warranty on Beko is already 1 year, so don't dream too much, from June, in my opinion, the month of this year
aynat model Virpula 6946 is very cool, I liked it, but we don't have it ... if today they can say something definitive, then I will ask if we have one, and the manufacturing plant Turkey ... well, I don't like it , although ... if there is no longer a choice, then I will already see that there is something
aynat
BEKO
DFN - freestanding models 60cm
DFS - freestanding models 45cm
DIN - fully recessed 60cm
DIS - fully recessed 45cm

For example the 5830 has both freestanding and fully recessed 45cm and fully recessed 60cm. There are no differences in function between them.

The warranty in Russia for all large Beko household appliances is 2 years. If there were 5, then probably no one would even think about taking or not taking ...
aynat
Svetik_ , Not all Virpula models are assembled in Turkey, for example 60cm WP 79 - Germany is declared, so you need to look at a specific model.

P.S. When they were doing the repairs, the electrician praised the Turkish electrician very much (the small things are true, well, there are sockets ... Maybe they have nothing large electrical engineering? ..)
Svetik_
aynat yes, maybe so, but the model itself is very outwardly and I liked it so much, what the doctor ordered, if that
The prices will probably be high, I will at least check it on the internet
OlenaS
Quote: Svetik_

OlenaS I'll start with you ..... the warranty is not 5 years old, we received a piece of paper that the warranty for Beko is already 1 year, so don't dream too much, from June, in my opinion, the month of this year
At the end of September it was 5 years old. Both on the hotline and in service centers, and the repairman say the same thing. The warranty card contains the same information.
Svetik_
OlenaS and we already have it like this ...
Girls .... dear ...... ... we knocked out one single model of Electrolux from the Polish representative office, we defeated them, and now I will get mine in two weeks .......
Our importers ... in general are at a loss why one car just went to Europe and initially wanted to send it to another country ..... and here we are ........ Now they have calmed me down and I will sleep peacefully. We fought with the representative office of Electrolux for a long time, until we found out how much, well, now everything ... you will see that after I receive mine, the normal delivery of all brands to Ukraine will go
milena20111984
Quote: Svetik_

The choice in Whirlpool is, of course, very meager ... I didn't choose something from what is, I need white, but I got silver, and those that are white. Do they really have few models ???
milena20111984 and you want a narrow one ???

yes, I need a narrow, freestanding, but so that it can be shoved under the tabletop
sazalexter
Beko's warranty in Russia 2 years 🔗
PS I remember the 5-year "warranty" of the power tool "German" company DWT
milena20111984
I looked at the whirlpool. prices under 20 thousand, taking into account that the Bosch 23 thousand is worth, I don't understand what to do, and actually rummaged through the Internet very little about the 45cm whirlpool, detached and not reviews, nothing how to be ...
beko, whirlpool or bosch
I just want the soap to be good and not break, I didn't think it was so hard to choose
Does Beko have problems with the service center?
Bosch told me such problems too
horror
what to choose
and where to order, to be lucky
milena20111984
found the only whirlpool ADP 658 WH on the whirlpool website, suitable for me in terms of parameters-45cm, freestanding, but there is nothing in it, no 6th sense, no 0.5 load, no child protection, functions are not enough ... oh, it's easier to list , what is. what to do
Boo Boo
Hairpin, I love the technique very much. As soon as I found out about the dishwasher, I immediately bought it. I searched all over Moscow, there were no dishwashers anywhere. The airfryer was brought from the United Arab Emirates by my friend. She cooked something in it a couple of times and decided to sell it. Why he told me then I did not know, but out of curiosity I bought it. All this was a very long time ago, about 14 years ago.
milena20111984 I already wrote it somewhere. I like the old car much more. She does not have any additional programs. Condensation drying. Much more fits into the baskets than into a new one. In the old one on the bottom shelf, I place pots, pans, etc. On the top on one side of the plate, on the other side cups and glasses + a basket for spoons and forks. Small cups are placed on the top fold-out shelves. Everything washes in it cleanly and dries dry.
In the new turbo dryer, it dries clearly worse and also makes noise. There are additional programs, but I don't really use them. I never turned on half the load in a year. Inconvenient baskets. On the upper shelf, the plates are poorly placed, I had to arrange the plates on the lower one. The large ones did not fit there and I moved the upper basket higher. As a result, mostly cups and bowls are washed in the top. You can't put a basket with spoons there, it doesn't fit in height. The folding shelves are inactive, sometimes I put large knives on them, nothing else fits, again because of the height. But on the lower one you have to put plates, a basket for spoons and plus more pots and pans. Naturally, all this does not fit. Although the manufacturer declared an increased capacity, I can stick much more into my old woman. The lower basket sometimes catches the sealing gum and it jumps out of the grooves. We have to refuel it. Washes the dishes worse. I was reassured here on the forum, they said that you just need to get used to it. It took me a whole year to get used to it, and this summer we connected my old dishwasher at the dacha. I had to remember a little how to arrange the dishes there ......... and I was once again convinced how much the old woman is better.

sazalexter This is not a mystery at all. Old lady Kandy and new Kaiser.

Svetik_
Boo Boo this is how they smashed the new bells and whistles, I agree with you that the old technique is sometimes better, and if bought in those days, then the quality was accordingly good, and now we are chasing prestigious brands, but they turn out to be not so good, I'm here already wrote that Bosch is vaunted ....... only it also has a lot of marriage, elementary things, which would seem for them not at all forgivable, take any brand and can be criticized, but we still fall for all the bells and whistles and we think that this is not the case with us, and we want to believe that the equipment will serve faithfully.
I myself am a maniac in technology, I would have bought everything, but now I am looking at the most necessary

All recipes

New recipe

© Mcooker: best recipes.

map of site

We advise you to read:

Selection and operation of bread makers