pushkar
Quote: Vei
You can periodically check the temperature of the combine with your hand and listen to the sound.
And what can be determined.
I don't have more than a kilogram of flour. I think it will.
Musenovna
Quote: pushkar

And what can be determined.
I don't have more than a kilogram of flour. I think it will.

The instructions have a limitation on the amount of flour of different types of dough. Better to stick with.
Vei
The question is not even the amount of flour, but the stress-free working time. It is clear that no one plans to overload by weight, but it was not clear in time. I replied that I had been kneading for half an hour or even a little more without tension, even with a large load in terms of weight and quality of the dough.
And most of all, I am not overjoyed at the quiet sound during work! After this wild beast - Gastrorag, for me Kesha is almost silent))) in any case, I work at night (or rather Kesha works))) and do not bother anyone!
Zhanik
Does KM-086 bother me alone as a dough mixer? In my case, he shakes his "head" and "nods" with a steep dough, even in not the largest amount ((((OH is very good for me and is indispensable in all other operations ... but as a kneader (precisely in the concept of TEST)), I would 3- delivered
Musenovna
Quote: Zhanik

Does KM-086 bother me alone as a dough mixer? In my case, he shakes his "head" and "nods" with a steep test, even in not the largest amount ((((OH is very good for me and is indispensable in all other operations ... 3- delivered

I have the same situation. I usually do the slowest speed. I thought so on all Kenwoods, but what is only ours ?!
But it doesn't make it worse because of this, so well, not 3 for sure. I even kneaded the gingerbread dough in a fairly large volume. Still alive.
Zhanik
Well, I don’t know ... somehow a unit for that kind of money ... more was expected ... After all, its biggest advertisement is precisely as a dough mixer ... as a result, my HP Mulka plows on kneading ... and This intellectual does fine work ... Roll out, cook ... In general, either Lord, or Senor ... got confused in his story ... But I'm really unpleasantly surprised and disappointed. It's just that at Lazerson's master class I saw Kesh ordinary (without induction), so they are workhorses there ... like frogs from a mapet show ... they dance-sing both right and left and up and down ... (in the sense of being loose already to the ground) on the one hand, they would be happy-hardy ... but I don't want to see SUCH in my kitchen for SUCH money
Olga VB
I'm fine, doesn't shake or nod ...
True, I did not knead bread dough for more than 1 kg of flour, but I can handle it without problems. TTT
Zhanik
Well, then I have a problem (((backlash horror ((((what kind of KG are we talking about !!!! 500 grams of flour with a hook ... I hold his head to the ground ... Because the slave is trying to raise his kitchen boss ... The latch can barely cope. While holding. But with constant such kneading it will break into free floating ... And what else is attached to it from the electronics ... Even Mr. Kenneth Wood no longer knows, alas
Musenovna
Quote: Olga VB

I'm fine, doesn't shake or nod ...
True, I did not knead bread dough for more than 1 kg of flour, but I can handle it without problems. TTT

We're not talking about bread right now. With him and with the rest, not so cool, Kesha copes with a bang. But when steep (dumplings, homemade noodles, pies) or gingerbread is too heavy for him and he really "dances" as Zhanik described. Of course, I'm worried if it's okay, but setting the minimum speed, it doesn't seem to shake it like that. Therefore, he kneads, nothing remains for him. I bought it primarily as a dough mixer and mainly use it for such tasks. And without induction, it also shakes like that on a cool test ?!
Musenovna
Quote: Zhanik

Well, then I have a problem (((backlash horror ((((what kind of KG are we talking about !!!! 500 grams of flour with a hook ... I hold his head to the ground ... Because the slave is trying to raise his kitchen boss ... The latch can barely cope. While holding. But with constant such kneading it will break into free floating ... And what else is attached to it from the electronics ... Even Mr. Kenneth Wood no longer knows, alas

And you have it on all types of test ?! And what speed ?!
Olga VB
Maybe while there is a guarantee, go to the SC with him? It shouldn't be so.
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna

And you have it on all types of test ?! And what speed ?!

not at all, of course ... liquid, no problem. problems with steep dough, such as dumplings, pasta, etc.
Zhanik
Quote: Olga VB

Maybe while there is a guarantee, go to the SC with him? It shouldn't be so.

the warranty has ended the other day ... how much I tried to find out this year ... I realized that it was their "disease", but people somehow inactively admit ... because I am still in doubt ... or suspicious ( and I’m with them), either they don’t want to talk ... or there’s a bad game
I wish I could see whose video !!!!! When kneading hard dough! Well, at least a minute !!!! I'm ready to lay out ... just where? on YouTube? I went through it all a year ago ... give a link here? Tell me, pliz!

The instructions say "knead the cool dough in parts" ... this gave me the idea that they knew this problem
Musenovna
I am now on YouTube trying to look for a video where the dough is kneaded. Official on 010 and 020 the upper part shakes. Despite the fact that the shot is large and the bowl is mostly visible, it is noticeable that the "head" is shaking.
I will try to shoot a video when I knead such a dough. It would be interesting to see yours, Zhanik. Maybe it's okay ?!
I do not knead tough dough in large volumes. But he shakes with him.
Zhanik
here and mine shakes robustly ... and he squeals at these moments, or rather, as if seizing him ... Well, I do not cook in industrial quantities. The maximum that I poured was 800 grams of flour !!!!! With such power, it would seem childish babble ... but no ... I divide into portions, swear and knead in parts
Dr.NO
Ten sausages are less, due to the fact that the kneading organ is shorter, the shoulder is smaller. Come on, the Kitchens seem to have their heads off. These are not industrial machines. Even industrial kneaders, when kneading hard dough (dumplings, donuts, puff pastries, etc.), have a loading limit. Or use a different type of kneader - Z-shaped or "greedy hands", the latter is preferable.
Musenovna
You scared something completely.
So you can knead something ?! Not harmful ?!
Give so much money and now think whether you can use it or not.
Zhanik
Yes, I would be fine ... but when kneading noodle dough in 300 grams of flour and 3 eggs ... and hearing the hook hitting the bowl makes the machine howl for .... 1.5 euro euros, taking into account the sickly devaluation. .. well, it really bothers me ... but why the heck nozzles that you can kill ?? Stir pancakes ???
Dr.NO
Quote: Zhanik
like a hook, hit the bowl
Adjust its height.
Olga VB
Do you have a hook on a bowl? it shouldn't be so!
All nozzles must be adjusted, they should not hit the bowl, and should not hang far from it.
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna

You scared something completely.
So you can knead something ?! Not harmful ?!
Give so much money and now think whether you can use it or not.

from that is the question that I have not yet decided for myself. or rather decided by kneading in not the cheapest HP. It's just that at the same time it is several times cheaper than Keshenka (((((I have a little one only for delicate work so far)))))
I will be very, very grateful for any feedback on the induction model as a kneader !!!!! thank you in advance! and FORGIVE the owners of other models for the airtime!
Zhanik
Quote: Olga VB

Do you have a hook on a bowl? it shouldn't be so!
All nozzles must be adjusted, they should not hit the bowl, and should not hang far from it.

Yes. Beats! but having already wrapped the dough on itself .... and at this moment the machine begins to brake, and the head of the combine rises. This is not idle. This is exactly the kneading process. at idle, everything is fine !!!!
Dr.NO
This is a food processor, not a dough mixer.If you only need a kneader for tough dough, look at some miss baker thread. I don't remember the smallest one they have. I saw him many times at exhibitions, I don't know why, but the iPhone reminds me.
Zhanik
Quote: Dr.NO

This is a food processor, not a dough mixer. If you only need a kneader for tough dough, look at some miss baker thread. I don't remember the smallest one they have. I saw him many times at exhibitions, I don't know why, but the iPhone reminds me.

Kenwood is positioned exactly as a kneader !!!!! And the recipes in his books are mainly about dough. Our 080 model is yes! kitchen machine! And this is exactly what I want to understand! I have a marriage or all so ??? CAN he knead, how everyone screams and admires, or is it crap on this particular model or on all Kenwoods in principle ??? I cannot solve this problem for a YEAR. But then there were only a few of us. Here ... I'm trying to ask the "co-owners"
Musenovna
Quote: Dr.NO

This is a food processor, not a dough mixer. If you only need a kneader for tough dough, look at some miss baker thread. I don't remember the smallest one they have. I saw him many times at exhibitions, I don't know why, but the iPhone reminds me.

Well, not every day you make dumplings or make noodles. I want versatility. By default, he is still a kneader. And everything else is just extra. options.
Dr.NO
Quote: Zhanik
Kenwood is positioned exactly as
food processor
Dr.NO
Quote: Musenovna
I want versatility.
Universal is always worse than highly specialized. Axiom.
Musenovna
Zhanikif you can post the video. Well, so to speak, for clarity. You got me interested in this issue. I will also try to shoot in the near future.
Musenovna
Quote: Dr.NO

Universal is always worse than highly specialized.

So it is so, but I wanted a miracle! But it didn't seem to work. ((((
Where can I get so much space in the kitchen ?! So that only highly specialized.
Musenovna
And why is it that users don't knead tough dough on their Kenwoods ?! I read all the forum pages about this food processor before buying and am still reading it, but no one raised this issue here.
Dr.NO
ZhanikIf the dough is wound on a hook, it does not have enough weight to slide down. Or reduce the speed or add a little load. I had this on a dumplings. At 600 grams of flour it was wrapped, and at 700 everything was fine.
Dr.NO
I don’t know I have 010, at 800 grams of flour it starts to walk on the tabletop, my head does not wobble. I didn't pledge any more, there was no need.
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna

Zhanikif you can post the video. Well, so to speak, for clarity. You got me interested in this issue. I will also try to shoot in the near future.
OK! maybe even tomorrow))))
There is minced meat and dumplings, lasagna ... or something just meat in a ham maker
From the prospect of kneading the dough, quiet horror .... so that my husband does not hear)))) This is a joke, of course, but now to justify buying a kneader even just to take a place in the kitchen ....... I remember this purchase " "regularly .... and given a set of purchased attachments ...... Hyh ((((
Zhanik
Quote: Dr.NO

I don’t know I have 010, at 800 grams of flour, it starts to walk on the tabletop, the head does not wobble. I didn't pledge any more, there was no need.
that's the PROBLEM !!!!!!! The owners of 010, 023, etc., etc. do not complain, but applauded .... I have been looking for OWNERS for a YEAR 080 (086) !!!!! There was a clear feeling in the flaw of this particular model! But Olga writes that everything is OK with her! And again I was lost ((((
BUT!!!! Let me remind you again that Lazerson's Major and Chef are ordinary - they dance like chewing and singing frogs, and even knead with an open head ... But here ... the use is no longer household ... Our kitchen. his car is like new))) for the entourage (c)
Musenovna
Quote: Zhanik

OK! maybe even tomorrow))))
There is minced meat and dumplings, lasagna ... or something just meat in a ham maker
From the prospect of kneading the dough, quiet horror .... so that my husband does not hear)))) This is a joke, of course, but now to justify buying a kneader even just to take a place in the kitchen ....... I remember this purchase " "regularly .... and given a set of purchased attachments ...... Hyh ((((

They are like that.)))) I have a favorite nozzle-blender. He uses it almost every day, he is extremely happy. Therefore, he is silent.
But he flatly refused to buy a multicooker. )))) I'm working on.

I will also try to photograph it soon.
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna

They are like that. )))) I have a favorite nozzle-blender. He uses it almost every day, he is extremely happy. Therefore, he is silent.
But the multicooker flatly refused to buy. )))) I'm working on it.

I will also try to photograph it soon.

and mine thinks Cartoon is man's most important friend)))) loves her with all her heart .... she feeds him))) they have been friends with her for three years now))) and he is afraid of Kesha. Especially after breaking a couple of ceramic knives and getting a "hat" .... it doesn't fit at all)))) HE IS PASSED BY HIM !!!!! Complex, beautiful, irreplaceable))))
Olex
I have 84. The custard dough does great !!!! The only thing is that the oil needs to be added when it reaches 100s. (The temperature does not rise anymore - the liquid), and then + flour, mixed perfectly at 1 speed. Has cooled a little - added eggs. I'm glad I took it with induction. And how does she make custard !!!!

Eclair. Choux pastry recipe (double) -
2 tbsp. water 250 ml.
salt 1 tsp l.
oil drain 150 g. (when the water boils)
vegetable oil 50gr.
flour 380g. (added with a spoon)
Eggs - 8 pcs.
You will need to try a triple portion, there seems to be enough space.
Girls, and in what proportions do you make yeast dough (in the sense, how much should you take in total for a full bowl?)
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There is a cartoon too, Cuckoo 54, but these are different things
Zhanik
and I have a cuckoo 54 and 0821)))) things are different, of course. and HP is ... But the dough for eclairs, after all, this is not what I'm trying to understand ((((
I YEAR I want to find people who will tell me ... is LUFT acceptable with 300 grams of water and 520 grams of flour plus sugar, salt, yeast (white bread) .... You have it, just buzzes ??? Or does he "stick" sometimes, raise the boss? Chewing on something with his jaws? WELL DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN !!!!!! For me, such crap should stand as if it were poured in with such a volume of products at least)))) Either it should have been discussed somewhere for a long time ... I have paranoia ((((((((((I understood everything!
Musenovna
Quote: Zhanik

and mine thinks Cartoon is man's most important friend)))) loves her with all her heart .... she feeds him))) they have been friends with her for three years now))) and he is afraid of Kesha. Especially after breaking a couple of ceramic knives and getting a "hat" .... it doesn't fit at all)))) HE IS PASSED BY HIM !!!!! Complex, beautiful, irreplaceable))))
I just have a dough roll in my Wishlist (and I want a set, I really like evenly cut pasta), then the phone is new and suddenly I also wanted a multicooker. If my daughter was motivated to roll out, who loves homemade noodles and dumplings, and to roll out the dough herself - shoot me again to repeat this feat, then I wanted the multicooker after reading here on the forum. And I still haven't figured out why I need it so much. In addition, the deterrent factor - the mother-in-law, will not stand one more device on her countertop. Kesha settled when she was on vacation and had to put up with it. )))
And this despite the fact that she does not cook at all and terribly does not like "superfluous".
Musenovna
Quote: Zhanik

and I have a cuckoo 54 and 0821)))) things are different, of course. and HP is ... But the dough for eclairs, after all, this is not what I'm trying to understand ((((
I YEAR I want to find people who will tell me ... is LUFT acceptable with 300 grams of water and 520 grams of flour plus sugar, salt, yeast (white bread) .... You have it, just buzzes ??? Or does he "stick" sometimes, raise the boss? Chewing on something with his jaws? WELL DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN !!!!!! For me, such crap should stand as if it were poured in with such a volume of products at least)))) Either it should have been discussed somewhere for a long time ... I have paranoia ((((((((((I understood everything!

I have no particular problems with such a test. But I look at Kesha's condition, if it's hard, then I reduce the speed to a minimum and that's it. By the way, you never wrote at what speed you interfere?
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna


I just have a dough roll in my Wishlist (and I want a set, I really like evenly cut pasta), then the phone is new and suddenly I also wanted a multicooker. If my daughter was motivated to roll out, who loves homemade noodles and dumplings, and to roll out the dough herself - shoot me again to repeat this feat, then I wanted the multicooker after reading here on the forum. And I still haven't figured out why I need it so much.In addition, the deterrent factor - the mother-in-law, will not stand one more device on her countertop. Kesha settled when she was on vacation and had to put up with it. )))
And this despite the fact that she does not cook at all and terribly does not like "superfluous".

our movement was progressive)))) Therefore, the cartoon appeared first, and Kesha two years later ..... He is for her husband as a museum exhibit-expensive, clean to his arrival, and even with stories about the functionality of the monument and the results of vigorous activity) ))) ... He praises all friends and relatives ... but he himself can hardly imagine the principle of action)))) But this is a joke, in which there is a grain of joke))) My husband indulges me in my "Wishlist" I enjoy the kitchen, and he allows me to be a deviceaholic ... it's just that my conscience sometimes torments me ... that's why ... I’m looking for an excuse for Kesha ... or for a new kneader ... Which I honestly don’t want !!! ! Nowhere to put!
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna

I have no particular problems with such a test. But I look at Kesha's condition, if it's hard, then I reduce the speed to a minimum and that's it. By the way, you never wrote at what speed you interfere?

ALWAYS almost at a minimum (((((and I divide into portions ...
Zhanik
Quote: Musenovna


I just have a wishlist

I can't imagine how people live without cartoons ((((((sorry for the off-top, gentlemen, moderators) ... We would still eat semi-finished products, probably ..... And thanks to her, in our house even There is no purchased bread ... I don't bake it in it.
pushkar
Olga VB,
Quote: Olga VB
All nozzles must be adjusted, they should not hit the bowl, and should not hang far from it.
The hook at 010 is not adjustable. I tried it myself, then I read it.
Vei
And I can't adjust the whisk, it is firmly fixed, I'm afraid the arc will bend while I try to fold this nut, and it doesn't even think to move a mm (((
Inusya
the nut is really tight, but we got it done with the whisk ... don't be afraid, twist
Yanata0077
Girls, I'm new here. Thanks to reading this forum, Kenwood 010 recently appeared in the family. The weekend was a shock for him and for me, but the first questions appeared.

Why use the soft mix attachment?

Can yeast dough be kneaded with the -shaped attachment? (I baked bread yesterday, I didn't particularly like stirring the dough with a hook).

I understand correctly, if you order Kenwood from Germany, then there is no chance of getting a book of recipes in Russian?

Please help a newbie.
AlenaT
The soft mix nozzle is good for whipping creams,
successfully removes everything from the sides of the bowl.
It seems to me that yeast dough will be more difficult with a K-attachment
knead, the area of ​​the parts of the nozzle in contact with the dough is larger ...
Personally, I really like the hook, I used to scrape it off with a spatula
dough from the sides of the bowl, and now I start laying products from liquid components,
so you don't even have to help with a spatula ...
Try it as you like, convenience comes with practice)))
natushka
Is the 970 a dough sheeter? Is the titanium chef good for Kenwood? And how much is it in rubles? I really want to, but at the moment I need to see how much it will cost with delivery to Russia, whether I can meet the amount or not. And I would have taken it.
hostess
Good day! Can you please tell me, is 1200W power enough to knead dough for dumplings and noodles?

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