Qween
Girls, my question is still ripe.
Does the air fryer come out differently from the convection oven? That is, if you cook on a wire rack in a convection oven, does it not taste the same as from an air fryer?
Tanyulya
Quote: Qween

Girls, my question is still ripe.
Does the air fryer come out differently from the convection oven? That is, if you cook on a wire rack in a convection oven, does it not taste the same as from an air fryer?
Even from AG it is different, although it seems the principle is the same.
Qween
I'm very curious about the air fryer, I read it on the Internet yesterday, the reviews are normal. True, everyone notices that the price is clearly too high for such a device. I looked at us, then somewhere around 230 dollars you can buy, although I did not specify the availability, since I had not yet finally decided to buy.
Ksenia
Well, firstly, the fillet is small and it takes very little energy to warm up, it cannot be compared with an oven, it will still heat itself up, the money has already flowed away. In addition, the maximum power is different. Due to this, it is much more economically feasible to use a fillet. Food is different! As I understand it, just blowing hot air is one thing, but in combination with infrared radiation, that is, the grill effect, is quite another. In the journal "Science and Life" in the 1980s, there was a special article about the peculiarities of cooking in infrared radiation, and so there they especially pointed out the role of the rapidly forming crust, which prevents the juices from leaving. In short, there is also a theoretical basis for substantiating the difference in results.
Lika
Quote: Qween

PS: Probably it would be fun to cook zrazy in an air fryer? I love them very much, especially potato ones, but I don't fry them. In general, I fry on holidays, or even less often. I hate splashing fat.

For the same reason, I don't like making cutlets. And now the minced meat in the refrigerator is not stored. Firstly, it is very convenient, nothing splashes when frying. Secondly, it is quite dietary - no oil. Thirdly, and this is the most important thing, they themselves are fried WITHOUT ME. Garnish in a cartoon, cutlets in the grill and go to yourself.
Everyone came to eat, all that remains is to put the dishes into the PMM. The beauty!!
Still, the timer was attached to Fillet, the price would not have been for him.

Ksenia
Well, that's for sure - there would be no normal price!
Qween
Girls, thanks for the answers!
Tell me, for example, were the spring rolls and cheese cakes fried / baked in the AF?
Qween
I want to make a rationalization proposal: so that nothing sticks to the grill of the air fryer, I propose to lubricate it with a well-known non-stick lubricant (lard, flour, vegetable oil).
I use it to grease a lot of things, not just bread baking dishes. I think that AF will be good too. Anyway, if I buy it, the first thing I do is fit the nonstick mixture onto the wire rack.
Lyi
Girls, my beauty has arrived.
It was unbearable to try, so I shoved the chop with practically no marinade and, of course, it turned out to be harsh.
Air fryer
About cooking.
She fried meat and potatoes at the same time with a dividing plate for 200 * 10 minutes, then pulled out and tried to shake it, it did not work, she loosened the potatoes a little with a fork. I put it back on 200 * for 7 minutes, took it out, the meat was too overcooked, and the potatoes were still hard and, in my opinion, pale. She took out the meat, removed the separating plate and scattered the potatoes over the entire surface, with a brush, anointed the potatoes on top with vegetable oil and again for 4 minutes for the same 200 *. The result is on the face higher.
About taste.
The potato is as it should be, fried on top, soft inside. But here and there, instead of softness inside, there is a place to be cotton. Probably, we need to look for options for selecting the temperature and 2 minutes were unnecessary.
I won't talk about meat, since it's my own fault.Although I denderized it and beat it off, I had to hold it for at least 30-40 minutes in the marinade, and I myself love breaded chop in crumbs. Yes, and pulled it out late. It turns out that meat is fried here faster than potatoes.
Yes, I took the air fryer here, the cost is 4430
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Everything was sent quickly, the packaging is above all praise, there is a certificate of conformity, but for some reason I did not find a warranty card. There is an invoice and a waybill and a certificate of conformity and a very good colorful recipe book.
If I don’t find it, I’ll call again there and demand a certificate.
Owners Phillips, do you have a warranty card?
Everything, I found the coupon. Order here whoever needs it.
Tanyulya
Congratulations! I don't remember something about the warranty card, I'll have to look.
danuca
Quote: Lika

For the same reason, I don't like making cutlets. And now the minced meat in the refrigerator is not stored. Firstly, it is very convenient, nothing splashes when frying. Secondly, it is quite dietary - no oil. Thirdly, and this is the most important thing, they themselves are fried WITHOUT ME. Garnish in a cartoon, cutlets in the grill and go to yourself.
Everyone came to eat, all that remains is to put the dishes into the PMM. The beauty!!
Still, the timer was attached to Fillet, the price would not have been for him.
How about cutlets - just put them on the wire rack? and how long to do?
Ksenia
Yes, there are coupons, but they are not enough for the phillips, which means - you need to register the product on the site and then the full guarantee will work!
Nastasya
Here is my first potato:
Air fryer

Turned on the timer for 10 minutes. After completion, I mixed the potatoes. Confused by the pallor of the product. And I, just in case, did the second cycle for about 13 minutes (that is, 3 minutes more than I should have). As a result, the potatoes are very browned. But they did not wait for her husband. Have a meal with the child in one sitting.
It tastes like baked. Very tasty.
Lyi
Quote: Ksenia

Yes, there are coupons, but they are not enough for the phillips, which means - you need to register the product on the site and then the full guarantee will work!
How's that?
Lika
Quote: danuca

How about cutlets - just put them on the wire rack? and how long to do?

I put a piece of non-stick cloth perforated with a hole punch on the grate.
Girls grease the grate with oil.

Air fryer
By time, depending on the size of the cutlets, 15-19 minutes, if I put a full basket. This is the time for a COLD deep fryer.
Ksenia
Quote: Lyi

How's that?
For them, only the registration of the device on the website is important - you enter the serial number there and they immediately register it!
danuca
Quote: Lika

I put a piece of non-stick cloth perforated with a hole punch on the grate.
Girls grease the grate with oil.

Air fryer
By time, depending on the size of the cutlets, 15-19 minutes, if I put a full basket. This is the time for a COLD deep fryer.
what kind of canvas? type of silicone mat?
julifera
Quote: Qween

rummaged through everything and everyone and did not find 9225 on sale.

As I understand it, 9225 differs only in the presence of a special form, and is more expensive by 100 euros, but otherwise the same, or is mine wrong?

So far, I dug it:
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Question:
Where can I buy a special baking dish?

Answer:
The bakeware is only available online in the Philips online store in the following countries:

Great Britain
Germany
Netherlands
Belgium
Spain
Sweden
Denmark
Tanyulya
Yes, you can put any form in our model, I have already put metal and silicone ones, it is preparing normally. I also want to try corrugated foil, which are used for grilling.
Qween
Quote: julifera

As I understand it, 9225 differs only in the presence of a special form, and is more expensive by 100 euros, but otherwise the same, or is mine wrong?

I also understood so, and on YouTube the video about 9225 is only bourgeois-foreign.

Quote: Tanyulya

I also want to try corrugated foil, which are used for grilling.

I think it should turn out well.
mowgli
I plan to buy a fryer when I buy it, tell us more about Phillips, is there no need for oil at all? how are the rest of the products - chicken, fish?
Tanyulya
Quote: mowgli

I plan to buy a fryer when I buy it, tell us more about Phillips, is there no need for oil at all? how are the rest of the products - chicken, fish?
It is not necessary, I just grease the meat with a brush with meat, or you can add a little to the marinade, and this is for visible shine, and not for taste. I think the same with fish (I haven't done it yet)
Nastasya
Quote: Tanyulya

Yes, you can put any form in our model, I have already put metal and silicone ones, it is preparing normally. I also want to try corrugated foil, which are used for grilling.
That is, can you put any shape directly on the grid? How then will the bottom get ready?
Nastasya
Listen, my potatoes turned out badly here. I did the same as last time 10 minutes + 10 minutes. As a result, it is completely white and not appetizing. I had to add 3 minutes, and then another 3 minutes. And all the same it is somehow light in the end. I don't understand what the reason is. Maybe the potatoes were too wet? Although I dried it well with a towel ...
Tanyulya
Quote: Nastasya

That is, can you put any shape directly on the grid? How then will the bottom get ready?
I don’t know how, but it’s ready. I put it right on the net.
Lyi
Quote: Nastasya

Listen, my potatoes turned out badly here. I did the same as last time 10 minutes + 10 minutes. As a result, it is completely white and not appetizing. I had to add 3 minutes, and then another 3 minutes. And all the same it is somehow light in the end. I don't understand what the reason is. Maybe the potatoes were too wet? Although I dried it well with a towel ...
I control the degree of fry by greasing with vegetable oil. If after 10 minutes it seems to me that there is little blush, I grease the potatoes with vegetable oil directly in the grid on top with a brush.
It may not be that, but so far it works.
Now I have prepared marble cutlets, thanks Natusik, the recipe is here
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=146928.0
Here are the cutlets and potatoes, evaluate

🔗I fried cutlets in an air fryer for 10 + 8 minutes (it could have been less), fried potatoes for only 10 minutes, there weren't many of them, and perhaps, since it was fried after the cutlets in an already preheated deep fryer, for some reason she immediately cooked, She did not fry any more, Last time I overcooked it, it was beautifully fried, but in some places it was cottony inside.
danuca
Quote: Nastasya

Listen, my potatoes turned out badly here. I did the same as last time 10 minutes + 10 minutes. As a result, it is completely white and not appetizing. I had to add 3 minutes, and then another 3 minutes. And all the same it is somehow light in the end. I don't understand what the reason is. Maybe the potatoes were too wet? Although I dried it well with a towel ...
did you forget the oil? or too wet.
Lyi
Girls, I fried potatoes and cutlets without putting any silicone mats, I did not smear the grate with anything, nothing sticks to the grate. But the very potatoes and cutlets were greased on top with vegetable oil.
If you still want to put silicone, then this little thing is suitable, it is now in the world of the book costs 99 rubles and is called a chicken baking dish, here
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And this is how it looks in the basket

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Natusik
Lyi,what cutlets are cute, and potatoes are just SUPER !!! I love these potatoes, my mouth water is flowing ... And what is this magic thing in which you cook here? I haven’t even heard of her! In the village !!!
Lyi
Girls, today I made cutlets on silicone inserted into the basket of an air fryer, I did not like it.
It's just that the baskets are much tastier in the lattice.
In general, my son said that, of course, it warms the soul, that less oil gets into the stomach, but cutlets just fried in a pan, like potatoes, are tastier.
Hand on stomach heart, perhaps, I agree with him.
Lyi
Quote: Natusik

Lyi,what cutlets are cute, and potatoes are just SUPER !!! I love these potatoes, my mouth water is flowing ... And what is this magic thing in which you cook here? I haven’t even heard of her! In the village !!!
Natusik!
Just now I saw your post, sorry for the belated answer.
Yes, the device is new, read this Temka from the beginning.Great relief in cooking, the dishes are prepared very quickly, they turn out almost dietary due to the lack of oil, and with an unusual taste.
But whether I like this taste or not, I have not yet decided. Only recently received this air fryer.
Qween
Quote: Natusik

And what is this magic thing in which you cook here? I haven’t even heard of her! In the village !!!

Natusik, I, too, the other day accidentally went into this topic and was stunned. I have already read all the pages three times. I understand that the air fryer is mainly a marketing ploy, but I think it's quite interesting.

Lyi Anyway, I'm just sure that the taste of food fried in a pan, familiar from childhood, cannot be exactly reproduced by different magic devices, especially without oil. The air fryer is just another way to diversify familiar tastes and make food healthier. IMHO
Lyi
Quote: Qween

Natusik, I, too, the other day accidentally went into this topic and was stunned. I have already read all the pages three times. I understand that the air fryer is mainly a marketing ploy, but I think it's quite interesting.

Lyi Anyway, I'm just sure that the taste of food fried in a pan, familiar from childhood, cannot be exactly reproduced by different magic devices, especially without oil. The air fryer is just another way to diversify familiar tastes and make food healthier. IMHO
Perhaps this is not only a marketing ploy, but rather a new SELF-STANDING device.
The taste of the dish is not like a deep fryer or an airfryer, it is different, its own. I have both the airfryer and the deep fat fryer separately, so there is something to compare with.
I'm not sure if I really needed him, but oh-oh-so curious. Can I quickly fry in a pan, and then for 2 minutes in an air fryer?
I doubted for a long time whether to buy this deep fryer or this device
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=106296.new;topicseen#new
In the end, I bought both, the second is still in progress, I'll get it this week, then I'll sign off in comparison.
Qween
And what is meant by the words "INDEPENDENT device"?
Lyi
Quote: Qween

And what is meant by the words "INDEPENDENT device"?
Maybe I didn't quite put it right, but what I meant was that the taste of the dish in this device is completely different from others.
That is, multi-pressure cookers, with their wide variety, still taste ordinary, close in comparison with each other. And this air fryer, although it repeats the name (airfryer and deep fat fryer), but the taste of the dish is different, not like the one in the airfryer or deep fryer.
In general, something like that, to put it bluntly.
Qween
Clear .
Nataly_rz
Quote: Lyi

I doubted for a long time whether to buy this deep fryer or this device
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...=106296.new;topicseen#new
In the end, I bought both, the second is still in progress, I'll get it this week, then I'll sign off in comparison.
Lyihow good it is that deviceaholics are not translated on our forum. I will very much wait for a report comparing these devices. I'll tell you a secret, I have already crossed from that camp to this
Lyi
Quote: Nataly_rz

I will very much wait for a report comparing these devices.
As soon as possible!!!
I would like to believe that these devices will give dishes of different taste. And then you will have to urgently look for someone to give them.
Ksenia
In my opinion, this is the whole point - a new taste with a completely new level of product usefulness! I abstained in my time from the deep fryer as such and from the airfryer. But the air fryer immediately made it clear to me that this is a worthwhile thing with no disadvantages of the above! And I was not mistaken! And about the taste of cooked dishes - you need to remember, we feel not with our nose and tongue, but with our head. Here, like nowhere else, children's inpring impressions are important, and we, alas, are all built on cast iron soaked in overheated fats! Tastes in food are a very conservative thing, you need to get used to appreciating the naturalness and usefulness of food, the dominant must become so strong to overpower the memories of our language - the stupidest organ in the body, according to doctors.
And about baking in the form - everything is baked like in an excellent oven, but faster! Go for it!
Qween
Girls, why are you talking in riddles today in this topic?

Quote: Nataly_rz

I'll tell you a secret, I have already crossed from that camp to this

Nataly_rzWell, what did this mysterious phrase mean?
I sit here, listening to every review and every word ...
Qween
Ksenia, and what form do you put in the air fryer?
Lyi
Quote: Qween

Ksenia, and what form do you put in the air fryer?
While Ksenia keeps silent, I want to say that I liked to cook more the way the manufacturer had foreseen, that is, just in a basket, no additional forms, I cooked meat, and cutlets, and nothing stuck to the potatoes.
when I put the silicone mat, it turned out some kind of boiled-stew, that is, meat juice stood out from the cutlet and even curled up unpleasantly next to the cutlet.
Ksenia
I am, apologizing, finishing my doctorate, so I do not immediately answer! I baked in the form something that cannot be done on the wire rack, but I really want to - an omelet and a cake! I took a silicone mold for jelly - it is 2-3 times smaller than a standard "hat" (my mother calls this silicone mold for a cupcake!). And very cool - fast, ruddy, I wrote above! Good luck and bon appetit to everyone!
Nataly_rz
Quote: Qween

Girls, why are you talking in riddles today in this topic?

Nataly_rzWell, what did this mysterious phrase mean?
I sit here, listening to every review and every word ...
Qween, we still have a topic about hybrid... At the same time, several companies have released devices similar in functionality. So I wanted this one first, then that one, then this one again ... In general, I * all are so mysterious and contradictory *

Ksenia, thank you explained everything about our instincts
Quote: Ksenia

I am, apologizing, finishing my doctoral dissertation
now it is clear where the scientific terms in the previous message come from. Regarding the conservatism of tastes, I completely agree, we suggest that natural is better, better, better, more natural ... and fried is tastier
Natusik
Lyi, Qween,girls, I'll probably take a closer look at this magical thing ... and I will often look here ...
Tanyulya
Quote: Lyi

Girls, today I made cutlets on silicone inserted into the basket of an air fryer, I did not like it.
It's just that the baskets are much tastier in the lattice.
In general, my son said that, of course, it warms the soul, that less oil gets into the stomach, but cutlets just fried in a pan, like potatoes, are tastier.
Hand on stomach heart, perhaps, I agree with him.
I won't say about cutlets, but I like the potatoes from AF. And to be honest, I haven't eaten fried potatoes in a pan for 10-12 years
Ksenia
The terms that I use have nothing to do with my science - I have a completely different specialty, this is the position of my husband, and he is a professional in these matters. But the concept of tasty or not tasty is still a matter of consciousness, not real sensations. It tastes good for you - fried potatoes, for the Japanese - unsalted raw fish with undercooked rice, for the African pygmy - a caterpillar fatter and completely alive, for the Frenchman - pate, which many of our men don't consider as food, for the Italian - undercooked pasta ... So judge for yourself .. ...
matroskin_kot
Yesterday only my daughter told me that chicken drumsticks are often made in an air fryer. She likes the fact that setting the temperature and cooking time, you can calmly do something else ... Well, potatoes are, of course, an adorable dish ...
kosmar
today I fried cutlets again - very juicy, soft and tasty
Ksenia
The shins, of course, are a thing, but any vegetables - just sprinkle with seasonings and - eat your mind!

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