Medtech
ErhanIt happens that I now have Rumba 5xx, and the floor polisher Mint 4200 - my wife really likes it, and the look and work is quiet, now there are no such ones anymore, this company was bought by iRobot and now sells a new similar robot Braava-380, a super-duper thing, an excellent robot for wet and dry cleaning.

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Tanyusha
MedtechDo you think Braava-380 is better than scuba.
Medtech
Tanyusha, Braava and Scuba are completely different robots, one wipes, the other washes. It all depends on what you want and the coatings on which they will work, tell us.
Tanyusha
Medtech, and Braava and Scuba do wet cleaning or I misunderstood from the description of these units.
Medtech
Tanyushais not very correct. Brava wipes with a damp or dry microfiber cloth, Scuba pours water under it, rubs it with a brush and collects dirty water in a container for dirty water, puddles may remain, the surface is more wet after cleaning. Therefore, they cannot be compared, the principle of cleaning is different.
Tanyusha
Medtech, for some reason I like Braava more, probably because it wipes it with a cloth.
Medtech
I also like it, but it works after Rumba 5xx, since Brava and Mint do not move even over small sills and do not clean carpets and it turns out that they work in the same room, although Brava has a small container for liquid and she slowly adds this liquid to a rag from microfiber and it stays damp much longer. For the robot, they use navigation cubes that are placed one by one in the room to improve movement between them. Although I now work with one, I just rearrange it from one room to another, there are level differences and small sills between the rooms.
Sonadora
Quote: I_Irina
I bought a Panda X500. Questions arose immediately. After a full charge for 12 hours, we launched our assistant. Having driven a little chaotically, never straight, and cutting circles, the robot issued an error E01 (the left wheel does not work). Rebooted, it didn't help. Trains a little chaotically and again gives error E01. There is no dirt on the wheel, that is, nothing prevents him from driving. When working from the control panel, it does not drive directly. Who faced this? More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=105172.0
I am Irina, I came across, only a vacuum cleaner - Samsung. The problem was solved in the service center, completely replacing the wheel and the drive to it.
Turn the vacuum cleaner upside down and try turning the wheels by hand (one at a time). If one of the wheels rotates with "slippage", you will have to replace it.
Alenka212
Quote: mowgli
Rumba should be bought only for the last series, and with a considerable number of beacons, and there the price bites ... where did you get the idea?
it's just me who wrote about my territory and the cleaning strategy (work in my absence in a large number of rooms).
Medtech, thanks for the tip with two bases (I was going to wear it up and down, and by the way, nothing will happen to it from the transfer?). The consultants told me that the robot builds a new cleaning map every time.

And I didn't want to offend anyone at all. I just laid out my results of personal agony of choice
Medtech
Quote: Alyonka212
The consultants told me that the robot builds a new cleaning map every time.
Yes, every time, every cleaning, if you stop it, it will start cleaning anew and the map will also be rebuilt, but it will still find the base and start charging.
There will be nothing with the base, just the wire that is inserted into the outlet will eventually bend, and it’s inconvenient and the base must be carried and the robot, the wire gets tangled, in short, it’s not rational, and you don’t trust anyone else, it’s wrong to put it in the wrong way, and with the base on each floor, only move the robot.
Medtech
I am Irina, on aliexpress, it is enough to dial Lilin robot parts and pick up wheels of a spare part or consumable. with the Middle Kingdom we are now close partners.
* Tanya *
Girls, I share my sad experience. I disobeyed you and ordered the Xrobot XR-510D robot vacuum cleaner. Arrived yesterday. We tried to turn it on, but it doesn't drive at all. We thought it was necessary to charge. We put it on charge for 12 hours, as expected. And they began to experience it at night. And he is again fumbling. It jerks forward for a couple of seconds and goes back also for two seconds. They tried to ride from the remote control, it only drives in a circle, the second wheel does not work at all. An hour with him was tormented, my husband is already angry. He says just throw out this Chinese toy. He said to hand it back and no more robots were bought in Ozone. True, the refund was made quickly. Already today they returned the money back. Let's order something else. But you want a robot. Now I'm torturing my husband about Panda, you praised him so much. How to reassure the faithful now that there are punctures with any technique ...
Medtech
* Tanya *,LiLin group manufactures a very wide line of robots, and the robot you purchased and PаNа (commercial name for Russia) are produced at this factory. Of course, there are often problems with technology, the main thing is that they are quickly and easily resolved.
You'd better describe your apartment, the number of rooms, coverage, the presence of animals, what you expect from the robot, and how you intend to use it. Based on their experience, manufacturers overestimate or idealize the technical characteristics of their products, and not every robot is suitable for a particular apartment.
Alenka212
Medtech, felt. that you are experienced in robots Tell me what to check in the office upon receipt, except for the complete set. especially with regard to the battery?
Medtech
Alenka212, the quality of the battery is very difficult to check visually, this is only during use, the most important thing is to check the warranty, receipts, correct filling and packaging.
Try to run the robot at least on the table, it all depends on the type of battery that is in the robot, but in any situation, start the robot, if you are told that it needs to charge for a long time, it is now discharged and blah blah blah, ask to charge it at least 10 15 minutes and run again for at least 10-15 seconds and send him to park at the base, he must do this, if the robot does not do this, then you should think before taking this copy, this model from this seller.
Alenka212
Medtech, thank you for quick answer. My hands are itching already. And the seller wants to deliver the courtesy herself. And now I know what is better in an office with feeling, with sense, with arrangement ...
* Tanya *
Medtech, we have three rooms, a kitchen and a corridor, the usual 62 sq. m. There are no animals. There are no small children. Of the long-haired, only me and my daughter. Linoleum and laminate flooring. There are no carpets. Yesterday I read the reviews for the whole day, I firmly understood that I really want Panda x500. Maybe it's for the best that it didn't work out with the trunk, otherwise I would regret it later. Even my husband has given up, we order tonight
Medtech
These are almost ideal conditions for a lazy black and polar bear. But there is a high probability of room-by-room cleaning, when you lock it in a room for 30 minutes, then the next room, etc., and returns to the base will not always be successful if the entire apartment is automatically cleaned. This is the only problem, but ideal for smooth floors.
* Tanya *
It's okay, if necessary, we will carry it with pens. If only it was cleaned
elenvass
Medtech, Sergei, please advise a robot - a house, area 100 m2, no animals, but there are two long-haired girls, laminate flooring, tiles, carpets, there is a sill (joint) between the laminate and the tile, height difference (steps).
* Tanya *
Good people, but what's going on, we just can't find a suitable online store.
It's a pity there is no Panda on Ozone, others did not inspire confidence. Tell someone a reliable trusted store
tat-63
Tanchik, Yulmart is not bad, I buy all the equipment there. If you have a Panda there in stock
* Tanya *
tat-63, Tatyan, Thank you! Looked, really is available. True, I can only receive it by mail. I would like to through a transport company. If I don’t find more, then I will order there
Bes7vetrov
Player. RU. There is a panda x500 10980 rubles. Available in red, black on request. I bought a lot of equipment there ...
* Tanya *
And I also found one interesting shop called Dusty. The price there is suspiciously cheaper by a thousand. I talked to them, they can deliver through a transport company, I even asked which vacuum cleaner is better for me to buy a Panda or Rumba. I thought that now they will offer Rumba, it is more profitable for them to sell at a higher price, but no, we said we do not advise Rumba, and Panda is a good robot. They even started to place an order and then a letter comes: pay 9990 to the card Recipient Violetta Vitalievna Novitskaya Sberbank card No. ..... Oops .. my husband immediately has doubts, you will transfer money like this, and then look for fistulas. We read reviews about this store, everywhere positive, but mostly when a courier brings him money in cash, they did not find anywhere whether anyone translated this Violetta Vitalievna on the card. There was just a case with our acquaintance, when he ordered a camera on the Internet and also asked to transfer it to a personal account and that's it, the money was gone, no answer, no hello. So we thought
* Tanya *
Looked at the player. Ru, I found the following information there: You should draw your attention to the fact that only a robot vacuum cleaner with a branded holographic sticker confirms and guarantees the originality of the presented PANDA product! The product is marked with a branded PANDA hologram with an individual serial number! Interestingly, do your Pandas also have a hologram?
Medtech
Unfortunately there is no such company * Tanya *, which you have voiced so many times, there is a large company Lilin group and it produces a large number of modifications of robots, in Russia Panda is a commercial name. This company has recently released new modifications of robots which are designated by the numbers 700 and 800 (as iRobot did before), they became more passable and changed some external features. So those who want to purchase such robots should ask about new modifications, otherwise they may get already on discontinued ones.
Apartments, like the people who live in them, are very different, and not all robots are suitable for certain apartments, not all manufacturers and sellers honestly describe the capabilities of robots, you should carefully read user reviews who often write for money or discounts.
Medtech
elenvassFor cleaning robots, the most difficult problem is carpets, not even the carpets themselves, but transitions from a smooth covering to a carpet, if there are many such transitions, for example, the carpet lies in the center and there is a smooth covering between the carpet and the wall, then robots with navigation such as LV, Samsung , Iklebo accumulates error and robots may incorrectly follow their route and not always return to base. Some users do not accept robots without navigation, some hate the Chinese, some adhere to one manufacturer. Please specify how many rooms you have, how the carpets are located in the rooms (fill the whole room or part), if there are any preferences in the robot model, your assumptions about using the robot. And the actual budget that you can allocate for the robot. These are just the first questions for the optimal selection of a robot specifically for your apartment.
Alenka212
Well, here's another happy owner of the robot has become more!
In my box, Iklebo is already waiting in the wings. She asked the manager (as taught) to charge and check. To be honest, I didn't expect it to have such a diameter. Looks pretty. It doesn't really work loudly. When switching from carpet to laminate, it was advised to turn on the cleaning mode and overcoming the thresholds at the same time. I'll first read the instructions at home. Then I'll wash the carpet (for the purity of the experiment, and I don't want to clog the filters right away).
Immediately I took pins for shaking off dust lumps from the brushes.
The second base costs only 1800 (I will buy it later).
* Tanya *
Alyonka, Congratulations! Let it serve for a long time and please the hostess! Mine will also come soon, we are waiting, sir
Medtech
Alenka212, With the addition of you, pleasant use.
Alenka212
First report on Iklebo. Naturally, no one gave me the opportunity to prepare the carpet and the rest of the area for a gentle test of a new pet. The husband said: there is nothing to pamper.
So, in order.
After charging, it was launched from the base on the laminate on the second floor. Particular excitement was caused by his movement along the edge of the staircase. Sticks back and forth. Of course I didn't fall, but we decided that when cleaning on a schedule, we'd better throw a restrictive tape for insurance. We have a very complex opening. What if the sensors get dusty and dive?
I tried to make my daughter's designer out of small parts. We'll have to remove it (although the daughter said she would kill him).
Further tests continued with the transition from laminate to carpet. The transition did not cause any difficulties (except for the strongly curled edge, over which the residents stumble). Also easily overcame the plastic docking threshold between the living room and the hallway.
I did not clean everything from the carpet, but it was very tolerable (considering that Thomas does not suck everything from him, only the steam generator saved).
General impressions are as follows:
- it really sucks up sand (the sisal rug at the threshold was cleaned like a normal vacuum cleaner);
- returns to the base for recharging if the charge is not enough;
-If it is not launched from the base, it returns to the launch site (as described in the instructions);
- cleaned in the evening with dim lighting, did not get lost;
-not much noise;
- brush from cat fluff and long coiled hair is convenient to clean with nail scissors (thanks for the advice to forum users);
-two side brushes are very long.
At first, my husband was skeptical, looking at how 20 thousand ply through the rooms according to one well-known logic. But after cleaning the container and inspecting the cleaned surfaces, I am quite satisfied. The purchase was deemed necessary.
The complete cleaning of the entire floor with a start from the base and return to it has not been tested (there was not enough time, although it moves quite quickly.)
Timer start has not been tried (this function is left until the weekend).
Floor polisher mode not tested. But how wonderful it was to run a mop on the floor, freed from crumbs, debris and lumps of cat hair! (Washed in the morning).
In general, the first impression with a bang! Let's see further.

Alenka212
Along the way, a question for experienced users: if on some day the robot is not needed in work, should it always stand on the included base? Or do you need to turn it off and the base (the instructions say for a long time, and this is how much)?
Vafelka
Elena, I have Rumba, so it stands on the base all the time from one use to the next. And Brahab 380 also.
Medtech
Alenka212If you do not need it, you can turn off the switch on the robot and remove the base from the outlet, without the base, the turned on robot discharges quickly, in two days at 0. Therefore, if you suddenly turn off the electricity, do not forget to turn off the robot with the switch.
Vafelka, Quite right about Rumba, but if a long break is planned, then the manufacturer advises to remove the battery from Rumba and put it in a cool dry place, and unplug the base from the outlet, this robot does not have a switch.
Alenka212
Thank you. And if you often disconnect the battery will not harm?
Medtech
Alenka212, His battery is lithium-polymer, the same as in a phone / smartphone / tablet, such a mode is not at all scary to her, the switch is more likely to break from frequent on / off switching than you harm the battery with this mode. Our radiologist usually uses a very realistic comparison when asked if x-rays are harmful? Answers: If you smoke, then this is about how to smoke 5 or 6 cigarettes, of course there is harm, you just should not abuse it.
Alenka212
Medtech, Thank you. I have not yet reached full awareness in this area. Maybe that's why I'm asking stupid questions. It's just not cheap to me. I would not want to ditch right away due to illiteracy.
Medtech
Alenka212It's good when questions are asked before, not after.
Alenka212
I try
* Tanya *
Uraaaa, my Panda has arrived! It is already charging the prescribed 12 hours, after work we will test it.
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Already checked a little, of course, after being printed, I drove around the hall, cool, my husband seemed smart, sees obstacles, does not crash, the curtains do not interfere, do not have to be lifted. He talks amusingly, the buttons glow beautifully. I hope we will be friends happily ever after
Medtech
* Tanya *If it's not a secret, where is it written that this is Panda? Like no brand names on the lid? Doesn't the manufacturer advertise itself? maybe there is a name below where the serial number is? Have you checked the hologram?
* Tanya *
oh, and that's true. There is no hologram, I will look at the serial number in the evening. Their website says: ROBOT VACUUM CLEANER X500 PET SERIES, LILIN (PANDA). Really cheated?
Medtech
* Tanya *The main thing is that there is a guarantee, the name is correct, and whether the local name is written on the case or not, this is not a prerequisite for the sale. Tell us how she goes behind the curtains with the curtains? or in front of the curtains and not touching them?
* Tanya *
The guarantee is just there, phew, they calmed me down .. My curtains are light, he drives on them a little and back, does not wind, does not suck, so I am calm behind the curtains. It is very interesting to go around the chairs, each leg in turn and as carefully as if he sees it in reality. While I like everything, I'll see how many rooms the charge will last
elenvass
SergeiOh, sorry, please, I asked a question and went on vacation ...
There are 4 rooms, but there is a staircase and a threshold between the laminate and the tiles. The carpet is located in the middle of the room. There are no preferences for brands, but I also want a washing robot (to wash the floors in the kitchen), and as I understood them, only irobot ... Something like that.
Medtech
elenvass not a single household robot cleaner has yet learned to ride the stairs, Check again, you have 4 rooms, 2 levels, tiles are most likely in the kitchen, and then my fantasy is over, one robot for washing, another for dry cleaning, or one robot for everything but this is already dry cleaning and wiping with a damp cloth? 2 robots or one? and the most difficult question is the budget.
elenvass
Sergei, You misunderstood me, I am worried that he would not flop ... Tiles in the kitchen and in the corridor, robots are probably better than 2, because I need it to wash the tiles well in the kitchen. Total area 100 m2, kitchen 20 m2. Budget - I think it's better to go broke once, but not to regret it later.
Medtech
elenvass, You have an apartment of 100m, 4 rooms, ask about the stairs where does it lead? Please describe the apartment, the presence of animals, there is a carpet. All robots have sensors against falling from stairs, although there are reports of falls from stairs, but personally I have read 3 or 4 different companies, you should not worry about this. The washing robot is iRobot-Scuba 385, 390 and the last 450, they really wash the floor, even through a small sill, they cannot move, so it will not leave the tile, but it does not work unattended, because it is necessary to fill in water, wait until the end of cleaning, drain the dirty water, wash the robot, so it does not work according to the schedule, it is started by the button. There is a Braava robot polisher, it wipes the floor in two modes, dry and wet, if it were not for the carpet, you can safely advise, but it also does not have time programming, since it deals with liquid and should be at least a little under supervision, at least wet Remove the cloth from it, otherwise it will fade, and there may be a damp stain from long contact.
elenvass
Medtech, Sergei, the staircase is a few steps, the height difference in the kitchen, there is only one carpet in the living room, there are no animals, no doors. I am thinking of taking a scuba 450 for the washing robot, but the cleaner probably also needs to look towards the aerobot ...

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