plod7
Medtech,
I tried to test it again. All the lights came on when the DOC was pressed, the Wedge lit up red, and a blue light began to blink on the right. I pressed Doc until the brushes began to rotate, the front wheel, something was noisy, probably a fan, there seemed to be no extraneous sounds. Today is 2 weeks. as I bought it, so it is unrealistic to rent or change it.
Medtech
plod7It's great that you did it, not all men can do it the second time
It is worth carefully reading the instructions in the place where cleaning the robot is described, something is wound and knocks during operation.
plod7
Well, not everything worked out, but I got to the brushes. I cleaned everything, even with a vacuum cleaner 1 time already, it seems like nothing is wound anywhere. Is this a normal sound? Can I find fault? The video, the link to which I posted, is audible. Thank you very much for your help.
Olesya74
Medtech,
I would like to ask a question: how important is the evenness of the floor during cleaning for some models of robots? They say that for some models it is critical, in particular for Iklebo Arte. Or is it just "talking"? (I just can't remember in which forum I read about this, because I have been reading it for a very long time with short interruptions). I have a floor in an apartment on a concrete screed, covered with linoleum, sometimes small imperfections are visually noticeable in the form of small depressions and bulges of about 1-2 mm. Or is it just "talking"?
Medtech
Olesya74It all depends on your assessment of irregularities, on a screed linoleum usually does not give large gaps between the robot scraper with which Eugene Robot, Neato robots are equipped, unlike linoleum laid on uneven boards.
The robot scraper is not movable relative to the robot body and does not react to changes in floor levels. If you take a regular scoop and do not press it to the floor surface, but hold it slightly above the floor, how much debris will fall into the scoop? It should be borne in mind that the brush also may not touch the floor, in these cases there are places that the robot will simply pass through and the debris will be moved only by the side brush, but the weak vacuum of the robot is not enough to tighten it inward without the help of a brush and a scraper.
This mainly affects the wearers of white socks, the dust from these places will be on white ...
You should take a 30cm long ruler and place it in several places in different directions, edge to the floor to assess your unevenness. More than 2mm there will already be uncleaned places. But these are subtleties that you may not notice, since in general the quality of cleaning will be good, and with frequent cleaning and weekly dampness, the dust level will be low.
Olesya74
Medtech,
Thank you very much for your answer !!! I checked it with a ruler, there are not many such places, so it will be good to clean!
Stafa
Almost all of my porcelain stoneware has shot off and, having shifted the shot tiles, the floor has become uneven. In some places there is a drop of up to 4mm. For neato botvak it turned out to be not a problem, it collects dust and debris from everywhere. In one place there is no sill and the gap between the coatings (between the laminate and porcelain stoneware) is 2-2.5 cm and the sill is 2 cm somewhere, and from there all the rubbish collects neato.
Olesya74
Medtech, as a specialist in robotic vacuum cleaners, can you understand a breakdown in a vacuum cleaner or are these features of its operation? Aiklibo arte vacuum cleaner, just 2 days after I bought it. Immediately gave him a serious test by running both garbage collection and wet cleaning. The covering throughout the apartment is linoleum, there are no sills, it is cleaned from room to room. Immediately, the vacuum cleaner began to emit extraneous sounds when turning and turning (approximately sounds are emitted on the wheels of a car when making a sharp turn at a sufficiently high speed).At the same time, it works well, calls in all places, but these sounds raise questions. This is normal? I called the seller, the owner of the store bought herself the same, but she has no such sounds, she has a laminate covering, she also uses two modes at once: dry and wet cleaning. I apologize for the quality of the video, I shot it on the phone, "hastily".



Maybe you have already met "such sounds" for this brand of vacuum cleaners and can you explain their origin? The sounds are not always emitted by the vacuum cleaner, but quite often, it is barely audible, but sometimes it is very loud, even louder than it "hums" itself. Yes, I did not hear such sounds during dry cleaning.

Thank you in advance for your reply.
Medtech
Olesya74You should weigh a dry cloth before it is moistened and after, before installing it on the robot, I have an answer, but I need this data.
Olesya74
Medtech, a dry napkin weighs 17 grams, and a wet napkin weighs 50 grams.
Medtech
Thank you Olesya74,
The robot simply slips with its wheels on wet linoleum, and the napkin creates the effect of sticking to the surface, and the robot is light enough, so the wheels slip on wet linoleum and the robot sharply increases the speed on the wheel because it does not turn when slipping.
You should moisten the napkin less, try to squeeze, so that there is no more than 30 grams of water on the napkin. It is better to periodically stop the robot and wash the napkin, limiting cleaning to one room, one small napkin will not be able to collect all the dirt from the whole apartment, smearing will begin.
You can run the robot with a dry cloth every time, it also collects fine dust on it, it is better to do wet cleaning separately, after dry cleaning. The total amount of dust in the apartment will decrease with the frequent start of the robot and the napkin will be cleaner ..
Olesya74
MedtechThank you, you returned CALM to me !!! I already thought what a problem! I will strictly follow your instructions so as not to overload the vacuum cleaner.
gretthen
Neo, good day. On the forum I saw that you wrote about ordering a robot vacuum cleaner 4 tune. How is it in operation? How much did I get through and so on. I will be very grateful for the answer
Ball is a goof
Good night, I'm in trouble - my panda drove into a puddle and drank some water, so I had to pour water out of it. at the same time it hummed harshly. I immediately turned it off, drained the water, put it on the edge, now I will dry it.
Now the question : what is the probability of resuscitation and how many days to dry? (worked properly before the incident, in March it would have been a year old). while reading this forum I came across a similar accident at Nadrozhzhakh. Be kind, write - is the assistant still alive?
Medtech
Ball is a goof, usually the water is completely dried in 2-3 days in a dry warm room, it hummed harshly because the filter was wet, its suction is not great, the engine most likely did not have anything, if only the water did not get to the board for a long time when it was turned on.
Put it closer to the battery, but not in a dense one, remove the trash can, open the lid and leave it there.
Ball is a goof
thank you, kind person for the hope ... I think it didn't hit the board, the robot continued to run, like - it was getting out ... probably if I got it, I would stand rooted to the spot .... well, this is how I persuade myself .... then I will unsubscribe what came of it ...
Medtech
Ball is a goof, the main thing is that you turned it off with a switch, it would be worthwhile to remove the battery, but enough time has passed and it will not help, as it does not get rooted to the spot, only after a while when the water connecting the contacts of the parts under the action of electrolysis will begin to corrode them, leaving the dissolved metals in as salts on the board, and now they are already short circuits. Unfortunately, drowned people are poorly repaired, since it is difficult to find all the salt deposits and eliminate them. The usual survival rate is 30-40 percent after water ingress. If the battery was immediately removed and the device was disassembled, washed with distilled water, alcohol, then the water most likely will not do any harm, it simply will not have time.
A quickly removed battery from a drowned phone usually saves his life.
Ball is a goof
Good evening everyone!
Sergei, unfortunately, I have no idea what and how to get it out of the equipment, my nickname speaks for itself ... I can only press the on-off button, wipe the dust off with a cloth from above according to my mood ...
at home, dust has already begun to collect in the corners ... I will disappear without my panda ...
So the question was born: how do drowned people die - don't turn on right away, or turn on and gradually die? ... just wondering what to expect from her
Medtech
Ball is a goof, turn it on, most likely water did not get on the board and there is nothing to worry about.
Ball is a goof
Good afternoon, today is a significant day ... on the fifth day of drying I turned on my panda .... it works !!!! I felt fully happy !!! I decided for myself, if it doesn’t get better, I’ll go for a new one, it’s too troublesome without it ...
Sergey, thank you for your kind words!
Ball is a goof
I forgot to write, maybe someone will be interested:
The panda does not get stuck on height differences of 1 cm, my table in the kitchen seems to be on the podiums or something ... 1 cm high, the Panda crawls onto them without visible effort and slides just as easily .. and she also has one strange, in the whole apartment I chose one heating battery (everyone hangs at the same height from the floor) and, crawling under it, it seems to get up to the base, I have to send it from there forcibly to be cleaned .. it was just like I came home to us ... here is such a feature ...
Alenka212
She comes to warm up ....
posporim
Good day. And tell me, please, for a single room with tiles in the kitchen and bathroom and laminate in the room, with two cats and a long-haired girl 🔗 Is this a robot vacuum cleaner suitable? I look forward to cleaning up dust, hair, crumbs and cat litter. There are no carpets or carpet. Or which one is suitable, advise inexpensive, please, I will be very grateful. Will the Chinese be enough?
Medtech
this is Lilin 277, all long hair will be on the brush, if it is not difficult to clean the brush and cut the hair from thin shafts with nail scissors, then it will do.
Better look yourself without a turbo brush and look at the local market.
posporim
That is, small debris like crumbs and filler crystals should be sucked, will it not go idle? Thanks for the advice, I'll take a closer look at models without a turbo brush. Have a good evening!
Ball is a goof
Quote: posporim
She comes to warm up ....
yes, nooo, it's warm here, she sees the mother (base) in the battery ... that's the catch ...

here's more about long hair ... the panda winds them on the base of the brushes (around the axis) periodically you have to unscrew the screws and remove the accumulated hairs from the axis, but this operation does not cause any difficulties, therefore, this is not a complaint ... so ... message for those choosing a model ...
Alenka212
Quote: Sharik is a goon
here's more about long hair ... the panda winds them on the base of the brushes (around the axis) periodically you have to unscrew the screws
Then I was lucky with Iklebo. All hair is wrapped around the brush.
irisska
Hello. Please advise the robot. Cleaning area about 80 m. The floor is laminate. The rooms are practically adjoining, as they are all located around the hall. at the entrance to each room there are interior sills of 0.5 - 0.7 cm. There is a cat and three long-haired women. I would like to clean up hair, wool and a small amount of crumbs in the kitchen. And, of course, we welcome the budget option.
Medtech
irisska, Panda 500 and periodically locked in rooms for better cleaning.
irisska
Thank you.
And if rumba, then ask in another topic?
Medtech
irisska, this is my opinion, when using rumba, long hair will be all on the brush, it is worth clarifying where the budget option ends and another begins, since the rumba for officials starts from 23, and the Panda can be bought from 17, and Pandas from 14 ... there is ozone quite budget options, from 7 ....
irisska
Yes thank you. I take it the panda has no brushes? The main problem is the wool along the skirting boards. Will he handle it? And yet, where is it better to put the base? In a room or in the center of an apartment? Let me remind you that the apartment is a hall and has four rooms plus a kitchen.
The budget is no more than 30. But 17 is very good.
irisska
What can you say about "Neorobot Phantom 5 Eco"?
Medtech
irisska, Panda has 2 brushes on the side with which she scoops up debris under the suction hole.
I'm not interested in discussing the diversity of the Chinese robot industry, which is produced under different trade names, you have recommendations with my budget estimate, although none of the robots without navigation suits you, you will lock the doors to improve the quality of cleaning and push the robot to the right place or wear it.
irisska
Thank you. The last question is, why is the panda 500 and not 550? And like there are 600 more?
Medtech
irisska, in the Chinese interpretation, 550 was with a conventional turbo brush, so in each case you need to look, but they are made by one plant, who sells and calls it, you can see the whole range here: 🔗
there they are subdivided into all sorts of 600 \ 700 \ 800 light orders for iRobot.
irisska
I don't know, maybe this is a stupid question, but where is it better to buy a panda? In any online store or official dealers? Although I don’t know, in my opinion these are the same online stores, only the price there is for some reason higher, and they call the panda a Japanese robot and the supplies allegedly only from them directly from the factory. Is this such a marketing ploy or is it really possible to run into a fake?
Medtech
irisska, all pandas are made at the same plant of the Lilin group, the sellers continue to compete, who will slap their names, who will stick with a hologram, they are all genuine, all from China from one machine, copied from a Japanese Mammy robot, a pale fake. But for an uncomplicated layout and an area of ​​up to 80m and periodic locking in one room, it works great on smooth surfaces, when choosing, there should be a tick in your head that this is pure China, the Chinese themselves are watching the quality and all components strive for a minimum price.
And as far as I know, if the products are so-so, then the taste of the dish will not become better, unless, of course, it contains a pound of sugar or a taste enhancer in the form of a low price and the nightingale trills of sellers, but no one will cancel the heartburn afterwards. In my opinion, Pandas are now the best of the Chinese robots.
irisska
Thank you. Ordered a panda 500. I hope I will not be disappointed.
posporim
Friends, please tell me where to look for a craftsman who can reflash the Lilin robot? I bought it in Odessa, not a single SC is taken, she says that programmers are never needed ...
tamara
Respond the owners of European robots which vacuum cleaner to choose for the elderly help animals no tiles and laminate and two carpets with brushes to try here there is no such thing only distributors of cool vacuum cleaners they persuade to buy and give a try and give on credit the husband wants a good one and says consult on the forum there they will tell you which one better or tell me a forum where you can read about such robots
Medtech
tamara you should calmly and slowly answer "10 simple questions for choosing a vacuum cleaner robot for a specific apartment", if you have already answered some of the questions, answer again, it is much more pleasant to see all the answers together.
Questions are in the topic or they are easy to find on the Internet.
it is worth clarifying the region of residence, Europe is large and there are some distinctions in sales.
tamara
Found questions in the topic. 1. Cleaning area 70.8 m 2. Kitchen + living room combined 45 m. Bedroom 20 m. Entrance hall 6 m. 3. Laminate and tiles. 4.2 thin fringed bedside rugs, 1 printed carpet 2 x 3m 5. There are no animals 6. No long hair 7. My husband and I will look after. 8. Keep it clean before cleaning the longer the better. 9. Ready if needed. 10. The husband said we'll take a loan if the vacuum cleaner is good. Region of residence in Germany. For a year now, on this forum, the girls advised what to buy a multicooker and oven for the Princess, my husband and I are very happy and grateful for their help, I love this forum a lot of interesting things you can read and learn.
Medtech
tamara, the old man VR-100 is quite suitable for you, try to search, should still be on sale, a robot without navigation does not suit you, you have only two options, kobold 100 or 200 or Millet, this is Klebo Arte for the European region, carpets are not his strong point, but since no animals and long hair will brush too.
The fringe of rugs is always a difficult issue, it is decided on the spot, some users simply bend or tuck under the carpet, some simply shorten.
tamara
Sergey thank you for your help, the husband is sitting at the computer looking at Mille and Klebo Korean is also washing it well, but it was on the Amazon, but now it is not available, it may still be unknown, but on ebee he is only the husband says without a guarantee it is not desirable to take expensive purchases of these two of course, the vacuum cleaner is cheaper than the kobold 200, and the kobold 100 is no longer offered by distributors. We have a distributor's phone number and my husband talked to her today, she offers to bring it to the presentation and can leave it for 3 days, which means that it remains for Millet or Kobold 200
Medtech
tamaraSo look at the Kobold, this is a very good robot, they buy it from us very rarely, it's expensive, you can see Botvac with different numbers, it's almost a Kobold but American, they are very similar, but not equivalent, some topper nodes are designed less qualitatively than those of kobold, maintenance is needed more often and the consequences without maintenance are sometimes fatal. Therefore, Kobold is almost the pinnacle of the creation of dry robotic cleaning, quite condescending to service.
But like any electronics it can break down, because there is a small computer inside which contains several hundred elements, but Vorwerk's service, judging by the reviews of Kobold users in Germany, is at its best.
tamara
Thank you very much from my husband, he said that you are a good fellow that you warned us in advance with which vacuum cleaner there will be less fuss with the service next week, she will give us a term when she will bring you to show and promised to bring some other vacuum cleaners, we will look and I will write to you for sure
Nino4ka
Quote: tamara

Thank you very much from my husband, he said that you are a good fellow that you warned us in advance with which vacuum cleaner there will be less fuss with the service next week, she will give us a term when she will bring you to show and promised to bring some more vacuum cleaners, we will look and I will write to you for sure

I already wrote about my DeeBot D76 in August 14. Time has passed - I will add a review. In general, after cleaning, only a little remains in the very corners, since he physically cannot drive up there. I really like how he cleans along the walls. I have different surfaces: laminate, carpet, dense carpet with a pile of about 0.7 cm.
There was a case recently that I did not come to the base, I just stayed in the middle of the room, but there were no mistakes in my work.
Zinfandel
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tamara
Sergey promised to write when they bring us a robot for a test, brought it yesterday for 3 days tomorrow will come for an answer, buy or not, a very good robot, it cleans well, we only liked why Sergey very quickly leaves to charge did not even go through the whole apartment on a large carpet and cleans but cannot get tangled on rugs with brushes and stop, you probably need to change the rugs and we liked it

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