OrangeN
Quote: Fari
was not interested. I know that neato is also with magnetic tape, only they are different and not interchangeable

Interestingly)) We should read, find out what and how. What just do not come up with now. We live in a good time, sit don't give anything - all the equipment does for you))) Beauty !!!
Fari
Quote: Bagheera
Fari, his movement is not entirely chaotic, it is along the walls, it is in a spiral. And when you do not see it, is the process important and not the result?
I myself dream of Panda x500.
the fact is that I have 4 rooms, a kitchen and a complex corridor. I think he'll just get lost. It is not so important to me how the vacuum cleaner moves in the room. like that he was able to clean the whole apartment by himself and I didn't have to carry him in my arms from room to room.
Fari
Quote: OrangeN
Interestingly)) We should read, find out what and how. What just do not come up with now. We live in a good time, sit don't give anything - all the equipment does for you))) Beauty !!!
and even then it is already too lazy to sort the linen for the washing machine. then load the dishwasher. And the slow cooker should already learn to peel vegetables for itself. But it's actually great. I can't imagine what I would do with 4 children if everything that the technique does was done by hand ...
On Yeast
Quote: OrangeN
Interestingly)) We should read, find out what and how. What just do not come up with now. We live in a good time, sit don't give anything - all the equipment does for you))) Beauty !!!

And don't say. I sit once on a weekend, the washing machine washes the laundry, the dishwasher washes the dishes, the floor is swept by the Panda)))) So I think we lived - not life, but a fairy tale !!!
OrangeN
Yeah, my mother comes to us and (in our country, about the same as your cleaning process goes on), everything is surprised. Each time she remembers how she boiled my diapers and sliders in the evenings, and then ironed them again. And also to wash the floors, dishes, etc. Of course, now it's easier to say.
Glazed
Girls are going to buy Panda X500. Nobody saw the joint venture on him? If you saw, throw it in a personal, please.
OrangeN
I saw. I sent you a link. Have you thought of it?
Glazed
Thank you very much !!! Yes, they did. Tortured with dog hair. There is no longer the strength to remove them. While the money is free, I need to buy it, otherwise I'll spend it)))
OrangeN
Quote: Bagheera
Fari, his movement is not entirely chaotic, it is along the walls, it is in a spiral. And when you do not see it, is the process important and not the result?
I myself dream of Panda x500.

I agree completely. I can't call it chaotic, it's just that Panda has its own cleaning algorithm. Cleaning it results in a clean floor. That is, it performs its function as a robot vacuum cleaner.
On Yeast
Quote: Fari
the fact is that I have 4 rooms, a kitchen and a complex corridor. I think he'll just get lost. It is not so important to me how the vacuum cleaner moves in the room. like that he was able to clean the whole apartment by himself and I didn't have to carry him in my arms from room to room. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=105172.0

And you don't have to wear it. He himself finds his base, he moves around the apartment of any layout. You seem to be confusing Panda with some very cheap garbage.
OrangeN
Quote: Fari
and even then it is already too lazy to sort the linen for the washing machine. then load the dishwasher. And the slow cooker should already learn to peel vegetables for itself. But it's actually great. I can't imagine what I would do with 4 children if everything that the technique does was done by hand ... More: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=105172.0

That's really your truth))) Even with all these gadgets it can be lazy)))) But a lot of time and energy frees up - that's a fact!
Fari
And you don't have to wear it. He himself finds his base, he moves around the apartment of any layout. You seem to be confusing Panda with some very cheap garbage.
no, girls, I'm not confusing. The vaunted rumba also moves chaotically (yes, I don't argue, they have their own algorithm). By chaotic it is meant - not building room maps. This means that in one room the vacuum cleaner can be carried for a long time, and in another it will stumble upon the door almost immediately and not clean it properly, and even skip the third one. Such vacuum cleaners are effective maximum in a two-room apartment, if we talk about cleaning without human intervention, or they need beacons like rumba. But I also don't like the idea of ​​lighthouses, firstly, there are a lot of them - for each room (minus the room with the base), and secondly, I have too many curious people to leave the lighthouses alone, and change the batteries regularly. In general, it's an overhead. Even in the most complete rumba there are only 2 lighthouses out of the 4 I need.

while I'm looking at iclebo art - well, very good in tests and descriptions, another question is that you can write beautifully, I would like the owners to hear more of what is really there
On Yeast
Quote: OrangeN
That's really your truth))) Even with all these gadgets it can be lazy)))) But a lot of time and energy frees up - that's a fact!

And when I lazily start to remember what it is like to wash and wash the dishes myself))) Laziness removes as if by hand))
OrangeN
Quote: On Yeast
And you don't have to wear it. He himself finds his base, he moves around the apartment of any layout. You seem to be confusing Panda with some very cheap garbage.

Moreover, the Panda kit has a remote control that can control it like a toy car. I must say right away that it is better to hide the remote control from children)))
Bagheera
Panda has arrived! Eeeee !! It is worth charging
Glazed
All enrolled in the joint venture. Now I will wait. So far, the required amount has not been reached, so it is not yet clear when I will become the happy owner of the RP.
Bagheera
The panda on the base charges 1.5-2 instead of 5 hours, writes full, and if you move it, it sits down on the contacts again and continues charging with 2 sticks out of 4 ((Who had this?
OrangeN
Quote: Fari
Even in the most complete rumba there are only 2 lighthouses out of the 4 I need.

So you can also buy. As far as I know, they are sold separately. Well, about what is beautifully written, then we are adults and we understand that writing beautifully is not at all difficult. But you have to choose wisely.
On Yeast
Quote: Bagheera
Panda has arrived! Eeeee !! It is worth charging

Congratulations on your purchase of the Panda. Carefully read and study the instructions and use on health.
OrangeN
Quote: Bagheera
The panda on the base charges 1.5-2 instead of 5 hours, writes full, and if you move it, it sits down on the contacts again and continues charging with 2 sticks out of 4 ((Who had this?

On Yeast, everything is correct, if you read it carefully in the instructions, charge the robot for 12 hours before the first use. Full means charged.
Fari
So you can also buy. As far as I know, they are sold separately. Well, about what is beautifully written, then we are adults and we understand that writing beautifully is not at all difficult. But you have to choose wisely.
Well, that's what I'm doing. I don’t like the fact that the brain hasn’t grown in the rumba for so many years - the details have changed a little. I want a smart dust. Therefore, I see 2 options for iclebo and neato. but nito only if the dealership is opened. It is a pity that no one here has such, it would be interesting to listen to. In any case, iclebo in Minsk is given free of charge for a test for 3 days, just like rumba - I'll take and compare before buying. But the soul does not lie to the rumba - I see huge marketing and a good reliable chaotic vacuum cleaner - not what I would like. Eh, if nito had a side brush, I would have spat on the dealership and bought it, but I still doubt it. I really hope that as they promise there will be a representative office in the summer, I would also like to test it before buying in my own real conditions. I will wait, time is enduring, on maternity leave from October 1, I want to resolve the issue before that time
Bagheera
Duc full - charged, and if you remove it from the base and immediately put it back - it is charged again from two sticks to full, about half an hour.
Bagheera
Before the first I charged all night, I found this nonsense on the second day. And yet - if you run it along the walls from scratch, then it works until the first problem (until the brush gets stuck), then it releases and instead of continuing, it again asks you to select the mode. And if he worked in free mode, and I ask him to work along the walls, he makes a circle around him, and goes back to the free search.
OrangeN
Quote: Bagheera
Before the first I charged all night, I found this nonsense on the second day. And yet - if you run it along the walls from scratch, then it works until the first problem (until the brush gets stuck), then it releases and instead of continuing, it again asks you to select the mode. And if he worked in free mode, and I ask him to work along the walls, he makes a circle around him, and goes back to the free search. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...on=com_smf&topic=105172.0

Something is wrong with him. Better contact the service center. Call and explain the essence of the problem, maybe there is some kind of marriage or you are doing something wrong.
On Yeast
Yes, Pandu is clearly jammed. Call and understand. Nothing wrong with that. I had similar technical stories. He's on a guarantee, what are you worried about.
mowgli
I'm not campaigning for Rumba. I have it for the second year, it cleans up the carpet better and it is not necessary, but the linoleum is already unbearable .. And so that the chaos does not irritate, it is better to leave
Glazed
Quote: Fari
In any case, iclebo in Minsk is given free of charge for a test for 3 days, just like rumba - I'll take and compare before buying.

Yeah, I would do that too. If possible, take it of course. How much does the test cost? Did you find it in an online store in Minsk?
toffee
That's why I got into this topic? I want rumba, but like many, the price stops. Here I looked at Panda. Went to 24 -free.com, was late for discounts. I watched the video clip, it seemed like a very small container for dust. x500 as you read here does not climb on the carpet? or am I wrong? We have a dog, but a short-haired one. As such, there is no hair from her, but from us dear mother! Every time I swear, sorry, I swear when the floor is mine. And I read you that it is problematic to clean it from the roller (with scissors, then with tweezers). Oops! I once had such a brush in a vacuum cleaner. As I remember all these manipulations, I shudder.
I ask you to expel me from this topic.
OrangeN
Girls, I'll tell you how we gave Panda to friends for a test drive. We have a small Jack Russell Terrier dog, and we have a lot of hair at home. They took my robot to test, otherwise they were exhausted with wool. Yes, and he constantly gnaws food, and he falls on the floor and then rolls all over the kitchen. Well, they were very pleased. The doggie carefully studied a new object for him, then when Panda went to vacuum, he began to play with it - you see, he thought that it was bought for him a companion for games))) They will also take it now.
Fari
Quote: Glazed
Yeah, I would do that too. If possible, take it of course. How much does the test cost? Did you find it in an online store in Minsk?
the test is 10 euros, but if you buy it later, it’s free (the money goes towards the cost). we also have it in online stores, but you can buy or take for a test right at the dealership. Rumba test is also somewhere around that, I don't remember - 10-15 euros.
Quote: mowgli
And so that the chaos does not annoy, it is better to leave
the point is not that it will annoy me, I will find something to do with myself instead of spying on the vacuum cleaner, I suspect, based on what I have read, that the area is too large and there are many rooms for rumba. not only can it miss something without a bunch of beacons, but also the battery is most likely not enough for everything. and she does not know how, after recharging, to start from where she left off.

Well, I have no carpets, so there will be no questions about the passability. the main questions are to force the younger ones to always remove the toys, or else the robot that will pick them up from the floor has not yet been invented
Bagheera
OrangeN, On Yeast, They said about charging - that's how it should be About the modes of operation are silent for now.
Irma
Hello everyone, I read this Temko for a long time, I decided to write too. I have a Panda recently, since the beginning of April, I no longer look at the randomness of movements, the main thing is clearing away. On the carpet it drives into a thick one if the edges of the carpet do not lift up and it lies firmly on the floor. Otherwise, the vacuum cleaner drives under the carpet with a brush and turns in the other direction. I have been looking for a base for a long time, I don't have the patience to watch him go in the opposite direction from the base and help him with the remote control. So he himself never returned there. Perhaps I got such a stupid Panda, or maybe the Chinese began to hack, the declared function of detecting dirt also works spontaneously for me, and not where there really is dirt. For example, he ignores the rug in the hallway with enhanced suction, but in the middle of an absolutely clean floor, he can begin to work in a spiral and zealously buzz pretending that he has found a pile of garbage. But even with his work like this, the robot cleans up quite well and I am very pleased that once a week I just wash the floor without using a large heavy vacuum cleaner.
And another question is this. Girls, is it necessary to drive it every cleaning before the battery is completely discharged? With daily use, Panda cleans up a three-room apartment without having time to discharge the battery to the end, and he is going to go to the base only when the charging resource has run out or I will forcibly send him there.
natushka
Irma, it works for me exactly the same one to one. I also send it to the base myself, I also do not have time to completely discharge it - I have a kopeck piece.
Irma
natushka, Thank you. Otherwise, in doubts, it is necessary to discharge it completely each time, or did the job and let him rest
toffee
Girls, on Ozone there is a robot x robot XR-510A. The price is over 5 thousand. And on the official website it's 10 thousand. Well, it's very tempting. What kind of model? Who faced?
OrangeN
Quote: mowgli
I'm not campaigning for Rumba. I have it for the second year, it cleans up the carpet better and it is not necessary, but the linoleum is already unbearable .. And so that the chaos does not irritate, it is better to leave

And that's true)) But in general it is not annoying and I try to run it when we are not at home. You come, everything is already clean in the apartment.
On Yeast
Quote: iris. ka
I watched the video clip, it seemed like a very small container for dust. x500 as you read here does not climb on the carpet? or am I wrong?

Container for Panda X500 0.45 liters. He is not even very small. Judge for yourself, if it were bigger, where would it fit? And we will not kick you out because we know what a thrill it is when a robot vacuum cleaner vacuums for you))) It drives into carpets without problems, it happens that carpets are very thin and can bully, but this problem can be solved if desired.
OrangeN
Quote: Fari
the test is 10 euros, but if you buy it later, it’s free (the money goes towards the cost). we also have it in online stores, but you can buy or take for a test right at the dealership. Rumba test is also somewhere around that, I don't remember - 10-15 euros.

Not to say it's cheap. In Russia it costs 2-3 times cheaper. But it is better to give them away than to regret buying later. Well, at the expense of toys, you can decide. A couple of times they will disappear (not without your help) from the floor, they will start cleaning. And then toys for good behavior come back))) My daughter always remembers the cartoon about Fedorin's grief and she is always in order.
OrangeN
Quote: Bagheera
ApelsinkaN, NaDrozhzhah, they said about charging - that's how it should be About the modes of operation are silent for now.

In the sense of being silent? Did they promise to call you back or what? And what exactly did they say about charging?
On Yeast
Quote: Irma
I have been looking for a base for a long time, I don't have the patience to watch him go in the opposite direction from the base and help him with the remote control. So he himself never returned there.

It is very strange. Maybe your base is unsuccessful and it is difficult for him to find it. If you read the instructions, then there are recommendations for installing the base. Read, maybe this is the problem.
toffee
Today I was in a large home appliances store. There are two vacuum cleaners: LG and Samsyng. They don't give for testing. Both have a turbo brush.Swim - we know what kind of crap.
Bagheera
OrangeN, they promised to write to the mail. About charging - that when a full is reached, and when it is removed-set to the base without cleaning, the robot starts charging again with two pokes, 15-25 minutes until the next full. But they asked not to abuse it, they say, the battery is killing.
Nadia P.
Bagheera, if you run the Panda along the walls, then when the brush gets stuck, the vacuum cleaner stops, or if it gets lost "in three pines". This is not a malfunction, mine is exactly the same. If there is nothing along the walls, then the Panda goes around everything unhindered.
OrangeN
Bagheera, Well then wait for an answer. Then tell us what they wrote. The most interesting one. And those who have robotic vacuum cleaners will come in handy.
On Yeast
Quote: iris. ka
Today I was in a large home appliances store. There are two vacuum cleaners: LG and Samsyng. They don't give for testing. Both have a turbo brush. Swim - we know what kind of crap.

It's a shame. And what did you decide? I, too, immediately gave up the thought of a turbo brush. Now I was convinced that I did the right thing)))
OrangeN
That's right. The turbo brush is still a hassle. Although some users write that cleaning it is easy and simple. But somehow I doubt it very much.
Fari
Well, the turbo brush does have some pluses. whatever one may say, but the suction power is small for all of them, except that neato is higher. I was recommended such a thing for cleaning 🔗 theoretically it is for a rumba, but practically it can be shredded under any brush. they say cleans very well and quickly
OrangeN
Quote: Nadia P.
Bagheera, if you run the Panda along the walls, then when the brush gets stuck, the vacuum cleaner stops, or if it gets lost "in three pines". This is not a malfunction, mine is exactly the same. If there is nothing along the walls, then the Panda goes around everything unhindered.

Hope, I have the same thing. He meets an obstacle and begins to think about what to do next. But this does not affect the quality of cleaning.
On Yeast
Today I almost had an emergency again and again with water. She carried water to water the flowers and passed by Panda. And the water leaked right next to him (((Still a little bit and would be left again without her assistant (((
OrangeN
On Yeast, He's some kind of bewitched))) Take care of him and no longer walk past the RP with water.

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