Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

But a little higher model, I asked BOMANN MBG 1248 CB, did you look? I ordered in the store, wrote that in three days the order will arrive and so far silence. But they won't call me in Minsk.

I don't know anything about this model.
So, I can’t help you.

I don't know anything about this model.
So, I can’t help you.

And if you look and evaluate with the master's eye, well, as if they were choosing for themselves.

And if you look and evaluate with the master's eye, well, as if they were choosing for themselves.

NNS, rushed, what would be a reference to the stove.
Is this one?

NNS, as a person who saves space, I am confused by the dimensions of the stove you proposed.
Here, once again ran on this topic, see:
NNS, as a person who saves space, I am confused by the dimensions of the stove you proposed.

Here, once again ran on this topic, see:
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9411.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9411.0
These are the dimensions for stoves for 30 and 33 liters.
Something strange, maybe then you should choose from 30-33 liters?
You will win in the size of a baking sheet.

Why, it fits me in size. I was attracted by the "self-cleaning" interior coating and the Germany brand. And also the fact that it is almost 40 cm high. I’m subconsciously looking for 26L under Rolsen.

NNS, I don't believe in Germany, I believe in China! Good factory China.
I can’t say anything about self-cleaning - I don’t know, I didn’t have it.
And Rolsen is 26 liters much smaller, there is a width of 45, a depth (with handles and pins on the rear) -33, and a height of only 30, only 33 (I don’t remember exactly, but once again it’s too lazy to wool the topic.

Why is that, I'm talking about the brand, and the country of manufacture is China! Already so dear .... Interestingly, in Germany itself, their brands are sold of Chinese origin. For example, a seller of household appliances in our Minsk market was surprised that many people ask for stoves, and not bring them from Moscow, and upset that there is no Rollsen brand center.

They brought me a Rolsen KW 2525.
I haven't cooked anything yet, so I can't answer anything concrete.
But! The sizes are not much different from 26!
Although outwardly, just a "dachshund", not a stove.

Why, congratulations!
Please, a comparative analysis with your first stove. Maybe then I will not take a steam bath and order this model.

NNS, thanks!
Tomorrow I will heat, wash and bake a casserole, cottage cheese. By the evening, I think there will be a report (in the morning I run on business)))
I ordered it again at the Technopark.
This time I took the white one, not the black one. And I immediately noticed that the handles (the handles themselves), round, are not very convenient to turn, although they are corrugated. At 26 it is more convenient to twist, there they are made like a gas stove.
Although, if it works well, then these are trifles.

Report:
I baked a casserole for my daughter.
Live photo of a working Rolsen KW 2525 stove:

Rolsen KW 26 (for comparison):

The door is fixed like this:

Or completely full opening.

Pens:

External dimensions:
Width-48
Depth - 30 (with handles and with a pin that is the lock on the rear - 34)
Height - 30

Inside:
Width - 34 (without a pin for a skewer, with it less, 33 so.
Depth - 28cm
Height - 20 (between filament elements)
Well, it seems that she knew, then she wrote.

Who will tell you at what minimum distance from the walls of the stove furniture can be located? That is, for example, for example, it can be put in a pencil case 55 cm wide (without a door - just shelves, but with a back wall) if the stove is 50 cm wide?
I understand that a greater distance is better, but is there any information about this?
Are there any distance indications in the instructions?

Why a lot, thanks for the report.
Now, if only to lay out the finished dish !!! And if ..... dreaming! Do the handles of 25L spin easily? Maybe glue the little pups there.
I noticed on the forum - there is an oral description of the stove of this or that model, you will think about it. And when you see the beauty that you can cook, you will light up!

NNS, they ate the casserole for a long time. The stove is still on the box, in the room, waiting for us to attach it to its place. So, while I'm not cooking anything, maybe on Thursday and Friday.

I was in Comfi and saw Scarlet ovens on sale. Girls, share your feedback about them. How do they bake, what they are capable of, etc. Maybe buy yourself?

Girls who got Bork from? How is it in operation? I really wanted to buy Delonghi, but we don't have them

Girls who got Bork from? How is it in operation? I really wanted to buy Delonghi, but we don't have them

Where are we?
Bork is not standing with their glass heating elements

I beg your pardon, I am from Minsk. I understand that this device is not worth that kind of money, but I really want an oven. Maybe someone has already tried this unit?

[Masha22]

Masha22 You don't need to buy Bork! Buy any non-name like Ariete or Clatronic, but not Bork

I beg your pardon, I am from Minsk. I understand that this device is not worth that kind of money, but I really want an oven. Maybe someone has already tried this unit?

I am also from Minsk and have already written. that we have almost no choice. So I ordered from Moscow. There is a nice girl to bring for 10% of the cost.

Can you throw the coordinates of this girl in a personal, pliz? Very necessary!!! Which oven did you choose?

Can you throw the coordinates of this girl in a personal, pliz? Very necessary!!! Which oven did you choose?

I ordered a Rollsen 3025 for 30 liters. After a long agonizing election. And it has already been bought and on Saturday I am picking it up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Save the girls who can. the stove was brought a couple of hours ago - I set it to max. degrees for 10 min. ignite. I sit and watch - everything is fine. And when I wanted to open it, it turned out only a little. What does it mean? She that will cool down and open? And how can you check the readiness of the dish. Or is it "lucky" for me. The husband is away. I'm afraid to use force. What to do? Save?

Oh, NNS, I just saw your message. I have never had this!
How are you doing now?

NNS, it happens that such small things are glued to the glass two of the oven for transportation. Peel them off before the first use. We were shown when the oven was checked in the store. Or have you already found the reason?

Thank you for not leaving one with a problem. Well I also defrosted the puff yeast dough (true store), cooked chicken legs, calcined and ... I threw out the dough, fried the legs in a frying pan. And she fell into depression. I didn't find anything about "It" on the Internet, I even called the oven repairmen - nothing concrete. My brother advised to take it back to the store in Moscow (from Minsk). Oh .... But in the evening my husband came from hunting ... and ... poked around where the door opens with a screwdriver .. and lo and behold, everything opened and worked. I'm happy to go to the store for the dough. I bought puff yeast and made pineapple puffs. The husband quickly ate it, satisfied. I'M GLAD! Today in terms of my favorite meat is French. I realized that I have almost no baking dishes. I need to buy something. Advise something the most versatile.

[NNS,]

S .. But in the evening my husband came from hunting ..

Oh, well, thank God ... all the same, husbands are sometimes so in the subject.

NNS,! Congratulations on your purchase, you need to wash it so that it works well

As for the forms - I have a lot of all and silicone ones, including. But recently it has become interesting to bake in metal ones - heating is more uniform, hence the result. Food grade aluminum is even better.

[SWIFTA]

I was in Comfi and saw Scarlet ovens on sale. Girls, share your feedback about them. How do they bake, what they are capable of, etc. Maybe buy yourself?

SWIFTA, only now they began to receive notifications, I have a scarlett for 18 liters from Comfi, I wrote in the subject, good, now I'll look ...only, it is really desktop and mini. Accordingly, all the features arising from this - somehow - must be carefully monitored so that the excess does not catch on top, heats up and bakes very quickly (this is +), without convection (in such a volume it is not needed, everyone here agreed on this). Because in the same place it costs next to convection and is more expensive. Do not sniff.


On page 13 I saw that you had already tortured me about this stove ... a year ago yet ...

I just thought about the form for baking bread in the oven.

I found this one, 162r, 30 by 11, steel.
Do you think the bread will not stick in it?
Teflon of the same company 245r. Maybe you shouldn't save?
Tescoma 345p the same shape costs ...

[Whymuchka]

Whymuchka , according to the forms we have a whole topic: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=22419.0
The one that you show, I saw alive. It is quite thin. To prevent sticking, you can smear with non-stick grease.

[Omela]

The one that you show, I saw alive. It is quite thin. To prevent sticking, you can smear with non-stick grease.

OmelaThanks for pointing out the topic. I'll read it.
So Teflon ...

So Teflon ...

Well, you decide for yourself. Take a quality one. And then, the girls over there write that it sticks in Teflon.
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=151601.0

[Omela]

Omela, easy off.
I'm baking in the pie pan for now. It turns out very tasty - you have to bake 2 cakes in a day.
So, I will not be greedy, I will buy something decent thread. I went to finish reading the topic at your link.

I just thought about the form for baking bread in the oven.

[IRR,]

IRR, and the firm

Manufacturer: Fakelman GMBH, Germany. The maximum temperature of use is 230C.?

Maybe it's true, go into the topic: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=22419.0
Now I will bring a moderator on us ...

[SWIFTA]

SWIFTA, only now they began to receive notifications, I have a scarlett for 18 liters from Comfi, I wrote in the subject, good, now I will look ... only, it is really desktop and mini. Accordingly, all the features arising from this - somehow - must be carefully monitored so that the excess does not catch on top, heats up and bakes very quickly (this is +), without convection (in such a volume it is not needed, everyone here agreed on this). Because in the same place it costs next to convection and is more expensive. Do not sniff.


On page 13 I saw that you had already tortured me about this stove ... a year ago yet ...

Yes, I remember, I remember. But when I was about to buy a stove, they brought me an old "Dream". And I relaxed. Although she is old, she baked well. Unfortunately, not for long. The upper heating element burned out ... And the fairy tale ended ... Now the search for the stove began again. And she asked in the hope that some new data had appeared during this time. All the same, I prefer the 30-liter stove. But I'm still making up my mind. And our family is two people: my husband and me. But I would like to bake in the oven and bread, not just buns. So I think.

I will slowly crawl out of the corner !?

In addition to the fact that you want Mini - but from the mini the largest, respectively, with convection (probably)
The most important electricity can go down to 180 (this is after the stabilizer - in the network at such a minute -135)
Panasonic bakes regularly, no matter what.
AG - there is not enough energy and it happens that it is not baked. Therefore, it is in demand according to the maxim only in the summer - when the energy is better.
So many interesting baking recipes

NNS, how is your stove doing there?

Hello everyone and especially why! I am now as after graduating from a university - I seem to know the theory, but there is not enough practice. Here I baked pies with jam, I really liked my (husband, son, daughter), and I had one more with mushrooms and onions. The French meat turned out wonderful - but out of excitement I forgot to salt and pepper it, cheese and mayonnaise saved me. Now I'm pre-marinating the chicken carcass and will cook on a baking sheet (I'm afraid to try the skewer - there is no other chicken).

And now about the "sad" things. Rather, those little things that do not quite suit.At the middle level, the baking sheet may fall out, since it is a couple of millimeters shorter than necessary and it happens that it falls off on one side. Hmm ... The upper ten, closest to me, does not heat up properly on the right side and the pastries in this place are browned later than everyone else. I save myself by getting it out on the other side earlier, and I shove these to the left. The handles in my stove are black, round, and the markings on them are black. even I am very tense with my vision. But I found a way out. I applied white lines with French manicure varnish and now everything is clearly visible. Why didn't the manufacturer do this?

And I still can't buy a uniform for myself. It seems that I decided to take a silicone round and glass transparent square. Something I have become so picky about dishes. It seems like a trifle ...

[NNS,]

NNS, It's a shame how! Little things, little things, but the pleasure is not the same!
Is the grill okay? Doesn't fall out?
To be honest, I only bake on my own molds, my teflon ones, it's more convenient for me. I put them on the bars.
I thought about the form made of glass, but did not dare - I was afraid that it would be hard for the stove with something else, if I remember the instructions correctly, then there is up to 3 kg? Or was it my own invention?
Mine, 25 liters, does not heat very evenly, but it's still better than my gas oven in the stove, so I'm not particularly upset.
NNS, congratulations once again to the new assistant!

Hello everyone!
We bought a Rollsen oven for 30L
sizes if necessary I will write
they also put it in a pencil case with an open back and front, only the side walls, and top and bottom cabinets - the side walls from the oven do not heat up, only the upper shelf, which is 10 centimeters above the oven, heats up a little

my baking sheet normally fits into the guides, although half a millimeter would still be needed, but it never fell, and the grate slid off - my husband took to work (works at the factory) - a little grate was stretched there - now it enters resiliently and does not creep

I bake and cook in Regent silicone molds - two tins of 6 muffins are ideal for a round cake with a diameter of 25 cm, and in a ceramic casserole dish - I made cottage cheese casserole, curd cakes, French meat, curls with sausage and cheese from puff pastry (baked on a baking sheet from the oven, with baking paper, indentations in the baking sheet, about which they wrote here - they absolutely do not interfere), kefir pie - everything is baked perfectly, I am in complete happiness. We bake bread in a bread maker, I can't say anything about bread, but the kefir pie is super baked - such an elastic airy biscuit turned out
Yes, I also noticed that the near right corner is underfrying - the cupcake in this corner was lighter than the others, but inside it was baked just like the rest

useful area of ​​the lattice between the sides - 29x33
the spit pin is short, shorter than the sides of the baking sheet and wire rack - and absolutely does not interfere
the door that frightened the NNS was done on purpose - at first it opens 10 cm, it stops a little - it is fixed - and then you pull it and open it to the end - as I understand it, it was done specifically for cooling down - Whymochka on page 28 in Reply # 545 03 Dec. 2011, 19:54 gave a photo from the side

my stove is white - there are no problems with rotary knobs and graduations

in general, my husband and I are very happy - I am with the cooking process, my husband is with the results)))))

OksanaD about the door, you did not understand, I had a breakdown, the door was jammed, it did not open completely at all. It shouldn't have been this way.

Yesterday I cooked a chicken. I laid out her beauty on a baking sheet "like tobacco" (mine so wanted). But I could only shove it into the upper division (from the lower and from the middle, due to the severity, it fell out). In short, I see an uncomfortable chick from above - shoots with fat. I took out my legs, cut off the wings and finished it in the middle position. And the rest is on gas. In short, the spit is waiting for me.

Hello everyone!
We bought a Rollsen oven for 30L
sizes if necessary I will write
they also put it in a pencil case with an open back and front, only the side walls, and top and bottom cabinets - the side walls from the oven do not heat up, only the upper shelf, which is 10 centimeters above the oven, heats up a little

Oksana, thanks for the answer.Or you can take a picture of the oven in the pencil case.
I'm also thinking about buying it and putting it there. So I think how it will be.

[power]

Merry Christmas and everyone!
I read 1/3 of the topic, I can’t stand it anymore, I’ll ask the fact that it’s easier for me to choose according to technical characteristics, and since I’ve cooked on gas all my life, I have no idea about the effect of some numbers on the quality of baking. And so, in order:
1) The first and most important thing is power ovens. As I found, there are from 1300 to 1800W, but how much is really needed to fire up the oven with a pie, say, up to 220C?
2) Inner space... Requirements: width not less than 37cm, depth not less than 30cm, and height not less than 18cm from the baking sheet on the lowest shelf to the "ceiling". This is about 21 liters, but I feel that I need to buy more.
3) Timer - what does he do? a) beeps about readiness, b) turns off the heating element, c) delayed start function.
4) Convection... I read that it is good, especially when cooking on 2 baking sheets at the same time. Probably worth buying with this feature?
5) Thermostat... Are there electric stoves without it? Honestly, I don't know, I never had it, but IMHO thing is useful.
6) Backlight... I always dreamed of her, so as not to shine a flashlight. How necessary is it?

7) A separate question about the presence of heating "pancakes" on top of the oven, like this one: "LUXELL LX3577 mini oven + 3 pancakes". Now there is no stove, so I'm thinking of taking a stove + oven. The only confusing thing is that when the stove is on the table, it will be inconvenient to stir anything in a frying pan / saucepan.

Please, if not difficult, write down some of the numerical parameters of your stoves and yes / no for the last points. Thank you in advance!
After the 11th I go to the store for the stove, it's already half a year like hotzza pies ...

[Oca]

Oca , I can write about my mini oven Delta (Turkey) for 35 liters. 1300W. Without lighting, convection, thermostat, etc. NO - 2 trays!!!! For me, it was decisive when choosing. Buns from 500g. flour is stacked !!! So, my advice is to look at the place, what to choose from, because mostly the stoves are tall and narrow, while mine is wide and low. There is enough power, nothing burns. And at home for 22 years. power 1600W, so it is impossible to bake anything. Good luck with your choice.

shl. The timer switches on the oven and switches off at the end of the time. And yet, I also considered the issue of combining the oven and stove, but refused. I bought a tabletop separately. Because the oven heats up during baking, and as you rightly noted, it is inconvenient to cook in a saucepan - high.

If you look at my recipes, everything that is made in the summer, everything is in the Delta. Here are buns from Gasha, for example,

Or bread: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=136723.0

[Omela]

Simply fantastic! Omela, BRAVO! Adorable buns !!!
If it's not a secret, what are the letters in the oven after Delta? The prices are all different and the functions too. I counted up to 5 thousand, because the usual large oven costs so much.

[Wasp]

If it's not a secret, what are the letters in the oven after Delta?

Wasp, here I wrote about her: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=9411.0... It cost something about 3000 rubles, but in internet stores you could buy it cheaper.

Girls, does anyone know anything about Clathronic? I'm looking for my mom ... and her main baking is a specialty cake, that is, the size of the baking sheet determines the size of the whole cake. Therefore, Scarlet at 18 liters seems too small ... or not? Clathronic is 2 times more expensive to read, but it will not be used often, so I don’t want to overpay, and the extra space was taken. It was also embarrassing that Scarlett, seen in Comfi, had a door on one side that did not fit, should you pay attention? And then how to choose? Overkill? Clathronic "alive" I don't know where to look