Tabletop ovens, stoves ...

Soooo ... At first I read, read the topic, I thought that all the choice was made. Yeah, no matter how it is.
I wanted Rolsen for 26 liters, I read it right now until the end (there are already fresh January messages), I wanted his own current for 30 liters. I just didn't understand:
1.In Rolsen, shades are not individually included?
2. About the ten which the fan should have (someone wrote that this is the very thing) they also do not have this?
3. Is there still one baking sheet?
4. Girls, write how much this stuff weighs, if I buy it, I'll hang it on the brackets.

[Whymuchka]

WhymuchkaI was interested in WHAT was baked? in the microwave? if there, then in what way: microwaves or a combined method or something else? a plate under the buns, it looks like a microwave oven (or is it a detachable bottom.)? ..

Oh, sorry, I didn't understand.
I have a 25-liter Rolsen mini-oven, and baked in it. This teflon frying pan from an old kit from the 90's is still alive and well behaved.

2. About the ten which the fan should have (someone wrote that this is the very thing) they also do not have this?

I wrote this exclusively about microwave oven with convection. Mini-stoves, in my opinion, do not have such ring shadows. There is an upper, lower shadow and a fan on the side.
I won't tell you about Rolsen, I don't know. I have Energy for 20 liters, the tens are switched on separately, the fan is a separate button.

[Wasp]

Resolved, take LUXELL LX-3520 Turbo.

Wasp, great choice!!!! Today I have been wooling the Internet all day and also fell for it. But we don't have it in stock. As the Turkish sellers explained to me after their earthquake, they work for themselves and there are no supplies. I chose between the Chinese Erisson and our Redber. I decided on a domestic manufacturer:
Redber EO-4290



General characteristics:
Power, W 1800
Volume, l 42
Setting the oven temperature, deg. 0 - 230
Cooking timer, minutes 0 - 60 / continuous operation
Weight, kg 10.55
Packing dimensions, mm 640x460x420
Operating modes:
- defrosting
- grill / skewer / convection
- baking / convection
- roasting / skewer / convection
- frying / convection
- frying

[Omela]

I chose between the Chinese Erisson and our Redber. I decided on a domestic manufacturer: Redber EO-4290

Omela , Congratulations! the torment is over. So is this a Russian model? I didn’t know, you couldn’t tell by sight. I really like it both externally and internally, but it costs from 4 kilo rubles. And I did not find information as to whether the heating elements are turned on separately and whether convection is turned off with a button / knob. Luxel chose from poverty (I managed to spend money on AG), because something better from 3000r costs. And now he is not in stores either - they did not work on holidays, and now it is not available for order, today I called again to clarify.

Wasp. look. what did you find:



Main characteristics

Volume - 45 L
Power - 2000 W
Power supply - 220-240 V
Timer - yes, for 60 minutes
Temperature conditions - 100-250C
The number of heating modes - 4
Sound signal - yes
Airfryer function - yes
Internal lighting - yes
Red indicator light - yes
additional characteristics

Additional switch for grill and convection - yes
Body - steel
Door handle - steel
Material of switches, legs - plastic, black
Door - heat-resistant glass
Heating elements - 4 steel tubes (2 tubes at the top and bottom)
Dimensions - 597x385x412 mm
Weight - 9.4 kg
The site has a telephone in Krasnodar:

And in Anapa
Address: Krasnodar Territory, Anapa, st. Anapa highway, 1A
Phones: 8 (86133) 3-46-99; 8-960-479-57-47

And you say the agony is over !!! I don't know which one is better. You won't find Luxell for sure. I called everything right now.

[Omela]

[I decided on a domestic manufacturer:
Redber EO-4290

Omela, a pretty stove and a lot of functions. Congratulations!
It's good when the place allows you to choose what you want.

[Omela]

Omela, a pretty stove and a lot of functions.

Do you think ??? I’m already worn out. Bribes what they do at the defense plant (there is nothing else to do). And the service is there. if that mmm. And Domos, I don't know what kind of company it is. They don't even write on the official website, which, by the way, is very alarming! Yes, there is a place - I will put it on a non-working stove.

Wasp. look. what I found for you. And you say the agony is over !!! I don't know which one is better. You won't find Luxell for sure. I called everything right now.

it's impossible! Another option. There is a call forwarding to Domostroy. I just talked with their consultant today, he advised me the same brand, but for 55 liters! Of course I was delighted, but where to put this elephant? I rush between "a set of 2 baking sheets and a wire rack", compactness (elongation in breadth, not upward), only so that the existing baking dishes fit in and ..... and I want white
P.S. Happy New Year!

Do you think ??? I’m already worn out. Bribes what they do at the defense plant (there is nothing else to do). And the service is there. if that mmm. And Domos, I don't know what kind of company it is. They don't even write on the official website, which, by the way, is very alarming! Yes, there is a place - I will put it on a non-working stove.

If I remember correctly, someone already wrote in the subject that they bought a Redber, but of a smaller size. The reviews were positive.

I just talked with their consultant today, he advised me the same brand, but for 55 liters! Of course I was delighted, but where to put this elephant? I rush between "a set of 2 baking sheets and a wire rack", compactness (elongation in breadth, not upward), only so that the existing baking dishes fit in and ..... and I want white
P.S. Happy New Year!

IMHO, but 55 liters is too much. Well this is how much electricity it eats with such a volume? And I suppose she's healthy.

IMHO, but 55 liters is too much. Well this is how much electricity it eats with such a volume? And I suppose she's healthy.

+1.

And it can be called a desktop one conditionally, with such a volume ... (it will take a lot of space)

Girls, we have Lykselsov in an ordinary bazaar, well, just heaps ... today I ran into them head-on-head, white little ones, all with convection

[Wasp]

all with convection

Well, I don’t know .... with convection, they have only one that Wasp chose, with the inscription TURBO.

Girls, we have Lykselsov at the usual bazaar, well, just heaps ... all with convection

I would be very grateful if you could tell us the letters and numbers of the models (sometimes they are written on the back of the stove), and it would also be nice to check the presence of convection holes - where are they? Having tested the "force of convection" in the airfryer, I will buy the stove only in this function.

[Altusya]

Soooo ... At first I read, read the topic, I thought that all the choice was made. Yeah, no matter how it is.
I wanted Rolsen for 26 liters, I read it right now until the end (there are already fresh January messages), I wanted his own current for 30 liters. I just didn't understand:
1.In Rolsen, shades are not individually included?
2. About the ten which the fan should have (someone wrote that this is the very thing) they also do not have this?
3. Is there still one baking sheet?
4. Girls, write how much this stuff weighs, if I buy it, I'll hang it on the brackets.

Altusya Hi
I have a Rollsen 30L
1.the upper heating element is switched on separately, the lower one is not. For convection, the holes in the right wall above the hole under the spit and below the hole under the spit - that is, both the upper and lower levels will be blown. One baking sheet, one grate - if you bake buns or cookies, for example - you can put the second level on the grate - put, for example, a silicone sheet for baking, or what form to put on the grate - and the problem of the absence of a second pan will be solved - really no one guessed - straight such a problem was done here due to the presence of the current of one baking sheet ...
2.already answered above

3.I will not say for sure by weight - my husband put it - I did not lift it - right now I raised it by the edge - well, 3-5 kilos, not much more - straight light at all, there I gave my pictures above - in my pencil case I have an oven and below the microwave oven - here it is three times heavier - it is even difficult to lift it by the edge, and before buying a pencil case the microwave oven stood on a homemade shelf - my husband made two iron triangles, stuffed boards on them - no problem, so feel free to put the oven on the brackets. Products more than 3 kg there still cannot be shoved, so the total weight will also not be heavier than a TV or microwave

OksanaD, oh thanks, thanks for your feedback.
Already clearing up in my head.
Here the people on LUXELL are already swinging, but I'm still thinking something. I need it or not

Here the people on LUXELL are already swinging, but I'm still thinking something. I need it or not

And you look at the volume of the oven, if there are any baking dishes, choose by their size. Really find / glue an oven-sized box and it will become clear whether the internal volume of Rolsen is enough for you or not. I like this model, but a little bit cramped ... True, I want to have 2 lattices in the set, and not 2 baking sheets - I was tormented with oiled paper. Now I try to bake "in glass", I dream of a large glass baking sheet from it cookies-buns come off without any oil (flour, paper, bread crumbs, etc.) - I just tilt the mold and they slide onto the plate. I try not to think about the cost of the baking sheet.

[Omela]

I decided on a domestic manufacturer:
Redber EO-4290

Omela, the manufacturer is good, the products are also. I have been using their stove with a quartz grill for six months already. For a long time I was looking for a similar stove for myself, settled on a domestic one and never regretted it.

[Trendy]

Trendy , Thank you! I just brought my beauty home !!! It was successful the second time, yesterday my husband got into a traffic jam, arrived too late and in the dark did not find a store. What can I say .. Made really high quality. The top is durable - does not miss. BUT!!!!! In appearance you can't say that 42 liters !!!!! This is all miniature. I am all worried about my rolls. But now there is no turning back. While standing in the box. Later I'll take a picture and write all the sizes.

[Redber 4290]

Well, actually, here. Redber 4290 (42l. With convection). Manufacturer - Votkinsk plant, but manufactured in China.

Appearance:
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In the on state, the light is on:
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Inside there are 4 guides for a baking sheet or wire shelf:
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Switches:
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Dimensions:
width 55.5cm, depth 33cm (+ 2cm limiter to the wall), height 34cm
lattice 40.5cm x 30cm
baking tray (inner size) 34.5cm x 26.5cm

Outwardly sooooo beautiful !!! Hope to be friends !! So far, I'm even afraid, because I have never used convection.

Girls, what is the difference between quartz ten and stainless steel?

Yana, I have never washed a shade in my life

here they are, when they are open, they are splattered with splashes .. if you do not wipe the stove regularly stink It smells like smoke ... but just the heating elements absorb especially oil ... I have that micowave that I wanted to take for baking turned on on the grill ... smoke and stink the smoke went ... ... in general, she stayed with the owners ...

Girls, what is the difference between quartz ten and stainless steel?

yes, it is necessary to call the Experts .. where are our vanya28 and sazalexter?

lattice 40.5cm x 30cm
baking tray (inner size) 34.5cm x 26.5cm
Outwardly sooooo beautiful !!! Hope to be friends !! So far, I'm even afraid, because I have never used convection.

Really beautiful! Congratulations! With convection, I think make friends. A friend told me that in her convection oven, pies are baked in a matter of minutes and the crust is even.
Thank you very much for your measurements! Now the choice has decreased for one model, 30cm end-to-end (maybe more from glass to the back wall?). I want a stove ..... not high, but deep.

[Wasp]

I want a stove ..... not high, but deep.

Wasp, Delta, but they are without convection and Luxell.

30cm back to back (maybe more from glass to the back wall?).

If end-to-end from the back wall to the door along the side wall - 32.5 cm.Plus there the door is convex to the outside, but here I can’t measure it in any way ..

[Omela]

Omela, thanks again! I wish you more delicious rolls and buns to bake!
While I have no luck with the oven ... But today I bought two Erisson table tiles (ET-113 and ET-117). They ended up with a built-in thermostat - they themselves maintain the set temperature. I don’t know if this is good or not: sometimes you need to quickly boil the water, and sometimes you just need to keep it boiling. The tiles turned out to be very "smart" for me - they work and turn off for 5-30 seconds.

[Keti]

Keti , the article is really interesting, but off topic. Not applicable for tabletop ovens. Everything here is much simpler, even more primitive. * JOKINGLY * It needs to be placed here: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7345.0.

I agree, transferred https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=7345.0

[Alexandra]

but I found out about the quartz heating element ..Alexandra for some reason praised them very much

[Erisson]

I've also found something about mini-ovens. Taken from the site
Desktop mini oven Erisson (MO-3233, MO-3633, MO-3638E2, MO-4242C, MO-4242CX, MO-4252C, MO-4252CX)

TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS SPECIFICATIONS

________________________ __

SERIES MO4 ***

SERIES MO3 ***

External width	590 mm	520 mm
External length	433 mm	408 mm
External height	330 mm	330 mm
Inner width	440 mm	397 mm
Internal depth	420 mm	385 mm
Internal height	240 mm	240 mm
Oven volume	42 Liters	36 Liters
Thermostat	50 - 250 C	50 - 250 C
Timer (optional)	0 - 90 minutes	0 - 90 minutes
Bottom heating. element	800 watts	650 Wt
Top heating element	600 watts	650 Wt
Grill (optional)	1200 watts	1300 Wt
Rated voltage	230 V, 50 Hz	230 V, 50 Hz
Convection (optional)	13-15 watts	13-15 watts
Skewer (optional)	4 watts	4 watts
Oven lamp (optional)	15 watts	15 watts
For the MO-3638E2 model
Electric hob 145 mm	1000 watts
Electric hotplate 180 mm	1500 watts

Can anyone have an Erisson MO4252C or Erisson MO4242CX? How is it with the separate inclusion of heating elements and convection? The manufacturer says "depends on the model" ... There are fewer and fewer hopes for the supply of Luxells, and with delivery from another city at a price like Erisson will be released

[Wasp,]

Wasp, is it not better written here? Or have you already read it? 🔗
Description of the control panel (except for model MO-3638E2-model with burners)
OVEN FUNCTION SELECTOR

1. - Upper heating element
2. - Bottom heating element
3. - Upper and lower heating elements
4. - Bottom heating element with convection
5. - Upper and lower heating elements with convection
6. - Grill
7. - Skewer
Modes
A. Top heating mode

This mode is recommended for toasts, hot sandwiches, crispy crust, etc.
In this mode, only the upper heating element is working (heated).
B. Bottom heating mode

In this mode, only the lower heating element is working (heated)

B. Top and bottom heating mode

In this mode, both heating elements work

We recommend using it when preparing pies, pizza and other culinary products.

D. Bottom heating with convection

This mode is suitable for cooking dishes with a "top crust"

E. Top and Bottom Heating with Convection

This mode is recommended for use when cooking dishes where deep frying is required.

E. Grill setting

This mode is recommended for grilling dishes (chicken, meat)

G. Spit Mode

Recommended for use when preparing meat dishes.

It's a pity, they didn't leave a question for the address. And it would be great - I wrote, you got an answer and you don’t worry about the choice.

[Whymuchka]

Whymuchka, the files are identical. Only the small print I did not notice There was Note: all models have the same principles of temperature controller control and mode selection I'll go see / feel this model in the shops tomorrow.

[Roll with walnuts.]

Girls, I am reporting !!! Here baked Roll with walnuts.

I really liked that through the door you can see very clearly:

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But the first time I'm not 100% happy !!! The baking sheet was on the 2nd level. After 30 minutes, the top was rosy and the bottom was white. I had to turn on the bottom without convection. I just ordered a thermometer for the oven, it will arrive in 2 weeks, so I can't say if the temperature was the same. In general, something like this ..

Omela, congratulations on the "new thing"! Considering how much you bake, you needed such a stove. I, too, immediately bought mine, found out the shortcomings in the process (fortunately there are not many of them) and began to successfully deal with them. To adapt so to speak.It is not for me to tell you, an experienced comrade, that there are many things to try in order to give a firm assessment. Feminine logic saves a lot of techniques from being thrown and repaired. Create your masterpieces, to our delight. And we will be happy to read, choose, cook, comment, advise ...

[NNS]

Feminine logic saves a lot of techniques from being thrown and repaired.

NNS ,. Thank you! I just would like without unnecessary body movements ...

Soft cookies

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there are many things to try to make a solid assessment.

Therefore, while without emotions and ratings !!!

Girls, I appeal to everyone who has not yet bought a stove, but really wants to. From your messages, I concluded that the assortment in Moscow has become very meager. Even more so in Minsk. But he was like that before. So I ordered in Moscow. I found people on the Internet who often travel to Moscow and bring something to order. Took 10% of the cost. When I was looking for a stove, I saw a lot of advertisements about them in Yekaterinburg, Ryazan, etc. Try to search somewhere there and bring them through someone. Maybe this will help you, than waiting for receipts and it is still unknown when ... Good luck to everyone, I understand you like no one else (I myself was in this position) ...

... the assortment in Moscow has become very scarce. Even more so in Minsk.

Most of the equipment is also brought to Krasnodar from Moscow, adding a good% to the cost. In stores like Auchan there are only 20 liter stoves, and today all normal (26-42L) models with convection have disappeared from the last site, on which so many hopes were placed. There are only Kumtels left. Indeed, I'll have to order through someone, I'm in sorrow.

Thinking to buy a delonghi 1490 or 1455. Does anyone have such a house?

[Oca]

Oca and on ads on Avito, for example, did not look? there is someone in your area delongi selling really small ...

[Wasp]

all normal (26-42L) models with convection disappeared.

Wasp, do not get hung up on convection by hand. This I can tell you from my own experience already .. I lived peacefully without convection.

I bought here ... They also have Deltas: and they can send by mail ... in case of emergency ..

Wasp, I have Erisson MO 4252CX.
switch of heating elements - lower, upper, both at once, both + convention, convention + lower.

Nirinka
Please tell me, does Erisson MO 4252CX have a door with two glasses or one?

Nirinka
Please tell me, does Erisson MO 4252CX have a door with two glasses or one?

Glass one

Nirinka
Please tell me, does Erisson MO 4252CX have a door with two glasses or one?

I am not sure if there is a double glass in tabletop ovens !!!!

Nirinka
Thanks for the quick answer, I have another question for you - Yeast baked goods, how are biscuits made?
I looked at different mini-ovens on the market in Mitino, they seemed "flimsy", only "Ariete" with double glass is "more impressive", but the "displacement" everywhere is small 18-20, but I would like more.

Omela
There are ovens with 2 glass, some models are DeLonghi, Ariete.

[GalinaM]

but the "displacement" is everywhere small 18-20, but I would like more.

GalinaM , this is only through the Internet store. Do you have double glass as a fundamental condition ??

GalinaM
Pies, buns, pizza - good, and I bake biscuits in a cartoon. Well, you can't call this little stove flimsy (in my opinion).

Omela, no, it doesn't matter, I just want to buy it to make the baking work. I used to live in an apartment and I had an electric oven, there were practically no punctures - biscuits, meringues, muffins, etc. everything is delicious (electric oven with two glasses). And now we have moved to a private house and we have a gas stove with an oven, it's just some kind of nightmare, everything will burn. In the future I will buy email. a built-in oven, and now I temporarily want to buy a mini-oven, so "I'm all in thought."

Nirinka
I have not seen this mini-oven "live", but I can't make up my mind to bake a biscuit in a cartoon, I have Brand 37501.

[GalinaM]

Omela, no, it doesn't matter, I just want to buy it to make the baking work. I used to live in an apartment and I had an electric oven, there were practically no punctures - biscuits, meringues, muffins, etc. everything is delicious (electric oven with two glasses). And now we have moved to a private house and we have a gas stove with an oven, it's just some kind of nightmare, everything will burn. In the future I will buy email. built-in oven, and now I temporarily want to buy a mini-oven, so "I'm all in thought."

GalinaM ,. Just like it was written off from me.Current is not about an apartment and a house, but about an electric oven and a mini-oven. I can say about my experience that it will not be as trouble-free in a mini-oven as in an electric oven. At least in terms of uniform heating. In the oven, I have NEVER turned the baking sheet over because one side is more fried than the other. But on the other hand, a mini-oven has its advantages: faster heating, shorter baking time, takes up less space, it is seen better, costs an order of magnitude cheaper. You just need to take a high-quality stove so that the assembly is solid. Otherwise, they are all more or less similar. How much volume do you want?

I can't make up my mind to bake a biscuit in a cartoon, I have Brand 37501

And what??? Girls bake and that's it

Omela
I would like more, 30-40 l

[GalinaM]

GalinaM , in Moscow - this is Redber (42 liters. with convection, like mine), Delta (33 liters, 40 liters. without convection), Luxell (39 liters without convection).