myata
Mila56, tell me, did you bake bread in your Rolsen oven in a mold, for example, in L7, is there enough height between the shades so that the bread does not stick to the upper shade during baking?
Mila56

Quote: myata
Tell me, did you bake bread in your Rolsen oven in a mold, for example, in L7, is there enough height between the shades so that the bread does not stick to the upper shade during baking?
Olga, alas, I can’t tell, since I don’t have any bread mold at all. And I bake bread in a bread maker, well, or shape it in any shape and in the Miracle oven or in a desktop oven. The height between the upper and lower shades in my stove is 22-23 cm. If my memory serves me right. I do not know the height of the L7 form. If about 15 cm, then I think that's enough. If the bread rises from the mold by another 7 cm, it will fit. Even if the bread rises more, provided that it is baked at the same time in one pan, it will still not stick if the pan is placed correctly. I have 2 even shades in the stove above and below, that is, the distance between the two upper (as well as between the lower) shades is 14 cm. They are even and between them you can easily establish a shape along their length. But these are my assumptions, since I do not know the size of the L7 shape.

nila
I will also show my first successful bread, which my mini oven baked for me.
Baked at a temperature of 160 * 45 min. Baked on convection, top-bottom. When the top reached the desired condition, I covered it with a piece of foil.
I kneaded the dough into 1 kg, then divided it into 2 slightly unequal parts (different molds). What molds I don’t know, I just bought them, without any identification marks.
Bread with dried tomatoes (I have homemade dried ones).
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
Tabletop ovens, stoves ...
selenа
Nelyawhat a gorgeous bread
myata
Ludmila, thanks for the answer. I'm still thinking about buying a stove, but I'm already close to the final)
Nelya, your bread is very beautiful.
Mila56
Nelya, wonderful bread and appetizing cut.
Mila56
Quote: myata
I'm still thinking about buying a stove
Olga, and in thought whether it is necessary or not. Or did you not choose a specific one?
nila
Hope, Olga, Ludmila, Thank you! The bread really turned out to be wonderful, I didn't expect it myself, moreover, it doesn't crumble, it is beautifully cut.
This recipe is from the instructions of my HP Kenwood and I have always baked it in HP before. The bread was delicious, but crumbled. Now I have my Vimar oven and I can't get enough of it. So I decided, once again kneading the dough in KhP, to try to bake bread in the oven.
Now I will always do that.
So Vimar rules
myata
Mila56, Lyudmila, the stove is definitely needed! I didn’t decide what else exactly, I turned over the topic again and I lean towards someone like yours
Mila56
Olga, pay attention to the description of the VIMAR-4629 stove, answer 2224. It is good in functions, though great for me, and we do not have them in retail. And I prefer to touch the goods before buying. You can choose a smaller volume, only with the same functions. That makes me happy and others do not need. You just need to understand that they are economy class with all the possible consequences. They must be handled with care, this is not a tank. You can also see the description of the AVEX stove in the answer 2143 on page 108. It is also a good stove and the temperature there can be set to 40 degrees. that can be used for distance test. This is despite the fact that the temperature is from 100 degrees, read more.
myata
Ludmila, I thought vimar is sold only in Ukraine, but I have not seen AVEX, I also want to touch the stove before buying
Mila56
Quote: myata
I also want to touch the stove before buying
Olga, and also measure the real dimensions (internal and external) with a tape measure.
Irina F
Girls, I absolutely do not have time to re-read the whole Temka, my sister urgently asked her to advise a desktop oven! Therefore, I ask those who have already made a choice!
Please advise: you need to bake for one or two people, so you can bake a chicken and a pie to cook. My sister is not really a fan of cooking, so you don't need some super-sophisticated one.
And one more aspect, so that it is not expensive, about thousand to seven.
Help me please!
katyaspb
A week ago I took Luxell 3520 Inox (6.5 tons), ordered in Ozone, delivery is free. Turkey,
39L, lighting, convection, 2 rectangular baking sheets of normal quality (tested with pies)
4 modes: top, bottom, top + bottom, top + bottom + convection.
Timer, the temperature is stated to be up to 250, but there is still a max, not a test, I don't know how much
Skewers, no grill, if you bake the chicken, probably on a grate (included) with convection.
I use it every day for a week: pies, bread, cookies, while I'm happy. You have to adjust to the temperature, as always.
Omela
Quote: katyaspb
Luxell 3520 Inox
A good stove, at one time I wanted to buy it, but it was not available anywhere. As a result, Redber 4290 was boiling, but it is not small - 42 liters.
Omela
Shteba is also praised, but I don't know how much it costs.
katyaspb
We have a staff for such liters from 19 tons, and even that is not available. I was looking for a budget stove for more than a month, there is no choice in St.
Mila56
Irina F, IRINA, pay attention to the AVEX TV 400 BCL ovens (page 108, hole 2143 for 40 liters), VIMAR 4240 V (for 42 liters, page 115 hole 2346), VIMAR 4629 (for 46 liters, page 115, hole 2297, 2300), LUXELL 3520 (for 35 liters, page 119, hole 2363). I have a ROLSEN KW 3026 stove (30 liters). There are good reviews about these stoves. Take a look and compare their functionality. For all, convection is turned on and off separately, this is important. Well, the size between the upper and lower shadows is preferably larger. In mine it is 22-23cm. about. And in the above listed about the same. If this size is smaller, then tall products (Easter cakes, etc.) may burn during lifting and baking. The temperature in my stove is below 100 degrees. you will not put it (the temperature regulator does not turn to a lower one), but in the passport, too, from 100 degrees. But at the AVEX stove, at the same initial temperature according to the passport, the regulator turns to a lower one, which can be used when proving the dough. The depth of the stove (inner chamber) is important. In mine it is 26 cm, that is, I can put a round shape in it with a diameter of no more than 26 cm. My oven 1.5 years ago cost only 2990 rubles, but despite this I am satisfied with it. She overestimates the temperature, but I take this into account and set it down. If there are no such stoves in the city, you can certainly try others (not simfer), but with the same functionality and internal dimensions that were discussed. On the Internet, only external dimensions are indicated. Therefore, you need to measure yourself in the store. It should be understood that these are budget stoves, not tanks, and they must be used carefully. A volume of 30-35 liters for a sister's family is enough for the eyes. But if the volume is larger, then this is only better for the quality of baking. Look like that's it.
Svetlana Mazqarovna
If there are few eaters, there is enough volume in the range of 20-26 liters (I have an 18 liter Scarlett, I'm happy with it).
Mila56
Quote: SvetlanaMazqarovna
If there are few eaters, enough volume within 20-26 liters
Yes it is. But I have few eaters and still preferred 30 liters. I saw earlier in the subject that in small ovens like your girl they manage to bake masterpieces. Do you have a spit with Scarlett? Well, then I chose more, taking into account the internal dimensions of the chamber. Here are the dimensions in your Scarlett inside the chamber, that is, the height of the inner chamber, its depth, width, and the size between the lower and upper shadows? Remind about these dimensions, well, about convection (separate inclusion or not), maybe this will help someone with the choice.
Irina F
katyaspb, Ekaterina, I will definitely look at this stove!
Omela, Ksyusha, my sister will definitely not pull Shteba (-expensive! So I would have been for Shteba!
Mila56, Lyudmilochka, thanks, everything is described in such detail, it remains to see the availability! And is there a delivery to our village)
Girls! Thank you all very much for your help and responsiveness !!!
Sikorka
Girls, tell your mother-in-law for a gift.
She needs a stove for the dacha.
I dug into mvideo and ozone. We will not pull Bork, you can either Sbeba KB 27 for 8200 or those brands that are
everywhere Rolsen Ariete Simfer Scarlet.
So I am racking my head over the question of taking a shtebik right away or cheaper (but which one ??!).
Mila56
Sikorka, you can also Sbeba KB 27, if you don’t mind the money. And from those that are cheaper, do not take Simfer. There are a lot of bad reviews on her lately. Although as luck would have it, but marriage can be found everywhere. Check out my ot 2367 on this page and make your choice based on the functions and internal dimensions discussed in the answer.
Sikorka
Mila56, Thank you. Please tell me if the oven and glass are heating up? (how important is it they ask me)
And do I understand correctly that the volume in liters should be from 30?
Mila56
Sikorka, My stove has the whole body, that is, the glass, its walls, heat up (you can burn yourself), but the door handle is warm, albeit metal (you can take it with your bare hands) But this is the case in all stoves. I think that the situation is similar in Shteba. We have a separate topic about Shteba, read it, there are few pages. Take a gas oven for example. During the operation of her oven in all inexpensive gas. ovens, the glass and the body heat up. The volume of the stove for a family of 2-3 people. possible from 18 liters and more. But if in a stove with a small volume (18-20-25 liters) the distance between the upper and lower shadows is much less than 22-23 cm, then there is a high probability of baking and burning (if you do not dock) tall products (large cake, etc.). etc.). You can even find a stove with a volume of 25-35-40 liters in which the distance between the top. and the lower shadows will be, say, 18 cm. And it turns out because these stoves are wide and much deeper than those listed above. Well, and even more so if people want to fry chicken on a spit in it, then the distance between the upper and lower shades should definitely be at least 22 cm. True, these ovens are mainly used for baking. And after the chicken on the spit, the inside of the chamber will be covered with fat. We'll have to scrub. I hope I could explain the volume.
Sikorka
Mila56, Oh, thank you very much!
You answered so well, put them on the shelves in my head. Easter is coming soon and the Easter cakes are high and the chickens are frying
I will now look for the required volume, what is available where.
There is a small problem, I can't see it with my own eyes, I will order it via the Internet. Now I'm focusing on your brand.
Mila56
Sikorka, see my answer 2367. In it, all the listed stoves, except for LUXELL (I don’t know its internal dimensions, you can ask the hostess) have a distance between the upper and lower shades of 22-23 cm (if my memory serves me correctly), which is what we need. And with convection everything is right there. Read about these stoves, there are pages and answers. It is not at all necessary to be guided only by my brand of stove.
Masinen
Quote: Mila56
I think that the situation in Shtebe is similar.

In Shteba with the ECO prefix, the walls and door are of normal temperature and you cannot get burned. Those they are hot, but not hot. It is also an indicator of how the stove will consume electricity. Stoves with thin walls, there is no insulation and a large amount of heat goes into the air, and it will warm up all the time and turn on the walls more often.
And for stoves with thick walls and double thick glass in the door, heat loss is minimal and it also saves electricity, that's the way it is)

Therefore, my Shteba 28ECO LINE stove has a power of only 1400 W) Very economical stove
Svetlana Mazqarovna
Mila56, Scarlett has no skewer, convection does not turn off, dist. between the shades 15 cm. When the stove is large, for a small number of it you can't drive it, the power is more, not economical.
Mila56
Quote: Masinen
Those they are hot, but not hot.
Maria, I find it difficult to answer how to assess the temperature of the surfaces of the case in my stove, that is, call it hot or hot. I can touch it, still not 100 degrees, but if you hold your hand for a long time, you can get burned. And the top, bottom, sides heats up in different ways.

Quote: Masinen
And for stoves with thick walls and double thick glass in the door, heat loss is minimal and it also saves electricity, that's the way it is)
Yes, of course, no one argues that such stoves are better and more reliable. True, it is more expensive, but everyone chooses according to their wallet. Logically, such stoves should be heavier (due to the thickness of the metal and double glass), that is, the heavier the stove, the more reliable and better it turns out. So when choosing and weight you need to pay attention. As for the heat-insulating material, it must be managed somewhere (between the inner and outer walls of the case and how thick this material will be. Of course, it's good if there is good thermal insulation.
Masinen
Ludmila, yes, it all depends on finances, you can't argue here)
Mila56
Maria, Masha, can you really keep your hand on the surface or near the glass of your stove, let's say for a minute and not get burned? Such a stove is especially good in a house with small children (so as not to get burned by accident).
Masinen
Ludmila, I will bake and try to hold my hand for a long time. And then I'll write what came out of this)
Mila56
Quote: SvetlanaMazqarovna
Scarlett has no spit, convection does not turn off, dist. between shadows 15 cm.
If desired, our members of the forum have golden hands and a lot of things can be baked in such a stove.
Mila56
Quote: Masinen
I will bake and try to hold my hand for a long time. And then I'll write what came out of this)
Maria, Masha, thanks, I'll wait for an answer. I wonder how good the thermal insulation is.
B.T.I.
I have Delta. The lower heating element does not work. Carry to repair or call home? What do you advise?
Mila56
Quote: B. T. I.
I have Delta. The lower heating element does not work. Carry to repair or call home? What do you advise?
Do you still have a guarantee or has it already ended? And what kind of ten is there? that is, what is its form? Here in my stove there are two even tubes-tena above and below. And there are shadows similar to the letter Z.
B.T.I.
The warranty is of course over. Ten really looks like "z".
Mila56
B. T. I., I think all the same, in any case, it is necessary to lead to the service department, which is engaged in the repair of stoves. After all, they can write out what ten is necessary. If the warranty is over, you will have to pay for ten (if burned out) and for repairs. Do they go to the house on calls? If you still have to pay, then you can agree on the phone so that the person comes to the house, so to speak, to cheat.
B.T.I.
Thank you! I'll think!
Mila56

Quote: B. T. I.
The warranty is of course over. Ten really looks like "z".
In this case, call the service department (not just any one) and try to arrange for repairs at home. Only the amount needs to be negotiated in advance, that is, ask how much the diagnostics will cost, the cost of the ten (if it turns out that you need to change it) and the repair. Perhaps the final amount will be higher than the cost of a new stove, then it is inappropriate to repair it. It will be difficult for a home craftsman (husband, son, friend) to find such a ten in a store. But if there is such a master, you can try to spin the stove yourself at home and see if the wiring may have just fallen off. If there are none, then contact the service.
Vanilka29
katyaspb, Catherine, hello! Could you measure the internal dimensions of the oven? What diameter and height the max shape will fit. I want to buy bread for baking, and Easter is not far off.
katyaspb
Vanilka29, Inna, good evening, I report:
Between heating elements 23cm
From the bottom of the grate installed at the lower level to the upper heating element -20cm
Lattice dimensions 43.5 × 31.5
From the edge of the grate to the glass of the door another 3 cm
Sizes of standard baking trays 43.5 × 32.5 - external, 36 × 26 - on the bottom
Vanilka29
katyaspb, thank you for your prompt reply. I'm going to measure my forms.
irina52
katyaspb, good day! I want to buy this stove. ordered in ozon- brought- luxell 3520 inox blek without convection. Tell me, maybe I'm writing something wrong in the order?
katyaspb
irina52, I tortured Ozon on the phone for a long time, found out if there is convection, and what exactly the model is called, because before on the Internet I came across only Luxell 3520 Turbo, and I have not met Inox models.They assured that there is convection, and indeed, they brought it with convection, but the model name on the stove and box is Luxell 3520 T. The price was 6790 rubles. By the way, convection somehow does not make me very happy, in one corner the pies are burning, you have to turn over the baking sheets, and it is almost useless to cook in two floors.
Nadin16
Good day!

I have long been "preoccupied" with the purchase of a mini-oven - the oven does not work, but I want to bake (and bake). The second or third day, I struggle with the choice of a stove: AVEX TY400BСL or Rolsen KW3026. Please help me decide! And then I can’t do anything else. I keep thinking, thinking, thinking, rushing, rushing, rushing
What is planned to be cooked. I need an oven for baking pies, cakes (I want to learn how to bake them!), Baking potatoes with meat (and not only) in pots (different ceramic tins), pizzas, etc. There are many tins / tins of different length / height.
Thank you in advance for your help!
Anastasenok
Nadin16, biscuits on cakes are still tastier than multicooker bakes
Nadin16
Uh-huh. Dont know. Thank you, Anastasenok
We must try to bake biscuits in a slow cooker (you will have to look for biscuit recipes).

Yes, I completely forgot to ask: is there any special difference besides "displacement" and the ability to set a low temperature in avex? In height between the shadows, they are very different; along the length of the oven? Does the stove have the ability to turn off / on the backlight during cooking? I have a bread maker available, but I do not exclude the possibility of transporting the oven to my mother, but she does not have a bread machine.
Mila56
Quote: Nadin16
And then I can’t do anything else. I keep thinking, thinking, thinking, rushing, rushing, rushing
It's like with me when I was choosing a stove. Then I studied this topic for more than one month in order to understand something about their features. As a result, I chose Rollsen 3026 and have no regrets. I will write about the size of my stove. First, about the external dimensions (to know where to put). Its width is 50 cm, depth is 36 cm (taking into account the door handle, adjusters and stoppers on the back wall (plastic pins so that they are not placed close to the wall)). Its height, taking into account the legs, is 32.5 cm. As for the internal dimensions, the lattice is 37.5 cm wide and 26 cm deep. Well, accordingly, the baking sheet has approximately the same dimensions. Of course, I can be wrong by a couple of millimeters in all sizes.
The grate does not reach the glass 1-2 cm. It turns out that, for example, a biscuit or pizza can be baked with a diameter of no more than 26-27 cm. The height between the upper and lower shadows is 22-23 cm. I did not measure up to millimeters. In Avex 400, the height between shadows is 22.5 cm. Alexander wrote about it earlier on page 108 and further. I don’t remember about the size of the grate and baking sheet. And the size of the photo can be mistaken. Read more from him or ask if these sizes are not available. You only need to know the size of the wire rack or baking sheet. They (ovens) may vary in size. I think there are no other differences, except for those noticed earlier (volume, temperature) and sizes. And about the backlight, it burns throughout the cooking time and it is impossible to turn it off. Unless the light bulb burns out.

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