Grypana
Quote: kseniaa

I, too, keep an eye on the PG. I need it less, I don’t understand yet ...

You can do without it, but it is easier with it. Voyukat, so to speak will have to sweat. Its presence does not exempt from labor efforts. Where to soak the surface, where to clean the brush. But without my magic jug, I'm no, no. It's more convenient for me to get out with him. Faster. And it turns out prettier
dandelion
What do you advise taking ODYSSEY or another company to look for
svk222
There is a question of the price category. You can get used to the disadvantages. For a couple of minutes of training, I learned to put on and take off the windscreen wiper easily enough, because of which I first broke my nail. The second time, for a couple of minutes, I let water and steam into the sink before starting to clean the refrigerator. Then there was normal steam. (read on irecommend it seems). If the level of your income and purchases allows you to immediately take a Karcher, you should probably take it. Delivery from 5000 is free throughout Russia. And there is no other alternative. Now for the first exotic I would buy Odysseus again. Because I don't know yet "why pay more"
svk222
In the end, we do not choose for life. Maybe in three years they will be available at a price that will immediately collect water
svk222
Quote: kseniaa

We need it less. And then wipe all the resulting water with a dirt cloth?
I'll add my five cents. With him, the usual cleaning in terms of quality approaches the general. Or general in ease to the usual You can't tell. But subjectively, saving time every 5 times, and no less effort.
As for the dirt. So it is not everywhere. A stove, a refrigerator after pouring milk, etc., is one thing. Here you can dilute with a little steam and without a mud. And if you take mirrors, doors, and other not very dirty surfaces, then everything is washed there in a minute. Accordingly, after the PG, just wave a dry cloth, as in advertising.
* Anyuta *
svk222, in your posts lots of incomprehensible "empty" comparisons that will only confuse people ...

I will write in short .. ANY PG, like any thing, is not used in full volume .. in my case, the volume is 450 ml .. when that much water was poured, my paras also spat in all directions ... For me the ideal is 400 ml and no more "sinks" have to be done ...

Quote: svk222

But I have not yet mastered how to clean the stains. Everything seems to have remained in place.

without any nozzles .. just a steam generator nozzle (let's say "spot treatment") and then wipe the stains ... There is no sense in "steaming the spots" with a special nozzle!

And yet, girls from Ukraine, so as not to get confused, KROMAKH / ODESEY (for Russia) and HILTON (for Ukraine) are ONE AND ALSO! So if you can't find reviews for any of these models, just change the names!
May @
Anyuta, maybe you meant Hilton?
* Anyuta *
Quote: May @

Anyuta, maybe you meant Hilton?

Oh, of course ... I went to fix it .. it's called "earned" ... we just work with the HILTI company!
May @
Anyuta, is it yours and you like it? And then they offered me a Hilton and cheaper than a clathronic, but I doubted because I had not heard the reviews.
Scarlett
I'm not Anyuta, but I have a "Hilton" Here we have already discussed - they are all "on one block", just the design is different. price category with "Hilton" and its price is 200 kopecks
dandelion
Truncated, girls, now I am with a steam. Even two. Odysseus small and big odysseus. : crazy: That not one, then immediately two.
dandelion
: flowers: thanks.I don’t know how it will go further, but now we are using it with pleasure. We tear it out of the hands of our daughters and remove it for a couple. As for the mounts: no problem, everything clicks fine and is easy to insert. Kills the smell emitted by the steam, apparently the plastic stinks. But I think it will fizzle out over time. Cleaning pleases, dust is especially well removed from all cracks and grooves, baseboards, etc. But whoever has a PG will understand and share my delight. And who does not have - get it !!! There are such places that no rags, hands and toothbrushes will reach !!!
Sandy
But my friendship with the steam cleaner did not work out so poor and has been standing in the corner for 2 years, used it five times and that's it
svk222
Quote: dandelion

Mounts: no problem

Are the hangers also easy to attach to the holder? I have not worked it out. It's easier not to disassemble. I quickly got used to the glass nozzle, I realized that I needed to close it with my fingertips, as I was used to. And this holder has remained a secret of Pandora.
I went through the batteries today and cleaned the sofa. Not all stains are vapor soluble. But regular use of the steam engine seems to be able to postpone the need for updates and repairs.
dandelion
My husband attached the shoulders while I took out the rest of the nozzles, no problem. The attachments are replaced faster than a vacuum cleaner! Really happy with the displacement. I have a light-light coffee carpet in my room and a cat managed to give birth to its first-born on it. Of course, I immediately washed both more and more. But if you look closely, then either the breeches or the worn out of this place still reminded of childbirth. So now - no !!! I can imagine how convenient it is to take a little steam room with you on vacation ... I am always afraid and disgusted to sleep on other people's mattresses and pillows. Now, no problem. We also have all the carved interior doors, dozens of grooves where the dust gets clogged, and even stelo some tiny little squares. Wash them KATORGA! MOTHER! AND ORU TO HUSBAND! He chose them because of their beauty, and even then I understood that washing them would be a big problem. So I was writing a post here, and for 10 years my daughter was quietly cleaning them. HERE !!!
svk222
Yes, this is another plus of the steam engine! "Mom, well, you promised that I will soar it"
Advertising is silent, but children really like this toy. My boy is 9 years old, and he also pulls out of his hands. I don't mind
dandelion
Quote: Sandy

But my friendship with the steam cleaner did not work out so poor and has been standing in the corner for 2 years, used it five times and that's it
What is your PG? Maybe you need to know better about its functionality? I'm at my leisure, after NG I will definitely read the whole topic in its entirety in order to better learn about the possibilities and methods of application. I myself would not have guessed to wash the refrigerator for them, but now I know that only they need it. There are so many hard-to-reach places.
dandelion
Quote: svk222

Yes, this is another plus of the steam engine! "Mom, well, you promised that I will soar it"
Advertising is silent, but children really like this toy. My boy is 9 years old, and he also pulls out of his hands. I don't mind
Yes, yes, and I am for !!! The first time I saw that my baby worked with such zeal. I even threw away my tablet (presented today on the occasion of NG). So, the steamboys rule !!!
svk222
Quote: dandelion
Have you blown through the carpet with a narrow nozzle? Have you tried a floor brush today? I haven't gotten to that yet.
dandelion
yes narrow, as taught at an angle. Used a floor brush. Here is a joint. lengthening sticks are shaking, I'm afraid to push. I hold and float in one direction. Well, as you wrote, you can get used to and adapt to small flaws. Moreover, this is not a daily procedure and I have new norms. vacuum cleaner. In general, for me, the disadvantage is extension sticks, if there are more than two of them at a time.
prozerpina
Girls, I have a question for the happy owners of Karcher 1020. Have you used the "Textile Care" attachment. Does it smooth the veil, organza and curtains?
Sandy
Quote: dandelion

What is your PG? Maybe you need to know better about its functionality? I'm at my leisure, after NG I will definitely read the entire topic in its entirety in order to better learn about the possibilities and methods of application. I myself would not have guessed to wash them the refrigerator, but now I know that only they need it. There are so many hard-to-reach places.
Clatronic DR 3280. Yes, there is a lot of everything .. at first it was played, I cleaned all the furniture, the stove, the floor, even the windows on the balcony of soap and then it began to strain to collect water to wait,
yes, and big as a vacuum cleaner, in short, it did not take root, I am friends with a washing vacuum cleaner every day ... although it also needs to be filled with water, but it is somehow closer to my heart
AIV12
Who understands, tell me which one is better to take from these models? Kromax ODYSSEY Q-802 or Kromax ODYSSEY Q-901
(We went shopping in our Churinsk, only these 2 are there, there was also some kind of manual cromax in the shape of a teapot, but it seems to me that it is weak compared to these vacuum cleaners)
The sellers understand little about them and cannot clearly explain, since we have a new device. I liked 901 more, but it was embarrassing that the pressure was 2.5, but the steam was 130g, and the 802 had the pressure 8, but the steam was 98g (my friends told me that you shouldn't take it with a pressure less than 5)
svk222
In Q-901 I was alarmed by 2.5 bar pressure. This is even less than that stated for small PGs. And the 802 has the ability to store small attachments on the body. Conveniently. Although the 901's nozzles are more interesting.
* Anyuta *
Quote: May @

Anyuta, is it yours and you like it? And then they offered me the Hilton and cheaper than the clathronic, and I doubted because I had not heard the reviews.

Hilton and ODISEUS (CROMAX) - it is absolutely the same... it's just that the names are different for different countries!
* Anyuta *
Girls, watch how the stove is washed out without any brushes - just "blowing the dirt" (pay attention to the screws)
Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator)
Over time (over 5 years) these "screws" got hammered so that it was simply unrealistic to wash them, except with toothpicks / needles / toothbrushes .. and with such a coating - you know - it is problematic to do this ...
And yet ... with a teapot (odyssey), I would not recommend using brushes diligently .. there the "nozzles" are so weak that my two nozzles have already broken! Now all that remains is the extension attachment, which is "ashore like the apple of an eye" ....
Kstita, washing windows is a quiet horror .. I don't know who washed the same as before, but after reading the WHOLE topic from cover to cover and having studied all the recommendations for cleaning not only windows, I can only say one thing .. Clin + paper towels + wet rag = 5-7 minutes and the window is amazingly clean!
And with a parasik I danced at one frame for half an hour - leaves stains and EVERYTHING !! kill him!
kseniaa
And I was lucky on the 31st. Now I have a Monster - a jug.
Steam cleaner (steam generator)
I immediately tried it in the kitchen. I liked my work. Well washed the handles on the stove. I just blew out the dirt and grease, and wiped it off with a rag. And she always picked out the remaining fatty plaque with toothpicks.

I washed the sink, blew the dirt out of the cracks. Where the tile ends and the washing itself begins.

I washed all the dishes of the dog, became like new.

Now, when there is time, I want to go to the bathroom and run a marafet
Svetlana_12
Ksenia, congratulations on your purchase. I want it too, but I'm afraid that we don't have it on sale at all (We live in the Far East) Tomorrow I'll go shopping.
Lozja
I, too, just go crazy for blowing dirt out of such cracks that even a toothpick can't get anywhere.
Stafa
Quote: * Annie *


Kstita, washing windows is a quiet horror .. I don't know who washed the same as before, but after reading the WHOLE topic from cover to cover and having studied all the recommendations for cleaning not only windows, I can only say one thing .. Clin + paper towels + wet rag = 5-7 minutes and the window is amazingly clean!
And with a parasik I danced at one frame for half an hour - leaves stains and EVERYTHING !! kill him!

Anyut, finally my mind becomes bright from the abundance of food and I can answer the windows. On glass - I almost agree - that Clin + paper towels + wet rag they will wash the glass, but the window, as it were, still consists of a profile, low tide and external slopes and all kinds of crap, which also needs to be washed.And then there are these nasty glazing beads, under which dirt also accumulates
Quote: Lozja

I, too, just go crazy for blowing dirt out of such cracks that even a toothpick can't get anywhere.

Shl. Although it is much faster to wash glass with a steam cleaner - the higher by the indicated method - just buy a normal rag for glass polishing. And I also used to take several liters of windshield wiper to clean all 18 windows and a lot of time and effort for this, now washing windows has become practically a funny thing.
Manna
Quote: * Annie *

Kstita, washing windows is a quiet horror .. I don't know who washed the same as before, but after reading the WHOLE topic from cover to cover and having studied all the recommendations for cleaning not only windows, I can only say one thing .. Clin + paper towels + wet rag = 5-7 minutes and the window is amazingly clean!
And with a parasik I danced at one frame for half an hour - leaves stains and EVERYTHING !! kill him!
Anyut, I washed windows and mirrors with both of my steamers. They are much more convenient to wash with them than with chemical products. It's just that when you start to dry the glass, you need to wipe the gum after each pass (although I do not always do this, I have already adapted myself). And in the corners, I just go through with a cloth that absorbs well and does not leave streaks. Also, as a hypothesis, maybe your little guy doesn't have a very elastic band?
svk222
When I washed the mirrors, I really missed the rag for the car. I think everyone has seen a rubberized cloth in yellow plastic tubes. Just collect the remaining moisture and polish immediately. It is necessary to visit the auto parts.
Oca
She did not adapt right away. First I wash the window panes in the corners of the frame fastening to the glass, where it is not always possible to get through with an elastic band on the glass nozzle. Then mine with vertical stripes from the edges to the center. The elastic leaves behind a dry warm glass, sometimes I help with a cloth only on the sides of the elastic. From ordinary mops (even with a rubber band) and rags, stains definitely remain. Instead of plain water, I pour distillate into a steam bath to wash taps, mirrors and other shiny surfaces. Dries without droplets.
Stafa
I also pour distilled water into the steam generator.
DJ
Quote: svk222

When I washed the mirrors, I really missed the rag for the car. I think everyone has seen a rubberized cloth in yellow plastic tubes. Just collect the remaining moisture and polish immediately. It is necessary to visit the auto parts.
I confirm, the thing is super! I wipe it with the sink and shiny objects in the bathroom, and the acrylic bathtub itself, so that no lime stains from water form.
Tanu_tt
Girls, who heard something about the Redmond RSC-2010 steam cleaner?
Manna
I do not even know what to say. I have already said before and more than once (I probably already froze everyone's eyes with this) that I think all the jugs are approximately the same and made at one or two factories in China. And what brand stands on them does not matter at all. I chose my jug exclusively for the price. At that time, he was the cheapest
svk222
Quote: manna

all jugs are made in one or two factories in China. And what brand stands on them does not matter at all.
When I looked at PG on the Internet, everything is black with an orange bottom. The exact same thought came up. And after an interview (on a different, but also economic topic), where the Russian owner of an "Austrian" inexpensive TM said: "We don't have a design bureau. Why? Anyway, a good idea will be stolen right away. So we just come to China to the factory, and we order what we like. " Already and do not doubt
Playful
Girls, and I will join you in a company with the Karcher 1020 steam generator I like everything about it, especially when you consider that I started my knowledge of steam cleaning with a green H2O mop. True, our joint tandem did not last long, on the 2nd day of purchase it died - it stopped heating water in steam. And immediately I found a replacement for her, ordered from Karcher's website - just before the New Year I did a general cleaning.Well, everything is super, except for one significant minus for me - the pistol heats up very much if you use a point nozzle or a round brush and the extension tube itself is when you wash the floor. And besides this, steam and hot droplets seemed to be shoving through the cracks - for the second time I already held it through a thick rag and it was hot. Is it all this way, or is it just me? I'm just in shock that it's so hot ...
svk222
Playful, I do not have Karcher. But the tubes get hot during very long cleaning. And the pistol is only a little on top and at the end, where steam is already coming out. The handle and trigger remain at normal temperature, steam does not even come close there. And of course, in this area, nothing is joking around.
Manna
Playful, I have neither Karcher 1020, nor Clathronic, do not warm themselves in the pens. The hose is yes, heats up, but not the handle. If you also feel hot moisture, but this is clearly a marriage. It shouldn't be like that.
Playful
Opensource projects, eh, somehow I don’t want to think that this is still a marriage. I would very much like to hear from the girls who own this device directly how they have to deal with this. Very hot with a nozzle attachment to put on - a round brush snaps into place. And at first I thought that this was due to the fact that if you do not use it for some time, steam accumulates in the tube and then, under pressure, it breaks out and burns everything around, but temporarily. But still no, it burns my hands all the time. I tried it several times, but very hotly, as a result I put a round brush directly on the pistol and due to the fact that there is no attachment on the pistol for it, it constantly flies a kilometer under the pressure of steam.But I'm ready to suffer so much than to burn my hands ... Well, I already said that when I put on 2 extension pipes and steam the carpet, you can only hold on to the pistol area, it is impossible to hold the tube with the other hand. Am I really the only one suffering so much, despite the fact that cleaning with a parusik is simply a thrill for me, and I'm just impatient for spring to wash the numerous windows in my apartment?
May @
Quote: Playful

I would very much like to hear from the girls who own this device directly how they have to deal with this.

So Manna answered you, as I understand her, she has two little pairs, including one like yours.
Manna
Quote: Playful

I would very much like to hear more from the girls who own this device directly
And my answer doesn't suit you? I have this particular model - Karcher 1020. The pistol does not heat up, especially since there are no drops or steam in the area of ​​the pistol !!! The hose is heating! And it gets very hot! But not a gun!

Quote: May @

So Manna answered you
Playful
Quote: manna

And my answer doesn't suit you? I have this particular model - Karcher 1020. The pistol does not heat up, especially since there are no drops or steam in the area of ​​the pistol !!! The hose is heating! And it gets very hot! But not a gun!
Yes, I just read it, but I would like to hear other reviews. Well, if so, then it's time to stomp into the service center, there is still one more fun. They didn’t return the money for the mop, only that was not enough ...
Stafa
My pistol does not heat up either, my relatives bought those 102.0 Karcher 7 pieces already - no one has a pistol warming up either with a nozzle or without a nozzle, I know this for sure, I taught everyone to work with steam engines.
Blackout
And why did I go to read about the steam cleaner? I didn't want him, I didn't want him at all. But after reading your reviews, I decided that a necessary thing in the household, I bought a Karcher 1020. At the weekend I will try the unit.
Playful
Quote: kseniaa

And what happened to the mop?
She stopped generating water in steam on the second day of work, she just started spitting cold water. Today they sent her a new one, tomorrow I will take it and I will sell it.
Py. sy. I sat and read the instructions to Karcher yesterday carefully. I think I have found a solution to my problem. In the troubleshooting section there is a paragraph about high water output due to an overfilled boiler.Both times I poured so that the cauldron overflowed above the lid, I poured too much and it was still too much to see. I'll try not to pour it under the chewing gum the other day. Most likely this is the problem.
dandelion
Playful, I'm afraid to disappoint you, but PG looks like a marriage. I also had some somoe with Odyssey, I passed it. In the place where the hose is connected to the steam generator, steam passed through and the hot handle was unrealistic. I changed and the other one works. ugh ugh.
Playful
... Dandelion, thanks. You were right. I went again and literally half-charged it and still the water flows hot from under the button and the gun itself is hot. But I don’t understand why this happens only if you put any attachment on the pistol, now I tried it with the attachment to close the problem, if you use the pistol without attachments, then everything is ok. Tomorrow I will take it to the service center. Eh, something is not lucky for me on steam generators ...

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