Stafa
And I have my lattice in the PMM.
Love.
Everything that can also be washed in the dishwasher, but the aluminum parts darken and I clean it by hand or with a steam generator.
Giraffe
Quote: Oca

There are wishes.

I answer in order: I can't wash the glass of the interior doors, the nozzle is a little wider. But I just processed it with a concentrator nozzle (my husband brought the instructions and I'm smart now, I know the name), in my photo right under the extension tubes.
The length of the hose is 1 m, the total length of the tubes is 1 m. The length of the cord from the steam pump itself to the end of the plug is 4.90 cm, but they write 5 m. No matter how hard I tried, I did not find additional centimeters
I wrote about the gas stove yesterday. The divider was washed and the circle that is put on it is also fine, but they were not soiled either. But under the splitter, the place through which the gas flows, and passes through a hole in the stove, small cracks, from there dirt flew through. she was shocked. I didn't even think. Explained the place clearly
I have not tried the grate, I will try it tomorrow. I decided, so that there were no blisters, to test exactly as much time every day as the fill is enough.
Today, the feeling that the plate has become more radiant does not leave. Here, I almost forgot. Its lid is glass and is almost always folded back. I counted. that she is clean. because it washes regularly when the dishes are washed. The last water from the PMM is drained very hot and I wipe the stove and glass with it. So, when I began to process the glass with steam, it turned out that it was covered with a thin layer of fat. Now the glass is really clean.
I cleaned the multicooker, impressive. I cleaned the kettle. Mine has two types of plastic, smooth and slightly ... that's not to say rough, but it's much more difficult to wash. And when there are two stoves at home, everything gets dirty much faster than in apartments. So the ferry cleared this part smartly.

I'll get a hazelnut tomorrow and try to clean it

Quote: yulia_s

Giraffe! Could you describe the technology for cleaning a cast-iron battery: how and with what nozzle did you wash?

Everything is simple, for the purity of the experiment, we first walked through the duster, and then with the nozzle, in the photo immediately under the tubes, from top to bottom, at an angle, so that it would not fly out all over the room, but would go down. Well, at the very bottom, in addition to the corners pshiknula.
before Steam cleaner (steam generator) after Steam cleaner (steam generator)
yulia_s
Giraffe, thanks! It seems to me that the battery itself has become whiter. Super!
Svetlana_12
Tanya, looked at the battery and I'm still waiting for the steam with great impatience.
Askorbinko
Quote: Svetik_

Omela thank you sunshine ........ then go to the rumba section .... but I don’t know ...... do we have it ???
I had a round rumba for dry cleaning (a robot, I explain, because it may have already released something completely incredible) 3 years ago. At first, while still a novelty and not very puzzled by the children, it was fun to watch her work. Then when the first love passed - I looked the truth in the eye. Perhaps, it will simplify life for those who have a floor without carpets with high or even medium pile, furniture, between which and the floor there is a distance, into which the rumba does not fit. For there she drives all the garbage, then: for those who have no children, because my baby was happy with such a ball for a beat. And if you live in one room, because she still cannot clean an apartment with a bunch of rooms on business, since she drives (or at least in those days she did) along a route that I did not understand and it takes a very long time for her to vacuum all this, which when you look at her your nerves can’t stand it and you want to say, but disappear, let me sweep you yourself. Then, plus to this, it also needs to be cleaned, the same brush for animals should be unwound. But it would not bother any skolichi if she licked everything quickly and really everywhere.The conclusion is this is a miracle of technology for those who live in an elevator or in a freight elevator)) Another option if yours is already clean and there is nothing to drive under the sofas, and so ... blow off the dust on top and small motes. And to compare with a steam cleaner or even more so a steam vacuum cleaner how to compare sour with red ... This is not a thing for those who want it to be perfectly clean, but for those who ran away to work in the morning, turned it on, came in the evening - garbage does not lie under their feet , dirt under sofas, on sofas, on tables and under walls, in all kinds of joints of something, unwashed toilets, tiles, glass, etc. do not strain too much - it means the conscience is calm))) As a result, the husband took it after the divorce)))
Askorbinko
Giraffe, please share, can you wash a carpet with a very high synthetic pile? or so, smear the dirt on top? And then lying on the balcony, decided to throw it away, but it's a pity ... And yet, is it convenient to carry it on a strap all the time, while, for example, you are washing the floor? And does the sofa clean and how?
Askorbinko
Quote: Askorbinko

The same as in your picture ... Maybe the number was different, but it seems the same ...
I think there are different levels of what people need: 1. So that nothing is lying around under their feet. 2. So that everything is clean (there was no dust everywhere, washed dishes, floor, five everywhere, etc. without special fanaticism such as disinfection and the absence of stains). 3. To be perfectly clean, including disinfection, washed off grease on tiles, washed off rust and lime on plumbing fixtures and mold in the joints on tiles, etc.
I have a three-room apartment, I live alone with a 2.5-year-old child.
I will describe completely where the rumba could not get into or adequately vacuum.
Two loggias, which the rumba could not get through the thresholds, in each room along the carpet with a long pile in which it got stuck, under the sofa, under the wall in the hall, under the refrigerator, under the washing machine, into the bathtub, into the toilet because of the thresholds , behind the sofa, behind the bed, behind the crib, between the crib and the wardrobe, between the various children's toys that are on the floor in the nursery, between the pots of palm trees and flowers that stand on the floor in the hall, under the wall in the hallway, plus garbage on She will sweep the threshold in the hallway throughout the apartment, and then if you do not have everything described above, she will vacuum, plus in the kitchen she crawls under the kitchen wall, but she just drives the garbage into the remote corners. Plus a bunch of joints between something and something, say in the kitchen. Even if you think logically, it will not replace your usual cleaning, say once a week, if you are not a bachelor with one bed. As an alternative to the daily shallow sweep that I once did as a kid to get rid of me - it will do if you don't have carpets like me. Since it will definitely not be able to vacuum them, and it may not go beyond them. I think she is just right for my husband in a bachelor's apartment. It is also a funny sight to watch her as she tries to crawl out from under this very kitchen wall, poking her legs. Then, when you turn it on, it starts to ride quite evenly throughout the apartment until it runs into a dirtier area, it shifts a little, then evenly, and I have it empty, it’s thick there, and it’s already a day has passed.
For level 1 cleaning and a properly sized interior will do.
But judge for yourself, in addition to just sweeping in the center of the room, at least once a week it must be washed, but in all the cracks, and the battery from dust, window sills, furniture from dust and damp, and I still have painted walls, I generally keep quiet about the kitchen, and the tiles on the floor from grease in the joints, and the refrigerator, rust on the bathroom equipment, the sofa in the dust, and all sorts of children's surprises, what a rumba nafik ... I struggle with the choice of a powerful cyclonic vacuum cleaner (according to the principle - I locally vacuumed something in five minutes then scattered, put it in a corner and forgot) + a steam cleaner for cleaning carpets, washing floors, sanitary equipment, fats, walls and other wet cleaning, again according to the principle - I filled it in, did everything at once, removed it from my eyes and forgot, or is it the Karcher steam cleaner (it is embarrassing that you cannot call them quick cleaning according to the reviews) In my opinion, the most laborious thing is what I described,but sweep the floor and the fool can in 5-10 minutes in the whole apartment and there is no need to buy rumba for this, as I once bought for 25 thousand, so that she would call your eyes all day long.
So, I still don't want to look like a villain in relation to rumba, but still too many thoughts come to mind like: "yes, she vacuum, but if ..." And if you have too many of these, then is it worth it generally take ... When I lived in a kopeck piece with a minimum of furniture, things and the absence of children, thresholds (drops), carpets and generally paddocks about whether I have it as clean as it seems from the doorway, and am full of enthusiasm to try, and what kind of beast, and most importantly, with a lot of time for this, then she quite suited me and made me happy ...
Askorbinko
Quote: Omela

Did you have exactly Rumba ?? There are many different manufacturers and all are round. What series was the model? 5th, 6th, 7th ???
Yes, exactly the rumba. I can't get through to my ex, but if you still trust my memory: 562 with virtual walls 2 pcs. and brush for animals and extra. container, it seems it was a little different. I think it's not about the model, but about what task is facing the owner of the device in those squares in which he lives and in those life circumstances, and in the practicality thereof in solving this problem.
Something this rumba has eaten back into my brain, we can take it from the ex ... it won't be superfluous ... but I'm afraid until the little cat stops buzzing the rumba it's better not to appear at home
ElenaOL
Quote: svk222

And in the neighboring model q-800, it turns out that there are brushes for clothes (you cannot see a normal rack, and okay) there is even a brush for pointing arrows. But instead of brush attachments for cleaning, mostly straight "blow" and 135 degrees ... At a price 1.5 times cheaper ...
🔗
Now I am in a complete and final stupor. Girls, what do you use more often? and what is superfluous in these sets? If, based on your experience, you had to choose between these two models, the q-800 and q-802, which would you choose?

I also look closely at these pg, and also vibrate between these two models, it seems more like the q-800 model, can you give any advice on this model, I saw them only in the pictures.
ElenaOL
Nobody, but what about friendly advice? And why wait then, I went and ordered a big Clathrosh. Will be brought on Wednesday. And I will probably also order a small one like Anyuta's Kromax ODYSSEY Q-402. I'll try both, which one I like and leave, and then I'll give the other to my son or daughter, like a caring mommy
Anyuta, so I have a question, what have you got there with a spout? I searched and did not find your post, please write.
* Anyuta *
Quote: ElenaOL


Anyuta, so I have a question, what have you got there with a spout? I searched and did not find your post, please write.
She immediately put on brushes with bristles on a small nose and "twisted" them .. apparently the nose was damaged! .. more precisely, it broke a little
Oca
I searched the sites - really stoll 8 bar And seemingly beautiful! The clathronic was sold in the store, now I can dream again ...
And then there are the 802 and 803 models, which seem to be the same powerful ...
Found in my city for 4420 p. and for 3760 rubles 801st model, and for 4280 rubles 803rd model. To take or is it expensive? I'm sitting, digging the Internet, it's already 3 o'clock in the morning ... what do you recommend?

The rest of the prices for what is within a radius of 15 km:
2 820rub Clatronic DR 3280
2 820rub Bomann DR 921 CB
RUB 4,890-RUB 5,023 Gorenje SC 1800 R
but Odysseus has 8 bar ...
ElenaOL


When I was choosing, I also considered these models, although I was more inclined towards Kromax ODYSSEY Q-800, shoveled the entire Internet and this is what I found on the website of the Wikimart online store:
Odyssey Q-800 Review
Comment: I'm not very happy with the product. The instructions say you can use it as soon as the indicator stops burning, which I did not wait for. Water splashes with steam. Also, water runs through the hose, a plastic gun, burns hands. The volume of the tank is stated to be 1 liter, but when I poured 600 ml, the water already ran through the top. There should be an adjustment of the steam power, I did not find this regulator either in the instructions or on the steamer, it simply does not exist ....... There are not enough nozzles in the set for aiming arrows at trousers and cleaning clothes, the irons in the instructions are declared from stainless steel, actually plastic.
If you need to give a link.
Model wrote about 801 SVK222 on page 89.
ElenaOL
Yesterday my big Klatrosh came, but I already love him. When I got suspicious: like the box is a little wrinkled, then the smell of plastic, then the thought: it’s not big, but where to put it, but will it work ... and in general, but I need it.
It is necessary, necessary, it is easy to handle it, the steam is strong, dry, the water does not flow. I redid a lot of work and only positive emotions. The choice was made thanks to the reviews of the girls, thanks
Oca
Congratulations on your purchase of Klatroshi !!! Let it serve for a long time and faithfully!
Quote: ElenaOL

When I was choosing, I also considered these models, although I was more inclined towards Kromax ODYSSEY Q-800, I shoveled the entire Internet
So I'm digging, on pages 51 and 89, the only mentions of the model of interest. As for the jambs - a few pages ago, they even wrote about Karcher that they forgot to insert the gasket. Clastronic and Borman criticize ... Burning on one of the sites to smithereens, they say there is not even a 3 bar. If you look from the other side, when I bought the HP, I was also told that it does not stir in the corners, the bucket creaks, etc., but in my model, so far, etc., everything is in order. Apparently, whoever gets lucky
I thought that what I needed was not a steamer, but something like a washing vacuum cleaner with a function of spraying not very hot water. The price for such a model does not seem to be too high. Take a chance?
ElenaOL
Quote: Oca

Congratulations on your purchase of Klatroshi !!! Let it serve for a long time and faithfully! So I'm digging, on pages 51 and 89, the only mentions of the model of interest. As for the jambs - a few pages ago, they even wrote about Karcher that they forgot to insert the gasket. Clastronic and Borman criticize ... Burning on one of the sites to smithereens, they say there is not even a 3 bar. If you look from the other side, when I bought the HP, I was also told that it does not stir in the corners, the bucket creaks, etc., but in my model, so far, etc., everything is in order. Apparently, whoever gets lucky
I thought that what I needed was not a steamer, but something like a washing vacuum cleaner with a function of spraying not very hot water. The price for such a model does not seem to be too high. Take a chance?
Thank you for your congratulations.
Take a chance? No, IMHO, There is a lot of inconsistency, even on the site itself. OcaMost of the complaints are that water is pouring along with the steam, which means their bars, this is just marketing. Again, this is just my personal opinion.
ElenaOL
This is from the site:
Manual steamer / steam cleaner ODYSSEY Q-403

Handheld steamer / steam cleaner ODYSSEY Q-403 Compact handheld steamer with classic functions of ironing and steaming clothes, cleaning and disinfecting various surfaces, carpets, furniture and household items.

Its main advantages are light weight and size, the ability to work both vertically and horizontally. The volume of the water tank is only 180ml, and the weight of the device itself is 1.2 kg! With this small but powerful device with a comfortable handle, you can quickly, with a minimum of effort, iron hard-to-clean things (jackets, blouses, shirts, evening dresses, etc.) right on a hanger, refresh outerwear (jackets, coats, sheepskin coats, fur coats), clean and steam, without removing from the eaves, heavy curtains, wash and disinfect the whole house, the most inaccessible places and surfaces. In order to wash the car and clean the interior, you only need one glass of water and a little time - goodbye, expensive dry cleaning! ...


Main characteristics:


Additional attachments:
Rated power 900 W
Power consumption 220 V, 50 Hz
Steam output up to 35 g / min
Steam pressure up to 2.5 bar
Max. steam temperature 130 °
Water tank volume 450 ml
Ready for work 3 min
Continuous work time 8 min
Steam power adjustment no
Power cord length
Size (cm)
Weight (kg) without accessories 1.0
Color White-blue

So, how much is the volume of the tank?
* Anyuta *
Quote: Oca

Take a chance?

Mash, I do not agree with Lena ... I have Kromakh ... a kettle of 450 ml ... pouring water "to the bottom" ... (exactly 450 ml - measured out with a measuring glass) .. this fact also outraged me .. I got into the instructions, and there it is written to pour no more than 200-250 ml of water ... t.That is, 1/2 of the declared volume (this is apparently so that there is a place for "steam generation" inside the container) .. I found by my own experiments that for my model it is quite possible to pour 400 ml of water ... literally 2 puffs in sink (to drain the water) and I calmly use the steam generator
* Anyuta *
this is my Universal handheld steamer-steam cleaner ODYSSEY Q-402 with the functions of fragrance and "Sauna for the face".
Steam cleaner (steam generator)
Svetlana_12
Anyuta, what power does he have? Rem how much?
Scarlett
Anyut, do you use the "Sauna"? And then I'm even after the "parka" toilet bowl ..... I'm afraid. Yes, and he is small-sized - it is more like an inhaler (I have exactly one, only "Hilton" is called - in a homely way - Hillary Clinton "
ElenaOL
Quote: * Annie *

Mash, I do not agree with Lena ... I have Kromakh ... a kettle of 450 ml ... pouring water "to the bottom" ... (exactly 450 ml - measured out with a measuring glass) .. this fact also outraged me .. I got into the instructions, and it says to pour no more than 200-250 ml of water ... that is, 1/2 of the declared volume (this is probably so that there is a place inside the container for "steam generation") .. I I found by my own experiments that for my model it is quite possible to pour 400 ml of water ... literally 2 puffs into the sink (to drain the water) and I calmly use the steam generator
And about such, there is not a single bad review, and you Anyuta praised him, so I ordered such a baby for myself, especially since he will come to me with a discount for little money. (900r)
* Anyuta *
Quote: Svetlana_12

Anyuta, what power does he have? Rem how much?
Short description:
steamer-steam cleaner, power 900 W, steam pressure 3.5 bar, 28 g / min, 130 ° С, heating time 240 sec

Quote: Scarlett

Anyut, do you use the "Sauna"? And then I'm even after the "parka" toilet bowl ..... I'm afraid. Yes, and he is small-sized - it is more like an inhaler (I have exactly one, only "Hilton" is called - like home - Hillary Clinton "(my husband christened)
no .. only for "need" - and there is no time to engage in such "pampering" ...

Kromakh in Russia is the Hilton in Ukraine!

* Anyuta *
Quote: ElenaOL

And about such, there is not a single bad review, and you Anyuta praised him, so I ordered such a baby for myself, especially since he will come to me with a discount for little money. (900r)

Flax, I wrote this to the fact that the volume of water must be chosen "correctly" .... And in general, I think that there are no ideal things (in terms of technology) .. I am already thoroughly looking at BOMANN DR 921 CB (aka CLATRONIC DR 3280 in Ukraine)
ElenaOL
Quote: * Annie *

Flax, I wrote this to the fact that the volume of water must be chosen "correctly" .... And in general, I think that there are no ideal things (in terms of technology) .. I am already thoroughly looking at BOMANN DR 921 CB (aka CLATRONIC DR 3280 in Ukraine)

CLATRONIC DR 3280- I have one, I bought it in an Internet store, there was also BOMANN DR 921, since they said that they were brothers, it didn't matter which one to order.
Yes, there are no ideal things, but I want to use the thing for pleasure. Yesterday I was so puffed that I myself gave off no less steam
Oca
Whoever finds reviews of my jug, the prize has passed a year from the date of purchase.
Quote: Oca

Briefly unsubscribe about my purchase: Sinbo SSC 6401 steam cleaner, gray-silver color, "jug with handle" on the 3rd wire. The promised pressure is about 3 atmospheres, the capacity is 250 ml, it costs about 1.5 tons.
At the office. website stated Capacity 0.35 liters. But if you pour 250 ml or a little more, it will spit two meters. I bought it blindly, I liked the design and the set of nozzles. Odysseus has even more all sorts of tricks ... I believe in fate, she has bred me and Klatronic more than once in different directions. If I make a mistake with the purchase, or suddenly there will be a marriage, I will return it to the store.

Reflections on pressure and steam ... remembering physics, about the fact that gas / steam cools during expansion, I can assume that the higher the pressure in the tank, the higher the temperature in it, but when a higher pressure is released (say 5 atm.) Steam expands 5 times, and cools more strongly than steam arriving at 3 atm., increasing its volume only 3 times. Are the heat losses during expansion compensated by the initial temperature in the tank?
* Anyuta *
Quote: Oca

Reflections on pressure and steam ...remembering physics, that the gas / steam cools during expansion, I can assume that the greater the pressure in the tank, the higher the temperature in it, but when a higher pressure is released (say 5 atm.), the steam will expand 5 times and cool down more than steam arriving at 3 atm., which increased its volume only 3 times. Are the heat losses during expansion compensated by the initial temperature in the tank?

well Masha, made me laugh ... .. being an engineer by education and studying physics for 2 more years at the institute (and all two years I had a "four" in the group, not a single five on the stream, and the rest were all with "triples" "walked), even the first time I didn't understand what was written!
Oca
Quote: * Annie *

I didn't even understand what was written the first time!
I am simplifying the question: is it possible to calculate according to Mendeleev-Clapeyron, or is such a vapor no longer described by the ideal gas model?
* Anyuta *
Quote: Oca

I am simplifying the question: is it possible to calculate according to Mendeleev-Clapeyron, or is such a vapor no longer described by the ideal gas model?

I don't even know what to answer ... but without going deep into physics I can tell you .. nafig need such pressure, they just can "tear down" the entire coating along with the blown dust ...
Manna
Not, Mashun, there is a logical inaccuracy in the reasoning. Here
Quote: Oca

but when a higher pressure is released (let's say 5 atm.), the steam will expand 5 times, and cool down more than the steam that arrived at 3 atm., which increased its volume only 3 times
You do not take into account the temperature and density of steam at different pressures, the fact that with an increase in steam pressure, both the specific enthalpy of steam and its heat capacity increase ...
Look
At a steam pressure of 3 bar, its temperature is 133 ° C, density is 1.65 kg / m3, specific enthalpy - 2724.7 kJ / kg, heat capacity - 2.198 kJ / kg * t
At a steam pressure of 5 bar, its temperature is 152 ° C, density is 2.67 kg / m3, specific enthalpy - 2747.5 kJ / kg, heat capacity - 2.329 kJ / kg * t.
I mean that there will not be a significant difference in the rate of cooling of the steam ... But the fact that steam from the area of ​​its pressure of 5 bar into the area of ​​normal pressure will be pushed out with greater force is unambiguous
Svetlana_12
The girls brought me a steam cleaner Ariette 4103. and Please write urgently who has one, how is it at work?
Svetlana_12
I had no choice, which one they brought and I had to pick it up. Yesterday I tried it at work. I have two tiled walls in my kitchen. The tile cleans very well, shines like new. My microwave is already seven years old. And it was problematic to clean the air holes on the top and side of the MV. I used to use cotton swabs or toothpicks. Now the microwave just shines, washed off perfectly. The only thing is that the spiral at the top remained brown, I was afraid to go there, I think it will suddenly deteriorate
fugaska
After cleaning the micru, I left it to dry for about a day. at night with the door open, during the day I simply did not use it. everything is fine, it works
Manna
And I dried it with a hairdryer
Oca
Has brought !!! Kromax Odyssey Q-801, pinkish There are all sorts of nozzles and rags I had to read the instructions for what each of them. Soon I'll fill in water and ... * to be continued *
Lagri
Quote: Oca

Has brought !!! Kromax Odyssey Q-801, pinkish There are all sorts of attachments and rags
Masha, did I understand that this is the second steam cleaner? Looked ... handsome! Many different attachments. Generally ! Congratulations on a great purchase! I, too, are already thinking about the second, but I will choose for a long time. The one I bought is also very good, but I'm not thinking about the manual one.
femina_alba
Take me into your ranks. I am now also with a steam. Small jug. I ordered it through a local joint venture. I steamed the upholstery of the sofa and the window sill. While happy, only the hand gets tired. And then how to wash a rag, otherwise it is already dirty for me. But he just doesn't take soap. She won't be white already?
dandelion
For some reason, the upholstery of the sofa did not work out for me. After several motions of the parosik, there were AWESOME stripes - moose ((((Oooooooo pretty !!!!
Manna
Quote: Oca

Has brought !!! Kromax Odyssey Q-801, pink
Mashunya, congratulations on your purchase !!!
And I immediately climbed to look, what is the enta
Vota
Steam cleaner (steam generator) Steam cleaner (steam generator)
I didn't understand the current, is it a steamer or a steam cleaner?
Manna
Quote: femina_alba

She won't be white already?
Perfect white is gone

Quote: dandelion

For some reason, the upholstery of the sofa did not work out for me. After several motions of the parosik, there were AWESOME stripes - moose ((((Ooooooooo pretty !!!!
Like this? Is it with a rag or just a nozzle?
Oca
Quote: dandelion

Congratulations on the little steam! I have 802 cromax.
We need to make them friends, blue and pink
So, Steam cleaner & steamer Kromax Odyssey Q-801 (two in one, thanks to the regulation of the steam supply)
Steam cleaner (steam generator)
Models 802 and 803 seem to differ only in color.
I am reporting. It is assembled normally, the transparent cover of the nozzle compartment is a little clumsy at the edges, otherwise there are no burrs. Latches and various fasteners fit perfectly together, fit into grooves without effort, fastened parts do not wobble - they hold tight. A nice little thing: in addition to the attachments, the box contained two bags with spare ring-pads, red and transparent.
Turning on. I connected the trunk and nozzles with the steam cleaner, put the yellow safety button (located on the gun) in the "closed" position. I never figured out where the "maximum mark" is, above which water should not be poured. I poured 900 ml of filtered water, turned it on ... the power button is closed with a convex rubber band, next to it there is a steam pressure regulator. The first few minutes the steam cleaner smelled noticeably of hot plastic, then either it stopped, or my scent was knocked off. His belly is warm, the handle for dragging is also noticeably heated, it will be 40 degrees. Steam began to seep out from under the screwed lid a little - it is not known how in this model, but the jug has a built-in relief valve for excess pressure. I don't know if I did the right thing or not, but I pressed down on the lid and twisted it another half turn - the steam was gone.

Tests. She removed it from the fuse, when the trigger is pressed, a mechanical click is heard - in parallel with this, you can hear how the valve in the steam cleaner opens. I was waiting for it to "flow" from the nose. At least a jug with a nozzle-trunk is "written" for the first few "zips", but here the first 2-3 clicks were idle, then steam immediately poured out!
First nozzle with the narrowest nozzle, it is recommended to use it at 1/2 of the maximum pressure of the schaz ... the gas pedal to the floor - rushed! I washed the taps, the nets in the sinks, the toilet and even the sneakers (after which I had to wash the sink). Compared to the petty Sinba, there is steam here, whoa! The cleaning speed increases 2-3 times. It was a mistake to start washing the stain from dirty hands on the door - the dirt was blown away along with the paint, when the spout was brought 2 cm or closer to the surface. But the old bloopers of paint on the tiles flew in different directions. The skirting boards and tile joints have steamed well.
Second nozzle - for ironing (it is also the basis of the glass nozzle) with a cloth on. I built a pole from tubes (as in the picture), attached a hanger ... again it is not clear how to attach clothespins there (Added later: you don't have to be afraid to put them on, they will fit). I hooked my trousers on as it turned out, began to iron - good! No more bruises! You just need to put on a glove from the kit, otherwise scald your finger like me ... the steam is hot enough!
Third nozzle for floors with bristles. The floor was clean, I just moved around to watch it work. He does not spit, breathes on the tile with steam, after which it is necessary to collect the water with a rag or reduce the steam to a minimum - otherwise it pours out a lot of water, not everything dries out.
Fourth nozzle for windows. I know that they will ask about it. It is better to put steam at 20% of the maximum, with full pressure there will be a flood. Since it got dark outside, the glass was washed by 4.5 points out of 5. The fact that the outer cold glass fogs up and does not want to dry interferes with it. The inner windows have been washed to a shine! There is a 5-7 mm strip left, but now I do not see which side of the glass it didn’t burn off.I was surprised that the trunk + 3 extension rods + nozzle give normal steam at the outlet, and not just dripping water.
Hoses, a gun, extension nozzles do not get very hot, steam does not leak out of anywhere, like the horrors from the Internet did not materialize
The water did not end there, but I was already tired. Parosik all this time obediently ran after me on his wheels, dragging a cord and a 5-meter extension cord from behind. There was one small inconvenience: walking backwards, he ran into the cord, then I stuck one of the extension sticks with a spear on the top into it, and hung a wire on it - it stopped interfering. The pistol, by the way, is also convenient to hang on the flyer sticking out of the steam cleaner. Now I will have a little pink elephant to live 🔗
dandelion
Quote: manna

Perfect white is gone
Like this? Is it with a rag or just a nozzle?

I put a rag on the nozzle and there were traces where I carried out the steam. It's a shame, the sofa is new and expensive, it's good that you can only see it in disassembled form. UPHOLSTERY is monochromatic, on the other sofa is multi-colored and this was not the case. In general, I no longer experiment.
dandelion
Mashun, let's marry these elephants

It is very interesting to find out about sneakers. The son offered to process his shoes with a pair of shoes (the poor man suffers with his 47 size). I was afraid that they would creep and knock out the glue. I have stained glass paints from the floor in a few seconds, plasticine removes steam, I thought it was dangerous for shoes.
Oca
Quote: dandelion

Mashun, let's marry these elephants
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There were 2 pairs of sneakers, it's not a pity, because both are not new: some are more rag, the second are white from an incomprehensible material, which would be obtained by mixing leatherette with cardboard Just in the rain I brought a steam shoe home, smearing white sneakers to horror. They are waterproof, with a complex sole and side relief. She put it on her hand, dipped it into the sink (but still splashed dirt), holding the end of the nozzle with a thin nozzle five centimeters from the shoe, soaked it and blew the earth out of the cracks and soles. The laces have lightened There are small traces in the "creases" and small cracks, but there is no steam - it gets inside and breaks the coating. The last time, for the sake of experiment, I rubbed these places with amvene bleach - the dirt really disappeared, but after a couple of days it got filled up again.
Crust
Girls, and someone considered this as a purchase option: Manual steamer / steam cleaner ODYSSEY Q-408
Attracts: pressure 3.5 and temperature 135, the possibility of using chemicals. although the latter is optional.
Question: do they differ in the quality of plastic from clathronic?
Or maybe add a thousand and take this: Bissell 16Q1-J Steam Shot Steam Cleaner?
Svetlana_12
A question for connoisseurs of steam cleaners. I bought Ariette 4103 recently. The stated operating time is 20 minutes. If you get carried away and work for them more time, isn't it dangerous? If the water runs out, can it go bad, or is there an automatic shutdown? Please answer how to determine that the water is running out? And what kind of water is better to fill, so as not to spoil it with scale as much as possible. It is impossible to clean scale there, right?
IraIgnatova
Quote: Crust

Girls, and someone considered this as a purchase option: Manual steamer / steam cleaner ODYSSEY Q-408
Attracts: pressure 3.5 and temperature 135, the possibility of using chemicals. although the latter is optional.
Question: do they differ in the quality of plastic from clathronic?
Or maybe add a thousand and take this: Bissell 16Q1-J Steam Shot Steam Cleaner?

Hello dear forum users!
I read this thread for a long time and in the end, without drawing conclusions from your work done and your lessons (shame on my head !!!), on Saturday, February 2, I went and bought an Odysseus -408 (bribed a capacity of 1200, an increased tank by 470 ml and additional detergent tank). I let him clean up today. Conclusions:
1. A steam cleaner with a cord length of exactly 2 meters (she cursed everything in the world by dragging an extension cord behind her)
2.I did not observe the declared 3.5 bars during its entire operation (I made conclusions from the video shown on the same thread where the Clatronic DR2930 cleans the gas stove. In Clatronic, the same 3.5 bars at a power of 1000, the steam jet beats concretely and for a long time. Odyssey is good if it is 2.5 with a power of 1200 - which is what I was led to).
3. I also had a chance in the Odyssey on a tank with a size of 470 ml (you can actually fill in 300 ml, it gives out 3-4 jets more or less strong, then we sit and wait for the steam to be generated again, after that the steam jets are less strong). The box claims a continuous run time of 15 minutes. Really 8-10 minutes (then you need to add water again). Of these 8-10 minutes, 5-6 minutes are spent on the fact that I stared at him blankly and waited for the steam to generate.
4. I could not test the additional tank for the detergent, but I also did not expect anything good from this venture.
I saw the above post and decided to write urgently so that someone else would not fall for these dubious charms.
Conclusion: tomorrow we are going with my husband or change or rent (since there is nothing to change on the site). I don't know what will come of this venture, I'm afraid that in the end, so as not to lose money, they will offer me the same thing. But I think that this is not a factory marriage, but this is how this Odysseus works.
I would like to ask the owners of the Clatronic dr2930 (jug) to answer: how long does the steam jet hit until the next heating (maybe I put it wrong: from the start of work until the moment you have to wait for the steam to be generated again). And does the video where the gas stove is cleaned with Clathronic correspond to reality (there I noticed that the woman cleans the stove without interrupting the video filming for 2 minutes. And that is how much time Klatronic does not stop generating steam. And one more question: the volume of the Clathronic tank is stated to be 220 ml - this is really, you can fill that much into the tank or less.Thanks to everyone who will answer my questions.
P.S. I apologize, I forgot to write: this Odysseus is heavy, my hand gets tired. All the same 2.3 kg. And what is the weight of Klatronic?
Aveskulova
Quote: Svetlana_12

A question for connoisseurs of steam cleaners. I have Ariette 4103 4103 I bought it recently. The stated operating time is 20 minutes. If you get carried away and work for them more time, isn't it dangerous? If the water runs out, can it go bad, or is there an automatic shutdown? Please answer how to determine that the water is running out? And what kind of water is better to fill, so as not to spoil it with scale as much as possible. It is impossible to clean scale there, right?
Svetlana, I have Ariette 4107/1, but I think the principle of their operation is the same) If the water runs out in the tank, then there is no steam jet, you will immediately see and feel it, I turn it off, let it cool down a little, fill in a new portion of water, and work further. I pour distilled water, my husband bought 5 liters in a car store.
Stafa
We have 50-52 rubles 5 liters, my husband also buys me in a car shop.

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