Katerok87
Quote: Creamy
At first I dabbled, it turns out well, now the machine is resting
Alevtina, for what reason?
Creamy
Katerok87, and this machine has a semi-industrial speed, you can quickly make a mountain of dumplings. Boring, I made a bunch and a whole freezer drawer needs to be occupied with dumplings. And then there are them for a long, long time. Well I say it's boring. It turned out that so many dumplings were not needed.
Zhanik
Quote: Creamy
It turned out that so many dumplings are not needed
Alevtina!
Send us!
I did not dare to buy a model with glasses for a bunch of reasons. And the main thing is I want a robot .... I want it, I don't want it. The price really stops, and most importantly, the unstable result ...
Creamy
Zhanik, Natalia, I just have a glass, like Irina Caprice. The main thing there is to choose - in tandem, the required viscosity of the minced meat and the density of the dough, then just have time to lay out the dumplings.
Fifanya
Quote: Creamy
this machine has a semi-industrial speed, you can quickly make a mountain of dumplings.
A serious problem with this machine is the availability of sufficient freezer space.
I roll out the dough from Timkina to 8 on Kenwood (9 in total), then once on a typewriter so that the size coincides in width and the minced meat, fart, guarantees an excellent result
Caprice
Quote: Fifanya

A serious problem with this machine is the availability of sufficient freezer space.
This, indeed, autumn is a serious "drawback" of the dumpling machine
Therefore, I rarely cook due to the lack of this very place.




Quote: Creamy

It turned out that so many dumplings were not needed.
And for the sake of "little dumplings" the machine is lazy to get and install
Ddima333
Creamyoddly enough, I have the best option when the dough is as steep as possible. And the minced meat goes well scrolled at the maximum holes in the auger meat grinder (chilled pork shoulder + a little beef + onion + oil + ice water). There are no problems with extrusion.

Fifanya, a serious problem is the low freezing speed. Whatever one may say, but wait 30-40 minutes until it grabs, you need. It's good that at this moment most of the time you can do other things, and not roll out the dough and not push the minced meat. In general, it seems to me that compared to the manual method, nifiga does not come out faster. But it's easier - definitely.

PS / Happy everyone! Health to everyone, buy the rest for money! )
Katerok87
Girls, thanks for the advice!
Now on Rutaobao there is an 80 percent discount on delivery before January 2, i.e. 5,108 rubles plus delivery of $ 89 minus 80% for delivery. Temka has not yet had time to read to the end. Somewhere I glimpsed that it is better to buy an additional container right away. Can you buy it from one seller in one package or what? Please advise what and how! Happy New Year!
Creamy
Ddima333, DmitriyI have a place to freeze large quantities of dumplings, since there is a large freezer in the kitchen fridge and a large freezer high with many drawers in the pantry adjacent to the kitchen. So out of laziness, you can make a lot of dumplings at a time, and then eat these dumplings and eat, eat, eat, well, the dumplings never run out. This dumpling machine is needed for a large family.
Svetlenki
Quote: Creamy
So out of laziness, you can make a lot of dumplings at a time, and then eat these dumplings and eat, eat, eat, well, the dumplings never run out.



CreamyAlevtina, I understand you.And if you consider that making dumplings for two from fresh dough that is in the refrigerator, with frozen minced meat from the molds will take, well, maybe 15 minutes (while the water in the pan heats up), then this machine is not really needed And no problems with dough cracking after the freezer in principle

Fifanya
Quote: Ddima333
a serious problem is the slow freezing speed. Whatever one may say, but you need to wait 30-40 minutes until it grabs.
I have a huge Liebherr, it helps a little. In the upper tray about 10 minutes it is necessary for the dumplings to grab and you can safely line the second layer.
But due to the fact that often there is not much space for further storage, you have to manually make dumplings
That is, I get a dumpling machine when I'm waiting for a lot of eaters
Creamy
Svetlenki, Sveta, yes, I have now switched to "make dumplings for one meal", it is really, very fast, completely relaxed, it takes 25 minutes from the beginning of kneading the dough to a plate with ready-made hot dumplings, while all the dishes and the desktop are tidied up, there are no traces or hints that dumplings have just been made here.
Katerok87
] a serious problem is the slow freezing speed. Whatever one may say, but wait 30-40 minutes until it grabs, you need. [
And why can't you just sprinkle the pallet with flour from a strainer and dumplings on top, and you can immediately put it in a bag and refrigerator?
Ddima333
Quote: Katerok87
And why can't you just sprinkle the pallet with flour from a strainer and dumplings on top and you can immediately go into the bag and refrigerator?
They didn't do that, it seems to me that you will need a lot of flour, and the dumplings (and they are pressed against each other in the bag) will stick together anyway. It's scary to try, to be honest, I would not want to get a healthy mono pelmeni. And so some stick together, though a little.
Scarecrow
Ddima333,

So we need a whatnot for freezing. Although she still needs some space.
Irgata
An electric drier tray with rims is a good container for freezing dumplings and dumplings. I put them on top of each other. Not wide trays (dry m5 or m8, izedri500, or dryers of similar diameter) are included in the freezer. To easily remove the dumplings from the tray, I cover the tray with either a thin cloth or net.

A tray from an electric dryer, a baking sheet, a board - you can put more than one layer of small dumplings on them, especially if they are flattened on a dumplings or raviolnitsa, they are even: I cover the first layer of dumplings with a thick cloth rubbed on top with flour, a layer of dumplings on the fabric, such layers can be put 3-4. Frozen dumplings are easy to remove from the fabric.

Teflon grill nets, either round or rectangular, are also very convenient for laying between layers of dumplings, they can be removed at a time, conveniently, the size of the nets is suitable for any freezer.
julia_bb
Quote: Irsha
Not wide trays (dry m5 or m8, izedri500, or dryers of similar diameter) are included in the freezer.
Oh, I don't know, I have small freezer compartments at home, from Isidri it is not included. I bought three trays for freezing dumplings
Katerok87
Quote: Ddima333
They didn't do that, it seems to me that you will need a lot of flour, and the dumplings (and they are pressed against each other in the bag) will stick together anyway. It's scary to try, to be honest, I would not want to get a healthy mono pelmeni. And so some stick together, though a little.
Dmitry, while I'm sculpting with the help of a dough roller and a mold, I sprinkle a pallet from a mechanical sieve with flour
(It turns out a uniform, thin layer) and I also immediately put the finished dumplings in a bag in the freezing (though maybe they die a little) They stick together a little, but not all of them, and if they stick together, they are easily separated without loss of quality. At the end of the work, I collect the flour from the pallet with a silicone spatula and put it back into the container. It doesn't take much flour for sprinkling. The shops are also sprinkled. And another thing I like is that flour gives the broth a certain thickness. What kind of machine do you have, plastic or iron?
Mirabel
Maybe someone saw freezing trays on Ali?
Quote: Irsha
Teflon grill nets,
And if in a container between layers of dumplings to lay such a grid? Will each dumpling be separate?
For me, the most stressful moment in the breeding-dumpling-mantysh production is to find a place in the freezer.
I take out the contents from several shelves, put everything from a basin or a bucket and cover it tightly, as the dumplings freeze, transfer them into bags. Then I send the contents of the shelves back. This is horrible !!!
Fifanya
Mirabel, Yes, Vika, the most difficult thing is finding a place. The old skill of playing Tetris helps here. At the dawn of the appearance of these toys, the husband brought from the flight with Mario, Tetris and Tanchiki. And we agreed: in the evening, whoever loses, he washes the dishes and takes the child to the kindergarten in the morning, regardless of the shift or watch. Dad in the kindergarten was known and loved by children and educators, and I was the first, both at work and among my friends, to have a dishwasher, which, give her health works to this day
Irgata
It's still good for dumplings, silicone substrates for hot - some dumplings are included on them, I stuff them into a bag and into some slot in the freezer, more often such a substrate includes just a portion for one not gluttonous person
but you can put a stack of piles of dumplings in a bag and put them in the freezer
Ddima333
Katerok87, iron, managed to take it at the end of summer.

To all, interesting discussion on freezing, thanks ... I have plastic concave trays with holes and legs for washing fruits; I use them for freezing. I'll add a couple more Teflon baking nets (if I imagine them correctly) and try layering. You look, it will work out without interruption.
elenas
What kind of beast is the machine that you are discussing that makes so many dumplings quickly? maybe someone has a photo or share a reference on the product?
Ddima333
elenas, see the second post of this thread. There is a photo.
Mirabel
Quote: Ddima333
plastic concave pallets with holes
Can I ask you to show them? photo or link to them.
julia_bb
Mirabel, Vika, I think about such speech. I see such people in Auchan all the time.
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Mirabel
Yulia, Yulechka! Thank you! so cool! I haven't seen this here ...
Irgata
Quote: Ddima333
I will add a couple more teflon nets for baking (if I correctly imagine)

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Katerok87
Quote: Ddima333
iron, managed to take it at the end of summer.
Dmitry, why do you write that you managed to buy, that is, under some favorable conditions?
Quote: elenas
What kind of beast is the machine that you are discussing that makes so many dumplings quickly? maybe someone has a photo or share a reference on the product?
I read up to 20 pages and I look at this link 🔗 and choose a price of 40 and different iron ones will pop up at a price of 5108 rubles for $ 83 delivery and a plastic one with a red lid, I don’t know how to describe them differently. By the way, an 18% promotion was also added for any purchase, including 80% for delivery until January 2, and then within 10 or 12 days I don’t remember it will be possible to pay for the order.
Caprice
Quote: Katerok87

Dmitry, why do you write that you managed to buy, that is, under some favorable conditions?
Dmitry wrote about this earlier:
Quote: Ddima333

End of an era?
Now I looked at aliexpress. The iron dumplings are all gone, I see only one offer at a high price for a purchase and an even higher price for delivery. But a plastic robot appeared for 17,000.
This topic has been running since 2010. I thought these cars would always be on sale, but this is a bummer. It's good that I managed to buy it. In general, take care of your units, it's not a fact that the Chinese will have them again.
Lerele
Mirabel, they were in our chibo, but not cheap.
Mirabel
Lerele, well, and with the shipment will generally be gold. Can someone make a more budgetary option.
Lerele
Mirabel, what about you? They periodically repeat the assortment. Especially the kitchen one. Three times they sell the same thing. And I saw it a long time ago, then I bought myself a silicone sheet for rolls and these trays were, only I twirled it in my hands and did not take it, it seemed that it was not necessary.
Katerok87
Quote: Ddima333 on Dec 18. 2017, 20:57
End of an era?
Now I looked at aliexpress.The iron dumplings are all gone, I see only one offer at a high price for a purchase and an even higher price for delivery. But a plastic robot appeared for 17,000.
Ahhh, it's clear now)
So, it seems that there are 5108 rubles for iron rutaobao plus shipping.
And plastic 11 thousand plus shipping gold 190 $
Ddima333
julia_bb, they are.

The idea was to put them on top of each other, but the legs get in the way and, in general, the dumplings are thicker than the height of the legs.
So I plan further the first layer on a pallet, the second and then through a polyester mat under the dishes (in the form of a very fine mesh), I have already bought 80 rubles from the Metro. let's see how it goes.

Lerele, judging by the profile, you are writing from Germany. Then, most likely, you had original Risto dumplings on sale. They were also offered by online stores in Moscow a couple of years ago. As far as I understand, they were invented by either Italians or Germans, and the Chinese copied and also began to sell. Riveted to the warehouse and sold for several years; both sold and lost offers on ali. "I see so!" (from) .




Katerok87, rutaobao - a derivative site from the Chinese one, may lag behind the range. The main thing is that they are in Chinese.
Caprice
Quote: Ddima333

Lerele, judging by the profile, you are writing from Germany. Then, most likely, you had original Risto dumplings on sale. Online stores offered them in Moscow a couple of years ago. As far as I understand, they were invented by either Italians or Germans, and the Chinese copied and also began to sell. Riveted to the warehouse and sold for several years; both sold and lost offers on ali. "I see so!" (from) .
But I see it differently. They were all made in China. Perhaps even on the same conveyor. It's just that various wholesale large firms often order the release of large quantities of goods under their own logo. One of these logos was Risto.
In Israel, many large retail chains sell goods under their own logo. This does not mean that these chains have their own factories producing these goods.
Lerele
Ddima333, well, I have this Risto machine, I showed it in the subject. No different from cars from China, everything is the same.
Dynamite
Under the influence of this topic, I ordered a dumpling machine on Ebei. We are waiting on December 6th. Interestingly, at first they ordered from another seller, but after receiving the money, he wrote two days later that there were no cars in the warehouse and would appear in three weeks, I asked to close the deal and return the money. Returned. Bought from another, a little more expensive, sent in a day, though the parcel has not been tracked until now. Well, let's hope it will. And in this regard, it is possible, in order not to climb the entire multi-page topic, to lay out once again proven dough recipes?
Fifanya
DynamiteThe most optimal dough to understand what should be Dumpling maker and dumpling dish # 1736

Minced meat with a consistency like Lazerson mix well Preparation of meatballs and more in silicone ice cube trays # 1470
Dynamite
Quote: Fifanya

DynamiteThe most optimal dough to understand what should be Dumpling maker and dumpling dish # 1736

Minced meat with a consistency like that of Lazerson, mix well Preparing meatballs and more in silicone ice cube trays # 1470
Thank you! Otherwise, I don't want to experiment for half a day under hungry looks.
Fifanya
Dynamite, You, the main thing, fix the spring well on the piston, it is such an infection, it tends to unhook and get lost .. (And put a spring from the automatic handle in stock so that if you drop it, do not worry)
Here about her with Sveta and further with Ira Machine for making dumplings, ravioli # 1109
Here Ira writes about rolling the dough (I do the same)
Machine for making dumplings, ravioli # 1032
Dynamite
Fifanya, Got it. Thank you!
Katerok87
Quote: Dynamite
Under the influence of this topic, I ordered a dumpling machine on Ebei.
And at what price?
Dynamite
Katerok87, 9 037.
Lisichkalal
Quote: Ddima333
In general, it seems to me that compared to the manual method, nifiga does not come out faster. But it is easier - definitely.
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Svetlenki
Quote: Lisichkalal
Quote: Ddima333 on Dec 31. 2017, 18:28
In general, it seems to me that compared to the manual method, nifiga does not come out faster. But it's easier - definitely.
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Thank you guys for your candor! Seats on the kitchen table NI FIGA no, but the manual method is excellent!
Caprice
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In general, it seems to me that compared to the manual method, nifiga does not come out faster. But it's easier - definitely.
I do not agree. If you cook dumplings in small quantities, like "for one meal", then yes, not faster. But I have neither the strength nor health to sculpt dumplings a little bit.
But the dumplings in our family are not prepared a little at a time. We do quite a lot. A large number of dumplings on a typewriter cooks much faster. This does not mean at all that after that we eat only dumplings. But there is always an opportunity to cook them "for one meal". The rest of the time I have them wonderfully "rest" in sealed packages in the freezer.
And about the fact that it is much easier - this is unambiguous.
Ddima333
Quote: Caprice

I do not agree. ...
I have a clarification: "not faster" because I have to wait 30-40 minutes for each batch to freeze. If you exclude this stage of waiting, then the machine will be faster.
Peter
Caprice, what type of car do you have?
Lisichkalal
And for me everything is approximately the same in time on a typewriter or using a honeycomb shape

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