galinka33
Yes, I understand you. Rotated correctly
Oktyabrinka
in my car, the dough began to chew on one side, as if the rollers were twisted. my husband disassembled and assembled, worked a little and started to junk again, now, as his free time, he will again be dismantling. may do, but says we got a defective one, but at first it worked perfectly. in the evening I will ask if he can advise something, he completely disassembled ours several times.
galinka33
Hurrah! Two hours for disassembly, assembly and fixed the problem) There, the bolt that holds the metal thing "tapping" on the hook turns out to be off. Modified for the Chinese and went dumplings as cute) Tanyusha, thank you for your help
Oktyabrinka
galinka33 , very glad, let it work for a long time and only please
Caprice
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Thank you) And what was your problem? I do not "click" when the minced meat is being fed (I don't even know what it might be ((
There can be several reasons for "not clicking":
The handle of the minced meat container is not turned.
The loop of the container is not on the claw of the machine.
The spring of the container is broken or bounced.




Quote: Oktyabrinka

in my car, the dough began to chew on one side, as if the rollers were twisted. my husband disassembled and assembled, worked a little and started to junk again, now, as his free time, he will again be dismantling. may do, but says we got a defective one, but at first it worked perfectly. in the evening I will ask if he can advise something, he completely disassembled ours several times.
It is necessary to disassemble and clean the inside of the machine. Perhaps a piece of dough is stuck somewhere and dried up.
ludmila_27.79
Quote: Lerele
bought here

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And the machine is the same as everyone else here. At least in appearance.
Lerele, sorry this machine has already been sold. Now on ebay it costs 169 euros plus 59 euros for delivery. It turns out a little expensive. Aliexpress is much cheaper. I wonder if the quality is the same, or is the German one much better and more durable?
sazalexter
Ludmila, And this one doesn't fit?

Lisichkalal
Ludmila, for a typewriter with aliexpress, the French charged me with a tax of 50 euros.
sazalexter
Delivery from the USA

Caprice
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Lerele, sorry this machine has already been sold. Now it costs 169 euros for ebay plus 59 euros for delivery. It turns out a little expensive. Aliexpress is much cheaper. I wonder if the quality is the same, or is the German one much better and more durable?
The quality is the same. They riveted on one conveyor. Only logos were set differently, depending on the wishes of the wholesale customer.
Inquire better about the tax terms of delivery to your country.




I somehow slipped through without tax. Probably lucky. There was a period in Israel that one could buy abroad for up to $ 150. Then I bought it. Then they cut it to $ 75.
ludmila_27.79
I don't know anything about taxes in Spain. I have already ordered this dumpling machine on Aliexpress. It is written DHL free shipping. I made an order 2 days ago, have not sent it yet. Previously, I only bought small things on Ali. But in general, the seller must pay additional costs, since the delivery is free.
Caprice
ludmila_27.79, customs duties and taxes of the recipient country are not paid by any seller. This is the recipient's problem. If the laws of Spain provide for a tax on the purchase of goods abroad over a certain amount, then, simply, until the tax is paid, the goods will not be returned. The shipping company must notify the recipient before receiving the goods.Then they called me on the phone and said that I did not have to pay tax, and the goods would be delivered on such and such a date at such and such a time.
Let's hope Spain does not tax the cost of this car and its shipping.
ludmila_27.79
Caprice, here's what I read about Spain: In a situation with remote purchases of products outside the EU, VAT is paid on the import of goods worth more than 22 euros. If the purchase price exceeds 150 euros, then in addition to VAT, customs duty is also payable. In the case of private shipments, the non-taxable value threshold of the shipped goods is 45 euros.
My order is worth 73 euros and free shipping. That is, I understand that you need to pay VAT 21%. But maybe, after all, the Chinese did not indicate the real cost of the parcel, but underestimated it? By the way, they have not sent it yet, can I ask them to indicate the cost of the parcel 20 euros?
Caprice
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Caprice, here's what I read about Spain: In the situation with remote purchases of products outside the EU, VAT is paid on the import of goods worth more than 22 euros. If the purchase price exceeds 150 euros, then in addition to VAT, customs duty is also payable. In the case of private shipments, the non-taxable value threshold of the shipped goods is 45 euros.
My order is worth 73 euros and free shipping. That is, I understand that you need to pay VAT 21%. But maybe, after all, the Chinese did not indicate the real cost of the parcel, but underestimated it? By the way, they have not sent it yet, can I ask them to indicate the cost of the parcel 20 euros?
It is unlikely that the Chinese did not indicate. They also have problems if they underestimate the cost. As a rule, if the shipping cost is also indicated, then all due payments are charged from the amount of the cost plus shipping. In this case, delivery is free. Most likely, you will have to pay everything that is due from the amount of 73 euros.
Lisichkalal
As I understood, they are confiscated from someone, but someone is lucky. You can't guess here, but it's better to be prepared for this. Not like me))
And more! The tax came to me after 2 weeks or a month after I received the car. That is, they left no choice not to pick up the goods or pay.
Complete chaos! Unfortunately, after that I don’t go to Ali and don’t use the services of tnt (it seems so, I could be wrong)
In turn, the Chinese was asked to reduce the amount, he reduced, but not by the one I asked. And asked to send dhl, he sent another
Caprice
And they called me on the phone, said that I did not have to pay anything, and that they would deliver directly home at the appointed time. If I'm not mistaken, from DHL. It was a long time ago, I certainly don't remember. I remember that I liked the carrier's service.
cvetlk
Good evening everyone! Need your help! After reading about the machine here, we ordered it. While I was waiting, I studied the principles of the production of dumplings. But it is clear that I missed something. Help is needed. It's good that I didn't run to buy meat today, but found a small piece in the freezer, tried to conduct an experiment. The Admin recipe dough on eggs seems to have worked out, but with minced meat, there may be a snag. When the dumplings went, I was beaming with joy, I decided to boil it. I was also surprised that they immediately surfaced, only then I realized that they were empty. I thought that the minced meat was not of the same consistency, I added more water, the result was one dumpling with only minced meat. Of course, you might think that the minced meat is thick, but to be honest I don't know. As a result, I was scared that I would completely ruin the dough, I decided to make manti, and it seemed to me that in any case the minced meat in the manti is even thinner. Now I don't know what to do. If someone tells me I will be very grateful.
Jiri
cvetlk, the risks (notches on the piece of iron) should look at the side of the dough sheeter, and are installed in the center, they give out a portion of minced meat in a dumpling
Lisichkalal
Well, yes, either the risks are incorrectly turned, or the minced meat is not liquid enough.
Svetlana, the main thing is not to worry. Many did not succeed right away. It's one thing to read, and another to do it yourself.
cvetlk
Thank you girls! The risks seem to be right. I myself really think that the minced meat is not liquid enough. Although I still have those doubts.It seemed to me that my minced meat was not at all thick. Now I don't know what kind of consistency it should be. And another question, do you dilute it with water?
ludmila_27.79
Today DHL wanted to deliver me a parcel with a dumpling machine from China, but I was not at home at that moment and they called me and said that I had to pay a customs fee of 44 euros. I didn’t expect the customs to ask so much! This package was 3 days at customs and they called me and asked to send them an email confirmation of payment for this order, I sent them (the order cost 73 euros). According to the law, I read that over 45 euros you need to pay VAT and that's it, and over 150 euros you still need to pay a customs duty of 2%. So where did the customs officers get the figure 44 euros ?! There must be VAT 21% -14 euros. Can I not pick up this parcel at all? And I will get paid 73 euros back?
Lisichkalal
Ludmila, I already wrote before that they charged me about or a little more than 50 euros. I also don’t know how they thought.
So the document that you need to pay was sent after 2 weeks, as I received the dumplings.
I think that you can refuse the goods, then you will not have to pay tax, but you will not be reimbursed for the cost of the dumplings. I think so.
svetlana, when you fill the container with minced meat and close the lid, then when pressed, it should easily come out of the hole. I add water to the minced meat. Plus, I take out the leftovers from the container every time, mix it with minced meat and put it back in.
Minced meat is much thinner than for classic dumplings.
ludmila_27.79
Lisichkalal, I think that if you open a dispute, you should return the money. In the meantime, I wrote to the seller that I do not want to pay customs duty and let them either pay it or send the parcel back and return the money to me.
Lisichkalal
Ludmila, Yes of course. I got it wrong. For some reason I decided that the customs would return the cost and wrote that it would not. Nonsense, of course. This is me on emotions, my favorite device is broken (
Try, of course, to open a dispute.
ludmila_27.79

Quote: Lisichkalal
favorite device broke (
Lisichkalal, the dumpling machine broke down? And what exactly broke there?
The Chinese answered me that they would not pay the customs duty. So you have to think or pay this tax or return this parcel back and demand a refund.
Anchic
Ludmila, read the rules for buying on Ali. Otherwise, they may not return the money. I don't remember already, but customs duty is the buyer's responsibility and a headache.
The seller may withhold the shipping costs.
Lisichkalal
Quote: ludmila_27.79
, the dumpling machine broke down?
No, no, suvidnitsa

Caprice
Check the spring. I wrote about her earlier.




Quote: Lisichkalal

Minced meat is much thinner than for classic dumplings.
Nothing like this. My minced meat is too liquid, I pasted all the dumplings.




Quote: ludmila_27.79

In the meantime, I wrote to the seller that I do not want to pay customs duty and let them either pay it or send the parcel back and return the money to me.
Actually, the seller has nothing to do with customs duties and taxes in your country. He is not required to know the customs regulations of other countries. And you were warned, even before ordering, here in the topic that you will have to pay. With what joy should the seller do this?
Lisichkalal
Quote: Caprice
Minced meat is much thinner than for classic dumplings.

Nothing like this. My minced meat is too liquid, I pasted all the dumplings.
I did not talk about too liquid minced meat, only that it is much thinner than for dumplings without a car. I never add water to ordinary dumplings, only meat and onions. Empirically it will be possible to understand what kind of minced meat is needed for a machine.
Mirabel
Ludmila, customs officers consider the tax "from a lantern." outside the Eurozone.
Quote: Caprice
With what joy should the seller do this?
so I also think that the seller is not in business here ... but we bought a couple of times, so to speak, prohibited

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negotiated with the sellers and everything passed by the customs tax.
Caprice
Quote: Lisichkalal

I did not talk about too liquid minced meat, only that it is much thinner than for dumplings without a car. I never add water to ordinary dumplings, only meat and onions. Empirically, it will turn out to understand what kind of minced meat is needed for a machine.
No, not thinner. Same. I tried thinner. I got worse. Just stupidly "floated" from the presence of liquid in the minced meat.
Lisichkalal
: girl_haha: everyone has their own concept of liquid minced meat;) so no one will tell you exactly, you just need to experimentally, but you can't do without water
cvetlk
Thank you very much! I hope this does not affect the taste (liquid mince). Well, at least I didn't stock up on meat that day, otherwise I would not have taken up a new job for a long time from frustration. I will experiment on a new one on Tuesday. Then I will report back. Thanks again.
ludmila_27.79
Today I received a parcel of a dumpling machine, paid a customs fee of 43 euros. I unpacked the package and was horrified. The car was poorly packed, it was just in two boxes, without any foam or special polytylene. As a result, there are dents on the body, the rotary knob of the dough rolling machine is crumpled, because of this it turns hard and the rollers themselves converge unevenly, where the distance is greater, where the less is. The fixing for the minced meat cup is skewed. I don’t know if they sent me such a machine or it was damaged during transportation. Opened a dispute with Aliexpress for a refund. In vain I contacted this China, I also paid an additional tax, it would be better to order a German Risto.
Lisichkalal
Ludmilahow sad I sympathize with you.
I, too, regretted that I hadn’t bought Rista right away, although they write that her quality is so-so.
It seems that people from Europe find it easier to buy Rrista right away.
Fifanya
About minced meat. For myself, I determined the density of minced meat as semolina porridge, a little denser than smudge. I add finely chopped green onions, norms, do not get stuck (and onions in a meat grinder along with meat). I rarely pour water, add melted butter and knead (about 100-150g of butter per kg of minced meat, depending on humidity, if there is a lot of moisture from the greens, then there is less butter), so the broth in dumplings is more delicious.
The Chinese add soybean oil, finely chopped herbs, soy sauce, ginger and dry spices to the minced meat for dumplings, knead well and go. We opened a Chinese restaurant next to our house, asked to look at their "Pelmen-machine" when I found out what they used to mold. The same as ours. One is twisting the handle, two in the hold. Space speed.
ludmila_27.79
Lisichkalal, Thank you. The seller agrees to return the money only if I return the item (postage at my expense). Why do they need a damaged car? I already paid the customs fee, and if I pay for the shipment, then I will lose more money than I will return. Girls, who had disputes with Aliexpress, how did they end with you?
Mirabel
Ludmila, everything ended in my favor, Write to the seller, take a photo and ask for money back. He asks to send it back, because in the course that you are unlikely to go for such a thing. Anything that was badly packed.
as a last resort, you will return at least a part
Good luck!
Caprice
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Lisichkalal, Thank you. The seller agrees to return the money only if I return the item (postage at my expense). Why do they need a damaged car? I already paid the customs fee, and if I pay for the shipment, then I will lose more money than I will return. Girls, who had disputes with Aliexpress, how did they end with you?
These are their rules. They are constantly warning about this. The return of the goods from them is always at the expense of the buyer.
You have the right to open a dispute within a few days after receiving the goods.
You take pictures of everything, and when you open a dispute, post all these photos as proof. Insist on a refund.
Anchic
Ludmilain order not to return the goods, you must indicate a slightly lower amount for return in a dispute. At least 1 cent.
Svetlenki
Quote: Anchic
Lyudmila, in order not to return the goods, you must indicate a slightly lower amount to return in a dispute. At least 1 cent.

I completely agree. It is very important for the Chinese to save face. You say - what does it matter to me, he sent me a broken machine ... But your goal is to return the money ... Then all means are good for this (within reasonable limits)
Caprice
And be sure to indicate in the dispute that the product was broken because the seller did not pack well.
Gayane Atabekova
I think we should demand to send a new one. And so that the price was indicated with which nothing would have to be paid at customs. Let the seller bear the loss for his poor performance. You need to contact the site management. You won't get anywhere with the seller.




Lyudmila sympathize with you with all my heart. Fight. I ordered 5 little things from different sellers. Received nothing. After 7 months, my daughter wrote to whom there. And lo and behold, a month later everything was sent.
Caprice
On Aliexpress on the site (on the site, not in the application!) There is a support chat in Russian. You should also talk to them by indicating the order number. They give very good advice on how to proceed and can check the deal and sometimes influence the seller. They helped me a couple of times. Go to this chat. Only, it seems, not at night.
Lyi
Quote: ludmila_27.79
The seller agrees to return the money only if I return the item (postage at my expense). Why do they need a damaged car? I already paid the customs fee, and if I pay for the shipment, then I will lose more money than I will return. Girls, who had disputes with Aliexpress, how did they end with you?
Lyudmila, agree to return the goods, but ... DEFEND postage at the expense of the seller, since you are not guilty of damaging the goods, and let him first send you money for shipment, and then there will be a shipment. I wrote: "... I do not mind, return the goods when the seller pays the postage, since there is no fault of mine in the damage to the goods"
I had another reason, I proved twice that the seller sent me a product of a much smaller size (102 cm instead of 120 cm breast volume), although now I always preliminarily specify the size of the thing in cm, at first I wrote to the seller for about a week every day, and then, when I filed a dispute in Ali, they agreed with me. As a result, the seller did not demand things back, and they returned the money in full.
Now it turns out that you do not want to return the goods (all of a sudden everything is in order there), but you want to get money at the same time. Do not get lost, just repeat from one letter to another that you are not to blame for the delivery of the damaged goods, but the seller is guilty, so badly packed. I had this correspondence with the seller on 3 pages, and then, when I opened a dispute, I again wrote my arguments about the absence of my fault and wrote ... "see my correspondence with the seller"
Good luck, I hope you will succeed too ..
ludmila_27.79
Lyiand other girls thanks for the advice. I wrote to the seller to reimburse me for the postage to return the item first. But the seller is not particularly sociable. He put forward a proposal for the return of goods and money and is still silent. I will wait until Aliexpress intervenes in the dispute. Can you add a video proof of damage to the machine in the dispute?
Rita
ludmila_27.79, be sure to add photos with packaging and damage.
Lyi
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I will wait until Aliexpress intervenes in the dispute. Can you add a video proof of damage to the machine in the dispute?
Ali will intervene only when you click on the "open dispute" sign. Until then, continue to correspond with the seller. Product photos must be MANDATORY... And more than one, it is advisable to photograph and attach pictures of both the product itself and the packaging of the product so that it can be seen that with such packaging, damage to the product will be necessary. Do not give up, repeat that you want to send him the goods, but such an amount is needed ... you can find out the approximate amount in the mail, or calculate it yourself. The seller will write his own, and you calmly repeat your arguments.If he is silent for a day, send him another letter (repeat the previous one). You can at least ... twenty times repeat your arguments with the same text. And then click on "open dispute" with Ali. I hope your warranty period has not expired yet. Try to keep within it with the correspondence, and Ali must submit a dispute at least 3-5 days before the end of the guarantee, here, too, be sure to attach a photo.
Good luck!
Caprice
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Lyiand other girls thanks for the advice. I wrote to the seller to reimburse me for the postage to return the item first. But the seller is not particularly sociable. He put forward a proposal for the return of goods and money and is still silent. I will wait until Aliexpress intervenes in the dispute. Can you add a video proof of damage to the machine in the dispute?
I don't know if it is possible to insert a video - please insert it. Photos can be inserted exactly. Be sure to insert a photo of all breakdowns. Also insert screenshots of correspondence with the prod. But, do not tighten too much. The dispute will only be valid for a few days after receipt. Later, they may say that you misused it and broke it.
Lyi
Quote: Caprice
But, do not tighten too much. The dispute will only be valid for a few days after receipt.
Start off you need to correspond with the seller immediately after receiving the goods, and continue a dispute with the seller (if necessary) can be up to 3-5 days before the end of the warranty period, when you already need to open a dispute with Aliexpress.
Ali considers the dispute within 3-5 days. So you need Ali to see through your correspondence with the seller that you offered the seller compromise options for resolving the dispute.
Now I have counted my disputes with Ali, I had 18, all were won in my favor.

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