Grypana
Quote: nila


Convinced in the direction of Zelmer.
And what is the difference between 481.6 and 481.64 ???

Nelya, I already ordered Zelmer too! ZELMER 481.6 EXPRESSIVE (this model has more attachments and a blender than 481.64 - this one only has Stainless steel beaters and kneaders Spatula Nozzle for making puree) Mine costs 374 UAH Will be brought next week. And then I had to take my mother's mixer for "bye".

I chose something for a long time, chose and stopped at this. Compared, compared, read reviews. I especially liked that it copes with not very liquid dough. Also nuna. Everything suited me.
nila
I asked for advice ... but did it my way! I bought this one:
Mixer

Manufacturer MPM Product

Mixer type stationary
Turbo Mode Yes
Pulse Mode Yes
Country of origin Poland

Power: 300 W
Two whisks for beating eggs and creams / Two attachments for stirring heavy dough
Additional attachment - hand blender
5 speed modes
Optional TURBO function maximizes speed
Convenient stand
Removable 2.5L rotating bowl
Attachment eject button
Auto lock function
Modern ergonomic design

I don’t know if I did the right thing ... but I already bought it and tried it on a biscuit. 6 eggs and knocked down a glass of sugar in 8 minutes. Speckled in Dex.
Airy, porous, cake height 7.5cm. I am pleased with the result.
The decisive factor in the purchase was the opinion of the daughter. I would have gone myself, I don't know where I stopped. Zelmer 481 was standing there and I naturally grabbed hold of him. But...
1. included both at once. the speed of the corollas was noticeably inferior to that of Zelmer, although he is more powerful.
2. when turned on from Zelmer, the smell immediately went ... I understand that the lubricant ... but the MRM and at home for 10 minutes without shutdown worked no smell, not the slightest heating.
3. The MPM fits comfortably and is removed from the bed by pressing a button.
4. The MPM mixer itself is much heavier and more comfortable in the hand. the bed looks sturdier.
5. MRM beaters are completely metal, without plastic inserts. the wire is not thin and they are longer and heavier than the Zelmerovskys.
6. I didn't understand with the bowl ... when I compared both MPM bowls, the bowl looks bigger. At home, in the net, I read that its volume is 2.5 liters ... I went to measure ... I poured the 7th floor. liter cans to the top ... I don't understand anything. This was also a decisive factor for me.
These are the comparisons ... I don't know if I did the right thing when I bought the MPM. After all, I had not heard anything about him before. The salesman and his daughter knocked me off the intended path.

Grypana
May he work for 100 years, Nelya. What you liked is yours! I am happy with the result, the comparison was excellent! You should never think about the bad. Some Chinese noname worked for me for 19 years and excellent! It didn’t smell, it didn’t burn, everything was for joy and help. Boom to know now that there is also an MRM with a purchase
Irina Dolars
Once I bought it, congratulations! Let it work as long as possible! Mixer
Now you can buy 400 watts. You can use it for longer without interruption.
Mona1
Nelya, and in the store, when you looked, there was no Dex 960 by chance, you seemed to be looking at it too. I've also been reading Temka for the third day, I also liked Dex. The money is funny, and even taking into account the two years of exchange guarantee and on the previous page the review is so super positive. Haven't seen him alive?
LLika
Quote: nila

1. included both at once. the speed of the corollas was noticeably inferior to that of Zelmer, although he is more powerful.

That is why the corollas spin slower, because the mixers are more powerful. There is a direct relationship, the more powerful - the slower, but longer and steeper dough can be kneaded.

Nelya, let the mixer serve for a long time, otherwise he cut off the oxygen for you, did not allow you to calmly make other purchases on pasta and berner
nila
Mona, I saw, looked and turned on the Dex mixer ... what to say ... I don't know ...passed by, but I was still tuned in to Selmer and purposefully looking for him. The appearance is not bad, the corollas spin quickly, the bowl is small ... that's all I can say
I was so clever that I wanted to appear in front of the seller ... I began to argue that the 2-year exchange guarantee!
And he told me, and in 2 years what will you do? throw it away ...
LLika, Thank you ! as you just said ... direct oxygen to me was blocked by this mixer. that's why I quickly decided and I don't regret it yet.
The turn has not yet reached the tough dough, and my bread maker is engaged in such a dough.
Maybe I'll try the Sedna cupcake in the evening, but the Sedna cake is already getting cold.
Although I forgot ... yesterday Ravani baked, and there is not a rare dough.
How confusing, pleasantly surprised (y) even the taste of the dough after baking is different. But after all, I had nothing to compare with ... my whole life was knocked down by the Ros mixer. there was another one, I don't even remember the name ... I quickly went into the trash ...
Keti
Come on. Why don't we throw away the DEKH multicooker in 2 years? And if the mixer costs 200 UAH. 2 years will work, that's just fine.
I bought myself a Zelmer (there was no DEH with a bowl then). I chose a very functional one, so that everything was there. What can I say? I have it for a little over a year. Everything was great at first. Then the plastic cracked on the whisk stem, which is inserted into the mixer. Now, as I insert it, I'm afraid that it doesn't split at all. The mixer itself quickly began to warm up and hum. Although she did not load it much and often did not use it. I do not turn it on for a long time, otherwise the howl is on the whole district.
Something they were wise there and did not smoke. Yes, I have a 481.63 model (it is rare). In this thread, I posted photos and information comparing all Zelmer's models. Need to search.
And now I think if there would have been a DEKH at that moment, I would have bought it. Costs 3 times cheaper than Zelmer. And how many reviews I read on DEH - I try
the firm does not disappoint buyers.

Quote: Keti

As promised, I show the scanned pages of the Zelmer mixer, the difference between the models and what to do in which device.
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olesya26
Quote: Mona1

Nelya, and in the store, when you looked, there was no Dex 960 by chance, you seemed to be looking at it too. I've also been reading Temka for the third day, I also liked Dex. The money is funny, and even taking into account the two years of exchange guarantee and on the previous page the review is so super positive. Haven't seen him alive?
Tanya I bought deh 960 and my photos, I'm happy, after my Khortitsa - super. Whips everything himself from start to finish. You can watch the video on Deh Lain, I bought there. His bowl is 3.5 liters
Mona1
Quote: olesya26

Tanya I bought deh 960 and my photos, I'm happy, after my Khortitsa - super. Whips everything himself from start to finish. You can watch the video on Deh Lain, I bought there. His bowl is 3.5 liters
Olesya, I already ordered myself, inspired by your review and photo, and ordered my mother Dex 900, it's like 960, but only manual (it finally can be 167 grams in this store). I take it for a gift and I don't know, maybe she can also take the 960th, but she will have nowhere to put it in the kitchen. And she doesn't bake cakes every day, so sometimes she can beat a couple of eggs. And shove the handheld legger into some cupboard.
And I also wanted to ask, here you whipped the squirrels, then in how many minutes it happened, as in the picture, and at what speed. And not very hot? And how is it in terms of volume? Here, she showered me with questions.
nila
Quote: nila

I was so clever that I wanted to appear in front of the seller ... I began to argue that the 2-year exchange guarantee!
And he told me, and in 2 years what will you do? throw it away ...
Quote: Keti

Come on. And why don't we throw away the DEKH multicooker in 2 years? And if the mixer costs 200 UAH. 2 years will work, that's just fine.
That's what I started to prove to the seller ... but he looked at me as if I were a fool ... I would have argued further, but my daughter didn’t do it.

Keti, I'm confused ... here's Zelmer! although the technique is unpredictable, even with the most expensive brand, a byaka can happen ... you can't guess. Moreover, you write that you didn't load it too much ... Corollas crumbled after a year
I can't wonder what will happen to my ... one thing is good that the corollas are completely metal true socket plastic.

annnushka27
Girls, do you think Dex can handle the Wet meringue? 960th and how can manual be used?
Tanyusha
I have had Zelmer for 3 years now and has been working perfectly, I am very pleased with him, Katie may have got you a defective one.
Keti
Quote: Tanyusha

I have had Zelmer for 3 years now and has been working perfectly, I am very pleased with him, Katie may have got you a defective one.

Tanya, is she not warming up and howling?
I don't think that the defective one was caught. At first I was delighted. And when in the bowl the whisks are scrubbed on the bowl?
Vei
Girls, I want to take Philips 1571, can anyone say anything about him?
It is true without a bowl, but I have nowhere to put with a bowl ... Although)))
Tanyusha
Keti, does not get warm and does not howl, sometimes I turn it on late in the evening, it works quite quietly.
olesya26
Quote: Mona1

Olesya, I already ordered myself, inspired by your review and photo, and ordered my mother Dex 900, it's like 960, but only manual (it finally can be 167 grams in this store). I take it for a gift and I don't know, maybe she can also take the 960th, but she will have nowhere to put it in the kitchen. And she doesn't bake cakes every day, so sometimes she can beat a couple of eggs. And shove the handheld legger into some cupboard.
And I also wanted to ask, here you whipped the squirrels, then in how many minutes it happened, as in the picture, and at what speed. And not very hot? And how is it in terms of volume? Here, she showered me with questions.
Tanya, I'm probably too late with the answer, you probably already know everything yourself. The proteins themselves without sugar very quickly, and then added sugar well, 10 minutes - 15 minutes, I probably did not detect it on purpose, it does not heat up, it has a fan inside like a hair dryer, here the fan is noisy, so it is not quiet as for me, but I'm happy as a worker ...
Congratulations on your assistant, let it only please
And I was encouraged to buy a mixer, all those who wrote reviews on the Deh blender, I read them a lot and decided to order a mixer along with a blender.
I’m also looking at a hand mixer for my mother, she needs one, since she doesn’t bake cakes at all, so more for charlottes.
Mona1
Quote: olesya26

Tanya, I'm probably too late with the answer, you probably already know everything yourself.
Olesya, thanks for the answer, I'm still waiting, the guys in the store are slowly working. They said today that they will only bring it on Saturday. So I'm waiting. By the way, I still ordered my mother not manual, but the same, although she really has no room for him. I just thought that she might think that I have something better, and she is cheaper. Moreover, my son will pay for both mixers. He said that he wanted to give something to both mom and grandmother. So I threw up the idea. I hope that she will accept a gift from my grandson. So I ordered the same, there is a difference of only about 70 UAH. God is with them. But don't, take the mixer off the holder and have it hand held, and take out the rest in the trash if you don't like it. By the way, I would have left the cup. Or I'll take this part for myself. There will be like one spare. Mom with her own character. Try to please and guess what she wants. She lives with my sister. So I'm asking my sister the other day: well, which one to order from these mixers? She says: I will find out. On the trail. day he calls and says: Mom and I had a fight because she prepared food, and I don't want to eat a lot, I need to lose a little kilograms. So my mother was offended. Says: Everything, I will not cook anything. And a little sister asks her: So what kind of mixer should I order? Mom: You don't need anything, I'm not going to cook here anymore.
In general, they swear, and I have to guess. She's not always like that, so she's good, sometimes she goes crazy. Although, we are all not gifts at times.
nila
Monawhat a good boy you have! Gifts not only for mommy, but also about grandma have not forgotten! I'm impressed ...
Mom will get angry ... she will see such a present.
Well, if she doesn't like the stand, then you're only better off. I really miss having a spare cup. When whites and yolks need to be knocked down separately, you have to remove the mixer and knock down on the weight in another bowl.
And this is already strained
Grypana
I am already with a mixer too. Zelmer 481.6, with green inserts. Beautiful! Compact. I replaced the former mixers and blender in the cabinet. This is my first bowl mixer. I'm glad! The bowl rotates, the rims do not reach the bottom, do not scrape.The pancake dough gets in the way, and I wash the dishes. The beauty! Then, looking at night, I could not part with him yet - I kneaded a biscuit dough for me. My conclusion - a mixer with a bowl is very convenient! Hands at this time can do other things.
Svetylic
and my old mixer got covered - it was some kind of Chinese no-name, although I had been using it for about 10 years. While choosing between BOSCH MFQ 3560 and BOSCH MFQ 3530. But good reviews about the DEX DHM-960 Mixer beckon))) the price is pleasant
Grypana
My new Zelmer is taking the exam, he copes with the tasks quickly, efficiently, I like it. Puff pastry report -
(dough recipe - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=6093.0

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nila
Quote: Grypana

My new Zelmer is taking the exam, he copes with the tasks quickly, efficiently, I like it. Puff pastry report -
(dough recipe - https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=6093.0
Natasha, and you kneaded this dough with a mixer? After all, it is written there by hand, so as not to mix margarine into the butter ... and how do you like the result?
And then I was already going to run for a beer!
Grypana
Nelya, I mixed everything with a mixer. Nothing with your hands! I took it with a bang. Moreover, I melted half of the margarine, grated half. The dough is cool, soft! I like it. I made a lot of tongues with sesame seeds.
Vilapo
Quote: nila

Natasha, and you kneaded this dough with a mixer? After all, it is written there by hand, so as not to mix margarine into the butter ... and how do you like the result?
And then I was already going to run for a beer!
Neela, I don’t know what happened with Natasha, but this dough should be done as written by Qween in the recipe, it turns out a good puff pastry
Grypana
Puff, puff. It stood in the refrigerator for 3 hours, then baked. We have here on the forum the same recipe from. In my opinion, she did not put an accent there, what to interfere with her hands. This is Queen, focusing on hand kneading. But here, of course, a matter of taste. As for me - ideal for Napoleon.
Vilapo
Quote: Grypana

Puff, puff. It stood in the refrigerator for 3 hours, then baked. We have here on the forum the same recipe from. In my opinion, she did not put an accent there, what to interfere with her hands. This is Queen, focusing on hand kneading. But here, of course, a matter of taste. As for me - ideal for Napoleon.
Natasha, the technology for making puff pastry, whether it is correct or quick, involves kneading by hand; in production, rolling machines do it. You did it, great
Grypana
Lena, I don't mind. And I understand that it is better to knead with your hands. But with a mixer (or bread maker), the more new mixer, this task turned out. I checked how the mixer would take tight dough, in the sense, not liquid. I took it and how. In general, I am one of those owners who, if they do not knead with technique, whip something there, then they just won't do it with their hands (hands are weak, and sometimes it is very lazy and for a long time)
merilena
Girls tell me. who has dealt with such a mixer. I would like to take it for a start, in general, to a sword for kitschen Hades, but it's expensive, and I don't know if it will be needed. Advise
Vei
Quote: merilena

Girls tell me. who has dealt with such a mixer. I would like to take it for a start, in general, to a sword for kitschen Hades, but it's expensive, and I don't know if it will be needed. Advise
It looks like a gastro-aggressor, only there is a splash skirt. We ought to have at least one eye on the instruction to look at the topic of load-overload. How much flour you can go there, eggs maximum, what is the maximum operating time in different modes.

In any case, this device is designed for a fairly large volume of products. Is that exactly what you want?
Daffi
Quote: merilena

Girls tell me. who has dealt with such a mixer. I would like to take it for a start, in general, to a sword for kitschen Hades, but it's expensive, and I don't know if it will be needed. Advise
Made in China, 6 months warranty: are you worried about anything? I am alarmed by the small warranty period, the question immediately arises: why only six months, maybe the equipment is not reliable? Further - more: who will repair it in the event of a breakdown, where are the service centers located and are there any at all, what will post-warranty service and repair cost?
merilena
Vei yes you need so big
Daffithanks for the tips with the service center, this needs to be clarified.
I planned to take it for 40,000 thousand, but now there is no such money, so I think whether it is worth taking such a cheap one. even if you have to throw it away.
Daffi
Quote: merilena

Vei yes you need so big
Daffithanks for the tips with the service center, this needs to be clarified.
I planned to take it for 40,000 thousand, but now there is no such money, so I think whether it is worth taking such a cheap one. even if you have to throw it away.
Popular wisdom says "Cheap ribka is a rotten yushka". I would not take this unit. Or Kitchen Aid buy on Amazon + transformer + shipping, or, as an option, Kenwood or Bosch MUM 8 series.
Vilapo
Quote: merilena

Vei yes you need so big
Daffithanks for the tips with the service center, this needs to be clarified.
I planned to take it for 40,000 thousand, but now there is no such money, so I think whether it is worth taking such a cheap one. even if you have to throw it away.
No, it's not worth it, it's better to wait and buy what you need, or Bosch 8 series
merilena
Daffi I am a coonwood, I watch several of them
Daffi
Quote: merilena

Bosch definitely not. flimsy. versus kenwood
Bosch MUM4655 has been working for me for almost 9 years. And I advise you the professional series, that is, the eighth. I do not know what is "flimsy" in your concept, but this cannot be said for sure about Bosh. You won't throw it on the floor, will you? And for kneading dough, it is great.
Vilapo
Quote: merilena

Daffi Bosch is not a glider, the speed is small, and the kevud itself looks more convenient to me.
I chose this one, no bells and whistles, but you won't find it anywhere.
Who said that Bosch is not planetary, very planetary
Lozja
Quote: Vilapo

Who said that Bosch is not planetary, very planetary

This is for sure, there is nowhere more planetary.
sazalexter
Bosch glider, the speed is very high. Revolutions per minute: 14000. 6months warranty this device is Ftopku
Daffi
Quote: merilena

Daffi Bosch is not a glider, the speed is small, and the kevud itself looks more convenient to me.
I chose this one, no bells and whistles, but you won't find it anywhere.
There are a lot of complaints about this Kenwood. Bosch is one of the best combine harvesters on the market, especially the professional series. As you have already been told, this is a 1400-1600W stationary planetary mixer. He can beat from 1 protein, makes yeast and dumplings dough, I just keep quiet about shortbread, muffin and biscuit, because everyone knows that he does it perfectly.

merilena
Quote: Daffi


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No, for that kind of money! I'd rather add another 10 thousand and buy kitchen hades, now I need a temporary option. Thank you all for your help, I chose this one 🔗 and can even take a second-hand.
By the way, maybe somewhere they write that this is professional, but the upper part leans back instead of lowering and raising the bowl. therefore, it is not durable and not practical. I worked as a pastry chef, and I know how such a system differs from raising the bowl.
Irina F
Girls, I don't know if the planetary mixer model was discussed here 🔗
I was at the exhibition in CROCUSEXPO, I saw it, it seemed like a solid assembly. The cost of such a mixer (looked in the internet) everywhere the price is fixed - 15990 rubles. At the exhibition, the sample was given for 12)
But, I, all the same, am tuned into the ASSISTANT)
Irina F
All the same, I ordered it) -planetary mixer Stadler Form. On Monday they will deliver) I can't wait!
Masik
Hello everyone! Choosing your own mixer is not an easy job! I want it to be powerful (at least 1000 W), planetary, easy to use and durable. I found a PROFI COOK KM 1004 kitchen machine, powerful, a lot of functions and relatively inexpensive, but I did not find any reviews on it, can anyone tell me?
Masik
Quote: Irina F

All the same, I ordered it) -planetary mixer Stadler Form. On Monday they will deliver) I can't wait!
Well, how did you try the mixer? Share your impressions!
Irina F
Marina, I got a mixer! I took it in the evening and opened it already when the children were asleep (practically at night). I haven't tried it yet, I didn't have time. Today I will knead the bread, so I'll check it).
The first visual impression is powerful, solid, solid.It has 12 speeds, a countdown and countdown timer, an electronic display, and the weight is impressive - almost 12kg
How to test-write)
LudMila
Irina, congratulations on such a solid assistant!
I also look at it (by the way, on the already beloved Ozone the price for this model is 11,953 rubles).
Write everything, everything, in detail ... Please!))
Irina F
Girls! This is me upset about the mixer. I'll tell you if my review can be useful to someone. Well, in general, today I decided to test the beginner with bread dough. And he (so healthy and powerful), from the very first seconds, began to creak, crunch and, as it were, hang, well, he cannot cope with the bread dough. Maybe I ask a lot from him, and he cannot knead such a dough, but in that case, why is he even needed then! With biscuits, creams, cream and proteins, and a regular mixer will cope!
I tried it at idle, it goes fine (it means not marriage), but LOUD !!!! I decided to beat the whites. I beat it in 6 minutes, but it seems to me that I beat my old Boshik too no longer
In general, friends, draw conclusions.
Irina F
Quote: Kamusik

And what kind of dough? Rye?
No, wheat is common for loaves.
Kamusik
Yes, yes, I also came to write about it! I would return. The price is decent, but he did not behave himself at all!

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