Vilapo
Quote: Daffi

You have puzzled me. It is not the whisk that makes this sound. It's something inside the mixer that makes this hole-hole-hole. Moreover, the sound disappears completely if you hold the mixer upside down or vertically. If these were corollas, the sound would not disappear.

Well, not corollas, but there shouldn't be such a sound, so you need to hand over the mixer, there is some kind of defect, why guess ...
Daffi
This sound is present even if no beaters are placed in the mixer. In the video, the sound turned out to be a little louder than in reality, but still it is there and is heard clearly. I have to go and take it, wish me luck

When giving up, talk about the sound or motivate that you didn't like the mixer?
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

This sound is present even if no beaters are placed in the mixer. In the video, the sound turned out to be a little louder than in reality, but still it is there and is heard clearly. I have to go and take it, wish me luck

When giving up, talk about the sound or motivate that you didn't like the mixer?
Why cheat? Speak as is.
Daffi
Quote: Lozja

Why cheat? Speak as is.
If I say that there is an extraneous sound, I may be sent to a service center. By law, everything that is of inadequate quality can only be provided through the service. But the proper quality can be exchanged in the store or demand a refund.
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

If I say that there is an extraneous sound, I may be sent to a service center. According to the law, everything that is of inadequate quality is only available through the service. But the proper quality can be exchanged in the store or demand a refund.

Our laws are generally strange. Just imagine for a moment that you are not a buyer, but a seller, no, no, not a manager, but sell your goods, even a store director. They bring you a yuzan product - you don't like it, you have to change it according to the Law. Now again, imagine that you are a customer, come to that store and they offer you a used one, like new, but where can they go? They cannot work negatively. Will you buy this mixer? Do not take it personally, it just sore. I am simply amazed at the legislation by which we live.
Again, according to the Law, the guarantee must be filled out, otherwise it is invalid. They sold the goods to the buyer, filled out their own guarantee, and the buyer brought the goods back a week later - I don't like it. And what should the seller do with this completed coupon? How to sell the product further? This is such insanity.

Daffi, nothing personal, do not be offended, it just ached.
Daffi
I understand everything and sympathize very much, but you can see that I got a really strange mixer. I have no complaints about his work, but this sound worries me. I will call and consult with the consumer protection society.
My own guarantee until have not been filled in, so the seller will not be harmed when returning.
julifera
Daffi - it so happened that my friends also buy the same mixer, only a model with a chopper.
Tonight they will already be brought.
I asked to make a video - try all the speeds in the horizontal position and in the vertical one.
They promised to do, we will compare.
Even if, for some reason, they fail to make a video, I asked you to pay attention to this painful sound from your video.
By the way, whose assembly does your Boshik have?
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The service center is a fuck-up, I was dragged about the most necessary thing for 3 months, all this time I called every week and they told me all sorts of excuses, then it is in Kiev, then the service worker is not in place, then some other nonsense.
As a result, they said they would replace it with a new one, they waited for a new one again for 2 months and said that there was no such model available, that there would be a refund, but not an easy one!
They forced, it was FORCED to order something else on its cost! In the end, even this turnover was welcome.

So my opinion is that it is better to rent and buy in another store than such a hassle.

For that kind of money, I want to have all the same good quality goods, without extraneous rumbles, unrepaired, it's still Bosch.
Daffi
Hope your friends get lucky and get a quiet mixer tonight. In terms of assembly, it seems that all Bosch mixers (and mine is no exception) are assembled in Slovenia.
Irina Dolars
I have such a mixer. The assembly in Slovenia is also indicated. I bought it in the winter.
Immediately upon purchase, I asked to check. I listened to the sound of the engine. Nice buzzing. (mmm)
Now I turned on again to listen and compare. The sound of the engine running is heard. And the additional one is barely audible. Apparently the noise of working gears driving the corollas. You have them louder.
Daffi
Quote: Irina Dolars

I have such a mixer. The assembly in Slovenia is also indicated. I bought it in the winter.
Immediately upon purchase, I asked to check. I listened to the sound of the engine. Nice buzzing. (mmm)
Now I turned on again to listen and compare. The sound of the engine running is heard. And the additional one is barely audible. Apparently the noise of working gears driving the corollas. You have them louder.
I have these gears much louder, I have already listened to all the videos, no one has such a thing.
Daffi
I bought a Bosch 3530 mixer again. Hope this will work as expected. I bought it with adventures, added this online store to my personal Black List.
In our "first capital" there is at least one decent online store that would not try to deceive the buyer by any means? (it was a rhetorical question).
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

I bought a Bosch 3530 mixer again. Hope this will work as expected. I bought it with adventures, added this online store to my personal Black List.
In our "first capital" there is at least one decent online store that would not try to deceive the buyer by any means? (it was a rhetorical question).

How did they try to deceive? With the purchase of you! Let this one run smoothly!
Daffi
Quote: Lozja

How did they try to deceive? With the purchase of you! Let this one run smoothly!
Thank you for your kind wishes. Tried to cheat in this way https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...89830.0, although I ordered it in another online store. That is, they have the same scheme.

When I arrived for the mixer, I was politely informed that at the price indicated on the website, the mixer was being sold with a 1 month warranty. They immediately offered a mixer with an official guarantee, but more expensive by 60 UAH. I was outraged. As a result, I took the mixer from the office. a guarantee at the price indicated on the website.
Now I don’t know whether to rejoice or look for the catch. The mixer is quiet, the box was sealed with a transparent sticker, it was cut in front of me. Everything seems to be OK, but the soul is now out of place. And I don't feel the joy of the long-awaited purchase
Lozja
Quote: Daffi

Thank you for your kind wishes. Tried to cheat in this way https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...89830.0, although I ordered it in another online store. That is, they have the same scheme.

When I arrived for the mixer, I was politely informed that at the price indicated on the website, the mixer was being sold with a 1 month warranty. They immediately offered a mixer with an official guarantee, but more expensive by 60 UAH. I was outraged. As a result, I took the mixer from the office. a guarantee at the price indicated on the website.
Now I don’t know whether to be happy or look for the catch. The mixer is quiet, the box was sealed with a transparent sticker, it was cut in front of me. Everything seems to be OK, but the soul is now out of place. And I don't feel the joy of the long-awaited purchase

Everything will be fine. They just realized that they were attacking the wrong one, and they had to give in in order not to have troubles later in the form of anti-advertising on the Internet. Well, I think so to myself, I don't know for sure.
Vilapo
Quote: Daffi

I bought a Bosch 3530 mixer again. Hope this will work as expected. I bought it with adventures, added this online store to my personal Black List.
In our "first capital" there is at least one decent online store that would not try to deceive the buyer by any means? (it was a rhetorical question).

I really like the Rosette, it's a pleasure to deal with them. Sometimes a little expensive compared to other stores, but this is compensated by the fact that they do not try to breed you
Daffi
Quote: Lozja

Everything will be fine. They just realized that they were attacking the wrong one, and they had to give in in order not to have troubles later in the form of anti-advertising on the Internet. Well, I think so to myself, I don't know for sure.
There are already many negative reviews about this store. I even came across a description of the scheme that was applied to me. In the black list of the Kharkiv forum, more than 8 topics have been created for this store.
Give a tip to decent online stores in Kharkov, my electric kettle will soon be closed, now I don't even know where to buy.
Daffi
Quote: Vilapo


I really like the Rosette, it's a pleasure to deal with them. Sometimes a little expensive compared to other stores, but this is compensated by the fact that they do not try to breed you
This year, the tax office has already pressed twice on Rozetka. In addition, this is not a single online store, but a mass of small private entrepreneurs trading under a well-promoted brand name.
Vilapo
Quote: Daffi

This year, the tax office has already pressed twice on Rozetka. In addition, this is not a single online store, but a mass of small private entrepreneurs trading under a well-promoted brand name.

I do not know how somewhere, we have a large store with branches in many cities of Ukraine, the tax authorities really pressed on them, I just at that time my email. I bought an oven from them, the forwarder told ...
julifera
In general, in my entire shopping history, only this summer came across such a deception.
But this deception helped me save a lot of money.

I have not complained about the Technotochka store before, I bought a Philips cube from them at the cheapest price, the service is excellent.
Well, PMM thought Siemens to take, not to take, monitored the price from them, and then oops - the price was 6600, but it became 5700 UAH, I’m running to order, the whole class, but they call me and tell me:
- "They say this is the price of a car without a guarantee at all (!?!?!?!) But we can contact another supplier and make you with a guarantee and it will cost 6600 again, we will bring it in a week."
That's not all, the next day, when I'm on vacation and everything is in the midst of repairs, the heat is 60C on the asphalt, they offer me to bring them an advance payment, because they don't bring such expensive things without prepayment !!! ???
I spat and ordered my beloved Beko - in another store, 2 times cheaper, no worse than Siemens, and they brought it the next day !!!
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No matter what, I still want to congratulate you Daffi with a mixer, let it serve faithfully !!!

Is Photomag not suitable for you? There is a branch in Kharkov.
We bought a lot of things there, including my guys bought this mixer there, no problem.
I even bought a refrigerator from them.
Daffi
Quote: Vilapo


I do not know how somewhere, we have a large store with branches in many cities of Ukraine, the tax authorities really pressed on them, I just at that time my email. I bought an oven from them, the forwarder told ...
This is not a big store with branches, but exactly what I wrote. Many private entrepreneurs trade under the brand name of the Rozetka online store. This is such a scheme of work. I didn’t know either, but when was the first case, I read about these "nice" details on Habré. And the scheme of work there was also in the form of a picture. So that...

Daffi
Quote: julifera

In general, in my entire shopping history, only this summer came across such a deception.
But this deception helped me save a lot of money.

I have not complained about the Technotochka store before, I bought a Philips cube from them at the cheapest price, the service is excellent.
Well, PMM thought Siemens to take, not to take, monitored the price from them, and then oops - the price was 6600, but it became 5700 UAH, I’m running to order, the whole class, but they call me and tell me:
- "They say this is the price of a car without a guarantee at all (!?!?!?!) But we can contact another supplier and make you with a guarantee and it will cost 6600 again, we will bring it in a week."
That's not all, the next day, when I'm on vacation and everything is in the midst of repairs, the heat is 60C on the asphalt, they offer me to bring them an advance payment, because they don't bring such expensive things without prepayment !!! ???
I spat and ordered my beloved Beko - in another store, 2 times cheaper, no worse than Siemens, and they brought it the next day !!!
________
No matter what, I still want to congratulate you Daffi with a mixer, let it serve faithfully !!!

Is Photomag not suitable for you? There is a branch in Kharkov.
We bought a lot of things there, including my guys bought this mixer there, no problem.
I even bought a refrigerator from them.
Class !!! It was in Technotochka that I bought a mixer today. You had everything on the phone, I had to wrestle with them live. The two managers conferred in a separate room and decided to sell me a mixer with a guarantee, but cheaper. In addition to me, there were still customers in the store at that time, and I did not stand in silence. I was not hysterical, but I was quite clearly indignant that they were trying to rip off extra money from me.

It's time to create a topic on the forum in which residents of Ukraine will be able to exchange negative shopping experience in online stores. It would be nice to have a blacklist of online stores for each city and nationwide.

It is expensive in Fotomag, besides it is very far away, I need to go to it by two means of transport.
Vilapo
Quote: Daffi

This is not a big store with branches, but exactly what I wrote. Many private entrepreneurs trade under the brand name of the Rozetka online store. This is such a scheme of work. I didn’t know either, but when was the first case, I read about these "nice" details on Habré. And the scheme of work there was also in the form of a picture. So that...

Daffi, I won't even argue. Several times I picked up my goods by self, the store is large, everyone works well, they give the goods already checked ...
merilena
Girls tell me. this mixer is just super (Kitchen Aid), when I studied (practiced) I worked with it, the boss of my house had one, but it's worth it ... I want it to shake and that's all, but the fact is that now it is 30,000 it’s worth it ... It’s a glider, I plan to take a lot of orders, now it’s gone, it’s difficult to work with an ordinary mixer, especially whipping a biscuit ... So the question is, is it worth spending that kind of money on it, there are similar analogues, for example, Bork, it is 23,000 rubles ... but I am 100% sure of that, and the rest are not ... develop doubts ... P.S. I'm in mourning...
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AlisaS
Quote: julifera

The service center is a fuck-up, the most necessary thing was dragged around for 3 months, all this time I called every week and they told me all sorts of excuses, then it is in Kiev, then the service worker is not in place, then some other nonsense.
In the end, they said they would replace it with a new one, they waited for a new one again for 2 months and said that there was no such model available, that there would be a refund, but not an easy one!
They forced, it was FORCED to order something else on its cost! In the end, even this turnover was welcome.
Was it not by chance in Fotomag?
My husband and I observed the same picture in their service center, they changed the computer memory bar for one guy, which turned out to be inoperative. The guy was already in such despair ... for a couple of months he was fed with promises ... they find out the reason ... change ... haven't arrived from the supplier yet ... etc.
All in all, an unpleasant store.
Irina Dolars
I heard that this is arbitrariness. According to consumer rights law, sellers are not allowed to impose their terms.
And you shouldn't follow their lead
Buy the Code and carry it with you in such cases.
AJlEHA
Quote: julifera

The service center is a fuck-up, the most necessary thing was dragged around for 3 months, all this time I called every week and they told me all sorts of excuses, then it is in Kiev, then the service worker is not in place, then some other nonsense.
In the end, they said they would replace it with a new one, they waited for a new one again for 2 months and said that there was no such model available, that there would be a refund, but not an easy one!
They forced, it was FORCED to order something else on its cost!
They have no right to.
The buyer, at his sole discretion, can exchange for another product or the same model (subject to its availability), or demand a refund.
julifera
Quote: AlisaS

Was it not by chance in Fotomag?
My husband and I observed the same picture in their service center, they changed the computer memory bar for one guy, which turned out to be inoperative. The guy was already in such despair ... for a couple of months he was fed with promises ... they find out the reason ... change ... haven't arrived from the supplier yet ... etc.
All in all, an unpleasant store.

Yeah, the "glory" of the Fotomag is growing, he is the
And how many times I went to their service (on the phone, nothing will be achieved at all) so many times and observed some regular excess there.
With a scandal, a friend handed over the headphones, he has the right, within 2 weeks from the date of purchase, to return them instantly with a refund - they did not pull at the declared parameters at all. So he was fooled by the service center, and then without a scandal, well, nothing.
So tired of it, constantly gnawing everything with a fight.
Daffi
Quote: julifera

Yeah, the "glory" of the Fotomag is growing, he is the
And how many times I went to their service (on the phone, nothing will be achieved at all) so many times and observed some regular excess there.
With a scandal, a friend handed over the headphones, he has the right, within 2 weeks from the date of purchase, to return them instantly with a refund - they did not pull at the declared parameters at all. So they fooled him with the service center, and then without a scandal, well, nothing.
So tired of it, constantly gnawing everything with a fight.
On the previous page, you praised Fotomag
julifera
Quote: Daffi

On the previous page, you praised Fotomag

Remember the perspective of the conversation:
The conversation was about household appliances, in particular about a mixer and a refrigerator,
also that The photomag trades without cheating about the price!

Quote: julifera

Is Photomag not suitable for you? There is a branch in Kharkov.
We bought a lot of things there, including my guys bought this mixer there, no problem.
I even bought a refrigerator from them.

How does the Photomag service center work - it is an intermediary, they themselves do not repair anything - their SC is pulled by other service centers responsible for each group of goods.
During my visits to their SC, I managed to study the scheme of their work, and so they have huge problems with servicing goods from the "Computer equipment" category and related items!
Therefore, I will not advise anyone to buy computer things from them !!!!!

Apparently they have a more stable relationship with household appliances, I somehow did not come across complaints on this topic, so I offered you to buy from them.
I took the refrigerator from them - because at that time it was cheaper in the photomag than elsewhere - by a couple of hundred, and we were soooo tight with money.
I did not fit into the elevator, more than 2 meters, the loaders are excellent, they never swore, they were very carefully carried 7 floors to the apartment.
As for the service, the Atlanta SCs work at the level, there should be no problems.
AJlEHA
Girls and boys, I, of course, am not a hot cook, let alone a pastry chef.But nevertheless, I have the most simple hand mixer for 200 W with five speeds and I am quite happy with it so far) Mixer
I beat mostly eggs for a biscuit on a charlotte, and then with the addition of sugar I "finish off" plus flour gradually - we knead the dough completely. Since my needs are not very large, and one can say the most minimal, I like to play with this baby
Irina Dolars
AJlEHA, do not beat at the end of the batch. It is better to sift and pour in gradually, gently mixing with a spatula from the bottom up. Then the biscuit does not settle, but remains lush, saturated with oxygen.
AJlEHA
Ira, I just thought that it was better with my hands too, but because of my own laziness I mix everything with a mixer
And then I wonder why the dough turns out to be steep than on manual kneading (it turns out more liquid with handles).
It is strange that the thin dough rises more - for me these are such incomprehensible things that it's just terrible
Well, nothing, thanks for the recommendations.We will listen and learn a little)
Irina Dolars
Yes
First, beat the sugar and eggs for about 15 minutes. Then sift the flour and stir in with a spatula.
You can remove the whisks and mix them lightly.I noticed that the longer you beat the egg and sugar mixture, the larger the dough, and the thicker the biscuit.
I already had so many mixers ...
Those with low power, live less. ”Of course, with a large load
AJlEHA
Wow ... 15 minutes ... I can't stand three minutes for eggs
As soon as a fluffy strong foam is obtained, I am glad to try to pour flour there and quit this business as soon as possible)))
Yes, endurance and patience, it turns out, should accompany the preparation of the dough (not for such lazy people as me)
Then it's easier to do everything with a stationary mixer. Although ... it would seem a charlotte, what is it about this dish? Absolutely unpretentious, after all - mixed everything and goodbye - peke yourself in peace
AJlEHA
In general, the mixer should be chosen, paying attention to its design and proceeding from the methods of its use. Maybe someone will need this information

All mixers are conventionally divided into two types: manual and stationary.

Hand mixers are generally low-power (150-240 W) and are designed primarily for whipping liquids and preparing various kinds of mixtures such as creams, sauces, etc. Hand mixers can be convenient for preparing precise small portions (for example, fresh food for a baby) , allow you to use any dish, eliminating the need to scrape the prepared mixture along the sides of the bowl.
As the name implies, the hand mixer is held by hand during operation; usually such devices do not come with their own bowls.
Hand mixers are a budget option and cost less.
Stationary mixers are fixed on a special stand - holder, equipped with a container (bowl) for mixing and do not require additional participation from a person.
Mixers with a bowl are more expensive and have a more complex and bulky design, but they are more convenient to use: they free up your hands for other things, they cope better with tough dough, and you do not need to decide in which container is the best to mix and whip products.
Together with the bowl, the set always includes a stand on which both the container and the mixer itself are attached. Some models are additionally equipped with a bowl rotation function - the bowl can be rotated using a special automatic drive. This allows the food to mix more evenly.
Most stand mixers can be removed from the bowl and used manually.

Power (from 200 to 1000 W)
Power determines the speed of the device and its performance. In other words, the more powerful the device, the more types of work it can perform. However, it should be borne in mind that more powerful devices tend to be more expensive and consume more electricity.
Therefore, when choosing a mixer, again, you need to decide what tasks you intend to solve with its help.
If the device is only needed for whipping creams, preparing batter (for example, pancake) and mixing "light" products, then an inexpensive 180-250 W model will be enough.
If you plan to use a mixer for kneading a denser dough, you will need a "stronger" device with a power of 270 watts or more. In low-power models, the rims are made of metal and resemble a wire frame, they may not cope with the "heavy" dough. The beaters on powerful mixers have wider and more durable blades.

Number of speeds (from 2 to 16)
Usually the mixer has several speeds (usually from three to six, but there are more).
The speed switch allows you to select the optimal mode for each type of product.
Many manufacturers on their devices near the speed selector place small pictographs showing what kind of work this or that mode is suitable for.

Operating modes (pulse and turbo mode).
Turbo mode - the possibility of a short-term increase in the speed of the mixer.
This function allows you to significantly increase the rotation speed of the attachments by pressing a button.
Turbo mode is turned on at the end of cooking for a speedy and high-quality completion of work.It can be used only for a few seconds, otherwise there is a risk of overheating of the motor.
Turbo mode allows you to quickly puree especially soft and delicate products, break up lumps in the dough.
Pulse mode... In pulse mode, the mixer motor does not work constantly, but with short pauses. This allows you to increase efficiency and avoid unnecessary stress on the motor when processing particularly hard products such as frozen fruits or ice.

It is also worth paying attention to the body material and the bowl material.
Body material
Models made of plastic are more common - an inexpensive, lightweight and practical material. Models with stainless steel inserts are less common. Steel gives the device a more expensive and solid appearance.
Bowl material in stationary mixers it is made of plastic, stainless steel and glass.
Plastic is an inexpensive and lightweight material, but it has a drawback - it is prone to deformation.
Stainless steel bowls are a little less common than plastic. Steel is more expensive, but stronger.
Capacities from glass are considered more environmentally friendly.

Bowl volume (from 0.8 to 6.9 l)
The larger the volume, the more ingredients can be processed in one work cycle.
All bowls are designed in such a way that even in a large container (up to 4 liters) you can mix food in small portions. When choosing a mixer, it should be borne in mind that the volume of the bowl, in which the products can mix well, without splashing throughout the kitchen, will be less by 0.2-0.5 liters of the total volume.

Nozzles (from 1 to 5).
Hand blenders may include corollas for whipping liquid products and hooks.
Whisk attachment allows you to quickly and efficiently whip cream, eggs, as well as creams and batter (if there are no special attachments for them). Most modern mixers are equipped with at least one such whisk. (Photo for example) Mixer
Hooks for kneading dough are paired nozzles made of steel in the form of a spiral, designed for preparing thick and tough dough. (Photo for example)Mixer
Universal shredder in the set is intended for cooking pâté minced meat, chopping nuts, herbs, cheese, berries and other products in small quantities. Mixer
Typically, the shredder is a container with a lid, at the bottom of which an impeller knife is fixed.
Puree nozzle made of plastic intended for the preparation of homogeneous thick dishes. With this nozzle, you can make mashed potatoes, mousses, creams, etc. Mixer
The nozzle is a round flat disc with guides.
Blender attachment - submersible, designed for the preparation of purees, baby food and sauces.
The attachment is a steel or plastic rod (leg) about 15 cm long with a two-bladed knife at the end.Mixer To prevent the food being prepared from splashing, the knives are protected by a special cap in the form of a domed non-removable cover that covers the knife.
Also, some stationary models are equipped with a stationary blender bowl.Mixer but hand blenders are no exception Mixer

Some models have a special compartment or holder for storage of accessoriesincluded in the kit.
This device can be designed for all attachments or only for some of them, in addition, it can be built-in or removable.Mixer
Almost every model has button for detaching attachments, which is the ability to automatically detach the attachments after the end of the mixer operation, which greatly simplifies the process of changing attachments or removing them.

Soft rubber grip
mixer makes working with the device more comfortable, preventing the handle from sliding into the palm of your hand.
Stationary mixers can be completed with protective cover for the bowlto prevent food splashing. Typically, such a lid has an additional opening that allows you to add ingredients directly during mixing.

Cord winder
The presence of a special compartment on the body of the device for storing the power cord is useful if you rarely use a mixer, and the device lies in a box or in a cabinet for a long time, waiting in the wings. When winding the cord in any order, it can break at the folds. The cord winding device minimizes the risk of such breakage.

Power cord length (from 1.0 to 1.7 m)
It is desirable that the length of the mixer cord is at least 1 m. Too short a cord will complicate the operation of the device and reduce its safety level.

Weight (0.67 to 7.9 kg)
Obviously, the lighter the hand mixer, the less hand fatigue when using it. If you choose a device from the stationary category, this parameter is not so important. If you are planning to purchase a hand mixer, you should pay attention to its weight.
Ilona
Girls, we need a powerful mixer for prof. use. Which brand to give preference, docha strongly recommends taking Kitchen Aid, because at her work they test and sell them, of course, she only knows about Kitchen Aid. Which one would you prefer?
Vilapo
Quote: ilonnna

Girls, we need a powerful mixer for prof. use. Which brand to give preference, docha strongly recommends taking Kitchen Aid, because at her work they test and sell them, of course, she only knows about Kitchen Aid. Which one would you prefer?
Ilona, ​​if there is an opportunity to take it at cost, why not buy it, the mixer is excellent. We have it 745 euros
Ilona
Quote: Vilapo

Ilona, ​​if there is an opportunity to take it at cost, why not buy it, the mixer is excellent. We have it 745 euros
Thank you, is it better, or is this really the ultimate dream today? It's just that if you take an expensive thing, then with a perspective.
Lady with @
Quote: ilonnna

Girls, we need a powerful mixer for prof. use. Which brand to give preference, docha strongly recommends taking Kitchen Aid, because at her work they test and sell them, of course, she only knows about Kitchen Aid. Which one would you prefer?
Good unit !!!!!!!!!! And how much does it cost them?
Ilona
Quote: Lady with @

Good unit !!!!!!!!!! And how much does it cost them?
Well, they seem to be promising to sell one for 18, so to speak, a discount for petty labor on a business trip, and the sample was in operation for 3 hours at the exhibition.
Margit
Girls, why aren't you considering using a Kenwood combine as a mixer?
I have Kenwood KMM760, power 1200, I mainly use it as a mixer and kneader, whips proteins into a strong foam in 2 minutes. The other day I was in the Metro, there is my combine for 17 tons. with additional attachments - meat grinder and centrifugal juicer.
merilena
Quote: Margit

Girls, why aren't you considering using a Kenwood combine as a mixer?
I have Kenwood KMM760, power 1200, I mainly use it as a mixer and kneader, whips proteins into a strong foam in 2 minutes. The other day I was in the Metro, there is my combine for 17 tons. with additional attachments - meat grinder and centrifugal juicer.
Kenwood is not a professional mixer, Kitchen aid is designed for frequent use, the wear resistance of the parts will make itself felt.
izumka
Girls, and I have my Zelmer 481.67 covered after 8 minutes. whipping wet meringue!
It just began to hum, and the whisks stopped. I thought - overheated, cool down and everything will be fine. But even after cooling down, I began to scroll the corollas with great effort. And the guarantee ended a month ago. I gave it to my husband for disassembly! I liked him so much! I only made the dough for rye bread for them, the bread maker could not cope. And he easily whipped everything else, but he stumbled on a wet meringue ...
Lozja
Quote: Kamusik

Oksanka, so you want to say that he is beeeee? I also have one, and he is also a little over a year old ...

Huh on you, I didn’t say that he was - beeeee, did you watch movies at all? The point is not specifically in this mixer, but in the general approach to production, and in the economy, of course.
I just when I read / hear that just now the warranty has ended and something has broken, I immediately remember about the "light bulb effect". Watch everyone!
Lozja
Quote: Kamusik

So I also meant it ... that HE is also from this series.

Yes, everything is from this series now, it's just unrealistic - to do it with precision on all household items and on all units of technology. Something, contrary to the efforts of the masters, will last forever, but something, as he expected, will break in a year or two. Lottery, Christmas trees.
Here is my Dax 50 broke down exactly a couple of months before the end of the warranty. Not counted.
izumka
Quote: Lozja

Did you watch a movie about the light bulb effect?
I've already heard about this aging effect, but now I've looked. I understand the manufacturers in my mind, but when it concerns you personally, it's a shame. I understand when the design, functionality changes and the person decides for himself - to live with a "unfashionable" TV, like ours, or to buy a large flat one on the wall or change a mobile phone or not - this is one thing, but when they plan the life of a good thing and it is exactly according to plan fails, it is very insulting. But, such is ce la vie!
Lozja
Quote: izumka

I've already heard about this aging effect, but now I've looked. I understand the manufacturers in my mind, but when it concerns you personally, it's a shame. I understand when the design, functionality changes and a person decides for himself - to live with a "unfashionable" TV, like ours, or to buy a large flat one on the wall or change a mobile phone or not - this is one thing, but when they plan the service life of a good thing and it is exactly according to plan fails, it is very insulting. But, such is ce la vie!

That is insulting - not the right word. I already blinked at changing mixers, they began to make obscene ones in general.
Ilona
Quote: Lozja

That is insulting - not the right word. I already blinked at changing mixers, they began to make obscene ones in general.
Oh yeah! Displaced is something! Though the topic is a separate creek. Already Ibolgarian and German and and and! And one fig - after a month it starts to shitty switch the shower to the tap and back, and the water is always at least a little, but flows from the lungs of the shower.
Lozja
Quote: ilonnna

Oh yeah! Displaced is something! Though the topic is a separate creek. Already Ibolgarian and German and and and! And one fig - after a month starts to shitty switch the shower to the tap and back, and the water is always at least a little, but flows from the lungs of the shower.

I have another problem. I thought it was because the pipes were crooked. Yeah, already the apartment is different, but the trouble is the same - the water for the shower is very difficult to regulate. It's just some kind of kapets - it's cold, you turn the tap 1 mm - it's almost boiling water. It's very hard to make an average. In my memory, this is about the 5th mixer, if you count both apartments.
Natalia K.
Likewise, I thought that only me with a mixer in the shower. It is very difficult to adjust the shower mixer so that the water is normal.

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