Kneading machines

probably good, I read reviews about him when I chose mine

Here in the thread on our forum:
Kneading dough in Ankarsrum Original
Scarecrow was just discussing it, you can read it or contact her directly.

Need help from the audience. I got here such a Dough mixer food processor 1400W DMS KMP-1400WR Germany. I do not know if this was discussed in the topic or not. But who will have what opinion? A worthwhile thing or what?

Watch the video review at the link below:


Product Features "Kitchen Machine":

Brand: DMS
Model: KMS-1400S
Condition: New
Power: 1400 W
Capacity: 5 liter plastic bowl
Speeds: 6 Speeds + Pulse Function
Multifunctional double hook attachments for double mixing
Removable protective cover
Easy to use and easy to clean
Has suction feet for better fixation of the kitchen machine on the surface

With such a kitchen machine, it is easier and faster to prepare the perfect dough. Even heavy, thick dough mixes well in no time. Thanks to the 5L bowl made of environmentally friendly plastic, you can easily bake a cake for your family and your guests.

Nelya, I won't say anything about the dough mixer itself, but I wouldn't take it with a plastic bowl!

There is a similar one, but with a metal bowl - First-2

There is a similar one, but with a metal bowl - First-2

but its declared power is much less. And the plastic bowl will be scratched, of course, over time, but it won't rub off!

Girls, I wanted to run to you with my joy, and bastards! But now I am sitting in tears, and I do not know what to do! Already shared her grief in the Gazebo. Now I came to the topic ... can someone tell me something useful., Although what is there to say, the vidgo dough mixer is not working.
Stories ...
For a long time I chose a kneader for myself, I didn't climb out of the sites for almost 2 weeks, I reread the topics here. Of course, I did not count on the road, I will not pull the road. The choice was between Klatronic, First, Royalty Line PKM-1400 and a couple of other models that were completely unfamiliar. But since we have in stores mainly with inexpensive only First or Clathronic, as well. I didn't really want to take them. OLX has a much wider selection, but there are mainly imported from Germany illegally. Therefore, everything is without a guarantee. And now I come across an advertisement for the sale of a German Klarstein dough mixer
Power 1000w, bowl 4.5 liters, metal body, metal internals and with a reinforced engine. But the display case, there are small scratches on the case. I contacted the seller, they sent me a lot of photos, and a video of his work. Everything seems to be fine, and suits the price.
I decided to take it! And then the troubles began ... as a sign of fate or a hint not to take! I don't know ... but I really wanted to believe in the best!
Moreover, the seller put up a sale on olkh through the free shipping service. This means that I transfer money not to the seller, but to the olkh. Until I inspect the goods and confirm delivery, the seller will not receive money.
At first, money was not transferred for a long time. On this day, the OLX website, money transfer, was frozen. I suffered for half a day until I called there and they told me that the problems were being fixed. And in the evening the money went to OLX. The seller sent the goods, but when I went to get my kneader the next day, they brought me a stereo system.
In response to my bewilderment, they said that your seller sent it to you! Naturally, she refused to receive it, only then she only guessed what could happen. Apparently at the post office in Kharkov, the seller was sending several goods and the operators simply misled the stickers.The new mail brought an apology, all the money was returned to me, and the mixed goods were returned back to Kharkov. We started to make a purchase on a new one.
And today I finally received my long-awaited gift! I was happy until I turned it on ... now I sit crying
Well, tell me, what is it for me? And you can see all the same, all the previous failures were just tips so that I would not take it!
At the post office I checked it outwardly, visually. So that everything was in place, I connected 2 parts of the lid, checked that there were no cracks. I felt everything, touched it, but was afraid to turn it on. For 4 days the mixer traveled around the country, but we already have frosts and the warehouses of the NP are not heated anywhere. I didn't turn it on at home either, I just washed the bowl and nozzles and set it to heat for 2 hours.
Outwardly delight! The kneader is very heavy, the whole body and inside is metal, the nest for the bowl is metal, the attachments are also metal. After 2 hours, I decided that I could turn it on. I turn it on, it starts working and stops. I turn the toggle switch off and turn it on again. And again ... it works and stops. Works no more than 30 seconds. And so at all 6 speeds and turbo. I thought that maybe I'm doing something wrong, turn it on wrong? But it works exactly until the count is 9-10, then it stops.
I watched the video that the owner threw me on the vibe, it's the same there too. Only he changes gears all the time, and therefore I immediately
paid no attention to it.
I called them, he says that it seems to be the way it should be. He promised to ask someone tomorrow. But it is clear that this should not be so, that it works exactly until the count of 9-10, then it stops.
The owner reassures me so that I do not worry that we will resolve the issue.
And I can't ... damn it, I'm so sorry to part with him! Even looking at a small scratch on the case!
What should I do now?
I wanted a video to show you how it works, but I have never inserted a video from a vibe. I only know how to put it through YouTube.
I'll show you at least pictures of this kneader. Maybe I'll figure it out with the video now, maybe I can pull it from the vibe.


I can't read the instructions, there is not a single letter in Russian.

[nila]

nila, I really sympathize with you
very beautiful

Can I return it?

[Miranda]

I can't insert a video from YouTube. In the Tea Gazebo, Tanya Tatochka showed me how it works, the seller was filming it.
Miranda, Yes, I'm very sorry. To know that the breakdown is trifling, I would take it to the SC. Back send, it is a private seller. But we agreed to call him tomorrow. He also promised to find out from himself there.

Here is Neli's video:

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I had to subscribe from the store ourselves, although it seems to me that the goods are not checked there too. Konecheo, it's a shame, you gnaw, you rejoice. Don't worry about it, anyway it's a piece of iron



similar to smigi or megi italy

this is a private seller

An honest seller would shoot a tricky video and know about 9 seconds.
I don't understand what I was counting on.

I myself recently found myself in such a situation, but they made me better. I bought a car with a fake auctioneer and from friends, which is even more offensive. Believe people and know them and here's the result



I couldn’t do anything, the contract was signed for years of ordeal for the courts, there is no strength or health. Now is the time for something like that, all around there is deception and lies



Sorry for the woman, I understand her

[Nelya]

Nelya, I sympathize (she herself faced dishonest food, litigation so far) I would also be sorry to part with such a handsome man ... outwardly, it's super-duper. But it should work like all this type of combine, no stops (some kind of garbage with the fact that it should be like this ... gear shifting goes without stops, and without switching it should work at the same speed, I think this can happen if on a typewriter there is protection against overheating ... that is, when overheating, there is a shutdown, if this is so, then there are problems with the sensor (for him 10 seconds of work - he overheats and cuts out the motor ... well, somehow ... the motor itself for such a short the gap cannot not only overheat, but even slightly heat up ... it turns out that the marriage

[lyuba-s]

I had to subscribe from the store ourselves, although it seems to me that the goods are not checked there either

lyuba-s,
Lyuba, the kneader was taken off hand. : (In our stores, even on the Internet, there is no such brand at all. With affordable only Clathronic and First
Checked on the video they sent me ... this one. But who would have thought that he was stopping. I have never dealt with kneaders before. And the owners can be seen too. When I asked her, the seller's wife, if there is planetary rotation, she asked me again - what is it? And she could not answer other questions either.
And I could not check at the post office because of the frost. The kneader, through the fault of the post office, traveled around the country for 5 days.
Miranda, not honest ... but private ... unfortunately ... let's see what he tells me today
Svetlana777,
Sveta, I did not sleep here at night, all sorts of thoughts climbed into my head. And I also thought this about the sensor. Yes, there is protection against overheating, and most likely this sensor is triggered at the same time, at all speeds it works the same way.
But now the question is - can this sensor be changed?
After all, if I even send him back, I will have to take either the clathronic or First. Well, if you try hard, you can find it with a guarantee of the seller Royalty Line PKM-1400.

[Nelya]

Nelya, look, you choose the speed, turn on the kneader, it interferes for 9 seconds and then stops. Have you tried to wait for a while, for example another 30-60 seconds. Does it not turn on again? Stops making ends meet? Or does it start working again after a while?

I’ll tell you about my experience in a German store “Univers”. I read reviews that there is no pre-sale check, but there is no guarantee. I bought myself a brand that is not here at my own risk. and took a cheap one after repair,



probably some kind of microcircuit does not work

or clathronic, or First.

hmm .. bad luck, and it's a shame that right in front of NG (instead of a pleasant surprise), I fell in love with him myself (he looks like Kitchen, and even with a protective cover ... he is handsome) .. I watched the video now (when I wrote for the first time I did not look, more all normal ones were still sleeping) ... the opinion has not changed, it works fine ... but definitely with the jambs overheating sensor. And I am also interested in Larisa's question, it turns on after stopping (look ... although in fact the recommended cooling of min 20 ..... You should also know where the sensor is, you could check it or not ... just point it at the sensor fan and turn on the combine, if the combine does not turn off with extraneous cooling of the sensor, then 100% sensor defect

[Larissa]

Larissa, no, it does not turn on when standing. It turns on only after I move the toggle switch (or whatever it is called, my head does not cook at all after the night) to turn it off and then turn it on at any speed. It turns on at 9 see and turns off again. You just need to transfer to OFF to turn on. t



lyuba-s, I had the idea to order at the university. And it was almost decided to take Boman there, although she also risked getting in without a guarantee. We don't sell Boman at all .. But I got this option and decided to take it here, at least we have shipment around the country.



Svetlanaand where is this protective cover located? Is that the one in front of the magnet case? Otherwise I opened it, and I don’t understand what it is for, that lid is in front. There the steel pin is visible under the cover. I thought maybe for a meat grinder, which does not exist. I asked the sellers for this cap, they also do not know what it is for.
There are ventilation slots at the back of the case.



Now my husband is in the kitchen, he will go to work, I'll turn it on and leave it for 20 minutes, see if it turns on or not. I don’t want to turn it on in front of him until I tell him anything, because he doesn’t agree with me that I would take it without a guarantee. I'm afraid that I don't kick out of the house with this kneader, I will have a New Year's gift

he takes a lot of people from the university, honestly I never heard that they would send a marriage Maybe I did not really penetrate, someone wrote to me that the ice cream maker was sent back

[Nelya]

Nelya, but you don't have a fuse on the back of the case? In an area where the power cord

[Larissa]

Larissa, I do not know! Now I'll go and see! and what does he look like, that guard?

[Nelya]

Nelya, I'm sitting reading. Here I read the instructions for another dough mixer:

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First, there is a fuse on page 6. Secondly, it is written that the mixer does not work if the protective cover is not put on the bowl.
See if it can help. Try to put the cover on the protective bowl and start again

Turned on, 10 minutes passed ... does not turn on
Larissa, there are only slots on the back of the case, you can see the fan, and some other hole. No fuse found near the cord (



But I realized about what kind of protective cover you wrote ... kulema, I did not immediately realize ...
I included with this plastic cover, the same story. Now I'll go and try to put it on, otherwise I checked everything in a hurry yesterday, hurried to work. And I thought about the magnetic cover on the case.



And yes ... thanks for the instruction! At least something in Russian! And then my instructions have 3 languages, but not words in Russian.

what kind of protective cover did you write

No, no, you got it right. Before that, I wrote about an electrical part. And now I've read about the cover. Damn, the thought that the point is in some trifle does not leave me. I so want to solve this secret and help you. After all, if there was anything with a motor, it would not work at all. And so, it seems that just some kind of protection is triggered because of some trifle

where is this protective cover located?

bye you, so I'm talking about a protective cover against splashes, (I just have a Kitchen classic without it, and it's so lousy ... I took it to the KU for the action) The one that is round in front on the upper head (that is, the part that rises, you have on a red background there is a metal cap ... it's right there you can get additional bells and whistles, I don't know whether you have it on a magnet or not .... something carried me into the jungle .. there are repair forums, try to ask a question there (and then I think from a female point of view, and there may be another reason ...

What's with the lid ... what's without the lid ... the same story ...
The seller just called me, although they agreed to call me for the evening. It can be seen that he is also going through. He offered to show him if there is a familiar electrician. And they will give money for repairs. If not repaired, the kneader will be taken back. But probably it is better not to look for an electrician, although an acquaintance of my husband is engaged in the repair of equipment, he repaired all the multicooker for me. It's probably better to contact the service

[Nelya]

Nelya, yes, find service centers for similar brands. They know the specifics there better. Such a handsome man. I would be sorry to give too

Such a handsome man. I would be sorry to give too

and I would have felt sorry too.

It's probably better to contact the service

ask, they'll tell you exactly what happened to him.

Nelya, did it seem to me that the kneader is working at a breakneck speed? Does he even have the first, lowest speed? As for the video product, it both includes a very high speed.
Nelechka, I wish you a speedy resolution of the situation, but before giving it back for repairs, think carefully, maybe it's better to return such a device? Nevertheless, I do not like all these drunkenness in this dough mixer!

About the caps ... I already confused myself, but I figured it out already
Now I'm throwing pictures, a little of what they sent me

Here's how to part with such beauty?
I call our central SC, I can not get through. To go far with such a weight. I already thought to just take the instructions and go without a kneader for now, talk to the master, describe the problem in words. What will he say? Maybe you will have to go to more than one SC. Or already waiting for her husband and talking to him. Can he turn to his master? In short, instead of sleeping, after a sleepless night, I sit and solve problems!
Ira, 6 speeds, turbo and some other mines. The speeds turn in different ways .... I think so .... I have never heard before how they turn and change. Maybe you don't know the right ... I'll go listen again ...

[Nelya]

Nelyaif you ask Klarstein Planetary mixer Klarstein Bella Nera can tell what in terms of how it should work

[Nelya]

Nelya, well, quite a crazy version - maybe he has protection for work with an empty bowl? Maybe pour something into a bowl and then it won't stop?

Well, quite a crazy version - maybe he has protection for work with an empty bowl?

, I can imagine if this is so, it will be - what the technique has come to (such as not figs to drive idly) Waiting from Neli to confirm the version

Waiting from Neli to confirm the version

: nea: Hardly. I'm already in a panic for Nelushka, considering everything in my head

No, girls, this is definitely a crazy version! I turned it on for the first time with the test! Sour cream and flour, well, seasonings .... managed to knead in these 9 seconds and stopped! I spliced ​​completely stunned, did not understand the humor ((((
In short ... how regrettable it is to report, but it is clear that you still have to send back (((((I just called our SCs, they do not repair and do not know this technique with us. True, they gave one number, but I cannot get through there until.

[Nelechka]

Nelechka, and don't worry come on then. Send it to the seller and let him transfer the money back to you as soon as possible.
You don't need to fix anything. This is not your headache.
Do not worry! It's a shame and annoying, of course, but we'll survive that too.
Look for yourself Boman then with a guarantee or someone else.

In short ... how regrettable it is to report, but it is clear that you still have to send back

Yes, Nelushka, I also read the instructions, looked at the pictures. There are no secrets there. You are doing everything right. The point is already in the dough mixer. One hope for this secret phone number
And do not care if you have a new machine, even better than the old one. Don't grieve, dear.

I went to the OLH, what's new there ...
The same KIARSTEIN kneader, only the model is different, the plastic is green and the power is 800 W ... the power is too small.
But the color infection I liked it, I love it from light green!

Nelya, I also found something else - the Klarstein have models where the protective cover for the bowl is put on top of the bowl, and there are models where the protective cover for the bowl is attached from above to the folding part around the nozzle. How do you fix it? If from above for the reclining part, try to fix it and turn it on with it (I don't know if I wrote it clearly)

like this on the reclining part:

but like this, when on the bowl:

[Larissa]

Larissa, like in 2 photos. To the bowl. There the cover consists of two parts. The sump cover is skirted with a half from the dispenser. The mench can see it in the photo.

on the reclining part:

I have this .. It works fine ..
Nel. probably all the same return. And now the masters will knock you out. will not do anything, and the seller will take it and refuse to take it back. who knows. They are all good and kind. while you pay them money .. And so at least the money will be returned back ..

They are all good and kind. while you pay them money ..

Yes, there is. It is necessary to forge the iron while it is hot.

spruce, but it seemed to me that the kneader was working at some crazy speed?

Likewise. Yesterday I was also stunned by the way he threshes at first speed. How to knead minced meat at such speeds or mix flour into a biscuit? If there is a difference between the first and the impulse, then I did not notice something. ((

[Rituslya]

Ira and Lena are right. I listened to it at all speeds ... it seems like there is no difference between mines and max, and 1 and 6 speeds. In short, I’ll call him, I’ll say that they didn’t accept it for repair. I'll call a little later, like I went to the SC.
Rituslya, we do not sell Bomans. I would love to take it. But there are clathrons, but there are many negative reviews, although there are good ones. Also a tape measure, but with a guarantee. It will work for a year under the guarantee, but after a year and one day something happens, you can't guess.
gawala, Gal, what is your Klarstein power?
They just put it up with us, only the photo from the OLH is not copied. With a hinged lid as in the first photo. Black, plastic
The Klarsteins Bella Argentea is a passionate food processor that uses a powerful 1200 watt motor to do all the painstaking stirring and kneading with delicious ease. From free-flowing egg whites to creamy desserts to heavy, naughty bread or pizza dough, Bella Argentea is perfect for any content thanks to three different stirring tools.Whisk, stirring hook or dough hooks can be easily and quickly connected to the food processor with a convenient quick release system and can be changed at any time. Thanks to the six-speed adjustable working speed, the food processor adapts well to its contents. Depending on the mixer and setting, the food processor turns liquids into airy masses, blends ingredients into a smooth dough, or kneads heavy yeast or bread dough powerfully and patiently. Klarstein's Bella Argentea is a dance floor, 5.2 liter stainless steel ball that holds up to 2 liters of dough. Fun for the whole family!

Very quiet, powerful food processor up to 1200W

5.2 liter stainless steel bowl for max. 2 kg of dough

Incl.Stainless steel bowl, injection molded stirring and kneading hooks

Six-speed adjustable working speed for optimal results. Brought from Germany.
I signed up with the seller. The guarantee gives only its own, for 2 months.

I listened to it at all speeds ... it seems like there is no difference between mines and max, and 1 and 6 speeds. In short, I’ll call him, I’ll say that they didn’t accept it for repair. I'll call a little later, like I went to the SC.

Uh-huh. If the shutdown glitch could be solved with the help of a normal wizard, as it seemed to me, then the lack of adjustments nullifies all the buzz from the acquisition. Because the speed here is one and it looks like the maximum. ((

There is no chance. Damn, well, how many Fate will literally knock on our foreheads that we don't need this? And we will persistently overcome difficulties ... in order to get new ones later.))

Nelchik, don't be upset. So that this is your biggest grief in the coming years!

What is your Klarstein power?

1000 - 1200W So it is written on it. Not quiet. from the word at all. But at high speed it does not bounce. stands very firmly. you can hardly tear it from the word. the suction cups are good ..

I signed up with the seller. The guarantee gives only its own, for 2 months.

Nel, return .. what is the guarantee that he can guarantee you if the device does not work?
And yes .. it says Made Ying China on mine. Well it is clear. nowadays even elite brands cannot be found assembled in Germany.

[Bijou]

Bijou,
Lenchik, don't tell me! Fate knocked right on my forehead - don't take it! do not get involved!
But I no ... hoped for the best! After all, besides the fact that the money was not withdrawn all day, and after that the dough mixer was sent to a completely different area, and not to mine. So also in eh every day an incident occurred at the Kiev New Mail, with this free delivery, where the goods for the iPhone7 were given to a completely different buyer, and Tatka throws off the link for me on that day. And I, more than ever, worried and worried, wait for the delivery and then re-register it for myself on a new one. I have never been so nervous about receiving an item as this time! There were bad feelings, but I didn’t believe myself.
Galina, no, you do not understand. Then a completely different seller gives a guarantee for 2 months. The one that just posted your ad is the same kneader as yours. Black plastic, 1200 V

you did not understand.

Exactly. I did not get that..

Nelya, I'm not even talking about the sound, but about the speed of rotation itself! In the video, as the uncle turns on, the hook spins like mad. At such a speed, do not knead the yeast dough, or stir in the flour with a whisk, knead the minced meat! My kneader rotates slowly at first speed.
Hand over and be done! If only the prod turned out to be decent, he would return the money without bothering!