Cake
Uncle Sam, hats off to your monstrous willpower !!!!
Happy New Year! And with New Happiness! Because in the morning to drink a cup of gorgeous coffee is, you see, happiness! And if you serve a cup of coffee to your wife ...
carry
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And for me Saeko has been plowing like crazy for three years now - my husband and I drink a lot of coffee. I used to cook in a Turk in the morning, but after the second time I tipped the Turk over myself (I get up at 5 am), my husband dragged me to the store for a coffee machine. The toad was choking - you can't convey, she's dear, of course. But after three years of use, I can say that my Saeko Royal Digital has fully worked out all the funds invested in it. The coffee brews great and, what is important, you can adjust the strength of the coffee and the volume of your favorite cup. It will notify itself about the need to clean the system, but we have had it only once. I pour water filtered from an ordinary Aquaphor jug. So if there is an opportunity, it is better to buy a coffee machine than a coffee maker. Moreover, now they are much cheaper.
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I also became the happy owner of a Saeko Odea coffee machine. Before the New Year, I accidentally drove into the MediaMarket to consult on carob coffee makers, and there was an action for this car. As a result, I got it at a price of 12,400 rubles. Delight!!!!!!!!!. Friends immediately began to give me different varieties of coffee for the New Year. So far, I like the one that lay as a gift in a box with a coffee machine. IMHO, if there is at least some possibility, then buy a coffee machine better - you don't have a headache for grinding, for washing the horn after each preparation.
P.S. We have a Jure coffee machine at work. Yesterday, for fun, I decided to try coffee as this expensive one prepares (about 50 thousand rubles). Either the coffee was crappy, or it was tuned to the wrong strength, in a word - swill. This is not an advertisement for my car, but a constant of fact.
Zest
I have a Saeco Odea Go, a good car, I specially chose so that there were fewer bells and whistles, so that neither the machine, nor me when using it, didn’t "brainstorm", especially since I was convinced that “all Saeco do IT the same ", and the price depends only on the degree of electronic equipment. There are no special enthusiasm - well, the machine, well, makes coffee. I treat her as evenly and without emotion as I treat a washing machine, which also does its job))
And I would not unequivocally advise everyone to buy only a coffee machine, and not something else ... everything depends on preferences. I will not bother in the morning with a horn, tamping, etc. - I would have to hit the buttons in order to get coffee faster and wake up, and if someone is carried away by the process of preparation itself and the ability to influence it, then the machine will leave a feeling of dissatisfaction, which occurs in some drivers when driving on an automatic instead of a mechanic.
Probably, you must first choose for yourself which coffee you like more, and what degree of participation you are ready to take in its preparation, how subtly you feel the difference between coffee prepared by an automatic machine and in a rotor coffee machine, and then make your choice.
Eretik
I was going to buy for a long time. Years 10. And now I bought it. Saeco Talea Ring Plus.

I like coffee and drink quite a lot.
Soluble stopped drinking 12 years ago. I switched to regular coffee, filled with boiling water (not steep).
Filled with boiling water a year and a half ago. I switched to a manual geyser coffee maker.

But I decided that it turns out to be a little expensive for coffee (25 grams per cup) and switched to espresso (14-16 grams - double with a lower dose of caffeine)
I can't stand coffee from drip coffee makers. I can only drink this burda with sausage.

A couple of tips for buyers.
1. Think carefully whether you need it.
2. Think again.
3. And think again !!!
4. Don't buy cheap non-names. Klatronics, Borki, etc.
5.Do not buy non-coffee brands, i.e. Siemens, Roventa, Boshi, etc.
6. A sane full automatic machine in Russia costs from 600-700 euros, in Germany from 350.
7. Be sure to find the source of good coffee beans in advance. If not, then don't buy espresso at all. You will not get good coffee without good grain, even on the coolest machine.
8. Remember that an espresso is a 30-50 ml cup of coffee. And not half a liter of black wine.
9. The smallest coffee firm is Saeco, the largest Jura. Vending machines from both brands (and everything in between like the Melitta) provide quality espresso. The Jura is considered to be more reliable. Saeco Royal's top models are believed to be indestructible.
10. Important parameters in the vending machine (except quality)
- temperature change.
- change in the coarseness of grinding.
- changing the amount of coffee per cup (shot)
- using pre-ground coffee.
11. Cappuccino is difficult to prepare. Latte is very easy. If not trivial
12 One-button cappuccino vending machines
- very expensive
- not very convenient to use (flushing, cleaning the milk tract)
- the quality is mediocre, that is, better than that of a beginner, but worse than that of anyone who has learned to make cappuccino.
13. Any machine can make not only espresso, but also just coffee.
Eretik
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oh, thank you so much for such a systematized information, for 2 years already with my husband we have been walking around Jura and all at the last moment the toad crushes us .. and you painted everything so well we go to a new circle
If you have money, then take, of course, Jura (or Saeco Royal). But at Jura, you should not look at the cheapest models, ENA 3/5, because the functionality is quite limited, or C5, which does not have coffee temperature adjustment, which is bad in itself, and some do not like it at all.
ollga_sky
Dear forum users !!!! I read the whole topic from the first to the last message and I want to say that I have gained invaluable experience during this time, many thanks to everyone !!!!!! I will definitely take into account the nuances when choosing a coffee machine in the future! The other day I inherited a Rowenta ES03 coffee maker, she is 10 years old, maybe even with a tail .. she shoveled the entire Internet, did everything in my power) but did not find not only instructions, but even mentions that the Rowenta line was when something like a model, even a photo like that is nowhere to be found (((I was very upset, I just have no experience of communicating with coffee makers at all, but it even has a cappuccino function! maybe someone of you will respond and help me in the search? please! !!!!!! I will be very grateful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eretik
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Dear forum users !!!! I read the whole topic from the first to the last message and I want to say that I have gained invaluable experience during this time, many thanks to everyone !!!!!! I will definitely take into account the nuances when choosing a coffee machine in the future! The other day I inherited a Rowenta ES03 coffee maker, she is 10 years old, maybe even with a tail .. she shoveled the entire Internet, did everything in my power) but did not find not only instructions, but even mentions that the Rowenta line was when something like a model, even a photo like that is nowhere to be found (((I was very upset, I just have no experience of communicating with coffee makers at all, but it even has a cappuccino function! maybe someone of you will respond and help me in the search? please! !!!!!! I will be very grateful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rowenta is, to put it mildly, not the best choice among coffee machines.
You can also make cappuccino with your hands (or attachments). With hands it will be more beautiful, with attachments - less hidden dirt inside the car.

I would take
Jura models are taller, but expensive. But aesthetically pleasing and reliable.
Saeco Royal (made of reinforced concrete)
Saeco Talea Touch (I have Ring Plus) is made worse than Royal, but cheaper than Royal and Jura, and the quality of coffee is not comparable.
Freken Bock
Quote: Eretik

Rowenta is, to put it mildly, not the best choice among coffee machines.
You can also make cappuccino with your hands (or attachments). With hands it will be more beautiful, with attachments - less hidden dirt inside the car.

I would take
Jura models are taller, but expensive. But aesthetically pleasing and reliable.
Saeco Royal (made of reinforced concrete)
Saeco Talea Touch (I have Ring Plus) is made worse than Royal, but cheaper than Royal and Jura, and the quality of coffee is not comparable.

Duc, the person is not asking for advice in choosing, but instructions for using the inherited Roventa.
Uncle Sam
Quote: ollga_sky

Dear forum users !!!! The other day I inherited a Rowenta ES03 coffee maker, she is 10 years old, maybe even with a tail .. she shoveled the entire Internet, did everything in my power) but did not find not only instructions, but even mentions that the Rowenta line was when a similar model, there is not even such a photo anywhere

What current model does it look like?
Rozhkovaya? (coffee is poured into a kind of ladle)
Boiler room? (water is poured under the sealed cover)
Pump-action? (water in an open vessel, the coffee machine rumbles during operation)

Please clarify. We will help all the site.

Such? (found as Rowenta ES 03)


ollga_sky
Thank you all very much who responded and understood what is actually required !!!!!!!)) Uncle Sam, I think that it is a Boiler Room, as it closes on a sealed lid .. And I thought that the photos would help !!!!
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wales
Judging by the photos ollga_sky, the coffee maker is old.
It's a shame that only previews are available.

Pour water into the tank.
Turn on the coffee maker. Perhaps your machine heats the water in advance, rather than in the process. There may be a heating indicator. In any case, do not run the machine dry.
And put the ground coffee in the horn under the very edge of the horn (it's good if the set includes a measuring spoon).
If there is a special trowel, you need to press down on the coffee. If not, then tamp with at least a teaspoon.

You can't see where the regulator is for 1 or 2 cups of coffee.

To fix the horn in the coffee maker, you need to insert it so that the handle is slightly to the side. It will catch on special latches such as a bayonet (usually like this) and turn it all the way or until it clicks ...

I think such a machine needs a fairly fine grind of coffee in order to squeeze more aroma and taste out of it. It is unlikely that this machine gives 15 bar of pressure

For cappuccino, make coffee first.
Switch the machine to the cappuccino preparation mode. In theory, there should be a heating indicator.
Pour milk or cream into the milk jug.
Dip the cappuccino maker into the milk jug so that it falls below the middle of the milk. You open up steam. Whisk the milk until frothy. To make it thicker, you need to knock on the table with a milkman - tamp it. This can be done several times. This usually takes about a minute.

Gently pour the whipped milk into a cup, in the middle or on the edge.
ollga_sky
wales, thank you very much for your reply !!!!! something is already starting to clear up) I sent you a good quality photo by e-mail .. and here are the questions:
1. How to find out the number of bars?
2. Do I understand correctly, first I make coffee, and then pour milk into the same compartment and whisk it (I turn the coffee-regulator to the left, the image of the cup; whisk the milk-regulator to the right, the image of the cappuccino)?
3. What is the iron lever on the right for?
4. Do I need to tamp a whole cone (several measuring spoons) at one time?
5. How much water to pour for the two cups and milk, respectively?

Here you write: “Pour milk or cream into the milk jug.
Dip the cappuccino maker into the milk jug so that it falls below the middle of the milk. "

That is, the milkman is the same water compartment? and how to lower the cappuccino maker? And where do I have it?)) maybe the questions will seem funny to you, but I really don't know!
wales
ollga_sky,

1. I don’t know, I didn’t find anything on this model either. But hardly more than 3-5. There is nowhere to hide a powerful pump.

2. Prepare coffee. There should only be water in the water compartment! The milk will be whipped with this water vapor. Therefore, always check if the boiler is full.

3. Most likely, this is not a lever, but a handle that unscrews and regulates the flow of steam.

4. And here it is not clear to me. In theory, one measuring spoon of 7 grams goes for one serving of espresso. This refers to the small Italian espresso 30 ml. Removable strainers for one or two portions are usually inserted into the horn. Or if the strainer is not removable, then the volume is adjusted by turning.
I don’t understand how it works

5. Pour water into the boiler, you can top it up or up to MAX.And milk - into the milkman))) for example, such
And "below the middle of the milk", of course, I mean the level - how much was poured.
The cappuccino maker is the pipe on the side of the coffee maker. You put it in the milk jug. Turn on the steam and beat. It will be fun to gurgle

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Uncle Sam
1. The number of bars can be found in the instructions. But do not worry that there will be only 5 of them in your machine. I compared the taste of coffee from coffee makers at 5 and 15 bar. There are differences. But not 3 times.
2. Already answered.
3. This is not a lever, but a steam cappuccino maker. In the "steam" mode, a stream of superheated steam should come out with a noise to froth the milk. If not, it is clogged with salts, it is treated by washing with food decalcifiers.
4. For one coffee cup: you pour a little more than a cup of pure water into the boiler. Coffee in a cone - Start with 1 scoop. Flatten. Tamp with a spoon. The taste of coffee depends on the degree of tamping.

And then you try: change the ratio of water to dry coffee, tamping force, preheat the cone, choose the perfect variety for your coffee maker and for you.

The only thing I can guarantee is that after the coffee maker you will not be able to return to instant coffee.

Good luck!
wales
Quote: Uncle Sam

The only thing I can guarantee is that after the coffee maker you will not be able to return to instant coffee.

Good luck!

Yes-ah-ah! Brown carcinogenic water will hardly seduce you))
ollga_sky
I seem to have mastered the theory)) it remains to work out everything in practice, I will definitely write the results of the experiments!
THANK YOU ALL!!!!!!
LudMila
Quote: Uncle Sam

What current model does it look like?
Rozhkovaya? (coffee is poured into a kind of ladle)
Boiler room? (water is poured under the sealed cover)
Pump-action? (water in an open vessel, the coffee machine rumbles during operation)
Of course, I'm sorry, but this is the first time I've seen such an extremely strange classification of coffee makers! Don't mislead inexperienced people !!! It's like comparing sour to mild, and then also to warm.
For example, I have a coffee maker and a car-type coffee maker, and a boiler room, and a pump-pump at the same time.
nelya
Hello dear connoisseurs of good coffee yesterday (as if not thinking too much) I bought such a coffee maker 🔗... (I can’t reach yours) although Ufesa is at home (but I don’t like the taste of coffee from it) ... I took this one without thinking at all this large basin (with a filter) is just suitable for my husband, he drinks a lot "like coffee "and very often, not really delving into its taste, but I like it to be a little bit tasty and rich ... but I can't deduct anywhere how much the bar squeezes out this expresso, nowhere is it written ... it will do it once with cream , the second time will not work, although the taste of coffee, frankly, pleased. On the coffee maker, the power subtracted 1300-1500W. Sorry for the stupid question, but how much can a given semi-expresso bar have ... no, to read your topic first, and then buy it, I bought it the other way around - and then quickly to you for advice. : red: I would really appreciate your answer
Viki
Quote: nelya

will do it once with cream, the second time will not work
Just like mine, until I carefully read the instructions. And it says that two in a row are pipes! After the first one, they say, drain the water that has already warmed up, and then "cook" the second time, and the third one does not need to drain anything. I don't drain anything, I have "between the first and second" .... a break for 10 minutes.
nelya
Here again, without foam, probably the coffee needs to be changed ... Girls, look at the site - very interesting (who has not seen) 🔗
Kseny
Dear forum users, tell me what to do
A month ago we bought a Siemens surpresso S70 coffee machine
Everything was fine, now the foam has ceased to be made, the milk is simply driven away. We have already read the instructions, washed this thing and nothing
How to fix it? Why does this happen? Really take it to the service? After all, in fact, there is nothing to break there.
The coffee is great.
Kosharik
Try changing the little one. If it doesn't help, alas, only service
patrold
nelya
I am sending data from the English site. Apparently, it does not have a pressure system and therefore it receives espresso using its power, that is, by the drip method (trickle).

Russell Hobbs 13402 Combi
Product details
Manufacturer: Russell Hobbs
EAN: 5038061021578
Aroma Switch: without Aroma Switch
Cup Warmer: without Cup Warmer
Filter System: Top Mounted Filter
Housing Material: Combination
Maximum Volume in Cups: 14
Milk Foamer: Steam Nozzle
Pad-, Capsules-System: Traditional Coffee Maker
Pressure System: No Pressure System
Timer: without Timer
Type: Filter Coffee Maker
Type of Electronic Infoscreen: No
Type of Jug: Twin Glass Jugs
Water Filter: without Water Filter
Ciao
Listed on Ciao since: 06/12/2006
Freken Bock
The presence of froth is very dependent on the freshness and quality of the coffee itself and the degree of grinding, grinded immediately before preparation. Well, and you need to tamp it properly, also not the last.
LudMila
Quote: Freken Bock

The presence of froth is very dependent on the freshness and quality of the coffee itself and the degree of grinding, grinded immediately before preparation. Well, and you need to tamp it properly, also not the last.
But we are talking about milk froth !!! That is, the cappuccino maker has stopped working correctly.
Kseny
Pros from the site can give good advice 🔗
nelya
Quote: patrold

nelya
I am sending data from the English site. Apparently, it does not have a pressure system and therefore it receives espresso with the help of its power, that is, by the drip method (trickle).

I asked a question about the pressure of this coffee maker in the online store Order table, and they told me that it had 15 bar. And how it really is - I don't know, the coffee seems to be delicious, the cappuccinatore does not always make the froth (I already ordered a frother from Ikea) ... but to be honest, I still like coffee more, so that the bottom is thick to show off. .. but on the other hand, here you can make cappuccino and latte
Freken Bock
LudMila , nelya complained about the lack of froth in the espresso (answers 316 and 318), not milk. I understand so.

And under all circumstances, with three exclamation points is not worth it.
LudMila
Freken Bock
We just didn’t understand each other, you didn’t indicate that you were answering Nele. It's just that Kseny's post is just above this page, and she has problems with milk foam.
And about three exclamation points - excuse me, my emotions, neither you nor the coffee maker have anything to do with it.
Freken Bock
LudMila, everything is OK. I, of course, had to show who I was answering. It's just that with three exclamation marks, you get the impression that they are yelling at you.
patrold
nelya

15 bar is the standard pressure for espresso machines. Usually the pressure is indicated in those. characteristics. Maybe there is a nameplate on the coffee maker itself?
What if you tried to make a non-espresso? How is the taste and consistency?
nelya
There is a plate, but only the power is indicated on it - 1300-1500W, .. and "not expresso" turns out also nothing ... consistency - as you fill in the water did not have time to trace - and already the compote, but the husband will drink everything
nelya
Quote: Freken Bock

LudMila , nelya complained about the lack of froth in the espresso (answers 316 and 318), not milk. I understand so.
and dairy sometimes and not dairy - always
patrold
Colleagues

Maybe there is simply not enough cumulative pressure for the appearance of foam?
Kseny
Quote: LudMila

But we are talking about milk froth !!! That is, the cappuccino maker has stopped working correctly.
Kseny
Pros from the site can give good advice 🔗
Thank you very much! I'll go there to clarify, I don't want to part with this unit and drink freeze-dried coffee. Maybe that will become clear.
Tanyusha
The daughter asks for a coffee machine, looked after her such Spidem My Coffee, Spidem Villa Black, Saeco Xsmall Black, maybe someone uses such reviews. I myself prefer coffee only from the Turks, and therefore the coffee machines are a complete layman. I read the ixbt forum and now my head is a mess.
Alexandra
Quote: tanya1962

The daughter asks for a coffee machine, looked after her such Spidem My Coffee, Spidem Villa Black, Saeco Xsmall Black, maybe someone uses such reviews. I myself prefer coffee only from the Turks, and therefore the coffee machines are a complete layman. I read the ixbt forum and now my head is a mess.

Tanyusha, I don't really understand these models, I can only say - both Saeko and Spidem are some of the best coffee makers. Take it easy which one you like more. I have Saeko Nina Bar - presented - excellent.
Hairpin
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I have a slicer ... I personally don't need such a coffee maker at all (I have such a coffee machine Carob coffee makers
I rolled my lip to a friend for such a sum to make a gift ... it broke off ...

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zvezda , tell me what size this miracle - a car ??? (coffee maker)

Quote: tanya1962

husky, this coffee machine at zvezda has been under repair for half a year and in general the reviews about the delongue are not very good. I was just interested in this issue, since my daughter is on the doctor's office.at first I ordered a coffee machine, so I scrolled through all the forums about them, pay attention to the JURA are very compact.
marinal
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Girls, and last week I bought this coffee maker, in all stores it costs 5000-6000 UAH, I bought it for 2900 in the store where we bought it. If kogmu interestingly tell you where I bought it.
The coffee brews delicious, with froth ... in short, against the background of my carob Roventa, just heaven and earth.
And I, in the old one, in this one, I can't really whip milk into a froth with a cappuccinator. Tell me what am I doing wrong ?? milk comes out just in large gurgles, and it is already in a spoon from a French press.
Thank you
Galinka-Malinka
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This is our favorite coffee maker. We have a geyser, and 2 Turks, and there was once a drip drip on the cups.
We drink coffee every morning and sometimes I have cake or ice cream in the evening.
What pleased me unusually and became decisive in choosing this coffee cup is that the foam is dense on a cup of espresso coffee (40g), there is a cream system.
(A good kitchen for fair gourmets in Kavi. Wonderful for the elegant design, high quality and perfect skin details. Broken out from stainless steel. inter'єr.)
We buy milk Prostokvashyno 3.5 fat content.
The milk froths excellently. Cappuccino is like in a cafe. And I brew tea with boiling water from it. there is a switch for hot hearth or steam. So tea is brewed faster, because a strong stream of water getting into the teapot also mixes it.
Bought in METRO 1750 UAH. even in the summer.
Yesterday I went to the Eldorado store there the same costs for 1999 UAH.
marinal
I do not know which way to brew in a coffee machine
Brand SPIDEM my coffe digital rapid steam

No coffee in the cup yet
Alexander Svet1
Dear coffee lovers.

Although I have a SAECO Primea Cappuccino Ring coffee machine, I also want such a Turkish device
Carob coffee makers
Children for May go to Turkey - is it really possible to find there and how much does it cost?
Kazak
Quote: Alexander Svet1

Dear coffee lovers.

Although I have a SAECO Primea Cappuccino Ring coffee machine, I also want such a Turkish device
Carob coffee makers
Children for May go to Turkey - is it really possible to find there and how much does it cost?

In the internet came across a description of work with step-by-step "comics". Informative.
I was right - not only one "foaming", that is, she does not know how to make a real rich oriental coffee (although who prevents it from starting 3-4 times in a row?), But in any case it will turn out better than in a geyser, for example, in a mocha ...

Automatic Turkish Coffee Machine (Photo Guide)
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If you will buy - if possible, grind it on the spot (in Turkey) for bitter coffee. In a Turk, if the water boils, the coffee will turn out burnt, burnt. As far as I understood from the description, it contains a thermal sensor, not a foam sensor (although I do not claim - I read fluently in Turkish). Any thermal sensor has a so-called. "plug" - not clear response. (the main thing is not to set up the temperature sensor, but to prevent the water from boiling). I think only very good for such a Turk. fine grinding.

By the way, as shown in the last photo on the specified link - in Asia, coffee is washed down with cold water.
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We sell them too. Veko brings
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Luysia
Gave a coffee maker yesterday Vitek VT-1511.

Carob coffee makers

Type: espresso, semi-automatic preparation
Power: 1050 W
Possibility of making cappuccino: yes
Simultaneous preparation of two cups: yes
Body material: plastic
Used coffee: ground
Type: espresso, semi-automatic preparation
Number of groups: 1
Used coffee: ground
Horn material: metal
Heater type: boiler
Power: 1050 W
Water tank volume: 1.5 l
Maximum pressure: 15 bar
Possibility of making cappuccino: yes, manual preparation
Body material: plastic
Water level indicator: yes
Power on indication: yes
Additional information: measuring spoon, tamper
Simultaneous preparation of two cups: yes
Hot water supply: yes
Heated cups: yes
Removable drip tray: yes
The option is certainly budgetary, but I like coffee more than from a geyser coffee maker and the foam is cool.

You still need to master the preparation of cappuccino.

And what Ukrainian milk to buy, so that it froth for sure?
Galinka-Malinka
Here we bought it for work
Saeko Nina Cappuccino
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I just can't figure out how to put a filter for making coffee in pods. The instruction is not correct in Russian, there is cholera with other spare parts. And with ground coffee, coffee is excellent and the cappuccinator works well with the ratio of UAH 2268 to the quality, I think it's good.
makabusha
Tell us which cappuccino maker is in this Nina? Is it a container for pouring milk inside the machine itself, which then needs to be washed every time after milk?) Also there is simply a cappuccino maker and an auto cappuccino maker. I can't figure out how they differ ..

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