Jaroslava 333
I'm typing from the phone, I look at the mistakes I made in the previous message, but I think the essence of the question is clear and understandable)))
Anapchanka
Try switching the lever to steam and letting some water drain from the cappuccino maker to fill the system. And then make coffee as usual. Although I don't have Bork but Phillips, I think that the principle is the same.
Sindi
Quote: Light

In addition to me, this coffee maker was ordered from my filing by two more girlfriends. So I took three boxes at once ...
So that's it. Satisfied !!!!!!!! Already several times I have been thanked for choosing this model ... One of them has a family using it several times a day ...
My husband was against it, and now he doesn't use the old one, although I didn't clean it ... Every day he makes coffee with pleasure on THIS!
Well, and I ... I'm just dragging along ...
By the way, she treated her very adult nephew, so he said that in popular coffee shops, cappuccino is no better served! In general, a coffee shop at home!
I am very pleased!

Tell pzhl, where did you order it? My husband and I are in a dilemma, we really want a good coffee maker, we love cappuccino. Here we came across your message, liked Vitek
Light
Quote: Sindi

Tell pzhl, where did you order it? My husband and I are in a dilemma, we really want a good coffee maker, we love cappuccino. Here we came across your message, liked Vitek
I took to Eldorado.
RybkA
We, too, are in search ... Let's go and look at fashion brands, so for our budget they are all plastic through and through. At the same time, models of more budget brands, the same Vityok and Zelmer, look more serious in terms of strength. Although in terms of technical characteristics, they are all practically the same. And what should I do?
Taia
On Zelmer coffee makers everywhere on the internet, reviews are bad. It seemed to me that the reviews for Vitek are better.
Also in search ...
Sindi
Quote: RybkA

We, too, are in search ... Let's go and look at fashion brands, so for our budget they are all plastic through and through. At the same time, the models of more budget brands, the same Vityok and Zelmer, look more serious in terms of strength. Although in terms of technical characteristics, they are all practically the same. And what should I do?

Still very good reviews on the budget coffee maker SCARLETT SC-037 coffee maker (800 W, 2 modes), Steam pressure: 4.0 bar, flask volume: 2-4 cups, nozzle for supplying steam under pressure, 2 operating modes: espresso, cappuccino , removable filter holder, removable drip tray, measuring spoon. But wherever you go, it's over, out of stock
RybkA
I have already read / consulted the characteristics, so people say that less than 15 bar of pressure is not tasty, they say the temperature of the water for brewing is not the same. Well, about pods ... they say, if there is no opportunity to grind immediately before cooking, then it is tastier with them.
Gallla
Girls and boys, unsubscribe. Bought "Vitka" - it's just SUPER !!!! Gorgeous coffee is obtained, an excellent cappuccinatore. She took the most primitive milk, whipped into a gorgeous foam. The foam is great. Everyone who tried the coffee was delighted! RECOMMEND. So many thanks again Light for your feedback and the opportunity to decide on the choice of a coffee maker. To have excellent foam, you must take at least 15 bar. We bought Italian coffee, especially for coffee makers under 15 bar. The degree of grinding of the coffee depends on the number of bars; the higher, the coarser the grinding should be. This is how the coffee sellers explained to us. Girls, this coffee maker is worth its money.
Light
here I am, having shoveled the Internet in three days, after reading the reviews, I realized that this is the best budget option (I do not take into account the model for 40-60 thousand) I'm glad that I liked the coffee maker!
Indeed, in relation to milk, there are no smut at all!
Light
Quote: Sindi

Still very good reviews on the budget coffee maker SCARLETT SC-037 coffee maker (800 W, 2 modes), Steam pressure: 4.0 bar, flask volume: 2-4 cups, nozzle for supplying steam under pressure, 2 operating modes: espresso, cappuccino , removable filter holder, removable drip tray, measuring spoon. But wherever you go, it's over, out of stock
4 bars is nothing !!! it is necessary to take 15-18 bar ... there are also 3 bars in the steam room ... Just zilch! You can't make coffee with this! Don't waste your money even if you find ...
AnastasiaK
Galina, please tell me, what kind of Vitek did you take? 1511 or 1513? I've been staring at 1514, but it's almost 2 times more expensive. I would like to ... And then my old coffee maker is only 4 bars, it's time to change it. At least for NG to drink delicious coffee.
Gallla
Quote: AnastasiaK

Galina, please tell me, what kind of Vitek did you take? 1511 or 1513?

I bought 1513, there is a great video ... I read about 1511 that the cappuccinatore is bad, there is less power. And I also liked 1514, but the price is biting
AnastasiaK
And in 1513, how does the cappuccino maker work, from a pipe of steam - you substitute a jug of milk and the foam is whipped there? I have it in an old coffee maker until you get used to tilting it at what angle so that the foam is whipped. In 1514, the automatic seems to be special. a container for milk .. We have a price of $ 200 for 1514.
Gallla
Quote: AnastasiaK

And in 1513, how does the cappuccino maker work, from a pipe of steam - you substitute a jug of milk and the foam is whipped there?

Yes, that's right. Oh, I don’t bother, I substitute and whisk, maybe I twist a cup, apparently I do everything on the machine, I will have to check it. Our 1514 costs $ 170, and 1513 - $ 80. Now I'm going to look at the video about 1514. I watched the video, I liked the coffee maker, just a little bubbly, press there, squeeze it, substitute it there, etc. Here everything is simple, turn left - get frothy coffee, and turn right - frothed milk. This is my second coffee maker, the first was drip, now it's a carob, and there will be more
Sindi
Quote: Light

4 bars is nothing !!! it is necessary to take 15-18 bar ... there are also 3 bars in the steam room ... Just zilch! You can't make coffee with this! Don't waste your money even if you find ...

I understand you, thank you! Let's dwell on the Vitek model
AnastasiaK
A-a-a-a-a, I sit in thought, considering one and the other. I just already had a carob, there the espresso and the cappuccino nozzle are the same, in the form of a drain tube. Only 4 bars as it turned out too little, and she is 18 years old. So tomorrow I want to order in the online store to bring it ... I'll think at night.
Gallla
Quote: AnastasiaK

A-a-a-a-a, I sit in thought, considering one and the other. I just already had a carob, there the espresso and the cappuccino nozzle are the same, in the form of a drain tube. I will think at night.

If there was already a carob, then I would take 1514. It is more tricky. I just have a carob first, so the goal was to test an inexpensive option in order to know in the future in which direction to move on. My principle is to buy inexpensive devices and check their need on personal experience. Then, if I like the thing, then I already look closely at more expensive brothers.
AnastasiaK
Well, yes, it is reasonable. I want a quirky one. Are you satisfied with yours? Is the coffee delicious? I didn’t have to, I don’t like overcooked, and sometimes it turned out as if it had been steamed there for a long time, and sometimes not, and the taste was different. Tomorrow, as the card goes, maybe both will be available, maybe not. I will report back tomorrow.
Light
Quote: AnastasiaK

And in 1513, how does the cappuccino maker work, from a pipe of steam - you substitute a jug of milk and the foam is whipped there? I have it in an old coffee maker until you get used to tilting it at what angle so that the foam is whipped. In 1514, the automatic seems to be special. a container for milk .. We have a price of $ 200 for 1514.
All three coffee makers I have got guaranteed to give a good froth. At least at an angle, at least without it ... And you don't need to get used to it ... The only thing is, if the milk has been in the refrigerator for a week, like mine this time, it will beat 2 times, not three times, as usual ...
Gallla
Quote: AnastasiaK

Are you satisfied with yours? Is the coffee delicious?

I am 100% satisfied. I like strong and thick coffee to have a bitter taste, I drink it without sugar and milk. Sometimes I drink with milk.
RybkA
I watched the video reviews on Vitka 1513 ... I am impressed by the height of the foam on a plain espresso, I have never seen anything like this. Even my husband said that their two super cool coffee machines do not give such a result. Now he also thinks whether it is worth looking for something from famous brands or trying this? ... Does he also froth well milk?
AnastasiaK
They brought me 1514. I didn't even open it ... I quarreled with my husband ... because of money. And now I am not interested in coffee or a coffee maker ... But I wanted to ...
francevna
Here is a video review of Vitek 1513.

Taia
Quote: AnastasiaK

They brought me 1514. I didn't even open it ... I quarreled with my husband ... because of money. And now I am not interested in coffee or a coffee maker ... But I wanted to ...


Poor pre-preparation.
Make some coffee and enjoy life.
Next time, be ....dodgy.
AnastasiaK
It didn't start with her. It just happened out of place. Just because of a quarrel, it is not pleasant that in the usual state makes you jump. And only I drink coffee at home. And the husband is only on the road to gas stations. I hope at least they brought in a non-defective one.
AnastasiaK
Well, we tried to make coffee ... Something somehow ... My old one with a pressure of 4 bars gave thick strong coffee, though every other time. And in a new one with a pressure of 15 bar, it turned out to be garbage-colored water. Although the second time, they laid a 2 portion for a single drink. I used coffee for both coffee makers from the same pack (Jardine), I know its taste, I grind it right before setting it. It is embarrassing that the coffee flows literally at the expense of one-two-three and ready, what will have time to stand out in such a time? Again, in the old one it drips first with such thick chocolate drops, then in a thick stream, and you get a cream. And here ... We tried to make espresso, and cappuccino, and latte - as they wrote above - about nothing. The milk froth is normal, but I was hoping for the taste of the drink it was coffee. The old one has already been repaired, it breathes in incense. They bought a new one. My husband brought me to try another attempt - water with water with a coffee smell, there is no strength, it seems to me that it is not even brewed.
Margit
Quote: AnastasiaK

Well, we tried to make coffee ... Something somehow ... My old one with a pressure of 4 bars gave thick strong coffee, though every other time. And in a new one with a pressure of 15 bar, it turned out to be garbage-colored water. Although the second time they laid a 2 portion for a single drink. I used coffee for both coffee makers from the same pack (Jardine), I know its taste, I grind it right before setting it. It is embarrassing that the coffee flows literally at the expense of one-two-three and ready, what will have time to stand out in such a time? Again, in the old one, it drips first with such thick chocolate drops, then in a thick stream, and you get a cream. And here ... We tried to make espresso, and cappuccino, and latte - as they wrote above - about nothing. The milk froth is normal, but I was hoping for the taste of the drink it was coffee. The old one has already been repaired, it breathes in incense. They bought a new one. My husband brought me to try another attempt - water with water with a coffee smell, there is no strength, it seems to me that it is not even brewed.
Anastasia, I think this coffee maker requires a finer grind of coffee due to the stronger pressure.
Gallla
Quote: AnastasiaK

Well, we tried to make coffee ... Something somehow ...

Something is somehow sad ... Now I have ground coffee Lavazza Qualita Oro, the coffee is thick and rich in taste. I can not advise anything. I have 1513, I like it.
Gallla
Quote: RybkA

Does he also froth well milk?

Penit is excellent :)
AnastasiaK
The girls went to the store in the morning, changed it to 1513. They changed it without question, it's so nice. We gave the money, still 1513 is cheaper. Now I brought it home, opened it, washed everything, made coffee ... I grind coffee on the Vitekovskaya coffee grinder, it turns out the same. Well, here's another thing - coffee as in commercials! Espresso with a head of foam at the height of a cup, fast and tasty. The foam is whipped from 1.5% milk.Why is that? Still the same, the same pressure, the same horn, coffee, grind, water, the same time for one-two-three, but the result is wonderful coffee! Now there is such a long aftertaste on the tongue ... 1514 such a sweetheart, so comfortable (I just wanted to press the buttons, almost automatic), why is this empty coffee? Here. Thanks to all.
Gallla
Quote: AnastasiaK

The girls went to the store in the morning and changed it to 1513. Well, it's another matter - the coffee is like in commercials! Espresso with a head of foam at the height of a cup, fast and tasty. The foam is whipped from 1.5% milk.

Fuh, well, at least I felt relieved, otherwise I was really worried All now we will be coffee lover
AnastasiaK
And then. Coffee is made quickly and easily. It turns out delicious. The foam remained in the cup when I finished it, now it has arrived - the foam is still standing. So the simpler the better. And we also went to buy a receiver for satellite TV, to walk like that. And the kittens were attached to the heap. At the mother-in-law, the cat brought kittens, they are 1.5 months old, they are potty trained and eat themselves. They took them to a special store, where they take the cats to be placed in good hands for free (only we, the owners who bring them, pay, about 200 rubles for one). A husband with tears: "Do not remind me of them," when we were people were choosing a cat. Oh, offtopic, well, we can forgive, I'm on the wave ...
RybkA
All))) we also bought a coffee maker yesterday))) We chose for a long time. The husband could not decide in any way what warms his soul. I agreed with Vitka, too, I really liked the foam there and the budget Saeko. But he was mostly confused by the materials, and especially he was told that the more metal parts the better, especially where the horn is attached to the coffee maker. In general, his epiphany came when he saw Kenwood ES020 🔗
I am beautiful and compact, my husband liked the collapsible horn and most of the metal parts, well, the heating element there is no longer a boiler, but ... I forgot which one ... like in coffee machines, in my opinion ...
Already made a cafe latte on pods, delicious))) Only now you need to learn how to pour coffee so that it then stratified into fractions. Well, we urgently need to buy dishes with different coffee)))
Light
Quote: AnastasiaK

The girls went to the store in the morning, changed it to 1513. They changed it without question, it's so nice. We gave the money, still 1513 is cheaper. Now I brought it home, opened it, washed everything, made coffee ... I grind coffee on the Vitekovskaya coffee grinder, it turns out the same way. Well, here's another thing - coffee as in commercials! Espresso with a head of foam at the height of a cup, fast and tasty. The foam is whipped from 1.5% milk. Why is that? Still the same, the same pressure, the same horn, coffee, grind, water, the same time for one-two-three, but the result is wonderful coffee! Now there is such a long aftertaste on the tongue ... 1514 such a sweetheart, so comfortable (I just wanted to press the buttons, almost automatic), why is this empty coffee? Here. Thanks to all.
Well, that's good!
Once again I am convinced that on this site they will not advise horrible things!
Maybe in 1514, because of the automation, the coffee is bad ... And in this one everything is done with handles, handles ...
Gallla
Quote: RybkA

That's it))) we also bought a coffee maker yesterday)))

Congratulations! Pretty coffee maker
Margit
Girls, I congratulate you on your new coffee makers, on New Year's Eve this is such a nice gift for the whole family!
Just remember that the water is very soft, osmo is best, in this case you do not need decalcification and the apparatus will serve for many years.
RybkA
Girls, thank you))) today we still have got dishes for єpresso and latte, so it’s just for the soul))) Who can advise a good video on how to combine coffee with milk for a latte?
Taia
Go to YouTube. There are many videos on this topic.
Margit
Quote: RybkA

Girls, thank you))) today still 'got dishes for spresso and latte, so it's really for the soul))) Who can advise a good video on how to combine coffee with milk for a latte?
For example, I like the first video because here the latte art technique is shown very slowly, you can understand the idea.
In the second video, you can learn how to draw on a coffee with milk:



igorechek
Quote: RybkA

I watched the video reviews of Vitka 1513 ... I am impressed by the height of the foam on a plain espresso, I have never seen anything like this. Even my husband said that their two super cool coffee machines do not give such a result. Now he also thinks whether it is worth looking for something from famous brands or trying this? ... Does he also froth milk perfectly?
Guys, I'm amazed that people still fall for MMM and publicity stunts. You have not read or seen on TV how advertising is created? You can make candy from any city. Stop trusting advertisers. Before cooking the foam, you can add so many different chemicals there, but will they tell you about it? It's a trick.
And in general, is it possible to determine the quality of the appliance and the preparation of coffee by advertising?
sazalexter
Useful thought-provoking information 🔗
1. Smell and taste of plastic, completely beating off the taste of coffee. They tried to fight back several times, to no avail. The last attempt - sterilization with soda ended in failure for the container with milk.
2. Does not provide declared volumes.
3. The foam is much worse than in 1513.
4. The assembly is disgusting, even outwardly you can see that a 1 cm water container is sticking out to the left.
5. Lack of spare parts in services, as well as the service itself - manufacturer Golder-Electronics ( 🔗) does not bother answering consumer requests.
igorechek
I agree with you. You can read reviews on the Yandex market. There is more or less objective information. And, of course, it is better to listen to the feedback from the owners of the equipment "with experience" in the operation of any device. You often read the rave reviews from the owners of equipment that bought it a day or two ago. During this time, many problems do not have time to be seen.
Gibus
Quote: RybkA

I watched the video reviews of Vitka 1513 ... I am impressed by the height of the foam on a plain espresso, I have never seen anything like this.

This amount of foam in 1513 suggests that this foam is not a real cream.A...

Most likely, there is a horn with a special valve-enhancer (information can be found in the internet), which artificially creates this foam. The same idea is suggested by the water remaining in the horn after cooking ...
Real crema foam depends mainly on the quality and freshness of the coffee, as well as the correct tamping.
Taia
I am more and more convinced that you do not have to believe advertising.
RybkA
Quote: Margit

For example, I like the first video because here the latte art technique is shown very slowly, you can understand the idea.
In the second video, you can learn how to draw on coffee with milk:



Thank you))) Yesterday I watched different videos for the whole evening, so everything turns out neatly there))) the simplicity is fascinating, but most likely everything will not be so easy the first time. How much coffee do you need to drink? I think to buy more topping, I like latte coffee more.
RybkA
Quote: Gibus

This amount of foam in 1513 suggests that this foam is not a real cream.A...

Most likely, there is a horn with a special valve-enhancer (information can be found in the internet), which artificially creates this foam.
We were told that there is / creates a vacuum space in the horn between the valves, which gives this effect.
sazalexter
Taia They only ask to leave a review not about the product but the store
sazalexter
Gibus In general, coffee foam depends on two factors, the design of the machine and how it creates it, and the quality of the coffee, how much it contains those very complex essential oils, from which both foam and aroma.
Margit
In the portafilters, under the basket of this kind of machines, there is an improverizer, many pick it out and use it as a normal professional horn. It is noted that coffee without an improver is much tastier and richer.

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