Choosing a built-in oven

We bought the Bosch HBA23S140R built-in electric oven today. There is 3.5 kW power. I had a dedicated wire to the oven was thrown when replacing the wiring, but it's still scary.
Well, there is no experience with modern ovens, before there was just a gas stove with an oven from the 81st year of installation. Maybe who used such a Bosch - what are the impressions and nuances?

Girls, but the fact that an oven with a microwave is convenient?
I have it separately and I can safely, for example, heat chocolate on cream in a microwave oven while the biscuit is being baked in the oven.
And if together, then it will not work out now?
I am also tormented with a choice, we plan to donate a kitchen to our daughter for housewarming, we must immediately buy a stove.

Combined is for those who have a shortage of space.
in addition, such ovens have a volume of no more than 42 liters.
Therefore, if there is enough space in the kitchen, then it is better to buy a separate oven, a separate microwave.

Thank you, I see. The kitchen is not small (it will), so it makes no sense to take a microwave oven.

[share and what kind of oven do you have?]

share and what kind of oven do you have?

Compact oven without microwave-Neff. Suitable for houses with not very good wiring. I don’t know of a dish that would not fit in it because of its volume.

igorechek, do you really think that I am so lazy? Well, if I did a complete renovation in the kitchen, naturally I completely changed the wiring in it. For all my equipment, they dropped a dedicated line directly from the meter. The problem is that our wiring is not ice at the entrance. And I relied on the experience of several of my neighbors who had the same problems. Well, in general, I bought and delivered. Here. More details: https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...tion=com_smf&topic=7345.0

Any access wiring will withstand power less than 3 kW. Any. This is the power of email. kettle, washing machine or iron.
Here the problem of "knocking out" plugs may be different. Very often they used to set automatic. circuit breakers for a small number of amperes 6,3 - 16 amperes. And they were often cut down. My parents, with excellent wiring, had a 6.3 Amp automatic machine until they replaced it with 32! Works seamlessly.
It often happens that bad or burnt contacts, which no one cleans, give strong heat and heat protection is triggered.

Larik, the more I immerse myself in the topic, the more horror stories I find: some have such dances with tambourines, - they have questions to the power regulators, and to the dishes, somehow they have to "catch" the landing point, and they are capricious to the little bottom .. ...
They write about FlexInduction technology: "FlexInduction is good because you can put large cookware on it. But it heats up worse, and, in my subjective opinion of the owner of a panel with Flex + 21cm + 14cm, it cannot replace round burners."
I'm still confused, but at least it's clear what to pay attention to. But it is not yet clear how critical this is.
Over the oven.
I look with a combined function (+ microwave).
Hey, users, respond!
How convenient and justified is this combination.
Looking closely at Siemens HB86P575

I have a Siemens oven and microwave, but not combined, everything costs separately, it seems to me that it is more convenient, because because of this combination, the volume suffers. My oven has a volume of 67 liters, sometimes I cook at once on 2 or even 3 levels, everything fits perfectly.

[Mayan]

Thank you, Mayan, let's think it over.

Sharp R-8772N is a new watch model, you have to buy it.
Having a watch is very convenient.

Everything else is more expensive, there is a good Panasonic, but it will be twice as expensive.

My favorite SHARPik. R870 model only. She served for 13 years. I do everything in it: porridge, pies, cakes, pizza, julienne and much more.Only the top grill burned out a few days ago. I started looking for a microwave with a 2nd grill and an oven, and you can hardly find such. But I searched the sites properly and found this model 8772. Tomorrow they will bring it to me. I will never trade SHARP for something else.

And what kind of beast?
Is it a microwave with additional functions or an oven with a microwave?
What is its volume?
And the model seems to be old. Probably there is already something younger?

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, this is a microwave oven with double grill and convection. 26 liters, in terms of volumes like 52 * 31 * 48.

Here's a description from the site:
General characteristics
Internal volume 26 l
Free-standing location
Dimensions (WxHxD) 52x30.9x48.6 cm
Pallet diameter 325 mm
Internal coating of the chamber stainless steel. steel
Weight 19 kg
Operating modes
There is a grill
Convection is
Microwave power 900 W
Control Panel
Control type electronic
Display is
Tact / push-button switches
Programs
Defrosting mode is
Automatic cooking is
Automatic heating no
Automatic defrost no
There is no possibility to enter your own recipes into memory
Cooking process programming is
Other
Other functions and features camera light, beep
Hinged door
Door opening handle
Color silver
I was puzzled by the search for SHARP a few days ago. But in Moscow it is very difficult to find her. Today I called several online stores and in almost all of them they go by prior order (1.5-2 months in advance). Only one store was available. I'll see if they will bring it tomorrow or not, and then I'll unsubscribe.

But I am very pleased with my SHARPIK.

hello to all oven owners!
I want to know your opinion,
is a pyrolysis oven or a steam oven better?

eh. if now I chose the oven, I would definitely take it with pyrolysis. because cleaning it, frankly, is not much fun. because of this, I actually only bake in it - 99.9%.

[Parallel]

Parallel,
I also tend to pyrolysis ...

Do you have steam cooking?

[Sens]

Sens, I have such an oven
Electrolux EOC 5851 AAX
It has pyrolysis, temperature probe and steam. I am very pleased.

[Painting]

Painting, and what gives steam?
and how does it work?

[Sens]

Sens, the principle of the steam generator. The ability to cook like in a double boiler, but I did not use it, but I did baked goods with steam. What gives? The bread is more fluffy and the crust is awesome.

The container must be periodically descaled. There is a special tool, like for coffee machines. I want to try pouring distilled water, but I don’t know, is it possible? Something in the passport is not plainly said.

[Painting]

I want to try pouring distilled water, but I don’t know, is it possible? Something in the passport is not plainly said.

can. in fact, it is necessary to distil and pour into the steam generator.
Painting, you have a good oven.!

A relative bought a Bosch HBG78S750 oven on my recommendation, very happy! She always wanted an oven like mine, but these are no longer produced, and then, mine without pyrolysis. And this one is like mine plus pyrolysis. Now she herself would not refuse such!

I really like 🔗
the design is very suitable.
but in Ikea the choice is either pyrolysis or baking with steam.

[Sens]

Sens, pyrolysis is definitely better.
Where is Ikeevskaya produced in China?

[Margit]

Margit, I do not know. I will clarify.
I know what Electrolux does to them ...

[Sens]

Sens, before all the equipment in Ikea was of the Whirpool brand, did they change the manufacturer?

[Sens]

Sens, before all the equipment in Ikea was of the Whirpool brand, did they change the manufacturer?

no. it seems that there has always been an Electrolux too.
they write like this:
"Together with Whirpool and Electrolux we have created a wide range of household appliances."
but, I think the ovens and microwave E-s., and the rest is Whirpool

[Sens]

Sens, I have an Ikea kitchen, in it all the fittings (refrigerator, dishwasher, oven, hob) are all Electrolux AEG

[Painting]

Painting, and when you were choosing the technique, you didn’t get the impression that the price of ovens is too high?
for example, non-ikeevskie models of Electrolux ovens are more functional, but quite a bit shiver ?!
in which country is the equipment assembled?

according to documents and certificates, the equipment was delivered through Finland. I bought everything 3 years ago, only changed the oven to a newer one in the past. I compared prices with prices in online stores. Prices were practically the same.What's strange: the refrigerator, the price of which was high 3 years ago, now remains unchanged. How it froze.

[Painting]

Painting, and what kind of oven do you have now?

The one that I wrote: with pyrolysis and steam. And at first it was also good. But I kept my hands hot there all the time, and in this one there were telescopic guides for the pan. Well, the probe is relevant for me. To be honest, I used pyrolysis only once and then not for its intended purpose. I baked pizza. In general, it is for cleaning the oven, but it does not freeze up and I just clean it with steam.

[according to documents and certificates, the equipment was delivered through Finland.]

according to documents and certificates, the equipment was delivered through Finland.
My husband somehow drove Electrolux from the factory from Poland to Finland ..

Electrolux EOC 5851 AAX

but she's not Ikeevskaya! ??
and it has more functionality. than the most expensive ikeevskaya !!! and the price is even less ..

[Sens]

Sens, before it was as if everything was only from Whirpool, I have a built-in microwave from them, and I didn't like their ovens and PMMs, but they were also of this brand. But I haven't been in Ikea for two years, and I don't know what is there now.

but she's not Ikeevskaya! ??

Yes, I bought it at the end of last year from an online store. I told you I changed the oven. I needed telescopes and steam. And I also wanted Electrolux. And the former was at that time 3 years.

Help!! Your head will burst! I choose a cabinet, I can not decide between gas or electric, I am considering a gas current Zanussi with convection, but from time to time there are doubts and desires to purchase electric. I didn't have a good stove, I cook on gas hefest, there were no problems with baking like

[journeyman]

journeyman, if electricity bills are not critical for you, then, for the sake of variety, take electricity.

how tangible will these bills be?

Rated power consumption for normal and full operation of the oven is 3.5-4 kW.
how often you will use - such will be the accounts.

Help!! Your head will burst! I choose a cabinet, I can not decide between gas or electric, I am considering a gas current of Zanussi with convection, but from time to time there are doubts and desires to purchase electric. I didn't have a good stove, I cook on gas hefest, there were no problems with baking like

Even the best gas oven will NEVER perform better than the average electric oven by virtue of how it works. Take a look. as knowledgeable people do - they separately buy a gas or induction hob and MANDATORY an electric oven. It is email. an oven and the quality and number of functions gives much more than a gas oven. I know not by hearsay, but by experience. The very principle of heating is different, but besides this it is email. ovens have the possibility of many additional functions that, in principle, cannot be done by a gas oven.

Even the best gas oven will NEVER perform better than the average electric oven by virtue of how it works. Take a look. as knowledgeable people do - they separately buy a gas or induction hob and MANDATORY an electric oven. It is email. an oven and the quality and number of functions gives much more than a gas oven. I know not by hearsay, but by experience. The very principle of heating is different, but besides this it is email. ovens have the possibility of many additional functions that, in principle, cannot be done by a gas oven.

I agree, plus a gas oven burns a lot of oxygen.
My mother has gas in my house, so I persuaded her for a very long time to buy a gas hob, and an electric oven. She has been thanking me for the seventh year now, although she scrupulously saves on electricity

And that's exactly what I did: a gas cooker and an electric oven. True, not because of the quality of the work, but out of the eternal fear of letting gas in the apartment (relatives in generations of metallurgists, I know about gas safety from the cradle on the example of depicting industrial accidents). Now another problem arose: after reading the instructions and seeing how many functions this oven has (like a spaceship!) I am afraid to bake at least something.
Conclusion: a free psychologist should be attached to the electric oven.
P.S. with the dishwasher of the same company, such problems did not arise.

Thank you, I convinced me to take electro, now can you tell me how to use convection when baking biscuits and cookies, since I had gas, I don't know how to use it, turn it on initially or the current at the end ???

if you bake the biscuit alone on the same level, convection is not needed. I bake one just on the top + bottom 180. if on two levels - then 180 with convection. I turn on convection right away. if you suddenly bake a biscuit on the same level as convection, then 160 plus convection. if I bake cookies, meringues, shortbread cakes, thin honey cakes, puff cakes for Napoleon - I bake on three levels with convection.

As I understand it, convection is needed for even distribution of air and is necessary only if the oven is loaded with more than one level? if one thing is being prepared, then it is not needed

If with convection, then the temperature can be set by 20 degrees less - also savings. And the heating is more even, especially if the oven itself is not very uniform.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, Olya, what kind of oven do you have?

Electric, Electrolux, pretty good, I'm happy with it. But the far left edge is slightly hotter than the rest. But not enough to turn the pastries.
By the way, before that there was an antediluvian electric stove Lysva with a completely primitive oven, but it baked perfectly.

Good day! Recently I discovered this forum for myself, bought a Panasonic bread maker and indulge my own fresh bread, now the question arose about the oven at the dacha. There was no gas, no oven, for ten years its function has been performed by a microwave oven with convection. Everything would be fine, but it is too small. You can't fry a goose, you can't bake a leg of lamb, and so on. To be honest, it doesn't bother me much, but my husband caught fire. The difficulty is that you will have to put it on the countertop, below it there will be a 45 cm dishwasher and a part of the cabinet with drawers. I wanted gas (cheaper to operate), but the reviews about them are bad. We decided electric. The husband chose siemens hb78gu570. In my opinion, it is too expensive and excessively crammed with all sorts of auto programs and so on. Those do not make sense to resist and buy such an expensive oven. My wishlist for the oven is pyrolysis, telescopic guides for protrudes and convection (I have had Ariston for 18 years in my apartment, I only use the convection mode and that's it) Well, the most important requirement is reliability, because I don't want to mess around with repairs, etc. Plizzz, advise the optimal oven! We love to cook, but usually there are three of us, you don't eat much, the guests come once a month on average + three to four people, four times a year +12, 15 people.

Now I try not to get carried away with the "convection" mode, only if necessary on 2 levels, I ruined the previous oven like that: girl_red: I cooked everything on convection, the ten burned out, an inhumane price tag for repairs was announced in the service, I did not do it, I used other modes , then changed.

Well, considering that my oven is 18 years old and has never used a different mode, convection shouldn't be so bad.

Owners of electric ovens, please tell me:
1. 3.5 kW - is it peak, maximum or constant consumption?
In the store, the seller assured that in the top + bottom mode (with convection) the oven consumes a little more than 1 kW.
2. How much has the electricity consumption increased (per month) after replacing the gas oven with an electric one?
Now I have 450-500 kW per month from the gas one, I'm afraid I will fly into the pipe with the electric one, if I drive it almost daily, and even more than once.