Choosing a built-in oven

Oh, I agree! I still remember my Lysva stove with its oven, the pastries were wonderful.

The only thing I can't understand is the benefits of the oven advertised on NTV-Kaiser. There are also some disadvantages:
- space above the oven is wasted. Do not mount or install anything above

Oh, can I have a link? Earlier, I remember, either among the Neffs, or among Siemens 6 I was with an elevator, but there the product on the platform went down from the oven at the height of the hood.)) All the accumulated heat remained at the top, in the cabinet bubble. But that the cupboard opened from above is something beyond, I can't even imagine.

[lega]

lega, lega, Thank you. Can you tell me more about the need and the number of auto programs and modes?

[Paul @]

Can you tell me more about the need and the number of auto programs and modes?

Paul @, I will try to express my opinion on the topic of auto programs. In this case, there are many factors to consider. There is no limit to perfection, so you need to choose based on real circumstances. Of course, auto programs are very good and the more options there are, the easier and more comfortable it is to cook. I chose the program I needed (or made it myself), loaded the oven and "walk" - no need to run to switch the temperature.
If the main user is a middle-aged person who is not too familiar with modern household appliances, but who knows how to cook well and has enough free time, then all auto programs are likely to be superfluous. In order to understand the buttons, you also need to have some kind of skill. Sometimes simple mechanical controls are the best and most reliable.
Auto programs need good electronic brains. Accordingly, the purchase price and possible future repairs immediately soar. To an advanced technician, but not an expert in cooking, a busy enough person, auto programs certainly add comfort to life. Until the "brains fly".

Something like this ... Look at your personal situation.

Since I now also have auto programs and I will say)) it's just super))) having tried it once, I won't give it up again. I have not tried all the programs yet (there are quite a few of them), but those that I managed to do led to delight. Now I do not worry about the fact that something will burn or be wet or dry. I put the dish, turned on the program and walk for myself, ale op and you're done)))

[Olga1984]

Olga1984, Would you imagine in My technique added an oven so that it was immediately clear what it was about

Thank you, but there is no way to indicate the oven ((we are talking about the Electrolux EOA 5851 AAX oven. You also gave me a link to the video. And yesterday I was surprised - I baked a chicken, the oven itself determined its weight and after a while of baking wrote on scoreboard - turn the bird over and turn off the shades, until I turned it over (I think the sensor triggered to open and close the door)

And yesterday I was surprised - I baked a chicken, the oven itself determined its weight

And this is how she was able to determine? Where is the scale in the oven so that without touching the chicken they determine the weight?

as determined, for me, too, it remained a mystery, she offered an automatic mode, I pressed OK and wrote 1.5 kg on the scoreboard (the price tag was 1, 115 grm.) baked in a glass form - I think it weighs 300 grams

[Olga1984]

Olga1984, about! So put a pot of water three kilograms in there and say that chicken. What will he say?))

she suggested automatic mode, I pressed OK and wrote 1.5 kg on the board

I think that the oven itself cannot determine anything about weight. The programmed Chicken assumes 1.5kg.Can you manually set the weight? If yes, then the principle of operation is clear. Then it's like defrosting in the microwave - you indicate the weight, and it calculates the time itself.

How I try to bake a chicken harder, I will definitely unsubscribe)) I did not try to manually expose

Oh, can I have a link? Earlier, I remember, either among the Neffs, or among the Siemens 6 I was with an elevator, but there the product on the platform went down from the oven at the height of the hood.)) All the accumulated heat remained at the top, in the cabinet bubble. But that the cupboard opened from above is something beyond, I can't even imagine.

The program on NTV "Culinary duel" seems to be on Saturday at 11.00. The Kaiser oven is advertised every week.
We invested money in development and production, but no one wants to take this model, so we have to woo it for a year, probably. And the company itself used to be called German, and after the "showdown" they began to very cleverly call it "German quality". Cunning as they can ...

[igorechek]

igorechek, yeah, found them "Elevators". Awesome ... This is the premium of such a piece-like trend that it is not clear who should buy them! Well it is necessary, to waste precious horizontal space of the countertop on this nightmare. ((

I stopped my choice and already ordered Electrolux EOB6850AOX.
I hope no one condemns

I was also puzzled by the choice of the oven ..... The chef looked at your electrolusk, liked it. but tell me you have already purchased it? Did you cook? Share your impression)))))

[Lily]

Lily, purchased but haven't installed or connected yet. Then I will share my impressions
I took it on the basis that this model is the cheapest with a steam function.

People who can tell you the model of an oven with a temperature range of 30 to 300 degrees? I can't navigate in the sea of ​​technology!

Oh, brothers, and I come to you ...
I am looking for a compact installation, electric, thinking about combining an oven and a microwave 2 in 1.
Who has such joy? Or have you heard user reviews?
Now I have an electrolux, but a freestanding stove. In general, I'm satisfied, but I want a separate independent built-in oven and an induction hob for 2 burners.

Why do you need this? They are all too small (about 32-35 liters) in volume. Take a good oven without a microwave, it's better with other bells and whistles such as a built-in thermometer, steam supply ...

[Olga]

Olga, when I move from our five-story building, I also plan to combine an oven with a microwave and induction on two burners, I still don’t use the stove. I looked after on the Market, I still have records at work, can I drop you in PM tomorrow, what did I look after?

[Gulnara]

Gulnara, thanks, of course, I'm waiting.
igorechek, and thank you for your opinion. I don't need a particularly large volume - my grandfather and I don't need much for 2.

[Matilda_81]

Matilda_81, Olga VB, I have for a long time already had a Siemens domino stove, induction, and a compact Neff oven with microwaves, and the oven is located at the tabletop level, very convenient! Think right, girls !!! I bake everything, as you can see!;)

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, excuse me to climb with advice, but first decide, if you take dominoes, which burner small or large you want to have closer to you, then you can watch the models!;)

[Rada-dms]

Rada-dms, Thank you.
I look at the panels, with Larisa's suggestion, with FlexInduction technology, there is no difference.
Although, if you think about it, which one is closer - also makes no difference.
Now my little one is closer, I seem to be used to it, but I don't think I can't get out of the habit.

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, excuse me to climb with advice, but first decide, if you take dominoes, which burner small or large you want to have closer to you, then you can watch the models!;)

More convenient when more comfort is closer. For example, a frying pan is placed on it, on which it is necessary to periodically perform some actions. And on the far small pots are placed that require less intervention.
There are always more actions on dishes with a large comfort and it is more convenient when it is closer.

More convenient when more comfort is closer.

Thanks, I'll think about it. Now I have a little closer. It seems convenient.

Today I fried fish on a small burner, and even put two flame divider under the pan. And she went to surf the Internet. The beauty! Nothing burns, and even nothing at all burns. A small hotplate is more convenient for me in front, and I brew coffee in a small Turk on it.

[Alevtina]

Alevtina, I also brew coffee every morning on a small neighbor.
And now I'm looking for an induction panel, but for it special jazz pieces are needed, but I'm used to copper.

special jazz is needed for her

First, enamel is suitable, they are on sale. Secondly, you can buy a disc adapter (just read about them here) and, thirdly, you can buy an electric one, like mine - I really like it - Beko.

Larik, the more I immerse myself in the topic, the more horror stories I find: some have such dances with tambourines, - they have questions to the power regulators, and to the dishes, somehow they have to "catch" the landing point, and they are capricious to the little bottom .. ...
They write about FlexInduction technology: "FlexInduction is good because you can put large cookware on it. But it heats worse, and, in my subjective opinion of the owner of the panel with Flex + 21cm + 14cm, it cannot replace round burners."
I'm still confused, but at least it's clear what to pay attention to. But it is not yet clear how critical this is.
Over the oven.
I look with a combined function (+ microwave).
Hey, users, respond!
How convenient and justified is this combination.
Looking closely at Siemens HB86P575

[Olga VB]

Olga VB, I have Siemens with microwave, pyrolysis and roll-out cart for seven years plowing. Really like.

[elenvass]

elenvass, Elena, that's what I need you.
What model do you have? what volume? how many levels of guides? In it, for example, does an ordinary goose maker become normal?
What is the maximum temperature?
There you can parallel use both functions (microwave and conventional oven)?
Besides "like", are there any "buts"?
Can you compare the characteristics with Siemens HB86P575?
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Olga, HB884570, 55 liters, probably 5, the goosebbler is fine, it's big. 300C. in parallel you can. I like it very much, I never regretted it.
+ the temperature is regulated with an accuracy of a degree, everything can be done, pyrolysis is generally our everything.
- as far as I understand, there is no steam for bakers.

[integrated microwave]

55 liters?
I have not seen such.
I was assured that microwave ovens are all compact, no more than 42 liters.
Is there a full-fledged microwave? With all the standard modes?
Somehow in her description it is streamlined that this is an oven, and in it integrated microwave, and in other combined models, compact, that they - "oven with microwave"... The difference is not clear from the descriptions.
Is it built-in?
And where does her air go, where does it blow? at the top of the door, below or elsewhere?

🔗 Here are the characteristics, well, I did not measure it myself, so I was surprised by your question about the gosyatnitsa ... Its volume is normal, like that of ovens.

Is there a full-fledged microwave? With all the standard modes?

what does it mean standard?

Is it built-in?

built-in

And where does her air go, where does it blow? at the top of the door, below or elsewhere?

have no idea, works and works ...
At one time I chose according to the principle let everything be ...
No yogurt maker needed, no dryer needed ...

And at what price did you take?
And what is the power of such an oven with a microwave. The fact is that almost all combinations are made compact because large ones get very high power while working - not every wiring will withstand. There will probably be 6 kW!

[igorechek]

what does it mean standard?

Well, at least defrosting, microwave cooking modes with setting the power and time, ...
By the way, there is no need to change the baking sheet or do something else in microwave mode?
There is a rotating tray or you can use a regular baking sheet from the oven in both modes (microwave and oven)
By the way, I have not found the energy class anywhere.

igorechek, Connection power, written, 5.2 kW

Girls, but in this model that Olga is looking after Siemens HB86P575, can you set the temperature with an accuracy of a degree?

Good afternoon everyone. I bought a gas cabinet Kaiser EG 6370. Quite such a nice oven. Bottom - gas, top - electric grill. There is a telescopic guide no. Two trays - deep and shallow. two grates, skewered. It looks solid and solid. They will install it tomorrow. I will try it - I will report. I took the gas one due to the terrible wiring in our house. I'm afraid he won't stand it. The neighbors put the electric oven in this way for three days and cut out the light twice. Spat - changed to gas. Well, here I have decided this. The renovation in the kitchen has been completed - tomorrow they will install the kitchen and the outbuildings. Hurrah!.

[Elenochka]

Elenochka, Congratulations!
Repair is a challenge! And how good it is when it ends!
Let all kitchen appliances serve for a long time and reliably.

Thank you! Let's hope everything works out.

Connection power, written, 5.2 kW

Clear. Those who buy must be careful. In many homes, when you turn it on, you will have to turn off many other email. devices, otherwise you can burn the wiring.
In my house, this option will definitely not work, this is one of the reasons that I chose a relatively compact oven (45l, h = 45 cm) with a power of 2.8 kW.

[quote author = tuskarora link = topic = 7345.0 date = 1404398 I took the gas station due to the terrible wiring in our house. I'm afraid he won't stand it. The neighbors put the electric oven in this way for three days and cut out the light twice. Spat - changed to gas. Well, here I have decided this. The renovation in the kitchen has been completed - tomorrow they will install the kitchen and the outbuildings.
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They would have taken it like me - a smaller electric one. The driveway wiring will withstand such power, and in the apartment for such an occasion, you can throw a new wire. But the quality of cooking in an electric oven is much better than in a gas oven. I don't want to upset, but it's a fact. I think for the sake of this it was possible to forge the wiring-work for less than a day.

[igorechek]

igorechek, share and what kind of oven do you have?

Hello dear
I have been reading the forum for a long time (I cook according to your recipes and have already bought the equipment a couple of times). And now we need to ask a lot of advice, we move into the house (there is only gas), and we need to buy a built-in gas oven. I read the posts and see that everyone is for an electric option, but this is not an option for me: girl_sad: Tell me, please, about a gas company, which company to watch. Like you, I don’t bake (I love the oven, of course, but not so masterly) The main thing is not to get hot too much, and gas, of course
I would be grateful for any advice

I can advise you on Siemens, I chose and became on it for a very long time. I love the stove, but in the old one everything burned forever, did not rise, in general, I was tormented. And with the new one, everything is quick and easy)))

They would have taken it like me - a smaller electric one. The driveway wiring will withstand such power, and in the apartment for such an occasion, you can throw a new wire. But the quality of cooking in an electric oven is much better than in a gas oven. I don't want to upset, but it's a fact. I think for the sake of this it was possible to forge the wiring-work for less than a day.

igorechek, do you really think that I am so lazy? Well, if I was doing a complete renovation in the kitchen, naturally I completely changed the wiring in it. For all my equipment, they dropped a dedicated line directly from the meter. The problem is that our wiring is not ice at the entrance. And I relied on the experience of several of my neighbors who had the same problems. Well, in general, I bought and delivered. Here.

Now about the cooking. I am reporting. So far, little experience, because I baked only twice. (I finished the renovation and went to the children’s dacha to heal, so there will be a comprehensive report in August). She baked wheat-rye hearth bread according to the principle of "Izuminkin's beloved" but on old dough. Everything worked out great. And baked buns with garlic. Baked well, tasty, but the top is pale.So I think the dough has failed, or the oven. There is a fan in the oven, but I don't know whether it should be considered convection. It turns on and off automatically when the oven reaches a certain temperature.

No, this is not convection - convection is when you can forcibly turn on at any time or complete with some kind of mode.
Regarding the pale top: If you put it higher, the top will be more tanned.
Or, at the end of cooking, turn on the top ten or grill separately, if there is one in the oven.
the main thing is that it is evenly baked in front-back and left-right, and top-bottom you will adapt to the temper of your new assistant and everything will work out well with her.

Yes, there is an electric grill at the top. So there will be no problems with browning. So everything was baked perfectly. I think we'll make friends with the oven.