Pizza makers: Princess 115000-01, Tristar, GF, Travola, Clatroniс, etc. (2)

I've been going to make a sponge cake for the princess cake for a long time. I am very pleased with the result - a wet, even sponge cake, a quick cake is ready to please the family.

[win-tat]

win-tat, Tatiana, thanks for the links! Judging by the description of the problem, I have the same situation. And the voltage has nothing to do with it either, I connected it through a voltage stabilizer, various kinds of surges are excluded.
Once again I am convinced that our forum is friendly, and will prompt and help
One of these days I will try to make a refund, order p1, and unsubscribe in order to dispel various assumptions. Maybe the weak stove really got caught.

[Svetik]

God be with them, with suspicions.

Yes, Lena, of course.
It is surprising that a person, having come to the topic, does not even bother to scroll back a few pages, we have been talking about exactly the same here for several days.
But when people only want confirmation of their feelings, well, who is their doctor.

The stove, like any other device, cannot be liked by everyone and suit everyone, but not to the point of absurdity.
I understand, if you did something according to the recipe, it did not work out, so go to the topic of the recipe and torment the author, find out the details, analyze why you are wrong.
And I'm sorry for the girls who rush to write detailed answers, waste their time, and they don't even say thanks in the subject.

I'm very happy with the result

It is most important, Svetik

[Elya]

One of these days I will try to make a refund, order p1, and unsubscribe in order to dispel various assumptions

Elya, good luck!

Fir-trees! So let's write the instructions for beginners on the choice of a pizza oven in our time and the first tests. I want everyone to be happy with their stoves and do not want to castrate everyone for not having read at least the last 15 pages, but answering the same questions every two days (and at the same time dogging among themselves) is quite tedious.
And so would-ask a question-address on page 1 or 1128, not the page number is the point.

You can throw slippers at me, but I started reading from an archive topic, in which there are 1000 pages, where they share tips on what and how to bake, how much flour is optimal, how long to bake.
It is possible that you, as an experienced user, are tired of newbies' questions (if you are guided by the number of messages / gratitude written. If you find fault enough that they write various fakes and then disappear, then please read my review here: pies with cabbage by Scarecrow, on page 87 (as a beginner, I am not allowed to insert links), you may understand that you do not need to pounce on people if they ask for advice. no.)
And if you have a negative attitude towards such issues, then please just do not pay attention. The forum is voluntary, no one forces anyone to answer. It is far from pleasant to read such malicious comments.
It's not that I don't know how to cook or use the appliance! And the fact is that it does not bake, and there have already been such cases, but it is very difficult to find such information on 1000 pages! And if there are moderators here, then I beg you, make a link like this:
The pizza maker does not bake, what could be the reason? and just indicate those links that were thrown off to me, and by which it becomes clear that this stove does not work like that.
Thanks to those who really helped with advice. The world is not without good people

The correct advice was given, it is necessary to create a section and place the answers-questions there.There, beginners will find answers faster and will not annoy anyone. And they answered correctly, I don't like answering questions, so don't answer. For example, Admin answers all the questions clearly - see there and see there. (Gives links where all this is). I was the very first one to exchange P2. The first one did not bake at all, but extinguished. The second bakes, but more delicate than P1.

[Marpl]

Marpl, Marinochka! We are all talking about the same thing. But where there is a moderator, these issues are easier to solve (I mean advice, typical mistakes, etc.) There the moderator does it. As it turned out, there is no moderator in the topic of pizza makers, so this is what happens.
Admin answers clearly and provides links to the material that is recorded in certain topics, often open by her. Yes, it's very convenient.
And where to address here? In someone's answer, which, again, to find, you have to shove all the pages.
And by the way, we all helped you to fix the situation with the stove. Or I'm wrong*

Probably not helping me. I myself wrote to Shtebovich and he quickly decided everything. We exchanged quickly without any problems. And there may be a moderator, maybe someone is interested and does not bother. Look, Elena Tim became a moderator, so she quickly raked everything, scattered everything on the shelves and she does it with pleasure and jokes. Maybe the same one will appear here.

[Marina]

I wrote to Stebovich herself and he quickly decided everything

Marina I wrote here
Pizza makers: Princess, Tristar, Travola, GF, etc. (2) # 2964

I get the impression that among the Tristars and Princesses-2, pizza makers often come across, which are bad, very slowly fried and baked.

It's really time to draw a conclusion and for all beginners to voice that PRINCESS 2 and TRISTAR come across with poor temperature controllers, if you need biscuits and baked dishes, then you can choose them. If you come across with a good thermostat, you can fry in it and reduce the temperature for baking. This will be the basis for the selection of these ovens. But if you need to fry, then for this there is GF, Princess, Ariette, Clathronic for these stoves, as far as I remember, there are no complaints that they are slow. I won't say anything about Travola, because I didn't see or touch him. After such a problematic Tristar, I was not even going to buy a similar P2. I repeat once again, who has not heard me yet. I took my Tristar to the workshop, explained that the regulator does not work correctly, with long interruptions - heating for a minute (the green light comes on), a break for five minutes (the light goes out, the heating subsides within 1 minute, 4 minutes of heat support - nothing "squeals" , which means that nothing is being prepared). She asked me to simply pour cold water and see how long it takes to boil. After a while, I received an act, the thermostat is faulty, there are no spare parts, which means the return of the goods. I returned the goods, received the money, bought a gf, now I fry without problems. If you have the same problem, call the store and find out how to make a return.

bought gf, now I fry without problems

Hurrah! Another confirmation that GFK has much more in common with P1 than Tristar and P2 - after all, it's not in vain that its coverage and power are one-on-one with Princess Mom.

Another confirmation that GFK has much more in common with P1 than Tristar and P2

Julia, you probably wanted to say this, or I didn't understand something.

Another confirmation that GFK has much more in common with P1 than with Tristar and P2

But I liked the coverage more at Tristar

Virgo, is your Princess logo sticker holding up well? I flew off at once and in its place there is a depression with a dot - not beautiful. How can you glue?

Perhaps you wanted to say this, or I didn't understand something.

Another confirmation that GFK has much more in common with P1 than with Tristar and P2

You can say that, but I meant that the GF, despite the external difference from the three above-mentioned stoves, is very similar in character, power and internal coating to P1, plus really valuable improvements: a convenient knob, a timer and an auto shutdown, temperature control with clear values , more reliable protection of wiring against condensation!

The coverage of P1, P2 and Tristar is the same.
But constructively and externally, P2 and Tristar are made better.
They also have no problem with condensation.

The coverage of P1, P2 and Tristar is the same.

They wrote that P2 and Tristar have a smoother coating .. Or can it be different too? Both GF and P1 have absolutely the same ..

They also have no problem with condensation.

They have vents in the case, and the GF has better protection for the wires themselves!

It was my Tristar's coating that was smoother and the pimples were rounder, while P1 and GF had the same, more prickly, pimples are closer to each other. After the purchase, I fried eggplants and between the pimples, the blackness is not washed off. It didn't burn like that to Tristarchik, that's where he really wiped it with a rag and that's it, but in my GF it is necessary to rub the burnt one. It seems that in the GF it was necessary to lubricate the surface with oil for the first time and warm it up so that the pores would close, like in an aluminum frying pan

Yes, I also had n1, but now the GF, the coating is the same, well, bless you, I never baked anything at the maximum.

I did not count the bumps

I did not count the bumps

I never baked anything at the maximum.

At the maximum, I bake only biscuits, but with a mesh and on a Teflon rug! All other baked goods are 195, and sweet 180!

[Yuliya K]

Yuliya K, Yul, and what is the temperature P1?

[Lenusya]

Lenusya, I do not know! But I know that at the maximum GF (210) with P1 they cook the same way! But I have a lot more steam in P1 .. this is the main disadvantage for me ... for this reason and other advantages in the GF, I often cook in it.

[Lenusya]

Lenusya, in the first topic, Manna wrote that in P1 190 degrees she intended

But pisses P1 hard.
Today I did a durovka, 15 minutes out of the declared 30 minutes was enough for Tristar. It's good that I opened it after 15 minutes. otherwise I would have taken out the coals.

[optimist]

optimist, Lena! This can be easily removed with a mesh and a Teflon mat on the bottom plus a Teflon mat on top if necessary. You don't even need forms.

of the declared 30 for Tristar

In Tristar, it is baked for 20 minutes and it is off for 20 minutes, as in P1 and P2.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock, IRA, yes, everything is correct in the recipe - 30 minutes. Only pizza maker Travola, I confused with Tristar.

Bubuka, your suspicions are in vain, P1 and P2 bake pizza the same way.
The top is not fried in any of the ovens.

Ha! How is it not fried? It gets very fried for me if I throw food on top of it beyond any measure. It even burns from above, one might say.

Experienced the newly acquired Trisha today. Handsome, of course! The First Princess on his elegant background is a vulgar peasant woman at the fair. But I touched the micro-scratches with a rag. So this shine will not exist for a dandy for long.)) And it smelled when turned on so that at least run from home, he is such a Chinese-Chinese from the budget ranks by the notes of amber.

I warmed up gradually, trying to figure out how many heating levels there are. I counted about five, if not more. At first, I was delighted - having reached the maximum, I put an old wooden spatula between the bowls, so it sweated with old fat. I think - well, she will spit a la Princess First at the maximum!

But no. First of all, I baked curd scones from Mistletoe in it - a win-win dish that always turns out to be so flawless that I can't bring myself to try to cook it in the oven at least once. )) Girls, who wanted a special that pizza maker there? This is exactly it.)) https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=370738.0

The princess seems to cook it in 15 minutes, while the top is evenly ruddy, but the bottom may begin to smell burnt. In Tristar, it took at least 20 minutes to cook, plus stand a little. The bottom also has a "well-prepared" smell, but the top turned out to be paler than usual. Either the dough turned out to be completely different (because the cottage cheese is not quite cottage cheese), or it simply could not stand the recipe (there is not enough butter, there is a lot of cottage cheese, three times the norm). There is a photo, but on the phone, but it does not connect here. (

But the taste is excellent! Almost destroyed this whole mountain of one and a half portions of dough.
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And I promoted the Princess today. She grabbed her head - how much filth had accumulated in it! Despite the fact that I cook nothing in it - only dry baked goods, mainly with very rare baking of potatoes with additives. (((It's even surprising how she still hasn't shorted it - there the thermostat is baked all over in burnt fat.

How is it not fried?

It was about pizza, ordinary pizza edges are not fried on any pizza)

In Tristar, it took at least 20 minutes to cook, plus a drop to stand. The bottom also has a "well-prepared" smell, but the top turned out to be paler than usual.

Flax, this is probably typical of Tristar.
Here's a comparison, my French meat in Tristar:

French style meat with potatoes (Princess 115000 pizza maker) (Tanyulya)

[Lena]

Lena, your top is different.
You have tomatoes, they are watery. Tatyana has onions there, cheese on top, probably.
Also, possibly different heights to the top cover.

I have it at the durovka, I'll put a little more, the top burns straight, a little less, golden.

These are just my assumptions)

[Lena]

Lena, your top is different.
You have tomatoes, they are watery. Tatyana has onions there, cheese on top, probably.

Irin, and I have cheese on top ...

Well, of course) just cheese on tomatoes and cheese on onions will bake differently.

The girls are now all different cheeses, some melt, but not fried, even if you keep them under the grill, they will be light.

And Tanyushino in the Princess:

Oh, I have never seen such beauty!
But Irina is probably right - wet tomatoes cool the surface temperature by their evaporation, so she doesn't want to blush. * I remembered how I once forgot a similar dish in the Princess for half an hour, so even inside the potatoes the tomatoes turned red * Well, how to live with such a sultry young lady of narrow specialization? So I bought a braked guy in the company.)) Tomorrow I'll check the focaccia, then everything will be clear right away.

So I bought a braked boy for the company.))

Flax, the cheese is not brown on the potatoes either.
I did it without tomatoes.
Although, of course, it may be a matter of cheese.

[RepeShock]

RepeShock,
* Bijou remembered that somewhere in the pantry she had another Princess, bought "on the occasion" for spare parts for inexpensive and after major repairs, that is, a completely new one * We need to check her disposition. But Tristar was on the whole for a decent time. And the algorithm seems to differ from P1 - that one works in large blocks, and this one is smaller. The princess heats up for a long time and is idle for a long time, for 15 minutes for 3-4 cycles. And then straight on-off was constantly blinking. Maybe this is the case? Here the temperature is smoother, but there are no casts in a red-hot state.
Or maybe I made it all up. What is not imaginable from one cooking.))

I am quite happy with my Princess P2. I already wrote that I bought two P2s last week, as a gift for myself and my sister. After reading what could be with heating defects, I immediately began to experience. The first experience of baking a curd dough pie with plum filling was not very successful, although the pie turned out to be edible. It is her own fault - she baked the cake in the attached silicone form and constantly opened and looked under the lid. As a result, the cake was baked for about 40 minutes, and I dried it too much. The next one was pizza, here I didn't use any forms or rugs, didn't open the lid, baked at a maximum of 12 minutes, then sprinkled with cheese and another 3 minutes. It turned out quite decent and everyone liked it, taking into account the fact that the filling was from what was in the refrigerator. Photo only such

There was also some bread
top and bottom also baked for about 15 minutes.
I am quite happy with how it works. I don't need her to fry and everything burned in her, I need her to bake.
So far I used only my Princess, and in the one that I bought my sister I only measured the temperature in order to understand whether it was working correctly. At the same time, I noticed that the timer works a little differently for them. Measured 4 cycles at maximum: incl. green. light-off. green light bulb. In my P2 these 4 cycles lasted 15 minutes, in the other P2 it took 20 minutes.That is, my stove turned on and off more often, my sister's stove less often, while the maximum temperature in my sister's stove was 5 degrees higher than in mine, and the minimum temperature was 10 degrees lower. I hope that this fact will not greatly affect my sister's work, in the near future I will also bake something in her.
If anyone is interested, I will give the results of measurements of the heating temperature of my P2:

I measured it with an electronic thermometer with a metal "probe", so the halves of P2 were not completely closed. At a minimum, the stove warmed up to 85 *, cooled down to 46 *. The thermostat at an average value - heating to 154 *, cooled to 112 *, then heating to 133 * cooled to 112 *. Thermostat at the maximum - after turning on the green. the light turned off after 4min temp. 206 *, but the stove continued to heat up to 227 *, next time green. the light turned on after 4 minutes at a temperature of 186.6 *, turned off after 1 minute (190 *), it still warmed up to 201 *, then the temperature dropped to 182 *, increased to 198 *, then dropped to 179 *, increased to 199 * ... I measured it 2 times, everything matched up to a degree. In P2, the sisters have the same dynamics, only a little less often on-off, so the maximum temperatures are 5 * higher, and the minimum values ​​are 10 * lower.

I read everything, and then I took it and took out Tristarka. He's a wayward guy, but he bakes noble coclets: delicious, fluffy, crispy.
First, 5 minutes at the maximum, then we subtract 10 minutes in the middle. Yum! Everything is under the cover.

[Rituslya]

Rituslya, just about, you are a provocateur! Because of your cutlets, I gave up two thousand.

[Bijou]

Bijou, Lenus, try it. True. I already wrote that Tristar lifts everything that was standing firmly before. * JOKINGLY * He's great. At first I even wanted to give it away for free, but I felt sorry.
For me, the pastries in it are always wonderfully lush.
Pavlena, Helen, thank you! Very curious, yes. Let's keep in mind. What a cool bread!

Lena, smart girl, compared the two princesses, if I understood you correctly, then my sister will have a slow-moving one. It means she will bake, but will not fry. Please cook the same dish in two stoves at once, I am personally interested in what these stoves are doing.

It means she will bake, but will not fry. Please cook the same dish in two stoves at once, I am personally interested in what these stoves are doing.

Yes, I'm also interested in cooking and comparing. Maybe it will fry, because the maximum temperature in it is 5 * higher (for 4 cycles it was -233 *, 206 *, 201 *, 200 *)

Maybe and will fry

You should try it on cutlets and potatoes. There is more moisture in the food, it will be seen how long it will take to fry or stew.

Speaking of potatoes: yesterday I bought 1kg French fries at Pyaterochka. I poured this potato directly from the freezer into the heated Tristar. Just 1kg fit. Fried for 15 minutes, then mixed, salted and another 15 minutes. It should be borne in mind that the product is frozen! Well, as always, I left it in the off stove. There was no strong roastiness, but it was not steamed either. We ate it with pleasure, the product, of course, is harmful, but tasty.



Yes, I baked it in a silicone mold, oiled with vegetable oil, and sprinkled oil on top too.

[Svetlenki]

Svetlenki, thanks a lot! 👍🏻

[super fast rolls]

Good day, everyone. How many pages about potatoes. I’ve already written, I’ll write again, maybe someone will come in handy. I cook potatoes in Gf-ke very often. I have it baked, but with a delicious crust and no butter. My version is this: I cut it coarsely, with such good slices, add salt, pepper, seasonings to taste, be sure to spicy curry (well, I love it) and a drop of mayonnaise. You can squeeze out a little garlic. I don't add oil at all. I load all this into a cold GF-ku on a Teflon mat (I do not grease the mat with oil), turn it on for a maximum of 20 minutes. A little less, depending on how large the potatoes are cut. During these 20 minutes I mix 1-2 times. Always stir for the first time 10 minutes from the start of cooking. Everything is simple and tasty !!!
Also my favorite became super fast rolls... This is generally the king of my kitchen. How many have I re-cooked them: with cranberry, apricot jams, with boiled condensed milk, I just added frozen blueberries, cranberries, chocolate, orange to the dough. Always delicious and super fast.It is baked in Gf-ke 5 minutes from cold.



Pie in grapes:

Zavarnushki, I did it twice and both times as flat, and those that are laid out in the outer circle, so to speak, rise well in the shadow, and those in the center are flat but oh well, let's think the main thing is delicious

Classic American muffin (it seems that the name of the recipe sounded like that) I added orange zest, chololade pieces and blueberries:

Another pie with grapes:

Stuffed zucchini with meat, tomato and cheese

That's what I could, I remembered

[Kolizeika]

Kolizeika, Svetlana, super!
How do you bake a biscuit? Are you just pouring the dough into a cold oven? Or in shape, on a rug? And how many eggs to come out as thick as in your photo? And what is the diameter of the GF? Megnya has a Princess, but I haven't seen GF, is she the same?