Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

Girls, thank you all very much for your help, I will try.

Svetochka, does it taste better? but on a dietary long will not ferment?

Of course better! I baked on a dietary one. It turns out great. Look which one I like

Panasonic SD-2511. Diet bread with whole grain flour, dill and parsley ($ vetLana)

Try this one too.

Whole Grain Bread (from the Panasonic SD-2511 / SD-2510 CP recipe book) ($ vetLana)

[Ritochka]

Ritochka, thank you, otherwise I want to bake bread for my mother, looser, tastier and more useful, at the same time to run a diet program. Do you think that Sanadorin bread will withstand the dietary regime, it will be already 5 hours ... by morning it will be ready
Now I have a dough for pies with oatmeal and rye flour ... "do not sleep, do not sleep, mow, mow ..." after that I'll start with c. h. flour
Oh, here and Sveta I threw in recipes ... went to read, decide what exactly I will bake



I am now, as in that joke:
-What are you going to drink, vodka or alcohol?
-Oh, I don't even know, everything is so tasty!

but on a dietary long will not ferment?

The "dietary" regimen is just for whole grain flour. In European stoves, it is called "Whole Grain" According to the instructions, it is used if the whole grain flour in the recipe is 50-100%.




That is, recipes 50/50 can be baked according to the flour that is in the recipe, either of the two, and you can already choose the taste, the bread on which mode you like best.

-What are you going to drink, vodka or alcohol? -Oh, I don't even know, everything is so tasty!

Extend the pleasure for several days.
You don't need to bake everything right away. Today, one, after a while - another.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, whole grain is for mom, and for myself without options - rye

ABOUT! BUT Sonadorin is so delicious! Have you seen my pictures !?
As it was successful, so there is my continuous amateur performance, I devoted myself there ... I think it is possible for him to Diet. But I haven't tried it myself.

[Ritochka]

Ritochka, I can finally beat something fancy, on the basis of instructions, but as always in my own way ... I put it on a dietary one with raisins, and poured flaxseed into the dispenser. Instead of water, I now have birch sap everywhere in the dough, I even cook porridge on it, the good will not be lost, it happens once a year for two or three weeks. And in the dough, as I usually do, semi-fat-free flaxseed flour ... In general, if it works out, I'll sign everything tomorrow

Intmagazin manager dissuades from Panasonic and advises Italian Beroti, motivating that it has metal drive mechanisms inside, unlike Panasonic, where everything is made on plastic. And the manufacturer donates a large book with recipes for Italian bread. And I already tuned in to Panasonic after reading the forum. Now I'm completely confused.

[Olga]

Olga, and you read about this "Italian" HP, purely for interest. And compare with reviews about Panasonic, doubts will disappear right there.

[Thumbelina]

Thumbelina, Olga, neighbor, hold on! Do not fall for provocations of Panasonic oven, tested for years. well, or maybe on the forum you will find something good about the Italian woman, then you can decide on it.

[Olga]

Olga, and also try to insist on buying Panasonic in this store, it will miraculously not be available to them. This is a divorce shop.

[Svetlana]

Svetlana, I just wanted to clarify what kind of Internet store Apparently the same one that many forum users have already run into here.

Bread maker Berrardi BE-5 read there about this divorce.

Shop with advertisements from our site hleb-, it would be better not to ask their advice, dissuaded in favor of Italian or Kenwood. Prices are not painfully high for them on Panasonic, so I decided to buy there.
My LG came out of the side because of a jammed bucket, my husband took it apart, and there the belt broke. I fixed it as best I could, but she does not bake such bread as before, says the belt slips. So I was led to persuasion about metal gears.

[Olga]

Olga, I have several hp, Panasonic is the best and I don't care what's inside him, but his bucket is with a very resistant coating. Take it you will not regret it, just buy in a trusted store, do not chase a super low price.

[Olga]

Olga, Kenwood can probably still be considered. But not this "Italian"! Refuse the order.

Kenwood has problems with buckets, hp is good, but buckets are leaking.

About plastic in Panasonic - just recently they gave a link to the description. In Panasonic, a scrapping unit is provided. That is, if the permissible load is exceeded, your engine will not burn out, but a knot that is easy and inexpensive to repair will break. Unlike replacing the engine. This is done in any decent technique. Here in the meat grinder, too, the screw is connected to the engine through a plastic piece. If the permissible load is exceeded, this plastic piece breaks, and the meat grinder is intact. The engine is running. And in the Bosch planetary mixer in the cube cutter, the same thing is provided.



I found a link Plastic part in Panasonic bread maker.

Girls, but there is a proven store where someone recently bought. In the network, such as MVideo and Intmagazinans, the price range is 2-3 thousand rubles.

[Olga]

Olga, and you would also choose another store. I began to look for reviews about him. So on one forum about this store in one day as many as 12 reviews. All from newbies who have been on the forum for just one review. And the interval between messages is a few minutes - the time for registration and typing. The following reviews are not so frequent. But all the same - only beginners, only registered for this review. And the reviews are just an ode to this store.

[Olga]

Olga, I buy equipment in Ozone, m-video, Eldorado, well, there are a couple of large stores, I don’t remember now.

There was a promotion in Mvideo until May 15, while I was choosing a model by reading the forum, it ended

well, at least the same refrigerator. ru, player. ru, although I do not like him. But they have been around for a long time. About this bread-store - this is apparently a reborn bread machine24 store, which has already been lit up throughout the Russian-speaking Internet. Therefore, they have to change their clothes from time to time. Well, the name of the bread machine also needs to be changed from time to time. There was Berardi, now Bernoti.

[Anna]

Anna, I bought py in the player a couple of times, but the reviews about it are not very good, I would not buy expensive equipment there, but a refrigerator and a shop.

[Svetlana]

Olga, you can track promotions in different stores. Maybe where there will be another action. But in this store it is better not to take anything at all. God forbid, the marriage will fall, then you will not receive either warranty service or a refund. And a marriage can be caught by any manufacturer. The marriage rate, although low, is not zero.



Svetlana, so I wrote that I don't like the player. But it's better than this bread-store. The player has existed for a long time. And it is unlikely to evaporate. You can also see yulmart.

Panasonic also has a branded store eplaza.panasonic, but the prices there are often more expensive.

[Anchic]

Anchic, so he told me that recently a whole batch of Panasiks was rejected at the service center.

[Olga]

Olga, and who is he, this store is generally left, I say, check and order Panasonic from them, it will not be.



Personally, I have not heard a single comment about a defective batch here, but they would definitely appear on the bread maker.



Here we have all the very first news.

[Thumbelina]

ThumbelinaFirst of all, remember, Panasonic bread maker is for years, 5 years for sure, and people have been using them for more than 8 years. Should you look for the cheapest Panasonic bread maker? If you also consider that the price is often charged off to display cases, damaged copies ...

Yes, Panasonic also began to fake more. The cheap price of Panasonic is now more alarming than pleasing. I would not advise looking for cheaper than the normal price, there are more chances to buy a good HP Panasonic.

I would not advise looking for cheaper than the normal price, there are more chances to buy a good HP Panasonic.

This is correct, and not only about Panasonic, I would not buy expensive equipment in unverified stores.



Remember how "you wouldn't be chasing cheapness, pop"

In general, I will buy in Mvideo, I'd better arrange an installment plan for six months.

And yet, on this forum there are people who really use different bread makers and you can trust the advice here. And in the store there are sellers who need to sell. Most often, they do not know how to bake at all and have no idea about bread.



Have a nice shopping!

[Thumbelina]

Anchic, so he told me that recently a whole batch of Panasiks was rejected at the service center.

Thumbelina, Olga, this only confirms my words that this is the left store that changed the skin. This is what they have been saying for years. And about the fact that Panasonic used to be made of metal, but now plastic and they break. You read above the link that I gave - there, precisely because of the exact same question, this answer appeared. Just a few months ago. That's why I remembered that there was a feeling of deja vu.

About plastic in Panasonic - just recently they gave a link to the description.

Yes! And more than once newcomers have this question ...
But I'm wondering ~ who said that plastic is worse than metal in terms of strength, endurance, "fatigue" ...
Why and why are people so afraid of plastic? This is a myth.

I trust Ozon, Yulmart. All the appliances in the house from there, right down to the dishwasher. Returns are guaranteed in case of defects. Ozone is generally a pleasure to deal with. I came across, returned the steam generator inoperative (no questions asked)))

[Thumbelina]

Thumbelina, Olya, in Mvideo you can try to use "Found cheaper - lower the price".
I also bought my Panasik in Mvideo.
Happy shopping!

[Thumbelina]

Thumbelina, in this bread-store I tried to buy a panasik, I even ordered it, but they called me back and said that it would not work, something about a defective batch, etc. This is really a scam!
As a result, I bought an M-video on sale.

Girls this is VERY URGENT !!!!
I bake pies for my beloved husband, but I didn't leave eggs for lubrication !!!!!!
Netuti in the house ... it happened!
How to lubricate to brown the top ?? / Tea, milk, sour cream, butter ...... kerosene, bitumen ..... aaa

[mamusi]

mamusi, I dissolve a little sugar in milk and grease with it.

[Sedne]

Sedne, Sveta, you are my Heroine, thank you !!!!



And then I'm like a pionErka

I am lost with excitement when my husband comes from a flight!

[Ritochka]

Ritochka, my grandmother (the kingdom of heaven) smeared with strong sweet tea, there will be "tanned-tanned" True, she had stone baked goods, she was from the peasants, she did not report butter and eggs from economy, well, etc., but she poured soda - mom do not be sad. From the same savings, so as not to waste the egg - smeared with tea

[Mandraik Ludmila]

Mandraik Ludmila,: lol: Lud, I have already zababahala one batch of milk with sugar, stand in the oven ... They are onions and eggs ... I also like to sprinkle sesame seeds on top ...
Your option (babusin) me too

Here they are Handsome.

Dough from Anise.
Mixes up in Panasika. I did it on the Basic Dough mode. I didn't put it in the refrigerator, I baked it right away.

Yeast dough universal ("All-purpose Sweet Dough") Peter Reinhart # 504

Oh yes, the bread is baked, well, one cannot say that I am 100% satisfied with myself, I would like to be "smokier", but I think with the predominance of whole grain over first grade flour, even on a dietary regime, this can hardly be achieved, though ..
Loaf:


Incision:

Program "Diet with raisins" - 5 hours
1h l. yeast SAF-levure
250g C. Z. flour
150gr. flour 1 grade
1 st. flaxseed semi-fatty flour
0.5 st. l. flax seed
1 st. l. sesame oil
1 st. l. cane sugar
1 tsp Gremolate salts

Cooking salt "dry gremolata" (Admin)

Here's a link to this wonderful dough, useful for beginners! It's worth it.

All-purpose Sweet Dough Peter Reinhart (Anise)

[Buttercup]

Buttercupwhat kind of bread did you get

Rita, I froze half of the bread according to your recipe. Yesterday I pulled out a couple of pieces ... Rita, it's delicious for me

I didn't understand why I was "showing off"

Something I like more and more bread with whole grain flour, matured ...matured ... or something
Girls, thank you for the attraction to healthy bread

Something I like more and more bread with whole grain flour

Natasha, I agree with you. I realized that with a GOOD c. h. delicious bread turns out. I used to try to find options for rye, but now c. h. more likely. For a change, I bake both, of course. I'm looking all the time

Rita, I froze half of the bread according to your recipe. Yesterday I pulled out a couple of pieces ... Rita, it's delicious for me

Thank you Natasha!)
So it's time to draw up the recipe, since the Moderator has already approved it! (Natasha, is this the one "With the world on a string" with seeds and sesame seeds?)))

with a GOOD c. h. delicious bread turns out.

+1
Even in Fugaskin Darnitskiy, I began to use premium flour or the first one to slightly unleash wheat, well, rye 150 as according to the recipe. I really like the taste of mueya French thing in bread

So it's time to draw up the recipe, since the Moderator has already approved it!

It is high time to issue the recipe. But not at all because of me. Well, I'm the same person as everyone else, and the moderator's right to "poke around in other people's messages" does not affect taste preferences

(Natasha, is this the one "With the world on a string" with seeds and sesame seeds?)))

Yes, that Only I did without sesame and would have done without seeds, you can probably fix them as options in the recipe

Even in Fugaskin Darnitskiy, I began to use the premium flour or the first one to slightly unleash wheat

And I added whole grain rye instead of simple rye to Fugaskin, I also liked it
But the husband - no

Not "matured" yet

I realized that with a GOOD c. h. delicious bread turns out. I used to try to find options for rye, but now c. h. more likely. For a change, I bake both, of course. I'm looking all the time

Direct scenario According to which everything happens for me Also I like it more with whole grain additives.

[mamusi]

Here's a link to this wonderful dough, useful for beginners! It's worth it.

All-purpose Sweet Dough Peter Reinhart (Anise)

mamusi, Thank you. How on time. And I just think that everyone is preparing so many goodies here. And I train on bread all the time. Time to try something else

I practice everything on bread. Time to try something else

That's right!) And this dough will settle with you, you'll see! I most often bake pies and pies from it, and often Pizza. Simple, not greasy, but delicious!