Wit
Mandraik Ludmila
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Mandraik Ludmila
It appears that she baked 2 breads for the guests, on the night from Friday to Saturday I put rye like Westphalian, I did it well last time, this time I did the same thing, but I have new yeast Dr. Oberman, I poured it like in the recipe 2h. l., as now I understand it was necessary one. Result
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But at the same time it is drier than last time, and in the fallen middle it is not too dense, in general it is delicious - to be stunned, but the vidocq is still the same
Then she baked in the French mode according to the "French" recipe from the instructions. The last time I had birch sap instead of water (natural, we collected them ourselves), now, naturally, I didn't make any sap on water and reduced the yeast to 0.75 hours. l. Since I did it during the day, after the last kneading with scissors I cut the top, there were already such bubbles, so I let out the excess carbon dioxide. As a result, it turned out like this, the first photo is right after the top, the second is the middle, you can see the trace from the scapula. In general, the bread in the pictures is poured, no one waited until it cooled down, they cut and broke it hot, because the roof is jammed with a knife and hands, and the cuts are not visible at all, they parted somehow in the process
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In general, roof incisions help to remove excess bubbles under the "roof". But the bread itself is lower than the previous one, and in my opinion more dense, so, Wit, I will not bake any more yeast according to the recipe with a whole 1 teaspoon
$ vetLana
Mandraik Ludmila, what is the shape of the rye. Think a lot of yeast?
I have not seen such a shape in bread
Mandraik Ludmila
Svetlana, then he stood and fell during the baking process, so that this would not be necessary either to reduce the standing time or to reduce the yeast. It is not possible to decrease the time in the program, only if in the manual version. My mistake is this: I filled up new yeast for me, not used before, unknown in my work yeast for the night, but I had to look behind the proofing, rye dough should not rise more than 1.5 times in the proofing, but here you can see around the edges , which rose much higher, so the bread of its own weight could not bear it. I didn't have this on Saf-Levure. All other ingredients are the same and in the same proportions as last, decent time.
Thumbelina
Tomorrow I will finally unpack my Panasik
Everything is ready and I bought flour and pumped up recipes.
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Tomorrow I will finally unpack my Panasik

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Dr. Oberman's yeast
I never baked with them.
Mandraik Ludmila
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Dr. Otkerman yeast
I never baked with them.
So I bought it for the first time for trial, they turned out to be fast and strong, that's why it happened
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Mandraik Ludmila, today I went to Netto to look at flour. 1 grade Limak is on sale (I remember you said about her that she is in this magician). Date - December 16. I decided not to buy it if it is almost 6 months old. the magician does not lie.
Mandraik Ludmila
Svetlana, but I took it without looking, and I already ran out of it So I don't know anything about the date, but yesterday my son bought, at my request, two packages of 1 grade LIMAC in Prism, I'll come to the city to see the date, I'm curious now
Thumbelina
I started weighing, the scales did not work, the children were playing !!!
Which one to choose which would be more reliable? Who uses what?
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Thumbelina, I - Ikeevsky
Lera-7
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Which one to choose which would be more reliable?
I have had CASO K3 for a year and a half, the only drawback is that they turn off in less than a minute. Here Miranda also reviewed the UNIT UBS-2153 scales

UNIT UBS-2153 KITCHEN SCALE OVERVIEW
Sedne
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the only negative is that they turn off in less than a minute.
For me, this is the most important (well, or almost the most important, it is more important only when the scales lie) minus the scales.
Wit
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For me, this is the most important (well, or almost the most important, it is more important only when the scales lie) minus the scales.
Yes you? : pard: I need to check after how many times they turn off. I weigh flour, then yeast. When flour is weighed, the readings change with each spoon. And the countdown of this minute starts from the beginning of the state of rest. I'll tell you more. When switching from one flour to another (wheat + rye), while I close one can, take out and open the second, I turn OFF the scales myself. What for? Well, I don’t know Libra was bought about 5 years ago and since then I haven’t changed the battery.
Lera-7
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For me, this is the most important (well, or almost the most important, it is more important only when the scales lie) minus the scales.
So it sometimes really annoys me.
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The scales were bought about 5 years ago and have not changed the battery since then
What scales do you have?
Wit
some Bredber. I took a share in some IM steering wheels for 300.
Sedne
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Yes you? I need to check after how many times they turn off
Yes, for me the main disadvantage, I did not have time to weigh the flour on such, as they turned off, threw them out, well, that is, I did not have caso, but also with a shutdown. They pissed me off terribly.
Lera-7
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I didn't have time to weigh the flour on such, as they turned off
The Tanita KD-321 scales have a shutdown after 10 minutes. It's a pity that I came across this scale after purchasing CASO.
Sedne
Svetlana, I know, I already bought them) I say I threw out the old ones, bought others, about a year ago
gala10
My scale, like Vit's, doesn't turn off quickly. They were presented to me about 8 years ago, I also haven't changed the battery yet. Gorenje KT 05 NB
Lera-7
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already bought them)
Svetlanaand how are they really good?

Thumbelina
I bought a Polaris scale at METRO, the screen is on for 2 minutes while waiting. Put the first bread on program 12 with whole grain flour. I took the recipe from Seleznev's book. Waiting
Sedne
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Svetlana, how are they really good?
yes, now I have time to weigh flour
mamusi
People!
Maybe I'll tell you funny right now ...
When I tried to weigh the flour, immediately SOWING it into the bucket, then my scales turned off and also pissed me off ...
But! Then I began to act more cunningly and have been doing this for 3 years (!)
I have a square container with a spoon and a "sieve mug" next to the flour container (stationary set)

I ~ the container on the scales, I put the flour next to it and IMMEDIATELY weigh all the flour I need, rye, wheat ~ so quickly that my scales don't even have time to chuckle!
Then yeast, and already in the bucket sift over yeast weighted flour. Calmly, without nerves and WITHOUT the participation of scales. And they became such Little Paws! Such Krasivulechki!))) Here are hanging! The battery was changed once in 3 years.
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Scarlet are called.)))
Thumbelina
Is this the norm when the lid of the loaf is flat? Baked on program 2 according to the recipe from the book from the stove. Previously, low-yeast did not bake.
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And I also want to note that, unlike LG, Panasonic bakes better, a loaf with a dry crust (crackles) when you take it out of the bucket, but before it was always soft.
Sedne
Olga, no, just a lot of water, reduce the liquid next time or add flour.
Thumbelina
Svetlana, yes, like a bun was normal, taking into account that 20% of wallpaper flour, maybe there is not enough yeast? It will cool down, cut it and everything will become clear. Anyway, thanks next time I'll take this into account.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Thumbelina
maybe there is not enough yeast?
Thumbelina, no, this water is too much, like Sedne wrote.
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20% wallpaper flour
rye wallpaper?
Thumbelina
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rye wallpaper?
Yes, sort of like wheat judging by its color. I bought it by weight in a Healthy Lifestyle.
Cut

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Mandraik Ludmila
My rye falls through so much if it stops ... but it is heavy by definition.




Thumbelina, here at Admin, everything is described in great detail:
The bread rises, but falls inward. Causes.
Mandraik Ludmila
Nobody wrote anything for a long time.
Natasha, I baked tomato bread here, thanks for the recipe! It turned out well, soft, rubbery, the color is very beautiful, tasty, but you won't bake every day - it will become boring. Here rye and French are not boring, but this one - sometimes to indulge ...
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But the cutter, the cheese was parmesan so in pieces and remained:
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mamusi
Lyudmila, you are pretty fluffy!
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I have one like this, but on Tang-Zhong tea leaves. It turned out very well. The beauty of bread from V. from. not to distinguish.
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Mandraik Ludmila
I could not resist, I will show you a photo, the tomato cut a half into quarters and such a beautiful cut
And the color, of course, is especially clearly visible in contrast with the green substrate.
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mamusi
Buttercup, Luda, beautiful cut. Tomato bread was colored. Taste, tell me, also with a tomato flavor?
Mandraik Ludmila
mamusi, yes, there is a slight tomato flavor, apart from tomato juice, I used just such a "weight" as dried tomatoes
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I took 20g and didn't put salt at all, because the dried tomatoes are hefty salty




Moreover, the cheese - Parmesan, apparently - did not get ramazed during kneading, but remained in pieces and during baking, dropping left behind such "moves" -holes - beautifully-oh-oh. I would say it is prettier than tastier. Tasty, but you won't eat it every day - it gets boring quickly
Thumbelina
I put French on a book from the stove, all through the scales, the bun is soft, added a spoonful of flour, but still a little, not quite elastic but does not stick. I was surprised that there was no sugar in the recipe, in LG this recipe was with sugar and no butter. Flour, Makfa.
Sedne
Olga, usually there is no sugar in French.
Mandraik Ludmila
Olga, no need to add anything, there is a very tender dough, I bake exactly according to the recipe it turns out - mortality. And no sugar, it tastes like this. The taste of "French bread"
mamusi
And I really like to do Natasha's Daily in French, then yeast 4 g pressed and 1 tsp sugar.
Thumbelina
Svetlana, but what about the kolobok, I read Admin, now I check it all the time, not trusting the book. I never looked in the old stove.
And the fact that there is no sugar is good, otherwise there used to be a sugary taste. And in general I want to say that the oven is very different, I'm not really overjoyed, it just bakes different bread.
Thanks for the help!!!
Mandraik Ludmila
Olga, it is in this bread that the classic bun is not obtained! Don't worry, everything will work out, I was surprised the same when I did it for the first time, but the result exceeded all expectations
Thumbelina
Ludmila, Thank you
Wit
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I never looked in the old stove.
I don't even look in this stove when I bake "everyday" (for two days). I put it on at night and go to sleep.
Thumbelina
The bread is baked !!! It is something!!! The life time of a loaf after cooling is about 5-7 minutes for two adults and two children under 14 years old.
She poured olive oil into a saucer, there sea salt through the mill and a mixture of peppers through the mill.
I bet in the morning again
Mandraik Ludmila
Wit, this is our "rudiment" left over from the previous ovens, there was an "eye and eye" for baking, but here it is true what has already been tested - I put it without looking




Olga, yes you can and without oil flies away instantly! As I understand it, it didn't come to the pictures
mamusi
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I put it on at night and go to sleep.
Wit, are you betting on Basic with a delay or on French?
Wit
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Wit, you bet on Main

On the Main! French somehow didn't work. Let the French eat it
Mirabel
Mandraik Ludmila, sooo beautiful bread! but the recipe was not found ...

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