Waist
Quote: mamusi
I bake it every 2 days
Rita, who are you baking? Fugaskin ??
mamusi
Quote: Waist
Fugaskin
Yes, including. I have. The menu is strict: your daily, Fugaskin Darnitsky ... and the rest are favorites according to your mood. Now I fell in love with my fantasy one with oatmeal, which I showed here.




Who comes to visit me ~ already know my "set of bread" and often cut it off with me ... My son carries Lunch with him to work. The bread is sold out.




Waist, Natasha, I understand you. Fixed it there.
Waist
Quote: mamusi
Now fell in love with my fancy oatmeal
What a wonderful name "fancy oatmeal"
And I realized that I only like with shades of tastes ... with light tastes. The other day I baked Fugaskin with whole grain rye and dry garlic, I really liked it, both the texture and the light aroma of garlic

Wlad
Quote: Waist
and light garlic aroma
... it's just awful delicious
mamusi
I haven't baked with garlic yet ... I can't get myself together. I want to do ... something like that ... Maybe this weekend. I threw bread in the bookmarks, but I bake the same thing. Natasha, I already know yours by heart, my hands are pouring everything.



Quote: Waist
What a wonderful name "fancy oatmeal"
Natasha, this is because when I posted the recipe for "Bread with the world on a string" here, for all of you ... it was with seeds and sesame seeds! And I promised to finalize it. But in fact ... it’s not so hot with seeds for me. And I end up baking WITHOUT them ~ I just pour more of Hercules ... ... And he became "fancy"What I dream up, I put it in! But I keep the proportions ...
Chiribim
I don't need it harder, I need it easier
And I also call all breads with the addition of rye flour - rye. Even though it's wrong.
The taste suits me, in general. how mamusi she said rightly - dark, malty aroma, good taste, as if not a gourmet, everything suits me.
The appearance does not suit me, I notice in this appearance the signs of a baker's undercooking. He (bread, not a baker) is mechanical, flat, not raised enough, etc. I want beautiful, even if by the standards of a breadmaker, not on the hearth, but nevertheless.
mamusi
ChiribimSo take and bake
Darnitsa bread from fugaska
But add 1 spoonful of dry malt. And that's it!) To begin with.
Quote: Sedne
Don't you brew it?
In Darnitsky bread - no!
In Borodinsky, yes.
Irinkanur
Quote: Waist
The other day I baked Fugaskin with whole grain rye and dry garlic, I really liked it, both the texture and the light aroma of garlic
And today I baked it, I also added dried garlic and dill. It turned out so fragrant
Wit
I recommend trying a teaspoon or two of ground coffee. NOT SOLUBLE, but ground. We liked.
$ vetLana
And I baked bread with cocoa according to Masha ShuMakher's recipe. Interesting taste. If anyone wants to try, here it is
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Rye-wheat bread with cocoa and seed mix
(ShuMakher)
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: mamusi
Kyud, why should she start with Rye as a newcomer?
To be disappointed?
Ritochka, well, firstly, I myself, for example, started with pure rye, and for me rye is exactly rye I am always surprised when I read the name - rye bread, and the recipe contains wheat flour Chiribim wrote at the beginning that the doctor forbade her wheat flour, as I understand it, health problems are close to mine, that is, fast carbohydrates are prohibited, so I'm trying to offer proven recipes
gala10, yes, my Bouquet liked the same, but the third time they told me to remove the buckwheat flour, and I replaced it with rye flour in the same amount. The quality of the lift was practically not affected.
mamusi
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
trying to offer proven recipes
Yes, you're trying right, Lyudochka!)
We are all at once and rush to help. I just wanted to say that when asking for Rye bread, people do not always mean pure rye bread. And that it may not live up to expectations, since it is difficult (without store additives) to raise it.
Chiribim
Mandraik Ludmilawe will break through
Wheat flour is possible, but not white, but whole grain, it has a lower glycemic index. Well, do not burst wagons
Therefore, many recipes do not work out very well for me - I replace white with whole grain, and it, of course, has different properties, and it is not replaced with a snap.
And I also bake my pseudo-rye with CZ.
Olesya
Girls, hello! Tell me, will the Panasonic SD 2511 bread maker cope with kneading dough for 700 g of flour?
Sedne
I can boast, I baked 1 time on sourdough without yeast at all, on dumplings kneading + French (next time I’ll put a delay in front of the French for 1 hour, I just didn’t have enough time for proving, a very small crack, on the side, but the truth is handsome, but not that tall, like with a little yeast, but still beautiful, until I cut it, just pulled it out.
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)
According to this recipe
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Sourdough milk bread
(klera1563)
mamusi
Sedne, Sveta, Handsome Bread!
Tell us about the taste later.
The crack gives ... home comfort!
$ vetLana
Olesya, I will express my opinion: is it worth the risk?
If you still dare, maybe with a comb?
Wait, the girls will tell you who makes the dough.
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: Olesya
bread maker Panasonic SD 2511, will it cope with kneading dough for 700 g of flour?
I have not tried and do not plan, I simply have nowhere to put such portions
Chiribim
Olesya, I tried to start in 2502 for 700 grams of flour. Both Easter cake and butter dough by Richard Bertinet. I interfered normally, even without the strain. If sclerosis does not change me, the instructions say - 700 grams maximum, and the butter dough is not dumplings.

My buns are swept away, even for 2 kilos of baked flour 😄, this whole grain is not popular. I chew one.
Anna1957
Chiribim, (what is your name, by the way?), and you try to disguise the flour in the central zone - I managed to do it with cocoa. Add stevioside - here's your chocolate bun. I even made a cake from this
And rye (although it is half-and-half) my favorite is this
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Sourdough rye-wheat bread.
(irga)

It tastes the same as in Soviet times it was 12 kopecks. In St. Petersburg, Rye Bread House is the closest to his taste. But it turns out only with sourdough. Mine rested in Bose, but I will not start a new one. So I eat the purchased one.
Olesya
Thank you girls for the answers! Chiribim, in my recipe book, which is for the bread maker, there are all recipes for no more than 600 g of flour .. probably not worth the risk
Waist
Quote: Olesya
Tell me, will the Panasonic SD 2511 bread maker cope with kneading dough for 700 g of flour?
It will cope if you make a soft melting dough, that is, so that it gathers in a bun by the end of the batch, but does not stand in a stake, but slowly spreads out in shape.
In the instructions, the maximum for our stove is indicated - this is 600 grams of flour.
Therefore, it would be better to count the recipe for a smaller amount - the stove will serve you longer.
Quote: $ vetLana
If you still dare, maybe with a comb?
No, you can't use a comb for baking. Dough comb with a minimum of gluten, for rye flour and the like.
Wit
Do not forget about the part configured for "guaranteed scrapping". With a load exceeding the permissible, this part will crunch, so that the engine does not burn out. No need to be greedy and lazy. Re-calculate the recipe.
Quote: Waist
I mean this part made of carbolite plastic.

Problems and breakdowns of Panasonic bread makers. # 1863
Yes, it's her!
Chiribim
Anna1957, my name is Irina with cocoa I'll try. It's not that I dreamed of torturing the CH with flour at home, but still it is more useful. Well, or less harmful.

Waist, Wit, damn. So I got it wrong. You need to be more attentive to the instructions.
Of course, it is better not to give more load than is projected.
Anna1957
Quote: Chiribim
Not that I dreamed of torturing CH with flour at home, but still it is more useful. Well, or less harmful.
No way to torture. Food should be a pleasure.And to disguise as a familiar taste using all sorts of tricks is a noble task from the standpoint of minimizing harmfulness.
Marisha Aleksevna
Quote: Olesya
Tell me, the Panasonic SD 2511 bread maker will cope with mixing dough for 700 g of flour
Olesya, I bake wheat-rye bread on tomato juice with cucumber pickle, so there is only 680 g of flour - it is kneaded and baked normally, I was afraid that there was a lot of flour, but so far everything is in order.
Sedne
Quote: mamusi
Svetul, and, Svetul, where are you with the results?
Are you quietly eating some bread? And us?)))
No, tomorrow I'll cut it, I usually only eat bread the next day
Quote: mamusi

Sedne, Okay, wait!
(You are patient ...)
Well, yes, I can endure if there was still bread left, most often there are leftovers, but when there is no bread, then I cut and eat earlier, but not warm, of course, but as it cools.




Here is my bread
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)

Quote: mamusi
Sedne, Sveta, good holes, for the starter he is a Fluffy!))
Well, why do you need yeast here then!
Excellent result .. And the smell! ~ imagine!
mamusi, Rit, yes, very tasty bread, and really soft, as I like, a year ago (though I had a different sourdough) on pure sourdough it turned out sour and hard, but here it is soft and without sourness, as I like, this recipe is really good. I'll try next time on whey and add a little milk powder.




And the main thing is that what was done was calculated on the automatic program.
Quote: mamusi

mamusi
I once baked with sourdough in the Omelkin lace oven!)
Bread makers Panasonic SD-2500, SD-2501, SD-2502, SD-2510, SD-2511, SD-2512 ... (4)Wheat bread "Lacy" with sourdough
(Omela)


It was a fairy tale. There is my report... This is rare for me, because I always baked only half-baked ones. And then she could not resist and ... overfeed a little Eternal leaven in wheat during the night, and in the morning she began to bake. The aroma and taste of bread! .. Ah!
Mandraik Ludmila
Svetlana, beauty!
Waist
Sedne, Svetik, please take the report to the author. The bread is wonderful !!! And there please indicate in which stove you baked
Sedne
Natalia, so I baked in Panasonic, like the author But I will take the report of course
gala10
Quote: Sedne
Here is my bread
Wah-wah-wah ... Gorgeous bread.
Waist
Shine, I’m looking at different recipes and often confusion turns out that it is baked in HP, but in which Bread Makers are different and bake very differently. Just by reading the report, people will be more confident in using your experience and will not ask again after a few pages where you baked it. I only ask for such reasons to clarify a little

Quote: Chiribim
my name is Irina
Ira, and write this in your profile, then your real name will be displayed under the avatar Very convenient for communication!




PREVENTION for a bread machine:
I want to remind everyone of a simple prevention for the stability of the bread machine on the surface: Take care of its legs. Panasonic bread machines (I do not know about others) have rubber feet with a protector. Over time, natural debris (dust, crumbs ...) is clogged into the protector, therefore it is periodically necessary to wipe the legs with a damp cloth from below to remove dirt and restore the natural adhesion of rubber to surfaces.

If your HP began to shift when mixing / working is already serious signal to action - URGENTLY need to clean the surface of the legs... Adding debris reduces the manufacturer's intended grip of the HP rubber feet with different surfaces.
Pay attention to your appliances and they will serve you for a long time

Wit
Well done, Natasha! : rose: I read about it here. And I noticed earlier that although the HP does not crawl, it stands with a slight bias. I rubbed my legs and now the stove is standing like a glove!
84taly
Hello good people! Please tell me, well, I just can't decide. Need this yeast dispenser or not !!! There was no HB. I rush between 2511 and 2512. Looked at the comparison table. The only difference is in the body material and the yeast dispenser. I read that he makes a noise, that's okay. But is he needed and is it comfortable with him? Or is yeast in a bowl better? Or poke into a topic where this has already been discussed.
P. S. I also understood from what I read that it is convenient for a delayed start, but maybe this is still an extra twist?
Waist
84talyMany people do well without a yeast dispenser, and even with one, the yeast is poured directly into the bucket, and the bread always turns out great.

That is, you can buy 2511 - it is calculated by the manufacturer that the yeast will be in the bucket.

2512 is slightly modified (we cannot see it) and it is taken into account that yeast will be served at a certain moment from the dispenser. So in 2512 it should be

Consider not only your attitude to the click of the dispenser, but also the attitude of your family, because the bread-bread will be at home, in the family.

In any case, buy whatever model you like best. Dispenser or not, each model is self-contained. In each model, everything is balanced and set to make great bread!

Have a nice shopping !!!
Wit
84taly, I want to warn you that our moderator Natasha-Waist very tactful, benevolent and diplomatic person. I declare with all frankness that you do not need a yeast dispenser at all !!! Take 2511, and with the money saved (more precisely, not thrown into the wind) money, buy yourself a che-string of tasty or electronic scales. Here they will be extremely necessary for you! Good luck to you!
Waist
Quote: Wit
Take 2511, and for the money saved (more precisely, not thrown away) money buy yourself a thread of delicious or electronic balance. Here they will be extremely necessary for you!
That's right! Electronic SCALES are a must, as an integral accessory for a bread machine
Vital !
mamusi
Wit,
A specific and comprehensive answer!)))

+1
Mandraik Ludmila
84taly, more recently, 2 weeks after I bought 2511, I took it because of the lack of an extra, for me personally, a dispenser. In general, the first thing in any technique that breaks down is what moves, that is, roughly speaking, in our case - the engine and dispensers, the fewer moving parts, the fewer breakdowns, well, this is my purely practical view of things If there were modern models without dispensers at all, I I would have chosen just such a model, but Panasik now has no such models.
mamusi
Luda, and 2500?
fffuntic
Natasha, you just write like this 2512 changed, because you have it. But where did you get the idea that 2511 is also the newest, not the same as 2512. Why don't you think that the strengthening of modes is not simply related to updating the model in principle?
It wouldn't hurt to ask the owners of 2511 for the number of strokes.

Ay, owners 2511, be nice, just follow the Main Program once. How many exercises do you have there? two or three?

but about the dispenser ...

see for yourself.
It is not recommended to leave wet yeast in the air. They dry out and lose their lift.
Dry yeast for the most part is the same: it is afraid of heat and oxygen.
This is how things stand.

It is theoretically correct to search exclusively for yeast that can be exposed to air without problems for such a dispenser.
Otherwise, the bread may not rise.
But if you find such yeast, then you can use a dispenser.

About the benefits of the dispenser.
Yeast, simply put in flour, without contact with open air, feels great and thus can be stored for a long time any yeast. That is, using a dispenser is not necessary and in some cases worse than storing yeast in flour.

When can a dispenser be very beneficial?
When we do dances with tambourines with preliminary kneading on dumplings, that is, we invented standing. Then you can give the dispenser the opportunity to cast yeast only on the main program.
But taking into account the fact that when dancing with tambourines we spin around the stove, I don't see any particular advantage in the dispenser here either.

Therefore, the dispenser is really an unnecessary stray for today.
I do not see a single theoretical argument in its favor, if at all to act automatically according to the instructions.


84taly
Quote: Wit

84taly, I want to warn you that our moderator Natasha-Waist very tactful, benevolent and diplomatic person. I declare with all frankness that you do not need a yeast dispenser at all !!! Take 2511, and with the money saved (more precisely, not thrown into the wind) money, buy yourself a che-string of tasty or electronic scales. Here they will be extremely necessary for you! Good luck to you!
Thank you all for helping to decide! I just thought so, to buy scales with the saved money! Directly felt relief, wow !!!
fffuntic
I usually like to argue with Vitaly, but here I am completely in solidarity. Save money
Mandraik Ludmila
Quote: mamusi
Luda, a 2500
Ritochka, the cup cover is different there, but I wanted it as I bought it
Quote: fffuntic
Hey, owners of 2511, be nice, watch the Main Program just once. How many exercises do you have there? two or three?
fffuntic, I will bake, I will count, but if my memory serves, I’ve already baked three times, three times, but I’ll check exactly when I’ll bake on the main one ... the other day, while I have bread
Waist
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
Ritochka, the cup cover is different there, but I wanted it as I bought it
How is it different Absolutely the same! I had 2500.
fffuntic
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

2511, I took it due to the lack of an extra, for me personally, a dispenser.
and .. what have you suffered. The moving parts are there. The supplement dispenser does not open on all programs, only on its own.
And the additive dispenser is just fine until it breaks. And it does not always break, some are lucky.
Therefore, you have a very good model. Better only European




Quote: Mandraik Ludmila

Ritochka, the cup cover is different there, but I wanted it as I bought it fffuntic, I will bake, I will count, but if my memory serves, I’ve already baked three times, three times, but I’ll check exactly when I’ll bake on the main one ... the other day, while I have bread
yeah ... wooh Natalie
it’s not a dispenser, but a general update of the model. Strengthened they are the regime.

This, by the way, does not interfere with knowing. That the main mode, starting from 2511, has become a little different.

Luda, where did you get the idea that the cup is different at 2500? bowls the same with 257 models
Wit
Quote: Mandraik Ludmila
this is my purely practical view of things

This is the basics of designing and constructing technically complex products. I tell you as a constructor
fffuntic
Vital, well, the rocket is generally full of moving parts and it should not break
This is the job of a designer, technologist, and so on, to design these moving parts in such a way that the warranty period does not break

The fact that the dispenser is not finalized is a hack, and not all sorts of clever thoughts. Give the manufacturer a neck for this
Mandraik Ludmila
Waist, well, that means I didn’t figure it out, I read somewhere, I don’t remember where, I read so many things when I was looking and understood that it was not Teflon, but a "ceramic" coating only in 2511 and 2512
I didn't feel it myself
Quote: fffuntic
and .. what have you suffered
Lena, I don’t suffer, I enjoy the new stove, it’s so ... I envy myself, and wonder how I lived without it before ... Here is a technique that you add to your soul, my Panasik is like that for me
Wit, yes, I myself am a systems engineer by education

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