Kenwood Kitchen Machines

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But the most difficult thing is ahead - to make a table of cars.

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[kristi_l2002]

kristi_l2002, Sense is more expensive than KVC 3170, as their design has been innovated.
kristi_l2002, the blender fits all CMs.

Thank you!

nasty25, Kenwood KVL 6370 S Chef XL Elite is higher in class from your chosen one in many ways - stainless steel planetary socket attachments, more power and others. A bowl of 6.7 liters is not at all large, not only 2, but you will also knock down one protein (with KM Kevud, the nozzles fall almost to the bottom of the bowl), but more than 6 proteins will not work out (especially if you make protein-custard) - a blizzard on the kitchen will happen. And strangely, in Kiev on the off-site in the online store, this car is only 1 thousand more expensive than Sens. There are funds that allow - take it, there are all the attachments you need today for you.

and Chef XL KVL4170S Titanium is about the same as the KVL 6370 S Chef XL Elite only less powerful? (1200W instead of 1400W)

Now I have a dilemma, whether a whole KVC3100 with a meat grinder and a blender (by the way, will he make nut butter? Will it not break? Maybe someone has tried it already) If the nuts cannot grind to the paste, then I probably need a blender especially ...
or for the same cost KVL4170S - it has a blender and a meat grinder included.

But I'm not sure if I need such a big ...

I will sometimes make minced meat (for 3-4 people). Gingerbread dough .. also a little .. Well, I will make marshmallows ... I always take half, because I have enough for a couple of trays ... Macarons - also just for myself. .. I make mousse cakes for sale .. But nah a biscuit is needed a little, I have been doing it with a hand mixer for 2 years already ...

[kristi_l2002]

could you explain a little? What are all? I am interested in the low-speed socket and I do not want to buy an adapter ..

kristi_l2002 , into the low-speed socket for the KVC3100 and for the Sensors fit without adapters all the nozzles for this socket, starting with the designation CANand with AT only fit with an adapter.

Then why are the attachments of the KVC3100 chef the same as those of the sense, but the attachments from the chefs do not fit ..?

kristi_l2002, in modern CM Kenwood there are three drives, that is, three sockets for nozzles. The attachments for the planetary socket (this is what is in the bowl) are suitable exclusively for all, they are the same as for the previously released chefs (bowl 4.6 l) and majors (bowl 6.7 l). Almost all attachments for the fast-speed socket (which is on top) fit. Not suitable: the AT640 food processor is a very old release and newer than the AT647 and the AT960 citrus press - these attachments are for a medium-speed nest. When choosing, you need to be guided by the designation of the nozzle, it starts with CAN... On the low-speed socket (in the head in front) there are nozzles with the designation KAH without adapters and with AT with adapters.
By ice cream maker: to KM KVC3100 and others like them go with designations AT, the only difference is in the size of the bowls. To Sensei their ice cream makers designation KAV

and Chef XL KVL4170S Titanium is about the same as the KVL 6370 S Chef XL Elite only less powerful? (1200W instead of 1400W)

kristi_l2002, these are different classes of CM, the differences are significant - in the power and in the material of the attachments for the planetary socket and less significant in the structural "little things", these little things are good and make it easier to use the machine. And the dimensions are almost the same, only the weight is different. KVL4170S - dimensions 34.5x38.5x28.0, weight 7.6 kg. KVL 6370 - 35.6x38x28.5, weight 10 kg.
And the size of the bowl is your choice, you know your needs best. I would take a large one, who knows what may come in handy in the future. I will not say about the paste, I have not done it, and, in general, questions about the attachments are asked in the "Kenwood. Working with attachments" thread.

Thank you very much! Very informative!

[Miranda]

Miranda, bravo!

Added some information to the Directory

Tell me how to find out if the KVC 3100 has overheating protection?
I'm mostly interested in the high-speed nest (I still think about making nut butter and praline in a blender and now the question is whether or not to take this attachment)

[kristi_l2002]

Tell me how to find out if the KVC 3100 has overheating protection?
I'm mostly interested in the high-speed nest (I still think about making nut butter and praline in a blender, and now the question is whether or not to take this attachment)

kristi_l2002, in KM Kenwood the motor is protected from overheating by blowing the fan. Just turn on the CM and immediately blow from the hole in the right side on the back. And according to the instructions for the blender, it is allowed to work at a maximum speed of 1 minute (the knives are heated). There are knives for work with small volumes, there is also a mini-chopper AT320 in the attachment, in large ones - in KAH 647. This is my opinion.

[kristi_l2002]

kristi_l2002, in KM Kenwood the motor is protected from overheating by blowing the fan. Just turn on the CM and immediately blow from the hole in the right side on the back. And according to the instructions for the blender, it is allowed to work at a maximum speed of 1 minute (the knives are heated). There are knives for work with small volumes, there is also a mini-chopper AT320 in the attachment, in large ones - in KAH 647. This is my opinion.

Thank you, you're right .. In a blender, dense mass is probably a bad idea. I will not take it yet ..

[seven and a half]

Dear members of the forum, I am in a culture shock! Now I made a dough for cottage cheese-butter cookies, I didn't even wipe the cottage cheese and butter, the slightly melted butter lying on the table after the refrigerator, immediately into the bowl with cottage cheese, also not wiped, everything was well mixed with the flexi nozzle, I introduced flour with a wiping sieve, mixed with a hook , all the time seven and a half minutes! Although earlier everything was rubbed by hand through a regular sieve and it seemed like a torment, but now I made a double portion with 400 grams of cottage cheese and the same amount of butter!

[Weight, kg 57 !!!!]

How much does the car weigh in the package?
And then something by track number Weight, kg 57 !!!! Volume, m3 0.29
What is so much? It seems like they said that a kilogram of 30 should be

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, lathing probably.

Here is the box. And the car weighs, it seems, 13 kg

I'm at a loss for something. They called from PEC - they said that delivery to the entrance
It turns out I myself have to drag 57 kilos into the elevator? And where should I inspect the car?
some kind of tin
Technoshock delivered me a drying machine at one time to the apartment free of charge, despite its size and cost of 27,000
And then 57 kilos and drag yourself

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, call Kenwood on the mountains. line.
There was already a case when the delivery service wanted money for delivery and pickup. The call helped.

[Operator - Unfortunately, the lift is paid separately]

call Kenwood on the mountains. line.
There was already a case when the delivery service wanted money for delivery and pickup. The call helped.

Posted in chat.

I - they just called me from PEC they said that before the entrance, you can somehow clarify this issue with them?
Operator - Unfortunately, the lift is paid separately
I - is it only for PEC? I just don't understand where I should inspect the car? I can't sign for the receipt without seeing that the goods are in stock and integrity, therefore I will have to unpack the car
Operator - In any T / C the lift is agreed with the recipient. The cargo must be in undamaged packaging (no mechanical damage). You are given a week to check the quality of the goods.

I - I understand that perfectly. but you also understand me. Should I remove the unpacking on video? ) Usually, in the case of ordering any household appliances, I signed the invoices only after inspecting the equipment, but they delivered their delivery services there. That's why I had questions

Operator - Upon receipt, take a picture of the package that it is not opened and not damaged.

I - Okay, but skidding? Is this the case for all transport companies?

Operator - Yes

Call 8 (800) 200-95-27?
Or the main Kenwood site?

Call 8 (800) 200-95-27?
Or the main Kenwood site?

I don't remember which person called here.But they are sitting in the same office, in a sense, in the same building.

I don't remember which person called here. But they are sitting in the same office, in a sense, in the same building.

It's strange. Called KenwoodWorld and sent to the shop. I called there again about the fact that home delivery
In addition, either they were incompetent or they lied, they said that an extended guarantor in 5 years is available without registration
Although the site -

To participate in the program, you must register your product. Click Participate to obtain your certification as a program member.

What a mess?
If I still manage to climb, why do they say that the extended warranty for 5 years is automatically connected? This is a seal

Why is it said that the extended warranty for 5 years is automatically connected? This is a seal

I think it’s not true. I registered on the site, entered the car number and only then they sent me a personal certificate for 5 years. It contains my car number.
You, after all, buy on cookies?
They not only brought me into the apartment, but the courier helped me to unpack, inspect, even suggested something

You, after all, buy on cookies?

Yes. Will they tell you then, too, to the house delivered? And which transport company?

By the way, they also brought me 096 before the entrance!

By the way, they also brought me 096 before the entrance!

OK. I just would like to be informed about this in advance at the time of ordering, so that the client does not think the day before the delivery of the car, whether he needs movers or he and his friends will carry it to the elevator
Well, another question.
Do you send an electronic check for purchase by installments by mail?

Will they tell you then, too, to the house delivered? And which transport company?

Well no. I told you they brought it into the apartment and helped to unpack it.
And what company, I don't know. I just indicated the address when placing the order and agreed to pay by card.
And I made out the guarantee later, when I found out about it on the bread maker
P. S. I don't think she weighs 57 kg. Maybe together with attachments that are in separate boxes? 13 kg + cardboard. It is quite possible to convey to the elevator, only inconvenient, because the box is large.

P. S. I don't think she weighs 57 kg. Maybe together with attachments that are in separate boxes? 13 kg + cardboard. It is quite possible to convey to the elevator, only inconvenient, because the box is large.

57 it's in the crate
The box itself is 38 kg
I will report it. I just found out in advance so as not to fuss when the delivery arrives
It's just that if there was no payment then they are delivered by CDEK. If there was something for some reason, PEC, but on the site there is not a word about it
And as taught by ZoZPP, I lay straw so that if anything you could land softly
All the same. The car is not cheap, but I myself had a case when, during a remote sale in another city, an MTS manager opened an unopened box in front of me with an unopened box with a Note5 phone that had no mechanical damage and the phone had a leaking screen right out of the box

They brought me a car to the entrance, called: to take me upstairs for 350 rubles, then called Kenwood BT, they said that there was really a separate fee for this. Well, what could I do, I paid, I alone would not have raised it.

In addition, either they were incompetent or they lied, they said that an extended guarantor in 5 years is available without registration

They didn't lie. From a certain point, even without registration, the induction warranty is 5 years by default. That is, if you want - register. But if you haven't registered, everything will be fine at the service center, a receipt is enough.

The program was made earlier, and the old text hangs there, they did not fix it. Just as the text on the banner about the installment plan was not corrected - there are from 5200 per month, although already from 5499 per month. Well, at least the installment page was fixed. And the text in the attachments was not corrected, even for the scales it was written that an adapter was needed.

Unfortunately, this is some kind of inattention.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the car. However, as well as to service centers.Judging by the reviews here, in the service they change something without problems and do not delay for a maximum of 45 days, like other services.

In November, a car was delivered to my apartment in the Moscow region. Also a transport company (I did not remember the name), they did not even mention the surcharge from the entrance. Here, it seems, how lucky.
But, by the way, I don't have a check as such, only checks on loan repayment. Need something to attend to?

Unfortunately, this is some kind of inattention.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the car.

I'll hope
The car was brought in in the morning. No crate, but the box is not dented. I took it out of the box and went to work. Let it warm
I'll test in the evening
No matter what to wash the attachments for the first time? Can you go to PMM right away?

[animegravitation]

animegravitation, Congratulations!
Not all attachments can be washed in the PM. Everything is written in the instructions.

They offer for not expensive kenwood km010, but the car works only at maximum speed. Is it worth contacting what could fly, can it be repaired and how much will it cost?

They offer for not expensive kenwood km010, but the car works only at maximum speed. Is it worth contacting what could fly, can it be repaired and how much will it cost?

Apparently the speed regulator. Since if it works, then the engine is alive. But in which place the electronics flew is unknown and what is the price of the board is also not clear
If I were you, I would ask you to open the car. To make sure what happened to the short circuit and what is the wear of the gears

I personally opened the Kenwood KM 289 - there is nothing difficult in removing the casing. I don't think other models are much more difficult to understand

[Gingi]

Gingi, I would not contact.
Because you can't knead the dough at the maximum.

[Miranda]

Apparently the speed regulator. Since if it works, then the engine is alive. But in which place the electronics flew is unknown and what is the price of the board is also not clear

The question is just the expediency of the repair, I wanted to understand the order of prices at least approximately. The relatives want to take it, but they have no service in the city, so they asked me to find out what it would cost to repair it.



Miranda, of course, it is impossible to use without speeds. It's just that the relatives want to save money, if the repair is not very expensive, they will take it, and I will have to take her to the service.

They offer for not expensive kenwood km010, but the car works only at maximum speed. Is it worth contacting what could fly, can it be repaired and how much will it cost?

Most likely, the regulator burned out, the price of about 3-4 tr can be found on the internet, for example 🔗
Replace work for 20 minutes

A question for the owners of the new 9060. Where are the recipes for Automatic programs written? And then in the sequence ingredient 1 ingredient 2 and what they include is not clear.
In the settings, it seems like you can manually change the power of the car, I don't understand what it is for?

Where are the recipes for Automatic Programs written?

Virtually nowhere. There are 5 or 7 recipes in the colored foreign language instruction book that comes with the new machine. Well, you can use recipes for 096. At your own risk

[Paul I]

And where are they not discussing the nozzles and the bowl of the car?
And then I washed it 2 times in the PMM and for some reason part of the bowl changed color Is this normal? Is the metal lighter and streaked at the bottom?
All in all, I prepared risotto on an automatic program and kneaded the pizza dough
Or is this the normal behavior of the stainless steel?

The only risotto was made with balsamic vinegar. But there it was that 40 milliliters But after cooking there were no traces
Or can you not cook anything sour in a bowl?

If we are talking about the inside of the bowl, then I had something similar when I cooked with stewing. I don’t remember. I washed the bowl with something like Sif, at first there were still visible traces, and then, after different cakes - biscuits, everything disappeared.

If we are talking about the inside of the bowl, then I had something similar when I cooked with stewing.

Well, here, too, there was stewing and hot, but the traces are strange. Especially that circle in the center



Well, the question is, is it possible to somehow buy a bucket for this model? And what is his number and how much does it cost approximately?

Yes, I had the same "spot". Washed off with a sif or Mr Muscle for metal. As for the shiny circle, I can assume that it is a trace from an unadjusted nozzle. I have a similar one at the very bottom, left from experiments in nozzles. It does not bother me.
You can buy a bucket. It costs about 8-10 tons. In different places it is different.
You can find the article number on the Kenwood hotline or their service. At the service center, maybe you can buy.
A few pages ago in this thread or in the topic about the nozzles, girls bought bowls for the new induction at a discount. The discounts are over, but the bowls remain. Look for this place.
Most importantly, you need a bowl with two notches along the edge. The bowl without grooves (to the previous induction) can be used with our machine, but without heating.

I have a similar one at the very bottom, left from experiments in nozzles. It does not bother me.

Well, I only used a hook, a sweeper and a soft mix attachment. It is unclear how they could damage the metal, given that the hook is not adjustable

Thanks for the guess. I understand this is a trail from a sweeper. The strange thing is that the sweeper, although hard plastic, is still clearly less hard than metal)
I just raised it to the very top, but still, sometimes you can hear a creak. Hopefully there won't be any problems

It seems to me that the sweeper is not touching the bowl. In any case, the plastic piece, which is put on the edge of the bowl at the same time, does not touch it. Although, if you hear a creak ...
Very similar to the trail from the nozzle

P. S. I was thinking. If she was a sweeper, then she could just remove the dark soot from the walls, and not scratch the bowl itself, like mine.

There, in the center, is the "tarnish" color of the metal. This arises from overheating of the metal. Moreover, the location coincides with the external induction heating pancake. And the one above is just burnt food.

It seems to me that the sweeper is not touching the bowl.

Concerns Even there are small scuffs Now I raised it as much as possible and it is slightly audible as rubbing

Paul I, I do not think that this is "tarnish", it usually happens outside the pans. Look, the shadow falls differently in the two photos. This is really a layer of burnt food. Removed without problems.
I was just afraid that these tarnishing colors would spoil my wonderful cup. I just waited for it, with bated breath. But for now, mmm.

Paul probably had the appearance of an inner light circle with rainbow-colored stains.
It looks like it really is traces of oxides from tarnishing when heated.
It can be seen that the upper oxides were removed by friction against the mixer, and already upon heating, new ones were formed, which were fixed in the PMM during washing in an alkaline solution.

I don’t give a damn about the color. Not a mirror. I just wanted to understand what it was and whether it would harm the bowl in the future.
While I will master the car and look for a place where a bowl can be bought cheaper)

I'm sorry, but the bluish circle in the center is still a tarnishing (((And it goes along the place where the outer pancake was welded to the bowl body. And the fact that it manifested itself inside the bowl suggests that you didn't overheat it sour. I would checked the temperature sensor in normal mode, this should not be.

Actually, this is my bowl And it is not clear how I can overheat it if the circle appeared after the bowl was removed from the PMM

How to check the sensors?

This will not affect anything. But the fact that this happened is not correct. Check the heating temperature at least offhand with a pyrometer. I'm afraid it is much more than 150. If it is above 200, it is better for repairs.

There is no pyrometer at hand, but I can ask around. What mode should you measure? At maximum heat with an empty bowl? or how ?

Well yes. In theory, heating should be limited to the specified temperature limit.And if not, then we must look for the reason.

animegravitation, and if it "touches", then maybe it shouldn't have been raised?
There is still very little information on the new car. Especially on a sweeper. Few people in Kenwood cook "food". Mostly dough, pastries, sauces ... Maybe Zvezda has some experience?

And a cheaper bowl can be bought on Avito or at a flea market, on the forum. Previous model only, no notches.

On wiki
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For stainless steels, a color change when heated in air is observed: light straw (300 ° C), straw (400 ° C), red-brown (500 ° C), violet-blue (600 ° C), blue (700 ° C) ). Often, tarnishing colors on stainless steel are confused with rainbow coloration, which can occur at temperatures no higher than 100 ° C (boiling water). The iridescent color is not associated with overheating of the steel.

How can I understand? Couldn't the bowl heat up to 600?

Here's the deal. If the temperature sensor does not work and heating occurs uncontrollably, then it could pointwise. Therefore, you need to measure the temperature. As for "the tint color on stainless steel is confused with the iridescent color that can occur at temperatures no higher than 100 ° C", it occurs over the entire surface, and not, as in your case, in a narrow strip exactly following the contours of the external fasteners.

Well then I will look for where to find a pyrometer
And you need to measure on an empty bowl at maximum heating, or what?

Considering that this is an extreme mode and theoretically there should be protection against overheating, like in teapots, that is exactly so. And measure exactly at the point of this circle.

animegravitation, I, of course, am a layman and do not understand anything about this, my husband told me about the colors of tarnishing, but shouldn't they have appeared at the bottom of the bowl outside?
In any case, on pots it happens that there is outside, but not inside.
Forgive me for getting in. I just want to know everything

There, the pancake fasteners are welded on the outside. In theory, discoloration should also appear at the points of contact outside.

But there is nothing outside. What do you think is worth torturing Kenwood managers about this photo? Or a pyrometer first, and then what if a service?
I don't know how it should be in this kitchen machine. This is my first model. I would not like to have a warranty repair right away

To begin with, I would still measure the real temperature. Superfluous argument.

I cook in it and I have different traces .. I wipe it with lemon and everything is fine !! Try it, it might help too
Paul! You, it seems to me, have come too far .. it is unlikely that there can be such troubles

Why can't they? The temperature sensor is at the bottom and heating comes from the disk and along the edges too
Cooked stew yesterday, the stain slightly changed color
Do you also have such a light circle in the center?

The fact of the matter is that I have not seen tarnishing anywhere.

Yes, I'm already confused myself
Yesterday I made stew and cream sauce. Then PMM. Now the circle around the outer edge has darkened and the tarnishing spots have become concentric rings


I think now to order a pyrometer with Ali for 10 bucks, albeit not very accurate, but clearly 500 degrees from 180 will distinguish
In the meantime, I will watch the colors change
And then overheating to the tint colors in the car for 1000 euros is too much for me

animegravitation, tried to understand your discussion with Pavel from the point of view of a teapot. Searching for "tarnish pan" I found mentions of an iridescent color, which is not an tarnish. And which is removed with vinegar (or lemon, as advised by Zvezda). Here are two quotes:

The dishwasher is not recommended for stainless steel dishes. / depends on the manufacturer usually indicate whether or not / If the instructions for stainless steel dishes indicate that they can be washed in the dishwasher, use the pre-soak mode.
If white spots appear inside the dishes, or if the dishes overheat, a violet or brown color may appear on its surface, the iris can be removed with vinegar, citric acid solution or a special stainless steel care product. Stains may appear due to minerals in drinking water, the intensity of their appearance depends on local conditions and the softness of the water

A source: 🔗

For stainless steels, a color change when heated in air is observed: light straw (300 ° C), straw (400 ° C), red-brown (500 ° C), violet-blue (600 ° C), blue (700 ° C) ).Often, tarnishing colors on stainless steel are confused with rainbow coloration, which can occur at temperatures no higher than 100 ° C (boiling water). The iridescent color is not associated with overheating of the steel.

(This is from the Mastergrad forum, a topic about chimneys)

About the same is stated in the instructions for the care of cookware for induction hobs. 🔗
Anyway, try vinegar before ordering a pyrometer. It will not be worse

This is not quite understood. How it is not recommended if it is stated that it is possible to wash in the PMM and the stainless steel, as it were, should calmly withstand washing in the PMM

It certainly is. But firstly, a pyrometer is always needed on the farm, and secondly, the tarnish exactly in place when welding fasteners speaks of something completely different than a certain rainbow color on a stainless steel due to washing in a dishwasher. And those who worked with metal will not confuse tempering with anything. What I see in the photo clearly tells me about the local strong overheating of steel.

It looks like you are right. I made meringues duck where the circle was boiled with protein and sugar, and when making charlotte cream, the yolk protein curled up.
Or am I doing something wrong or the car really drives the temperature too much
How to be? Only in service?

And do other members of the forum who cook in the car have any changes in the bowl in the area of ​​the disk mount for induction?

It is desirable to quickly.

Why faster? And what to write in the claim? That the temperature of the bowl deviates from the set point by more than 2 degrees?

I do not have. I think Pavel is right.
And also, if overheating occurs, you can measure the temperature of the food in the bowl. Should greatly exceed the established value.

Quote: Bijou from Yesterday at 20:15

Is it pure oil to warm, or what?

why oil. You can see what happens at relatively low temperatures - 80-90 *.
Or try to boil 100 * sugar syrup. I mean "multi-percent", which boils at 120-140 *
Well, this is if you need a substantiation of the claim. Although the tarnishing colors and the burning of the meringue in a circle are already grounds for questions that can be asked on the hotline.

Ah, got it. I decided that I needed to clarify the maximum possible, but then yes, then you can just heat the empty bowl.

But keeping track of the temperature of the product in an open spacious bowl despite the fact that the sensor setting it is outside is somehow overly optimistic, as for me.

Rubbed with vinegar. Then he dried - the rings disappeared

So it was all the same salt? Then I will not rush to the service. I'd better order an inexpensive pyrometer from China and try to adjust the nozzles a little lower so that they fit snugly against the walls

Well, I'll think about the syrup too

Why??? Iron oxides, the film of which just gives a different color of the spectrum.
And the acid takes them away. The tarnish colors after welding the stainless steel are also removed with acid.

You don't need to write anything. Bring to the service and show. They will understand everything. Well, or send a photo, if the service is far away.
Quote: animegravitation from Yesterday at 22:00

Rubbed with vinegar. Then he dried - the rings disappeared

Don't worry, they will appear again. The main thing is not to burn anything else while you are waiting for your pyrometer from China. So hurry up with the service. Well, it's not okay.

It will be abnormal if the bowl in the dishwasher also starts to rust. Then just to the service to replace the saucepan.
And so some products can provoke some stainless steel to the appearance of such beauty. ((

animegravitation, but does the magnet accidentally stick to the bowl (above)?

animegravitation, after boiling water in the bowl, I got spots like yours, at the bottom of the bowl. We have very hard water, and scale builds up on teapots very quickly. There were no rainbow divorces. Upset, of course, that the view has deteriorated. Then she did Italian meringue several times in a row and did not notice how the spots disappeared. Now I'm afraid to steam in a bowl with our water. Or you need to buy distilled water.

I tried to find out this question, but no one answered me. Unfortunately, I have a thermometer that is not credible. But it’s interesting.
animegravitation, are you in Moscow? If yes, then the service should come to your home. LydiaVera, we only pour water from bottles into the kettle and coffee maker, because scale quickly forms. And in the multicooker and Kenwood from the tap. And nothing. (I have been using the multicooker for many years.) Perhaps because the bowls are washed after each use, unlike the kettle.
By the way, did you watch the real temperature on the display? (If you press the temperature button, the real temperature of the sensor is displayed for a few seconds, which, as a rule, is 1-2 degrees different from the set one). It can be assumed that the thermometer works fine, even if the heating is buggy. But maybe I'm not right.

Does an empty bowl get hot?

Heats up, heats up. I specifically clarified this question.
This panel itself does not heat up, or rather heats up from the bowl. The bowl, when heated, transfers heat to the panel. And products.

You have explained how the microwave works. Only metal is heated in induction. And for its normal operation, a decent amount of this metal is needed. This is the main difference between induction cookware and ordinary cookware - it has a toasted bottom. The same is with the induction bowl.

I think I'll take it to the service next week.
Then another question. Is the induction in the car smooth? It's just that the book describes the levels in 1000 W, 750, 250 W
Does this mean that the machine regulates the degree of heating by reducing the induction currents? Or stupidly like a PWM - then spar at full, then turn off the induction

Paul I, can you know?

Most likely the first. But I don’t know for sure. I didn't ask such a question.

It's just that if the first one, then maybe the overheating was caused by the fact that the unit that is responsible for regulating the power of inductive heating is somehow malfunctioning?

VRad, unfortunately, won't work like that with our water. It is clear that I wash my cup after using it, but washing this does not heal. We filter the water, but it doesn't save much.

[animegravitation]

The series about the chalice and fortune telling, tempering or not running, overheating or not overheating, etc., is temporarily closed.

animegravitation, is going to go to the service, we will wait for the verdict.

Technical discussions dragged on. People write in private messages, they say, we want about the car and cooking, but we read the topic and do not understand a word for the fourth day.

The information is stored under the spoiler.
If you really want to continue discussing the properties of metal and so on, open a separate topic.

Thank you for understanding.

Girls, you heated eggs for biscuits at what temperature do you beat? I tried 85 and 48 several times, but the biscuits were different and this damaged the purity of the experiment. The last time I whipped the classic for 85 10 minutes, then turned off the heating and another 10 minutes, at the bottom of the bowl it brewed a little. It turned out to be just weird. And yet, maybe someone will come in handy - I used to mix flour with a souffle, gradually pouring lids into the window. And then she began to stop the car, beating the eggs, sift all the flour from above and then insert and mix in the souffle. I liked it that way. How are you doing?

From the group "Kenwood Russia" (maybe someone will be interested (for example, I still haven't received the promised book with recipes)).

"Kenwood Russia today at 15:17

We are pleased to announce that at the moment we have launched our new project - an e-book of recipes online! This book contains many interesting step-by-step recipes that are specially designed for your KENWOOD kitchen machine. And most importantly, unlike the printed version of the publication, new recipes will be constantly added!

Joining KENWOOD Club is now very easy:

register on the site 🔗,
learn new recipes,
cook your culinary masterpieces,
add your own recipes,
share them on social networks.

Since at the moment there are problems with entering a personal code, we temporarily disabled this field during registration!

Welcome to KENWOOD Club! "

Welcome to KENWOOD Club!

All the same, I will speak out. This is certainly not a club.
Well, if you compare with the French, Italian, German, Australian and other national versions.

This is a simplified (not to say poor) version of an online recipe book, not a club. True, with the ability to add your own recipes there. But without fan it takes too long to spin up for people to come, add, use. No communication between participants, no motivation, etc.

Not in all, but in a number of countries, a beautiful invitation with a code to register in the club is enclosed in the box with the car in order to communicate, exchange recipes, and receive prizes.

The account has degrees of status, like here we have loaves, there can be, for example, like the French - a corolla, a jacket and a cap, each has three options - bronze, silver, gold. This is achieved with a certain number of points, and points are given for recipes, for photos / videos in recipes, for a prize in the competition of the week or month, for interesting communication, etc. Points are exchanged for various gifts - dinner in a restaurant, nozzles, cooking courses, recipe books.

For example, this user has only a two-star jacket so far - https://www.cooking-chef.fr/users/magali-12, and this one already has a gold hat with three stars and a lot of points - 🔗 If you click on Ses recettes, then the recipes for a particular person will open.

Almost 11 thousand recipes for an induction machine in a little less than 2 years were written by users (selected by date of addition)
🔗

Search by attachment, food type, difficulty, cook time, etc.
Italians also have a great club with a similar system of all statuses, points, gifts - 🔗

The French, Italians, Germans, etc., buying a car, they buy not just a device, but also a whole world of interesting communication, fun, and other good things.

The French already have a whole library of books with recipes for kitchens. machines with and without induction - 🔗

Italians publish an electronic magazine for club members - 🔗 And books with recipes, unlike the French who sell, are freely available to them - 🔗

You can download a pdf with almost 500 pages of recipes for the new induction, copy the text there and translate it from the Italian google translator. Well, in the clubs, too, to spy on recipes and translate online. And even better - to make here and here with recipes for everyone

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Unfortunately, we have none of this.
And no post-sales support of this level is planned in the near future. Although theoretically they want, understand the importance, and even intended to start a couple of times, but in the end, almost a year of communication on this topic has not turned into anything. But perhaps in a year or sometime ...

In the meantime, in the absence of paper books, magazines, a club and various support - this is such a modest option. Well, and also social networks with beautiful pictures.

My biggest upset and disappointment, because the kitchen. I love Kenwood's car and consider it the best. But support is not. If there was no such awesome support anywhere, then there would be no frustration, but when you compare ...

My biggest upset and disappointment, because the kitchen. I love Kenwood's car and consider it the best. But support is not. If there was no such awesome support anywhere, then there would be no frustration, but when you compare ...

Sanctions, damn it (((
But seriously, it seems to me that such a level of the environment is impossible without serious and thoughtful support from the manufacturer or at least the supplier. But this one in Russia has very limited functionality. And this is the policy of Western companies, including, alas ...

But seriously, it seems to me that such a level of the environment is impossible without serious and thoughtful support from the manufacturer or at least the supplier.

With support it's really bad. A person comes to the store with the aim of choosing and buying a combine, but it is not realistic to get any information about the car in the store (it was in several large network ones), the managers do not know anything, they cannot tell anything about the car, but with attachments it is generally separate history, which one fits which car, I was told exactly the opposite.
I think that the company or at least the supplier should somehow stimulate the managers' interest in the car, so that they, in turn, convey their interest and knowledge to the buyer.
And it turns out that if the buyer does not read the bread maker and does not come to buy a specific Kenwood, he will never buy it, because he simply does not know that Kenwood has such wonderful kitchen machines.

[Miranda]

This is a simplified (not to say poor) version of an online recipe book, not a club. True, with the ability to add your own recipes there.

Miranda, I wrote about this for information, maybe it will be useful to someone, since I have not received the Book with recipes (for 3 years), about which I immediately wrote before this information to "Kenwood Russia",
and also due to the fact that when registering there they do not yet require an additional introduction of a personal code ("at the moment there are problems with the introduction of a personal code, we temporarily disabled this field during registration").

And it turns out that if the buyer does not read the bread maker and does not come to buy a specific Kenwood, then he will never buy it, because he simply does not know that Kenwood has such wonderful kitchen machines.

Gingi - Galina, this is a very fair observation!

And even if I bought a car (I have a Kenwood Chef Sense KVC5040T) a long time ago, as soon as this Sense KVC5040T with such a complete set appeared (and gradually overgrown with nozzles (a cube cutter, a souffle)), but only thanks to the Bread Maker. ru and tips that are so generously shared here (THANKS !!!), I more or less started using it.
I was counting on the Recipe Book at one time, but they never sent it to me (this also refers to the question of post-sales support).

And another question: why, when choosing "my equipment" in the personal profile, Kenwood does not offer any KVC model?

[Miranda]

Miranda, Thanks for the links! Looked a little, very interesting. By the way, the cream is whipped at high speed without sugar, and after adding it, the speed is lowered.

[Paul I]

I wrote about this for information, maybe it will be useful to someone, since the Book with recipes never came to me

Thanks for sharing!
Sorry I didn't thank you right away.

Any information, especially recipes, is always good.
And the Bread Maker is our everything

Paul I, let's not come up with sanctions.
Only we have sanctions, and not only we do not have a club.

It's a matter of budget and allocation. Therefore, there is no club in Ukraine, for example, or in Poland. But on the other hand, they are doing it now in the Czech Republic. Although they have a budget smaller than French or German.

This is not a question of desire for a couple of employees, but for the structure of the entire national unit. Therefore, it is not in England, or Switzerland, where the budget is much better than that of Ukraine, Poland or the Czech Republic. And in Germany it was opened not so long ago.

Your opinion is clear. Therefore, it is not worth developing a discussion.
The fact that you regularly bombard Kenwood with letters gives you some extra. information, but also creates the illusion of knowing the company (Russian division).

Gingi, this is a problem for all stores.
Sellers not only in Kenwood do not understand. Plus they have a plan - to sell what is too much in the warehouse. It depends on the store, though.

zvezda, download the book Italian for Gourmet. And for the previous induction it is also very ok. It is easier to copy and translate from a file. The Google translator is crooked and oblique, but it translates clearly.

Good day! Has anyone ordered free recipe books from KENWOOD.? I received a message that the book was released and it will be delivered by 14.03. As far as I know, she comes to Russia, and I live in Kazakhstan. Tell me, will they send it to Kazakhstan?

[Helen1]

Helen1, so far no one wrote about this.
This is a question for Kenwood.

And what kind of book did they write? To Gourmet or to machines without induction?

No, I have an ordinary Kenwood KVL-6040, when I bought there was a free coupon for the book. The second day they send me a message that the book has been released. I ask the question how to get it, I am in Kazakhstan, write them my address and that I will pay for the postal services, AND THEY ARE SILENT

[Helen1]

Helen1, I ordered ...

There they have such a "practice": after buying a kitchen machine, they offer to register the product on their website to receive a warranty certificate and a free Recipe Book.
I at one time registered by the proposed number (it was like everyone else in the box with the car), after which they sent me an email. mail a certificate and promised to send a book (more precisely, they wrote that they had already sent it), which I have been "waiting" for the 3rd year ...
In the VK group there, people constantly complain about this "where is the Book?", To which they are asked to indicate their address, etc.and the book will be sent "again".

So I was probably already "re-sent", so I, just in case, wrote here that they decided to launch such a version of this Book in the form of this "Club" ...

[bangs]

bangsThank you)) I gave them the address, I did everything the same way as you did, so you don't have to wait. And then I sit worried ...