Natusichka
That's it, I freaked out! I put a rice dairy in Shteba in the morning. I did it for the first time, I was very afraid that the milk would run away ...
Everything turned out like Tanyulia's, clear and tasty!
And now you can try corn in Shteb, why waste more time (and electricity), if the result is the same in Shteb and in less time.
But the semolina is ONLY in CASH !!!! She always turns out so ... so .... extraordinary !!!! Olga, I never tire of thanking you!
Pandochka
So my dilemma with the choice of the Kenwood machine was solved)))))))) Now I found on the Cookingshef website that only 096 model is listed in the trim levels! The operator told me that 094 will no longer be on sale, the new model has already been released (it is not possible to order yet), the cost is unchanged 128,000 rubles! The package is the same as the 096 model. Something like this))) So soon, very soon I will order myself a cache 096, as planned, and no more headaches It is still unknown when the machine will appear at the master classes.

PS at Kenwood. ru hangs a new model with a price of 70,000 rubles. It's strange somehow.
Rottis
Pandochka, I could be wrong, but in the Gourmet in the extended configuration there is still a meat grinder and a mini-grinder. But the price ....


And on it still hangs 69900)
Marinuly
Rottis, a mini-grinder is great, but a meat grinder is better with a detachable unit

and did anyone see the souffleika somewhere?
Rottis
Marinuly, the soufflake on pre-order hangs on the cookie chef. RU
Olga VB
Quote: Marinuly
but a meat grinder is better with a detachable unit
Marisha, not a fact!
If there is already a CM, then the meat grinder nozzle does an excellent job, and does not require extra space in comparison with a separate one. And it works just as well.
However, there are models of individual meat grinders that work well and are cheaper than the attachment
Miranda
Rottis, equipment and name differs from country to country.
So it was with the first induction, somewhere our 096 kit was called 092 and 090. Probably, this is how batches are tracked for different countries. And now there is also a menu with the words electronic, possibly 2-3 main languages ​​+ for a specific country.

In Germany, the same as in Kenwood. ru is called - KCC9060S (extended configuration) and KCC9040S. And in the extended one, in addition to the blender and food processor, there is also a scale.

In Italy at the office. website one option - KCC9068S.
Judging by the picture, also with weights.

In France, there is also one option - KCC9063S, with a blender and processor, but without scales. Although I saw the scales in the French unboxing video.

Plus, stores can make extended versions.
Whether we will have scales or not is a question.
Marinuly
Rottis, thanks, I watch every day. They are not yet pre-ordering, they said - in August. What if it appears earlier ?!


Olga VB, Ol, and I almost burned Boshik, so I bought a meat grinder separately (beastly horror)
Rottis
Marinuly, my order was accepted 2 weeks ago ...
Marinuly
Rottis, Thank you!
I tried to order a month ago. Now I'll try to order


Elena, have you ordered a CookChef?
Peter Push
Quote: Olga VB
If there is already a CM, then the meat grinder nozzle does an excellent job, and does not require extra space in comparison with a separate one. And it works just as well.
Olga VB, it's hard to disagree with you, this nozzle is really, very good. For those who have problems with use, there are two tips for them - use the attached twist key and read here https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/index.php@option=com_smf&topic=8100.740.
Rottis
Quote: Marinuly
Elena, have you ordered the CookChef?
Yes, on it. The order was accepted, they called back, they said that they were expecting by August. 🤗
Marinuly
Rottis, Thank you!
I also made an order now, they will call now tomorrow
Didn't you ask if they'll get a discount on a discount card?
Rottis
Marinuly, to me on you)
didn't ask, I didn't have a map yet)
Marinuly
Rottis, I shouldn't forget to ask tomorrow, otherwise I can teach that too


Lena, I didn't see it right away ...
In St. Petersburg they accepted, but in Moscow they can show a fig. I ordered the combine and immediately asked about the souffleika, they answered that pre-order could be made in early August.
I'll see what they say tomorrow

Rottis, may the moderators forgive me for writing off topic here
With pre-order, bummer ... The soufflake will only be in September, but you can order it in August, it's on CookChef
Silyavka
Good day, dear members of the forum. Can anyone tell me something about Kenwood OWKM 355002? Can someone tell me what kind of unit it is. Should I take this machine?
Peter Push
SILYAVKA, this car is similar to the KM331 and KM336 from the Chef Classic line. The difference with KM331 in color and equipment, their bodies are made of plastic, this is a minus, in my opinion. KM336 is made of metal and plastic. I don't remember any reviews about them, but my older brother, or rather my sister,
KM 636 Major Classik (see video review here) was praised in the second part of our thread, users were pleased with it, actively bought the necessary attachments. Look more at 🔗food processors.asp. Nice discount on the KMM770 - metal and powerful.
Quote: SILYAVKA
Should I take this machine?
It is difficult to give advice without knowing what and how much you are going to do with this unit.
Silyavka
My husband decided to give me a dough mixer, went to the store, saw this machine. I was looking for reviews on the Internet, I came across this site, I read, and I understand that I do not understand anything. I decided to ask. All advanced users here, but I passed by 😁. I plan to use it mainly for kneading dough (for dumplings, bread, shortbread, biscuits), well, also whip cream there ... So I think what to pay attention to (again, I don't understand anything about this). This is my first serious unit, I had no idea about this before. And I am confused by the price of 22,000. Maybe because China? It's just that prices are listed here that I began to doubt.
NatalyaB
SILYAVKA, here, basically, as I understand it, the owners of large powerful machines with induction have gathered. The price strongly depends on the power, and on what it is made of, and on the functionality, and on the configuration. The presence of heating with induction is already another level, this is a machine for only milking preparation, but also for some preparation. Hence the price. Well, and the volume, rather, for a professional concoction or a large family.
True, I have neither one nor the other, but the car is so good that I would buy it, but it would not fit anywhere. Therefore, it cost with good power, but smaller dimensions. And the price was average.
Marinuly
SILYAVKA, 800 W is a small power and it is all plastic, hence the price.
Maybe you can see a car with more power. It depends on how much you are willing to spend
Peter Push
SILYAVKA, for the needs indicated by you, km should be taken with a bowl of 6.7 liters, all other things being equal, the dough will be better kneaded in a larger bowl, this has already been discussed on the "Kenwood. Working with nozzles" (p. 925 ff). Better with a metal case, the weight is higher - more stability, and the heating will not strain, and in our case, metal is better than plastic. And all the cars are now being produced in China, they talked about this in the first part of the branch, the user bought a km through the Internet in England, and was very surprised at the inscription "made in China". Lena, take a look at the KU, this is a German Internet. score. Proven over the years, many and many have bought there. Well, now there is a 40% discount (the price is about 25 thousand), about this I gave the link above, an excellent option, all metal, powerful and reliable (I have one, it has been happy for a year already, t-t-t). The bowl is by no means huge, it only seems to knock down squirrels 6-7 is already the ceiling, knead the cake into 1 kg of flour. The choice is yours. But my advice is either KKM770 or KM636 and a bowl of 6.7 liters. I wish you success!!!
Peter Push
Quote: Marinuly
Peter Push, how much will the delivery cost? I ask this for myself.
Marinuly, somewhere around 30 euros, but there they still deduct the PDV, as far as I understand. If you are thinking, then ask all the questions directly to them.If you buy a km, you can do it alone, if you have money and you can add attachments, but if you have one attachment, then you need to group, here it is easier for you personally, there are many Muscovites on the forum.
Air
I ordered twice on the CU website. It turns out to be profitable if you order several attachments (but there are not only attachments, so there is where to roam). Everything is sent in excellent condition, but it is not recommended to order the ice cream maker there, since during the delivery process, the inner bowl of the ice cream maker is very often damaged and the bowls come with leaked refrigerant. It is easier to buy it here (and here it is necessary to check that there is no leaked refrigerant on the sides of the bowl!)
Peter Push
Quote: NatalyaB
here, basically, as I understand it, the owners of large powerful machines with induction have gathered ... but the car is so good that I would have bought it, but it would not fit anywhere
NatalyaB, you are partly right, recently there are more and more users with induction. And they turned for advice (they turn now less often) for any km, but not everyone comes after the purchase with stories about the car, happily informed about the purchase, accepted congratulations and that's all - workdays began, the delight of the purchase imperceptibly changed to the routine of kitchen troubles. But the owners of cookies visit sites much longer, hence the conclusion - the car is a bomb. And they all occupy the same area, different heights.
Quote: Air
ice cream maker is not recommended to order there
Air, here, and I suffer because of this, well, they are not in Kharkov, and buying in Kiev is also scary because of the shipment.
Air
Girls from St. Petersburg, on Wednesdays St. Petersburg hosts master classes from Kenwood Cooking Chef. To record, call 8 (926) 701-80-35
Olga VB
There are a lot of complaints about the ice cream bowl precisely because of the leaking refrigerant. For this reason, many sellers stopped buying it altogether.
Personally, I, being a big fan of Kesha, bought a separate ice maker (freezer), by the way, at the same KU. And I am absolutely sure of the superiority of the freezer over the usual ice maker.

SILYAVKA, if funds allow, immediately take a metal model with a large bowl, so that later it turns out that you have not thought out the prospects well enough.
Here everyone went through the throes of choice, and almost always came to such a decision. Limited only by financial considerations.
Judging by your question:
Quote: SILYAVKA
I plan to use it mainly for kneading dough (for dumplings, bread, shortbread, biscuits), well, beat the cream there ...
, you will use the machine quite actively, and you will greatly expand its use as you use it, because Kesha is a really good helper and greatly expands the culinary horizons.
And if you take root on our forum, you will understand how much more you need on the farm - not only in the kitchen
So welcome to the world of restless housewives!
By the way, this is an innocent delusion or trick:
Quote: SILYAVKA
My husband decided to give me a dough mixer
My husband understands very well that he bought Kesha for himself more than for me, and not at all because he only occasionally looks at him tenderly while I actively exploit him.
So this will be a gift, most likely, to your husband.
And if you get stuck on our forum, then let him prepare to earn more in order to give himself constantly all sorts of useful gifts for him
NatalyaB
Peter Push, the height is 10 cm and the "thickness" is slightly. It turned out to be critical for me.
But the car is a beast, I am happy for a month and a half. With this power, the meat grinder works great, and the processor, and the blender, and whips quickly. Just a small amount, for example, one protein, does not come out, but I have not yet adjusted the height of the corolla.
I am a neophyte in harvesters, before that everything was separate. For yeast, there is CP for 8 years, probably, or more.
Olga VB
Quote: NatalyaB
For yeast, there is CP for 8 years, probably, or more.
And Keshey kneaded yeast?
It's called Feel the Difference!
NatalyaB
Olga VB, no, there was no need. But I have no heating, so I hardly will. I put it in the HP and pulled it out, I got used to it already. And on dumplings in the same place.Kenwood so far pleases with graters, whisks, a chopper, so that while whipping, you can do something else, and not stand with a mixer at the ready.
Not pleased with the juicer, yes. It's a shame. But maybe I will still adapt.
Darkusha
Quote: Olga VB

The cube in the topic about attachments is also given a lot of attention.
Personally, I can cut everything on it, including meat, only each product has its own approach.
Share your secrets
Olga VB
Quote: NatalyaB
Olga VB, no, there was no need.
NatalyaBTry it somehow for fun - you will be very surprised.
And, by the way, HP is not convenient for any recipe, but Kesha can handle any.
Quote: Darkusha
Share your secrets
Darkusha, ElenaThere are many "secrets" of working with a cube in the topic about attachments.
There, literally on the first pages, there are discussions, and there are also many further on the topic.
You just need to freeze some products, alternate some correctly, crumble some first, and then boil - there are different approaches.
Read it.
Good luck!
Silyavka
Oh, I wanted to highlight one phrase, but I emphasized the whole message. I can’t figure out what and how. Excuse me.
Olga VB
Elena, In the message, you can mark (highlight) the desired phrase and press the button Kenwood Kitchen Machines... As a last resort, if something goes wrong and the entire message is copied, you can subtract it in your response.
Good luck!
verchik
Quote: Olga VB

And if you take root on our forum, you will understand how much more you need on the farm - not only in the kitchen
So welcome to the world of restless housewives!
This is Me, this is about me))) I used to be only a reader (what to buy, how to choose) and an amateur of recipes) And now I walk here for days))) I'm talking! And that's all after buying Kesha) and now I also need to sell the kitchen floor, and buy or replace it with more interesting gadgets))) I'm afraid already with my husband and stutter about a new nozzle)))
Miranda
SILYAVKAyou feel so good already Peter Push answered that there was nothing to add.
Metal is better than plastic. The German store is good. Bowl 6.7 l. not that big.

But, of course, you have to look at the money.

People with a big car here really communicate more often. It's a pity, it would be interesting to read about other models. Maybe we, the owners of induction, scared them away?
NatalyaB
Miranda,
Not scared away! I have no induction - KVC7300s. It came, as it once did, when HP appeared. New technique - features - pick up ideas. Moreover, it is impossible to download the recipe book, although the code was issued.
The attachments are almost the same. Not everything I have yet (but I already realized that I could easily do without a pair), so I read it, and suddenly what else is needed?
Peter Push
Quote: NatalyaB
I have no induction - KVC7300s.
NatalyaB, I know what km you have, and for a long time and with great impatience I am waiting for stories about kneading dough with a new hook. And suddenly a tub of ice water - a batch in HP. Well, how is that? And heating is not necessary for kneading and dough. Try to knead your dough recipe in km at least once! I'm not saying that the dough in hp is bad, it is good, but in km ..., you immediately understand, here it is - DOUGH. Observe a few rules: a) knead for a minute speed if only all the ingredients are mixed, about 5 minutes, then a pause of 20-30 minutes, it must be given, during this time the flour proteins swell, absorbing water, and with further kneading they form gluten , if you knead immediately, then these 20-30 minutes. they will also go for swelling, only in vain to drive km; b) the main batch of 10 (+ -) min. (if the dough is sourdough or dough) up to 15 (+ -) min., the speed depends on the moisture content of the dough, ordinary bread with flour VS - 1, with the addition of tsz flour - from min to one (the more tsz flour, the shorter the batch) , high moisture content of the dough (Italian, ciabatta) also requires a higher speed - about 2 (someone kneads such a dough with a K-shaped nozzle, I still prefer a hook); c) take water for kneading from the bottom shelf of the refrigerator, add salt and oil at the end of the batch - this is all for the comfortable development of gluten. There is nothing difficult in this, you have to start somewhere, in the second ten of the batch you will not even look at the clock. I wish you success! And we continue to wait!

Quote: Olga VB
Personally, I, being a big fan of Kesha, bought a separate ice maker (freezer), by the way, at the same KU. And I am absolutely sure of the superiority of the freezer over the usual ice maker.
Olga VB, pliz details
NatalyaB
Peter Push, thanks for the detailed instructions! Copied and saved. I haven’t tried it just because I almost don’t bake pies from yeast dough now, this is mainly in winter. Now there are light berries from yeast-sand, it is unnecessary to knead it, even harmful. All sorts of charlottes - the season itself. With this km copes with a plus. Jellied pies and chopped dough quiches are a processor, great too. For a month and 10 days I have tried enough: soon I will stop crawling through the door, because you need to eat it or at least try!
And in recent years, KhP has made any dough to me perfectly, the recipes are different, even baked pies in it out of sports interest, and it's easy for pies / pies / cakes / buns. In general, let's wait and see.
Peter Push
NatalyaB, I have HP Panasonic, the recipe for the dough for pies I take it, only for 1 kg of flour, that is, I multiply everything by 2. The difference in the dough and in the products is noticeable, and it is in favor of km. Good luck!
Olga VB
Quote: Peter Push
Olga VB, details pliz
Details about my freezer here.
In the same thread one level up you will find details about other freezers / ice makers as well as recipes for them.
Good luck!
Peter Push
Olga VB, thank you very much!
Miranda
Quote: NatalyaB
I have no induction - KVC7300s

I remember, and I am also quietly waiting for the story about the new hook
NatalyaB
Peter Push, well, well, I make according to different recipes - pies, sweet pies, rolls, Easter cakes, fokkachu ... On this site I took the cake recipe, slightly corrected it. I also have a Panasonic, there the recipe is poor, for my taste. But I will try kenwood too.




Miranda, is it different from yours? Here I have a different souffle, like, not the same as in 096. Plastic. I didn’t like the result. True, only in biscuits I tried to mix flour with it. Not appreciated.
But the question is: in the middle of the kneading nest, my km has a pin, and with protrusions. A whisk nest spins around it. What is he for? Maybe there are some attachments that can be put on him? Internally! Maybe I need one?
And one more thing: in the box with a sieve for wiping, there was some kind of plastic wick, like a sleeve, packed, but there was no hole where to fit it. What is it for?
Miranda
NatalyaB, the hook is different.
The hook is considered the best for induction series 70, 80 and 90. In the new induction, it is also coiled, but without a spatula at the end, we all look forward to hearing about it.

There is one soufflake for everyone - plastic, the only difference is in size for a large / small bowl. You probably got it wrong with flexi.



Quote: NatalyaB
in the middle of the kneading nest, my km has a pin, and with projections.

Quote: NatalyaB
there was some kind of plastic wick, like a sleeve

It's hard to understand in words.
Can you take a picture of the pin and wick?

(girls always call things so funny, and more often than not they understand what they mean)
Olga VB
the pin in the middle has so far only been used for one nozzle, the stirrer. It is needed only for CM with heating. But since many details for different models are unified, where there is no induction, there is no need for some architectural excesses.
Here from 4.00 it is clearly visible.
NatalyaB
Olga VB, Yes understood. I just thought on this nozzle that this is a "for big" souffle. I don't have one, so my kenwood is not mature enough. And the sufleika - yes, such as Miranda showed.
Quote: Miranda
The hook is considered the best for induction series 70, 80 and 90
I have no scapula, spiral, yes. Albeit without induction. Well, I even wonder how he will behave.
Quote: Miranda
You probably got it wrong with flexi.
No, flexi separately. The same souffleika.
eye
Quote: Olga VB

And Keshey kneaded yeast?
It's called Feel the Difference!
Quote: NatalyaB
Olga VB, no, there was no need. But I have no heating, so I hardly will. I put it in the HP and pulled it out, I got used to it already.
not right, oh how wrong!
NatalyaB, for comparison, just try and not return to hp again: soooo test hp will not give, there will not be enough power, compare the shoulder of the hook and the blade of hp. And the bread from the oven is very different!
Olga VB
eye, Tanyusha, just NatalyaB has not yet passed the stage that sooner or later many bakers go through: first HP, and then kneader + oven.
By the way, some then return to baking in HP with programmable modes, but knead all the same with a dough mixer, and not to automatic modes, but to shamanism and dancing with tambourines, in order to get the result as in the oven.
Peter Push
Quote: NatalyaB
Miranda, is he different from yours?
NatalyaB, see the branch "Kenwood. Working with attachments", page 92 there is a photo Miranda with hooks from 20 (60 and from induction 70, 80 and 90 series.




Quote: ok
not right, oh how wrong!
eye, so luckily a person has to be dragged, it happens that way, it turns out .... then he will say thanks.

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