Miranda
Oh, even more incomprehensible.

I found this site - 🔗
Such as - 🔗

With the same phones, etc., only the assortment is different, and where Kiev is really only 094 and the new KCC9060S at an interesting price.

I don't understand
I would live in Ukraine, call the free number 0 800 503 507 and ask about these incomprehensibility.
Cos
Yes, he is this very site.
They gave it to me when I called on an ad on the OLH in search of 096. They told everything in detail by phone, answered all the questions professionally, invited me to the culinary academy to watch and try for free. If there are any doubts, they said to call 0 800 ... - there everyone will confirm their legality, including it will be possible to check by the serial number if there is a car in the base of the service center for a guarantee. In the spring, they said about the new car that they had it, but they themselves were still studying the intricacies of the work.

But now they are already invited to the next free master class to touch the new car too

"For those who have not yet seen the wonders of Kenwood Cooking Chef with their own eyes, an informal meeting tomorrow at 12:00 in our Kenwood cooking studio!

We will demonstrate the advantages of induction (heating), show custard dough and cream, Swiss meringue, which are prepared with minimal manual labor, everything is done efficiently and professionally by the machine!
Let me remind you that there are several promotional cars left for 19299 UAH and we are meeting a new model!
We will also try to master the new model! "
Miranda
Cos, I'm all the same strange that at the office. the site does not have a word, but only somewhere you can accidentally find out.

But it's also interesting that they announce the end of sales for 094 and 096.
Both are sold abroad. In France, for example, a year is already coming soon, as the new induction is in the ranks, but the old one is also very popular.
Cos
Miranda,
Something I doubt about the termination of sales Most likely such a marketing move. And then: "Oh, there are still a couple of dozen cars lying around"

I also remembered that the online store for which office. the site refers to, is actually located in a shopping center - that is, rentals, sellers, warehouses and all that. And these comrades, who are with the culinary academy, after placing the order, send their courier to customs and deliver the car straight from there to your home. Perhaps that is why the sites are made different and the prices are different. That way, the costs are lower. Well it is, as a hypothesis

Again, when people talk about 9060, they mean pre-order, not in stock. That is, they stir up interest before the official start of sales.
Miranda
Cos, well, I don't want to speculate. Why are both sites of the type official, but they have a different assortment, and at the same different prices.

I only know that any doubts from a client are bad for business.
Cos
Miranda,

Quote: Miranda
Why are both sites of the type official, but they have a different assortment, and at the same different prices.

Because damn capitalism
verchik
Cos, I bought a sieve attachment from them, and my godfather received a chopper yesterday. The sender is not listed as a private person, but as a TOV.
As for the price, then for all goods in all countries, the price is different! For example, you have the same soufflake at 3! times cheaper than ours. This does not characterize "solvency") And given that many people order the Mongol in Europe, because it is cheaper there, this is not at all a pricing indicator)
ol-1
Can you please tell me, bought a kenwood 7300s, when kneading the dough at 1 speed, the upper part of the mixer shakes very much, owners of kenwoods should this be?
NatalyaB
ol-1, what dough? I haven't made anything thick in the bowl yet, and the rest (biscuit, muffin, soft shortbread) is almost without vibration.Well, maybe a little and not at first speed. It vibrates (but all) when, for example, chopped dough or minced meat is made in the processor in the first few seconds. This is understandable, it is, nevertheless, not so heavy, but powerful.
ol-1
Yeast dough for the pie, not very steep, about 700 grams of flour.
And after 10 minutes of mixing, the top part got pretty hot. And the store was assured that it could work for hours.
Olga VB
ol-1, and how much dough / flour does the instruction recommend?
Peter Push
Quote: ol-1
Can you please tell me, bought a kenwood 7300s, when kneading the dough at 1 speed, the upper part of the mixer shakes very much, owners of kenwoods should this be?
ol-1, so that the result of the kneading and the process itself does not upset you, you must follow several simple rules - the amount of flour according to the instructions, this is one, two - the kneading speed - for ordinary bread dough with a moisture content of 62-64%, the speed is from min to 1 (if in the batch there is c / z flour, then the speed is a little more than a minute and the kneading time is shorter), if you have a thick dough (humidity 58-60%), the speed of minutes or a little higher depends on the amount of dough. Wet dough from 66 to 86% can be kneaded even at speed 2. And the movement of Kesha's head will be, without movement he will simply carry it, this is thought out constructively, but he should not move on the table. If this is your first experience in kneading dough, then at first for min. mix all ingredients (5 minutes) and turn off the kneader. After 20 - 30 minutes, start the main batch, the speeds are indicated above, the time is from 10 to 15 minutes. And the dough will be well kneaded - this means that it does not smear along the bottom, but on the contrary, like the eraser cleaned both the bottom and the walls of the bowl, and gathered into a lump, everything shiny and silky at a glance, sticks a little to your hands. Take cold water from the refrigerator, the kneaders quickly heat up the dough, this is not good, + 20 is that. Good luck and do not hesitate to ask questions, we all went through it!
ol-1
Flour up to 1.3 kg is possible. speed first min. included, then switched to 1, though without a break. Doesn't move on the table, but the top seemed to shake violently. I'll try to follow. just let it stand.
Olga VB
Quote: ol-1
Flour up to 1.3 kg can be
Surprised
For a long time I was not interested in theory / instruction
When I knead the dough on 1 kg of flour on cakes, the bowl is almost full (6.7 liters). Then, of course, when the KM stops, the dough settles, but during kneading there is a feeling of a full bowl

Peter Push
Quote: ol-1
I'll try to follow. just let it stand.
ol-1, this pause, it is called autolysis, must be given without fail, during this time the flour proteins swell and then, under mechanical action on them, turn into gluten. But if you immediately knead, then the process of swelling will still take its time, only in vain we heat the dough and drive the dough mixer. Google another "kneading KM dough", there are a lot of videos on YouTube, look at the shaking of strangers and calm down - this is the norm. Good luck!
Quote: Olga VB
Surprised
When I knead the dough on cakes for 1 kg of flour, then the bowl is almost full (6.7 liters). Then, of course, when the KM stops, the dough settles, but during kneading there is a feeling of a full bowl
Olga VB to 1 kg of flour we still put a lot of things ... in total we knead 2.3, or even 2.4 kg of dough, but its humidity is higher than that of a simple bread, therefore at 1 speed and min for 20 - an excellent result. That's the amount they manage to knead in a 4.6 liter bowl, I can't imagine how it fits there ...
ol-1
I took off how the batch was going, you can see how it was shaking. How can I insert a video here?

I remember the pause, what I did when kneading the dumplings dough by hand, but I forgot it long ago.
Peter Push
ol-1 , look here kneading, compare with your


The car is also a new line, only the bowl is larger. Here's another

I also get warm, I do not worry - there is protection, at a critical temperature it will turn off. I carefully watched these videos myself several times. The difference in behavior when kneading the dough between my major and these new ones, I caught. First, the distance between the moving and non-moving parts is larger, maybe 3-4 mm.The second mine, when kneading, moves his head back and forth, and in the new ones - as if there are some kind of pillows, movements are soft, back and forth, and even up and down, something new was introduced into the structure.
Olga VB
Quote: ol-1
How can I insert a video here?
Via youtube
Brillante
Quote: Miranda
Congratulations!
The book, unfortunately, is now only electronic. Maybe someday they will print paper, but so far it is not.

And you took from the officials, do not worry!

Thank you so much
Pandochka
Hello everyone! Today I was told that there will be no more promotions for 096 model and the promotion with gifts (meat grinder and press) is valid today is the last day! So I'm ordering))))
Miranda
Pandochka, have time?
Pandochka
Miranda, you can come to me on you, I'm only for))))) Nope, yesterday the Internet was cut off))))) And now while the action is in place ..... Something is not right here))))
According to updated data, 096 will not be available soon!
Pandochka
Hello everyone and have a nice day!
So the day has come when I became the proud owner of cache 096 !!!
Just an hour ago they brought it in. I did not check anything with the courier, but after that I unpacked everything slowly, I examined everything. I tried the food processor (I could not disconnect it from the base, it was too lazy to look in the forum, the instructions say that turn counterclockwise and again and everything worked out super)))), blender (so powerful, heavy, uuuhhhh))) ), whisk and induction. All right. The only thing I did not find in the thicket, only the maximum marks on the sides! During operation, it will already be clear whether everything is good or not)))) It seemed to me a bit noisy, on microns, somehow not so noticeable! But I think everything is within the normal range! And I also have a question, I looked into the grate (of the heating element), and there was some kind of non-uniform metal on top, and the plate is beige-brown with a white bloom on top - is that all right? It's just that the only thing that caught my eye and decided to clarify. In the evening I'll read the instructions and think about the first course)))) Ohhh, how scary)))
And another question on the blender, the plastic base at the bottom unwinds hard, is it necessary to tighten it strongly? And it is installed not as in the video of different exactly, but as if the handle is turned to the side, maybe I did not insert it that way, although in a different way he did not let me twist.
Natusichka
Alyona, Congratulations!
I want to warn you about the mixer, if you unscrew the bottom, twist it very well so that it is not distorted, otherwise the liquid will pour into the heart of the machine and that's it ...
Pandochka
Natusichka, thank you)))
Doesn't the bottom need to be unscrewed for washing? I just thought how hard it would be to wind and unscrew it every time in order to wash everything))))
VolzhankaD
Pandochka, not necessary. Pour the product somewhere, pour warm water into a blender, a drop of detergent and run for 5-10 seconds at a stroke. speed, then rinse.
Pandochka
VolzhankaD, this is very cool !!! Thank you)))
Silyavka
VolzhankaD took it off the tongue. I wash my Vitek blender after I cut my fingers badly.

Girls, in general, the blender and mini chopper are best kept untwisted. Let me explain why. There is a rubber gasket, rubber is compressed in modern times, and there will be a gap, and accordingly it will leak. I did this:

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Better to screw it up again than to lose an assistant.
Natusichka
It's also true, Helen!
Miranda
Quote: Panda
So the day has come when I became the proud owner of cache 096 !!!
Hurrah! At last!
Congratulations
Pandochka
Miranda, yeah)))) Gran Merci))) All washed, dried !!! Tomorrow you need to make a carrot cake))))
NatalyaB
Pandochka, Congratulations! It's great!
Pandochka
NatalyaB, thank you))))
Yesterday I determined the place for the cache and for all the attachments Ehhhh, such a quagmire !!!! I also want to ask my husband to insert a switch into the cord so as not to constantly pull it out of the socket!
Silyavka
Quote: Panda
insert the switch into the cord,
Alena, it may not be worth while the cache is under warranty, if it happens (pah pah pah) the warranty will not work, you will have to make repairs at your own expense.
Pandochka
Silyavka, it is truth too! Although I thought this does not apply to the cord! But it's better not to take risks, this light does not bother me, it still stands in the kitchen, no one sleeps there)))
Skazi
Pandochka, there are switches with a button. They are inserted into the socket, the device is turned on and when it is necessary, they simply switch the on / off switch. It is no longer necessary to pull out the plug of the device.
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NatalyaB
Skazi,
Quote: Skazi
there are switches with a button.
Yes, I also wanted to advise. There are also several sockets, and there is even a fuse, such as surge protectors. I turn it on in my Kenwood - the power is great, suddenly what. You just need to look at what power and current these filters are designed for.
Pandochka
Thank you all very much! I'm just going to buy a mixer today, so I'll go to the electrician))))
Silyavka
Pandochka, electrical appliances in any case must be pulled out of the socket. Even if they are turned off, they still consume electricity. My husband put these toggle switches for me, when electrical appliances don't work, I just turn off the toggle switch (the sockets go through the toggle switch).
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Pandochka
Silyavka, thanks, yes I know, but all the same, the consumption is negligible, it's more convenient than pulling it out every time. We already have such a toggle switch without options, it's a pity to spoil the apron!

Girls, please go to the branch with nozzles, no one answers me there (((((I'm worried
Miranda
There are very good surge protectors, with separate buttons for each outlet. I love the Korean Daesung with a 5 year warranty. You can fix it on the wall, it has all sorts of protection, such as from lightning discharges. There are 2, 3 and 4 nests, well, the price from this is 1-1.5 thousand. An excellent solution for kitchens. technology.

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NatalyaB
Miranda,
Quote: Miranda
Korean Daesung
Yes, that's what I use. It can withstand a good power (more than 2 kW).
Vlad_Ru
Quote: Miranda
There are very good surge protectors, with separate buttons for each outlet.
The problem of all surge protectors power buttons if the wires are even less, then the buttons are constantly on.
So I would not recommend this from the point of view of electrical safety, the power of the CM is still more than 1 kW.
NatalyaB
Vlad_Ru,
Quote: Vlad_Ru
power of KM is still more than 1 kW.
That is why I say that you need to look at the maximum load. The one that I have and that Miranda recommended can withstand a load of 3200 watts, as it turned out. And the current is 16 A.
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Vlad_Ru
Quote: NatalyaB
The one that I have and that Miranda recommended can withstand a load of 3200 watts, as it turned out. And the current is 16 A.
🔗
Dear girls, the laws of physics have not been canceled, there is such a concept of peak power (for example, at the moment of switching on), so it can be 3-4 times higher than the nominal.
All these switches have very small contacts, and often burn out at high current.
Pandochka
Vlad_Ru, my husband, about the same thing said)))))
Paul I
Quote: Vlad_Ru
Dear girls, no one has canceled the laws of physics, there is such a concept of peak power (for example, at the moment of switching on), so it can be 3-4 times higher than the nominal.
All these switches have very small contacts, and often burn out at high current.
Vlad, hello!
As an electrical engineer, let me put in my 5 kopecks.
First, the phrase "no one has canceled the laws of physics" is more correct to read as follows: nobody canceled the laws of physics
Secondly, almost all electrical appliances rated for a certain power have a power reserve for the peak load. The starting current, of course, in a pulse, it can exceed the working one by several times, but the pulse is short - a few milliseconds, and during this time the spiral of the electric lamp has time to burn out (it is thin), or the electronic elements can fly if they are without protection, but the contacts do not even have time to warm up significantly ... But the contacts burn out not at all because of the inrush current, but because of the occurrence of a spark at the moment of shutdown. This spark is due to a 90 degree phase shift between the voltage and current vectors. Although from practice, the reasons for podgornaya contacts often lie in the area of ​​the quality of manufacture of the switches themselves.Before choosing this or that product, I disassemble it and see how the switches and contact groups are made. The quality of contact in electrical engineering is the most important thing.
And thirdly, almost all modern power supply circuits for electric motors of more or less decent firms, and even premium ones, use smooth acceleration circuits for motors precisely in order to reduce the destructive effect of transient processes.
So, when powering equipment through switches or other devices, it is quite enough to focus on the rated power with a small margin. But the manufacturer should really choose carefully. Cheap ones, as a rule, do not stock up on parameters. In this sense, Russian manufacturers are preferable. They are still doing in the old fashioned way with high quality and with a 3-4-fold margin.

Quote: elenas
Is Kitchenade worse than Kenwood?
Yes. Mechanical diagram of the drive. Well, this implies less reliability and resource.

Quote: Miranda
And superficially, I still think that Kenwood did a better job. That is, outwardly, it is more reliable in the mount, and looks more stable.
Kenwood has a fundamentally different mechanical scheme. The engine is in a rack (vertical position). Kitchen has everything in mind (horizontal arrangement). Accordingly, all Kitchen's parts are finer, and their resource is less. Well, stability problems are also associated with this.
zvezda
Paul, Already missed you !!! : oops: I love your answers ..: girl-yes: I, for example, also put my automatic machine on each outlet.
Panda!!! Joining Miranda ...HURRAH!!!!! Everything will be fine!! You will love him as dearly as we all !!
Pandochka
zvezda, thank you))) I already love him, I thought I would walk around him for two weeks, afraid to do something! But in fact, it's not scary at all! While there are more questions, of course, and there is a problem with the attachments, I don't know what is better than whipping, etc.))))
zvezda
So ask !!!! There is nothing to be ashamed of
I have 2 of them !!! I bought the first one 8-9 years ago!

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