Kenwood Kitchen Machines

[Margitte]

I also think to wait until a new model appears, what if the price will be reduced by 096, or maybe not, and in general, as soon as a new model appears, then 096 will no longer be bought? I really don't know, I'll wait until September, probably ...

Margitte, but who knows the plans of the company, now you can't buy 094, maybe it will be from 096, because the cars differ only in the configuration. But on the KU already and on the new model, the price has been reduced by 21% (957.13 €) 🔗food processors.asp.
Today I discovered the news ... The new Kenwood Titanium and Elite machines have different attachments for the planetary socket, only in Titanium there are five, and in Elite - three (there is no flexi or a souffle), and what is typical - for a 6.7 l bowl they are the same as for Titanium, but for 4.6L bowls they are like in Sense .... although they all belong to the Sense line.

different attachments for the planetary socket

Something I didn't quite understand
Is there a different socket or attachments?

[Miranda]

Something I didn't quite understand
Is there a different socket or attachments?

Miranda, the nest is the same, the difference in the attachments is in their quantity and quality. There are five of them in Titanium for large and small bowls (reinforced rim, flexi of the new design, soufflake, K-shaped nozzle and a new spiral hook). There are already three of them in the Elite with a 6.7 liter bowl (reinforced rim, K-shaped and a new spiral hook), but in Elite with a 4.6-liter bowl, they are the same as in KMM 560 and Sense - a fluffy rim, and K-shaped and an old-style hook covered with silumin. This is news to me, I thought the nozzles in all new ones are the same both in quantity and quality, the only difference is in the power.

[Peter Push]

Peter Push, Now it is clear!
Yes, it's strange.

Girls, urgently - urgently: on Ali Kenwood, Prospero 242 is promised for about 8500 rubles. Big Ken doesn't shine for me for a very long time.
Now as a stationary mixer / kneader Kitfort Kitfort KT-1308, the simplest, planetary, 600W. I like, especially, that there the working time (up to 10 minutes) can be set - a trifle, but nice.
In light of this approach, is it worth it, Kitforth, to change to Prospero? Is he, Kenwood KM 242 Prospero, planetary? How is the quality of work, reliability? Does the dough knead well? I don't really need the attachments, although the bonus is nice. Well, except for kneading machines, kanesh. They write - 6 nozzles.

[Anna]

Anna, I have a 280th, in appearance one on one like the one that you saw. I've been using it for a month, I'm happy. The dough is kneading. Kneading dumplings, shortbread, mesh bread every day, according to recipes from our website. Copes.



Yes, it is planetary.

[Silyavka]

Silyavka, thanks, I will think. If I manage to collect the money, I will probably order it.

[Kestrel]

Kestrel, Anya, look at the topic of Kenwood we work with nozzles, I posted there a photo of mashed potatoes that I prepared with a nozzle
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...798.0
Made mousse
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...798.0
https://Mcooker-enn.tomathouse.com/in...798.0

A new model has already appeared on the Cookingshef, it costs the same as the 096, but the 096 is no longer on sale and the last one will not be sold yesterday ... what a shame, I was deliberately waiting and now, I waited (((what to do now? I understand that the new model is worse than the 096?

[Margitte]

Margitte, hmm ... decided to completely remove 096 or what?
In other countries, both options are sold, why is this the case here?

[Miranda]

Miranda, we generally have some kind of mess. In April, I made a pre-order for Kenwood BT Souffleika. I called several times, clarified, each time postponed, to May / June / August. And yesterday, after my several calls, the manager generally said that since a new car is expected, the old ones will be discontinued and there will be no more souffleeks either. To my remark that the soufflake is not only for the cooking chief, but for all the majors in general, they did not answer me anything intelligible. At the same time, on the website of the cookie chef, you can pre-order the soufflake, and according to the manager (the phone is the same as that of Kenwood BT, but the manager answered the other), it is possible that nozzles will be supplied, but there is no exact information. Well, I can't imagine that European buyers are treated this way, and their European divisions, probably, still give information

[Miranda]

Miranda, the consultant replied that there would be no more supplies

I still think, in general, I don’t want to take a new model when it just appeared, it’s probably necessary to wait for the comments of comrades, if someone is suddenly already aware of the advantages or disadvantages of the new model before 096, please write what I know so far review on YouTube, and since there is in German, I only realized that there is a difference in the hook - it is chopped off and I did not like it

[Tan_ch]

Tan_ch, in July I pre-ordered a soufflake for cooking. They promised in August ..... I ordered cu.

[Margitte]

I understand that the new model is worse than the 096?

Margitte, it is neither worse nor better, it is DIFFERENT. Look at the German, French forums (google translator will help you), there are many opinions about them and comparisons with 096, there are opinions about the hook. We sell both models, the previous ones are a little cheaper. Good luck to you!



I just visited cu, my conclusion is that "old" models, judging by the prices, will not be released, discounts for KMM 770, KMM 063, 094, 096 are large - up to 41%, it looks like a sale of stocks. And it's a pity, only the Senses and the new induction will remain, it's rather poor, however (((, but on the other hand, there is a great variety in the Senses line both in terms of configuration and in terms of power and size of bowls.

it is neither worse nor better, it is DIFFERENT.

I agree. She's just different. New and unknown in a long work in terms of convenience, electronics, etc. But I think that it is hardly worse. A hook can always be purchased from 096 (although, who knows, if 096 is removed from production, then hooks in 5-7 years will be rare, like the old flexi).

It's a shame that you waited and hoped for a decrease in the price of 096, but they completely disappeared (although I would clarify, there might be one), and Gourmet in a complete set is more expensive, even though the website offers a set of dough rollers and cutters as a gift. Plus 8 thousand, that's plus 8 thousand.

PS The site, apparently, has not been fully updated.
In particular, there is a medium-speed socket, which is no longer there, a stirring attachment, an old picture, a hook and a lid (although this is no longer as important as a stirrer). And the low-speed socket adapter in other countries in all trim levels.

[Margitte]

Margitte, Alice from MK told me that there would be no more 096 models, I managed to order, then I look, and the 096 model hung on the site, apparently since September the site was updated to new models. It's a shame that it happened (((Now just wait and look at the reviews, I was only confused by the electronics in the new model.

[Miranda]

I was confused in the new model only by electronics.

And me only she ...

Look at the German, French forums (google translator will help you), there are many opinions about them and comparisons with 096, there are opinions about the hook. We sell both models, the previous ones are a little cheaper. Good luck to you!

Thank you, I looked at several reviews on YouTube, well, probably, if I can't buy 096, I'll still take a new model ...

A hook can always be purchased from 096

Miranda, that is, do I understand correctly that all attachments from 096 are suitable for gourmet too? Will the souffleika fit the new model?

It's a shame that you were waiting and hoping for a decrease in the price of 096, but they completely disappeared (although I would clarify, maybe there would be one)

I did so the next day, wrote again, they told me that there is one 096 model in stock, but it is in reserve, if it is suddenly removed from the reserve, then it is possible that then it will be mine, they said to wait until Thursday, they took my phone, but today is Friday and nobody called me, so I don't even hope

In particular, there is a medium-speed socket, which is no longer there, a stirring attachment, an old picture, a hook and a lid (although this is no longer as important as a stirrer). And the low-speed socket adapter in other countries in all trim levels.

I really don't like this new mixing attachment, some kind of awkward, but from 096 can I put it? There she is so solid ... Miranda and what was done in the medium speed nest? Is it a big loss that the new model does not have it?

But on the Yandex market it appears that 096 is in several online stores:

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All these shops are not familiar to me, and somehow I am generally afraid to buy such a thing somewhere other than the office site ... girls, would you dare to buy in one of these stores?

Are all attachments from 096 suitable for gourmet? Will the souffleika fit the new model?

From the planetary socket (hook, whisk, soufflake, etc.) - they will do.
From a high speed socket (blender, chopper, etc.) - will do.
Low speed socket (meat grinder, dough sheeter, etc.) - adapter needed.

There is no mid-speed slot in the new machine. There was one single attachment - a food processor, which is now placed on a high-speed one.

but today is Friday and nobody called me, so I don't even hope

And I would call again. And in general, every day.
And I would tell a tragic story, how I waited, saved up and this, and that already so you want, and for another +2 months to finish saving. And let them look, etc.

Good luck!

I really don't like this new mixing attachment, some kind of awkward, but from 096 can I put it? There she is so solid ...

From 096 the agitator switches to a new one.
But the new mixer on 096 is not.

It is made differently, and can be simultaneously with the rim or K-shaped, since it is placed in a new hole, which did not exist before. In 096, there is simply nowhere to insert it.

[Miranda]

Miranda, everything is clear thanks for answering in such detail! I still have such a question matured according to the promo code for the new model they give a bowl of 6.7 liters AW36386B01, what kind of bowl is it, from 096? Will she go to the gourmet? It seems that the gourmet has a bowl with some kind of notch, as far as I remember ...

[Margitte]

Margitte, I will not tell you by the code from 096 go no bowl, because there is no time to google and check.

But in Gourmet, a bowl with a notch, yes.
The bowl itself will do, any 6.7 liters. will do, even if it is plastic, but the spray cover will not be put on (from steam on the head - will be put on), because in the new cover there is a branch of such a U under the notch.

[Margitte]

according to the promo code for the new model they give a bowl of 6.7 liters AW36386B01, what kind of bowl is it, from 096?

Margitte, this is a metal bowl with handles for Major, model 096 is also suitable, only its handles are metal not rubberized.
For the Cooking Chef Kenwood kitchen machine, bowl AW 37575.

[Miranda]

Miranda, Peter Push, Thank you!

Oh girls! I just got a call from the Cookshef, but I didn't expect a call from them at all and I forgot! And now they call and say that two 096 models have been removed from the order and I can buy if needed. I was so confused on the phone, in the end, they decided that I would think until Wednesday, they would call me again and I would give the final answer. Now I don’t know what to do, take 096 or gourmet, during these days I have already mentally tuned in to gourmet .. what to do I don’t know what would you like to take in my place?

[Margitte]

Margitte, I would take the old one. It has already been tested by the people.

[Margitte]

Margitte, oh, if you were in Moscow, you would go to the Master class on Tuesday and look at both cars. I don’t know what the MK is on now, but it’s definitely both there in the showroom.

Let's take a simple but logical path (c)

1. 8 thousand difference in money.
096 is a complete set (i.e. blender + food processor) for 65 thousand rubles.
Gourmet for this money in a simple configuration, and in full - 73 thousand, but plus a gift of dough sheeters and noodles, which is more expensive than 8 thousand.

2. 096 proven, Gourmet new and mysterious.
This is a plus and a minus at the same time.

3. Gourmet has more temperature and more electronics.
Also plus and minus at the same time.

Damn, to be honest, I don't know.
If 8 thousand are decisive, then the rest of the arguments are not important. For me, decisive, so I would be old (although, how old it is, it is still new). If not decisive, let's reason together.

Do you give any gifts?
Will the kenwood promo code (the scales give) work verbally in such a situation?

[Belka13]

Belka13, yes, and for me this is perhaps almost the main argument.

Do you give any gifts?
Will the kenwood promo code (the scales give) work verbally in such a situation?

There will be a meat grinder and a press for berries.But whether it will be possible to use the promo code with such an order - I don't know, I forgot to ask, but if they do, I would like not to use the scales, but the second bowl is still given there, you cannot use two codes at once, unfortunately

Perhaps it would be wiser to take 096 ...

[Margitte]

Margitte, wiser 096.
Because it is cheaper and proven. If there is any question on the management of Gourmet, then so far no one can help. It's a little different there - scroll, press the big button. Although, it looks a bit like Sense. We can only answer the questions of how to beat what is better with which nozzle, etc. general questions.

And even more so with gifts. If a meat grinder and a press are not needed, then you can sell and even lower the price of the machine by a few thousand.

But I would hang too. Because the choice is always difficult, and then these stupid thoughts - what if, and suddenly it would be so.

And about the second bowl from where infa? I have not seen in the social. networks and on the website about the bowl. Previously, the scales were always given according to the promo code. Now type to make a buy, entered the code - scales.

And here's another interesting question - in Gourmet, does the Russian menu in Russian?

There are also programs of dishes, such as in a multicooker - sauce or risotto - the order of actions is programmed (interfere, wait, raise or lower the temperature, etc.). And other text also appears on the screen.

When I googled the reviews, I remember that the Italians who bought the French version complained that there was no Italian and had to be perceived in English.

I did not find it in English about the display, but from the video it is generally clear that there is both text on the screen and touch buttons. And how to press what - you need to read the instructions.

Hello everyone! I was recently at a master class, and we did some of it in Gourmet, so it was only in French

[Assol]

Assol, welcome to the forum

This means that the language has not been changed.
The car has 100% English as an international language.
But whether there is Russian and whether localization is planned at all is a question.

How do you like Gourmet in general? Almost no one has seen her here.

[Assol]

and then these stupid thoughts - what if, and suddenly it would be so.

Exactly...
I found out about the promo code for the bowl by chance on Instagram, various models of mixers were discussed and one girl mentioned that you can use her promo code, as I understood, she works at Kenwood master classes.

Yesterday I asked the consultant on the website in what language the electronic menu in the new model was, he replied that it was in Russian, but it is possible that he himself does not know.
Assol, please share your impressions of Gourmet

Thank you. Well, of course, they began to praise this car that it has a more convenient low-speed socket (it is much faster and more convenient to put on the attachments), there are measurements in the bowl, it seems that nothing was said about it too much, its presentation seems to be scheduled for September 14. And of course for sale the car should be Russified, they have a model for MK without a Russian. At first, having learned that the difference in price seems to be not very big, I think maybe I hurried from 96, but then I realized that the touch electronics still confuses me, and 96 is still more reliable and a 5-year warranty)
Alice works at the master classes, she has the same promo code, the scales also follow it

In the shopping mall Your house there is a share on equipment - they sell KM096 for 44,990 together in a technopark, and there it is 79,000 or something.
You have to buy goods in your house, give stickers, and for 54 stickers that is the price. But the moment, in the brochure, the kenwood KM096 kitchen machine is written, but the displacement of the bowl is 4.6l, I looked and did not find 096 with such a bowl volume, in the picture it is induction. If anyone is interested.

[Margitte]

Margitte, first of all, calm down (rinsing my hands to the elbows with cold water helps me personally) and answer yourself a couple of questions: 1) I need km first of all for cooking food in it or, above all, as an assistant (for kneading-grind-whisk-stir- grind, etc.) and induction in it is a pleasant and sometimes necessary bonus for me; 2) is it not better to km separately, and a multicooker separately. Western ladies position 096 as an assistant pastry chef, and the new one as a cook.And about electronics - nothing stands still, everything is technically improving, but this does not mean that it is becoming more reliable. So I would take 096, personally I do not see anything fundamentally improved in Gourmet, they just added a multicooker function. The choice is yours anyway, you and only you will decide what to buy.

[Assol]

Assol, thanks for the story
Peter Push, I already calmed down too excited after the call I tried to call back an hour later - I can't wait for Wednesday, I hope they call again, I scold myself for being blunt Of course, I don't need it for cooking, I've already decided that 096.

Literally an hour ago, Pokashevarim posted a review on Gourmet, but I did not learn anything new:

kitchen machine kenwood KM096 but displacement of a bowl 4.6l

In the Technopark there is a full-fledged 096, a bowl of 6.7 liters, the price is 79990 rubles. Someone was looking here. The store is normal.
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I tried the situation on myself with a choice, and decided that I would risk taking a new Gourmet
But, of course, I will not change my existing one.

posted a review on Gourmet, but I did not learn anything new

Yes, the review is so-so, to be honest
Kenwood on Instagram called on food bloggers, apparently from there the person.

I would be interested in looking at the review or a series of comparative reviews. Or at least just detailed.

[Olya]

I would risk taking a new Gourmet

Olya, I would also take a chance))) interestingly the new one))) At one time I took my Kesha, it was also scary 5 years ago ... But you are not ready to change either. Let it be true. Let's be glad for the pioneers

[Zhanik]

Zhanik, I'm not ready to change either, I am 100500% satisfied with my Kenwood, and why offend him, dreaming of a new one.

But it's terribly interesting about the new product, I'm looking forward to the pioneers

[Margitte]

Margitte, so I had the same choice: wait for the gourmet or buy the 096 model))) They helped me a lot here, chewed, answered all the questions and I do not regret it at all. I just don't understand why it was necessary to remove the 096 model from sales, because they are really quite different, not everyone needs these functions of a multicooker (every housewife has one, sometimes not one))))).

If the novelty were cheap, I would, of course, take the risk. But at such a cost, I trust only time-tested and user-tested models.

Hello everyone! There will always be debates that the new is not always better than the old. But progress does not stand still and the machines are improving, reducing noise and vibration, improving stability, etc. etc. Electronics, of course, can be buggy, but in general there are reliable units and in the case of Kenwood, I think everything is thought out there. 096 Now it costs from 63 thousand in Moscow, the new model costs from 65 thousand, although the equipment seems to be less. but the device itself is newer.

My prediction is that everything is heading towards unification. The medium-speed nest was completely abandoned and in the future there will be no attachments for it, only the simpler Sens, Sens XL and more advanced ones with induction will remain. KMIX don't know where to go. It is always easier to maintain 2 products than 3-4. And it is easier for the consumer not to get confused in the names and possibilities, and it is easier for the manufacturer to make attachments, cases of several types than for each combine.

and in the future there will be no attachments on it

It had one single nozzle, which moved to the adjacent high-speed socket unchanged. Only the removable attachment to the socket has changed.

KMIX I don't know where to go

It is positioned only as a mixer, not a kitchen. car.
There is one extra. nest - at the end of the head, for a meat grinder and dough sheeter. Do not put a blender, juicer, chopper, etc. on this machine.

It will stay, because it was created for pulling from Kitchens - similar design, many colors, small.

[atrom]

It is always easier to maintain 2 products than 3-4.

atrom, and yet the firm is not looking for easy ways either for itself or for the consumer. Ordinary Sens - two bowls 4.6 and 6.7 liters, several configurations, those with a small bowl are also multi-colored from the bottom, I saw watercolor lime and pink, for small ones there is also a glass bowl.But in Sens XL, there is a wide variety that covers all previously produced lines, there is something to choose from - different powers from 1000 to 1700W, different body materials - from cast metal to metal and plastic, different in design and material of execution of plugs for high-speed and on low-speed nests, different in material and attachments for the planetary - as they were with stainless steel and with a silumin coating (they are somewhat darker than steel), different configurations, and the dough hooks differ - there is a new one, the height of which is no longer adjustable, and an old one sample. This old one I thought they would remake as it should, all the planetary nozzles from small bowls were proportionally increased for large bowls, but the hook was increased only for the tube set at the top, maybe that's why the dough climbs up. And if they do not produce 096, it will be bad for the consumer, that would also be done with smaller bowls.

Well, everything, girls, I placed an order for 096, did not wait for Wednesday, when they were supposed to call me back, I wrote there myself in the chat. Until I rejoice, I will rejoice when I have it. I asked if it is possible to use the promo code for the bowl, they answered that of course it is possible if someone suddenly needs it, the promo code candy_iren
Now it remains to be in exciting anticipation

I bought KM336 from the showcase for 16620 rubles.
the machine takes up little space compared to the braun combimax 700. Made pizza dough 900 grams of flour, 500 ml. water, salt, trembling - 1.4 kg of finished dough - mixed all the norms. It is only the noise that strains - it is somehow uneven and the head shakes a little even when kneading the dough. The store offered moulinex qa509 type and there is already a meat grinder and a shredder. I asked if there are nozzles for pasta in nature - they said of course there is, but after the purchase I was looking for nozzles for pasta on Moulinex and I could not find something. Also in the mulch, the instructions say that she has been kneading for 13 minutes at most, then it turns off by itself, and the mulinex is larger, despite the fact that the gearbox for the meat grinder is taken out, by the way, they also say it breaks often, which I expected. In general, the consultant is incompetent and tried to sell Moulinex for 19900 instead of Kenwood, but I chose Kenwood - so far I am satisfied, only with a noise it is necessary to understand whether this is normal. Can I post a vidos to see how normal it is?

[Margitte]

Margitte, Congratulations!!!!! Let him serve faithfully and cook-cook-cook))))))))))) And what is the gift for this promo code?

[Margitte]

Margittethen for now just support fists
And as soon as he arrives, I'll be glad right away.

Ugh ugh ugh

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I bought KM336 from the showcase for 16620 rubles.
...
Can I post a vidos to see how normal it is?

Congratulations! Let it please.
It is correct that Kenwood, he is still stronger.

Upload a video, listen

[Pandochka]

Pandochka, it's too early to congratulate On the candy_iren promo code there is a bowl of 6.7 liters AW36386B01
Miranda,
atrom, with the purchase!

The cup is the coolest gift! Happy purchase!